• Report: #25422

Complaint Review: AmeriTrain

  • Submitted: Fri, July 26, 2002
  • Updated: Sat, August 10, 2002

  • Reported By:King of Prussia PA
AmeriTrain
8801 JM Keynes / 1000 Southhill Drive Charlotte / Cary, North Carolina U.S.A.

AMERITRAIN'S RESPONSE TO STUDENTS IN NC tricked and lied to us ripoff evil dirt bags Charlotte / Cary North Carolina

*Consumer Comment: Incorrect Address

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: DID ANYONE NOTICE???

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: NO pending legislation or complaints

*UPDATE Employee: Vice President; General Manager, we apologize

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I am on your side ...none of the employees had any knowledge of what was about to happen

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I am on your side ...none of the employees had any knowledge of what was about to happen

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I am on your side ...none of the employees had any knowledge of what was about to happen

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I am on your side ...none of the employees had any knowledge of what was about to happen

*Consumer Comment: ATTORNEY GENERAL MOVING FORWARD IN PROSECUTION OF AMERITRAIN

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Response from AmeriTrain

This is under investigation. Does not appear to be a Rip-off Report

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#1 Consumer Comment

Incorrect Address

AUTHOR: Thomas - ()

I am an employee of Elite Training in Charlotte. Our offices are located at 2359 Perimeter Pointe Parkway, Suite 120. We are in NO way connected with Ameritrain. I repeat, the address and directions listed in this article are NOT the new headquarters for Ameritrain, and Elite Training has absolutely no connection with that company.
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

DID ANYONE NOTICE???

AUTHOR: Linda - ()

Did anyone notice that the information that Steve Gouveia provided on this web site for the re-location of Charlotte is different than what he provided on the AmeriTrain web site? They are re-locating all of the school locations because they have outstanding bills left at the rental locations that they were occupying when you began your classes.

Please don't be fooled! All they are trying to do is put off the classes until the bankruptcy suit can be put in to action - then what will all of you do? If you take their "follow-up" classes, you are showing them that they can get away with this and what they did is not wrong. PLEASE DON'T BE FOOLED!
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

NO pending legislation or complaints

AUTHOR: youno - ()

I have just gotten off the phone with the Consumer Protection division of the NC Attorney Generals office. They report that there are no complaints filed against Ameritrain. They are going to get away with this if you don't do something.

The web site you need to go to to find out how to file a complaint is http://www.jus.state.nc.us/cpframe.htm.

The number you need to call to verify what I am telling you is 716-6000.

The BBB is not going to help you. They do not pursue legislation. They are only a good for nothing mediation tool.

If you do not file a complaint they will get away with this. Joe call all of the students that you can get in touch with. The AG office will work harder on this if they have more complaints.

PLEASE DO SOEMTHING. IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN. DON'T WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO FILE THE COMPLAINT. YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION NOW!!!!

The response from Ameritrain is typical. "We did nothing wrong." Then shut up and let it pass. (Hi Steve you little f&%k). Sorry everyone else. I know them too well.

They are going to make it very difficult for you. You must persist if you ever want to to see your money or justice in this matter.
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#4 UPDATE Employee

Vice President; General Manager, we apologize

AUTHOR: Steven - ()

Response from AmeriTrain

We apologize for any inconvenience that our relocation may have caused. In Charlotte and Raleigh/Durham, the MCSE classes will begin and/or resume on August 5th and 6th. Specific class instructions, and directions to the new training locations follow:

The Charlotte MCSE class that began on June 18th and met on Tuesdays and Saturdays will resume on Tuesday, August 6th at 6:30 pm. It will continue on the usual Tuesday/Saturday schedule.

The Charlotte MCSE class that was to start on July 22nd will begin on Monday, August 5th at 6:30 pm. It will follow the usual Monday/Wednesday/Thursday schedule.

The Raleigh (Cary) MCSE class that began on May 20th and met on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays will resume on Monday, August 8th at 6:30 pm. It will follow the normal Monday/Wednesday/Thursday schedule

The Raleigh (Cary) CCNA class that was schedule to begin on August 2nd, will begin on Wednesday, September 4th at 6:30 pm. It will follow the usual Monday/Wednesday/Thursday schedule.

The new address for the Charlotte training facility is:
2359 Perimeter Point Parkway
Suite 120
Charlotte, NC 28202.

Directions to this location from 8801 JM Keynes Drive are as follows:

1. Start going South East on JM Keynes Drive toward N. Tryon St., 0.02 miles.
2. Turn Right onto N. Tryon Street 0.16 miles.
3. Turn Right onto W. Wt. Harris Bldg. - 0.73 miles.
4. Turn Slight 0.0-2 miles
5. Turn Slight Left onto ramp 0.28 miles
6. Merge onto I-85 S 10.86 miles
7. Take the US-52 Billy Graham Parkway Exit 0.25 miles - Exit Number 33-towards Charlotte/Douglas Int. Airport
8. Turn Left onto Billy Graham Parkway 3.11 miles
9. Take Tyvola Road Exit Keep Left
10. The building is the Lakepoint Corporate Office Center, Bldg #2 second building on left.

The new address for the Raleigh (Cary) training facility is:
1000 Park 40 Plaza
Suite 300
Durham, NC 27713

Directions to this location from 1000 South Hill Drive are as follows:

Turn LEFT onto N. Harrison Ave. 55 miles.
Turn LEFT to take the I-40 W ramp towards DURHAM/CHAPEL HILL - .35 miles.
Merge onto I-40 W 8.87 miles.
Take the NC-55 exit number 278 towards NC-54/APEX - .20 miles.
Turn RIGHT onto NC-55 - .65 miles.
Turn LEFT onto ALLENDOWN DR. - .09 miles.
Turn LEFT onto MEADOW DR. - .08 miles.

If you have any question, please call me at 610-265-8047 ext. 11. If you receive my voicemail, please leave a message so that I may return your call.

Again, we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and we look forward to helping you achieve your training goals.

Sincerely,

Steven H. Gouveia
Vice President / General Manager
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#5 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I am on your side ...none of the employees had any knowledge of what was about to happen

AUTHOR: Another Victem - ()

Joe, you know me, I was the director there at Ameritrain in Charlotte. I want to let you know that I am here to help all the students in any way I possibly can. Please know that none of the employees had any knowledge of what was about to happen and we were victems as well.

I never recieved a very large sum of money that was owed to me, and in the amount of what most students had paid for their classes. I am out just as much money as a result of Doug Davis's greed, lies, and deception. I feel badly that I was the one who sold many of the students their classes, but at the time, thought that Ameritrain was a legitimate school who would give the students what they paid for.

I feel horrible about what they did to all of you, and hate what they did to me and my fellow co-workers as well. I wish you the best of luck, and will help you in any way possible to get justice. Steve Gouveia, went into the Charlotte school, and in my office to shred all evidence I had against them.

Most of my direction was via phone conversation or fax, they were very careful in the end not to have any trace of alot of what was told to do. I keep everything, and Steve knew that. Some of the students went in there while he was there clearing my office an saw him do so. They are the lowest form of life on earth, and knew at least 6 months ago that they were going to do this.

But they left me and the other employees in the dark about it! Please don't hold us in the same light with the dogs who did this to you and all the other students. Good Luck, and let me know if you need me for anything. I have a case pending against them as well!!!!!!!
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#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I am on your side ...none of the employees had any knowledge of what was about to happen

AUTHOR: Another Victem - ()

Joe, you know me, I was the director there at Ameritrain in Charlotte. I want to let you know that I am here to help all the students in any way I possibly can. Please know that none of the employees had any knowledge of what was about to happen and we were victems as well.

I never recieved a very large sum of money that was owed to me, and in the amount of what most students had paid for their classes. I am out just as much money as a result of Doug Davis's greed, lies, and deception. I feel badly that I was the one who sold many of the students their classes, but at the time, thought that Ameritrain was a legitimate school who would give the students what they paid for.

I feel horrible about what they did to all of you, and hate what they did to me and my fellow co-workers as well. I wish you the best of luck, and will help you in any way possible to get justice. Steve Gouveia, went into the Charlotte school, and in my office to shred all evidence I had against them.

Most of my direction was via phone conversation or fax, they were very careful in the end not to have any trace of alot of what was told to do. I keep everything, and Steve knew that. Some of the students went in there while he was there clearing my office an saw him do so. They are the lowest form of life on earth, and knew at least 6 months ago that they were going to do this.

But they left me and the other employees in the dark about it! Please don't hold us in the same light with the dogs who did this to you and all the other students. Good Luck, and let me know if you need me for anything. I have a case pending against them as well!!!!!!!
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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I am on your side ...none of the employees had any knowledge of what was about to happen

AUTHOR: Another Victem - ()

Joe, you know me, I was the director there at Ameritrain in Charlotte. I want to let you know that I am here to help all the students in any way I possibly can. Please know that none of the employees had any knowledge of what was about to happen and we were victems as well.

I never recieved a very large sum of money that was owed to me, and in the amount of what most students had paid for their classes. I am out just as much money as a result of Doug Davis's greed, lies, and deception. I feel badly that I was the one who sold many of the students their classes, but at the time, thought that Ameritrain was a legitimate school who would give the students what they paid for.

I feel horrible about what they did to all of you, and hate what they did to me and my fellow co-workers as well. I wish you the best of luck, and will help you in any way possible to get justice. Steve Gouveia, went into the Charlotte school, and in my office to shred all evidence I had against them.

Most of my direction was via phone conversation or fax, they were very careful in the end not to have any trace of alot of what was told to do. I keep everything, and Steve knew that. Some of the students went in there while he was there clearing my office an saw him do so. They are the lowest form of life on earth, and knew at least 6 months ago that they were going to do this.

But they left me and the other employees in the dark about it! Please don't hold us in the same light with the dogs who did this to you and all the other students. Good Luck, and let me know if you need me for anything. I have a case pending against them as well!!!!!!!
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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I am on your side ...none of the employees had any knowledge of what was about to happen

AUTHOR: Another Victem - ()

Joe, you know me, I was the director there at Ameritrain in Charlotte. I want to let you know that I am here to help all the students in any way I possibly can. Please know that none of the employees had any knowledge of what was about to happen and we were victems as well.

I never recieved a very large sum of money that was owed to me, and in the amount of what most students had paid for their classes. I am out just as much money as a result of Doug Davis's greed, lies, and deception. I feel badly that I was the one who sold many of the students their classes, but at the time, thought that Ameritrain was a legitimate school who would give the students what they paid for.

I feel horrible about what they did to all of you, and hate what they did to me and my fellow co-workers as well. I wish you the best of luck, and will help you in any way possible to get justice. Steve Gouveia, went into the Charlotte school, and in my office to shred all evidence I had against them.

Most of my direction was via phone conversation or fax, they were very careful in the end not to have any trace of alot of what was told to do. I keep everything, and Steve knew that. Some of the students went in there while he was there clearing my office an saw him do so. They are the lowest form of life on earth, and knew at least 6 months ago that they were going to do this.

But they left me and the other employees in the dark about it! Please don't hold us in the same light with the dogs who did this to you and all the other students. Good Luck, and let me know if you need me for anything. I have a case pending against them as well!!!!!!!
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#9 Consumer Comment

ATTORNEY GENERAL MOVING FORWARD IN PROSECUTION OF AMERITRAIN

AUTHOR: Joe - ()

THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERALS OFFICE OF NORTH CAROLINA AND PENNSYLVANIA IS MOVING FORWARD IN THE CASE AGAINST AMERITRAIN COMPUTER TRAINING AND SPECIFICALLY DOUGLAS D. DAVIS AND STEVE GOUVEIA, PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS FOR THE SCHOOL. AMOUNG MANY PENDING CHARGES FRAUD, DECEPTION, AND MONEY LAUNDERING IS INVOLVED. AMERITRAIN AND SPECIFICALLY MR. DAVIS AND GOUVEIA ARE ACCUSED OF RUNNING A VERY CROOKED COMPUTER TRAINING SCHOOL.

OVER 20+ STUDENTS ARE ACCUSING AMERITRAIN OF ILLEGALLY OBTAING FUNDS FROM STUDENTS THAT COULD BE IN THE $100,000 TO $300,000 RANGE. THE STUDENTS ARE ACCUSING AMERITRAIN OF NOT RETURNING CALLS AND CLOSING THE SCHOOL AND LEAVING THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT LEAVING MANY STUDENTS SHAKEN. ACCORDING TO STATE RECORDS AMERITRAIN OPERATED A COMPUTER TRAINING SCHOOL IN CHARLOTTE AND RALEIGH, NC WITHOUT BEING PROPERLY LICENSED. WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS CONFRONTED ABOUT THE OPERATING WITHOUT PROPER LICENSE, THEY DECIDED TO SHUT THE DOORS, PACK UP AND LEAVE THE STATE AND THE STUDENTS.

AMERITRAIN IS ALSO ACCUSED OF MAKING FALSE PROMISES TO STUDENTS TO ENTICE THEM
INTO ATTENDING THE CLASSES AT A RATE OF APPROXIMATELY $250 PER DAY.

AMOUNG THE "PROMISES MADE BY AMERITRAIN WAS 100% HANDS ON TRAINING AND OFFERING HIGH PAYING POSITIONS AFTER GRADUATION WITHIN THE COMPANY THAT NEVER EXISTED.

IM JOE SAMPSON THERES MORE TO THIS STORY TONIGHT AT 11:00
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