• Report: #200717

Complaint Review: American Engine, Phoenix

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  • Submitted: Wed, July 12, 2006
  • Updated: Mon, February 26, 2007

  • Reported By:Phoenix Arizona
American Engine, Phoenix
503 W. Watkins Phoenix, Arizona U.S.A.

American Engine, ripoff Phoenix Arizona

*Consumer Comment: You Get What You Pay For

*Author of original report: UPDATE

*Consumer Comment: They did the same thing to me

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I contacted American Engine for a quote on replacing my engine. I was given a quote ($1700.) and a time period (7-10 days) that the work would be done. As I thought both were reasonable I went ahead and had them tow my car in.

Six days later they call to inform me I need to come in and sign papers and give a deposit. The deposit was not a problem but why did they wait almost a full week to inform me about the paperwork and deposit? This was never mentioned on any of the phone calls made to them. There goes six of the 7 to 10 day promise.

Upon signing of the paperwork I was then informed this would be another 10 to 16 days. Now, this was not good news as I was renting a car and this is costing much more than originally expected. A three week rental is much more expensive than a 7 to 10 day rental.

A few days later I receive a call that I need more parts other than the engine. I need things like a fuel pump which had been replaced by Sun Devil previously, belts, hoses and more. I okayed the replacement of all that was mentioned. But now this is going to cost me $2800. They also state my old engine is too far gone to be remanufactored so I will need to pay the extra $300 to have it disposed of (no surprise there).

Five weeks later they are done with the car. I noticed that the new engine was completely spray painted black which immediately gave me apprehension (don't you paint something to cover something else up?), but too late now. I've been renting a car for six weeks ($320 a week x 6 weeks, ouch) and this is costing me $5000 total for the engine and car rental as opposed to the $2000 I had figured if American Engine had made good on their 7 to 10 day promise.

Here's what I have under the hood now. An engine with a dip stick that is too short for the engine block (if the dipstick says full, then we have 3 quarts of oil in a 5 quart capacity engine). An engine that burns a quart of oil a week (new engine?, sounds more like a fifteen year old engine). We change the oil every 3000 miles and it is the blackest substance known to man (I would imagine the oil would be dirty after 3000 miles, but definitely not black, come on, it's a NEW engine). A crimp in the fuel line that is hindering the flow of gas (a new one will cost $300 as it would need to be custom made). No replacement of the freon in the a/c system that had been working fine prior along with the compressor not even coming on anymore (receipt states they never removed the system). I no longer have cruise control.

I have no intention of taking the car back for a replacement engine or any type of work. This little venture has cost me more than I could afford. I know I'll need to replace this engine soon enough, and I'll definitely go elsewhere.

I know I needed a new engine but I also know I didn't get a NEW engine and I most certainly didn't get what had been working to come back to me working. I was definitely ripped off.

*Please note, I use the word 'new' to describe the engine, but it is a remanufactured engine.

Cheryl
Phoenix, Arizona
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 07/12/2006 03:10 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/American-Engine-Phoenix/Phoenix-Arizona-85003/American-Engine-ripoff-Phoenix-Arizona-200717. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

You Get What You Pay For

AUTHOR: Matt - (U.S.A.)

First of all, without knowing what year make and model of vehicle you have, it's difficult to know if you got ripped off at that price, or to what extent you were ripped off.

Secondly, you get what you pay for. Many engine and transmission replacement shops use salvaged engines and transmissions. There is nothing wrong with this in and of itself, if you're getting a good, low mileage replacement. In fact, most mechanics will tell you they would prefer a low mileage OEM engine over a remanufactured engine, simply because of the fact that most remanufactured engines are 150,000 plus mile engines that have simply had some parts replaced. You can never replace **all** parts.

If your vehicle is old enough, there is no way to get a "new" engine for it - you're gonna be stuck with a reman or a salvage engine. Never buy a salvaged engine without a CARFAX to verify the mileage on the vehicle it was pulled from at the time of the insurance salvage auction it was purchased from. Honestly, if you got a salvaged engine, they probably bought the cheapest local engine they could, and were told it "has about 100,000 miles on it." Well, that could mean anything all the way up to 250,000 miles.

Next time you replace your engine (and it sounds like it will be soon!) don't let your mechanic buy it - there is a conflict of interest there. Buy it yourself from a reputable engine seller that is a member of the BBB, that provides a CARFAX to verify mileage, and that provides an excellent warranty. DON'T let your mechanic buy it, because when you do, the cheaper he buys it, the more money he makes.

Find your mechanic by going to the local parts stores, talking to the manager, and asking for recommendations on a good independent shop to install an engine, do a good job, and not give you a heart attack on the price.
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UPDATE

AUTHOR: Cheryl - (U.S.A.)

In addition to the previous issues there is also the leaking main seal between the transmission and engine. It is obvious the engine was not reinstalled correctly.

Yes we obviously have an old engine too, figured that out when we noticed we were burning a quart of oil a week, but also, they did not replace vacuum hoses, not even those that were dry rotted. We have had to go through and find all the vacuum leaks because so many hoses had not been reconnected.

Besides the fuel line being crimped and useless, they had also cross threaded the line into the carb, which left us needing to replace the carb also.

In addition to no longer having cruise control I have discovered while driving in the rain that the wiper delay no longer works either. That is on the same switch as the c/c.

It rarely rains here in Phoenix so we didn't discover the last problem I'm about to mention. Our car has power door locks and when we drove in the rain our door locks started locking and unlocking on their own. There is an obvious break in the electric system insulation that is causing this short.

We have since getting our car back been spent over $1000 having issues resolved. Please people, don't go to this business for a 'new' engine. You'll get an old engine and a lot of headaches.
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#3 Consumer Comment

They did the same thing to me

AUTHOR: Tressa - (U.S.A.)

I had a dipstick in my engine that was too short, my husband noticed. I also no longer have cruise control. I took my car to another mechanic that I've known for years, and he told me that this engine is definitely not new. He saw a new block with all old parts. Now that you mentioned the spray paint, even the engine block was probably spray-painted silver to look 'new'.

This company is a complete ripoff and need to be reported and shut down! These 'mechnanics' I was told by the secretary are not even affiliated with the company some way. This company is a REAL ripoff shadetree!
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