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Complaint Review: American Management Services Inc.

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  • Submitted: Fri, October 14, 2011
  • Updated: Mon, August 13, 2012

  • Reported By: Mark — Austin Texas United States of America
American Management Services Inc.
7680 Universal Blvd. Suite 170, Orlando, FL, 32819 Internet United States of America

American Management Services - AMS The engagement lasted 90-days, and was nothing more than a high pressure confidence job. Internet

*General Comment: So.. what exactly does american management services do?

*Consumer Comment: Saved My Company and Instilled GREAT Systems

*UPDATE Employee: We totally disagree

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I am an accredited investor with a 30-year track record as a senior executive, board member and share-holder of a number of small and mid-sized companies in both Canada and the United States. In 2011 I became involved with one company in particular, a small construction subcontractor that in its 19-years of operation had never earned more than $200,000 in any one year, had the misfortune of engaging American Management Services in the Spring of 2010. At the time of the  engagement the company's revenues had been in a 12-month free fall, the company was operating on the equivalent of financial life support from its bank, its' overhead had been pared to the bone, and its'workforce was no more than a skeleton crew. While the outlook at the time was surely bleak, what the company did have going for
it was the $275,000 cash nest egg it had managed to accumulate over years ofliving prudently managing its business prior to the 2009 recession.  By coincidence the AMS "consultants" offered to recommend programs that "will improve your overall business operation." the company's billings under the part-time (two person) engagement quickly exceeded $250,000 in just 90-days before the company's owner realized that he had made a terrible error in judgment.  AMS's work product was  nothing more than a high pressure  sole objective was to separate the client from the cash and with surgical precision. 

While there may be some out there in America (possibly the Banjo builders from Tennessee) who had a different experience, it is my assessment American Management Services entire business model is by design and implementation predatory; in the extreme.   Perhaps even the fertile ground for the certification of a legal class?  SoCaveat Emptor, or better
still..just say no,  to the  The Business Survey  TM.  

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#1 General Comment

So.. what exactly does american management services do?

AUTHOR: Iseeeverything - (United States of America)

This is the question I have been searching for awhile, most of what I hear is "They have a well implemented business plan", basically not giving me anything to chew on.

If their plan is so fantastic, why is it they beat around the bush, as to what exactly there fantastic plan implies? Not ONE person who I knew that worked there had any idea what the heck the company was doing for their clients. 

When you search around for what exactly they do, you see that they like to use the names "partner america", and "US Conference of America", it sounds fancy and all, but it still gives no factual evidence to support that the company as a whole is beneficial to their clients.

Yes, its great and all to brag about your successes, but when your failures outweigh your success it sort of defeats the purpose. When I did alittle bit of "unbiased" research it was extremely evident that most of your clients are not happy with you "business plan", and didnt have very nice things to say.

The same goes for your employees.

Im sure george clotier is feeding at the trough right now with all the money he's getting.
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#2 Consumer Comment

Saved My Company and Instilled GREAT Systems

AUTHOR: Saved By the Bell - (United States of America)

 I also happen to be an accredited investor and have 25 years of experience working in small to medium-sized businesses across Canada and the United States. American management services is in business because of the lack of discipline and controls in small to medium-sized businesses today. You may not like it, but small business owners are seldom taught how to implement new systems and processes that can save their companies. We simply do not have that type of training.

.  American Management Services saved my company. They came in and did an analysis that was probably  worth somewhere between $15,000 and $20,000. They did my survey for $2500.00. Now I don't know any company in the marketplace that is willing to do something at that deep discount in order to prove their worth to you. Any other firm that I spoke with, were looking at a minimum of $25-$50,000 and some wanted $100,000just to conduct the analysis and give me a plan.

You can say what you want about American Management Services, but there is absolutely no one else that I know of that is willing to do this. Nobody is twisting your arm to make  improvements in your organization. It may be difficult to look into the mirror and recognize that you do not possess the talent or the experience to implement the changes that they are suggesting. I readily and freely admit that.

    When I read the story below about the company who was unhappy with the outcome, it brings to mind all of the times that I was reluctant to make the changes necessary to save my company. I am very curious to hear how the company got into that fix in the first place. Was this accredited investor with a 30 year track record they to guide them? After all, he states that he was on the board of this company. So let me see if I got this straight, you waited to get help until you were on the verge of bankruptcy and $250,000 away from running out of cash. And you blame American Management Services for this? Are you really giving us the whole story? because I can tell you from personal experience, that they were incredibly focused on rate of return for all the dollars spent.
   I certainly do not want to get into an argument with someone that refers to people from Tennessee as" banjo builders"because there is certainly no gain in that. I'm sorry to hear that you waited so long to ask for help and then could not look in the mirror and take responsibility for where the company is ended up. Perhaps if you acted sooner, there would've been a significantly higher probability that you could've actually saved this company. and I'm sorry, whose fault was that?

   So I say, you would be absolutely insane not to do at least the survey with American Management Services. That is simply the deal of a lifetime. However, if you do not want to hear the truth and you just want to keep your head buried in the sand then maybe this genius accredited investor is right.

In closing,thank you American Management Services for getting me and my company moving in the right direction. It was not easy to admit to my inability to do certain things, but it sure as hell was necessary.
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#3 UPDATE Employee

We totally disagree

AUTHOR: American Managment - (United States of America)

For over 25 years we have made the needs of our clients and employees a priority. We totally disagree with and reject this posting.  Please visit us at amserv.com to see what our clients and our employees say. If you have any questions or would like to discuss American Management we encourage you to call our Chief Operating Officer Lou Mosca directly at 407-563-8699.
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