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  • Submitted: Thu, August 29, 2002
  • Updated: Tue, September 17, 2002

  • Reported By:Charlotte NC
Ameritrain
6634 Rocklake Dr. Charlotte, North Carolina U.S.A.

Ameritrain ripoff Charlotte North Carolina

*Consumer Suggestion: Room for forgiveness

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Best Wishes ...I knew Doug Davis didn't like to give money back to students

*Consumer Suggestion: Okay?... Louis Farraconfused?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: WAKE UP ITS 2002

*UPDATE Employee: Direct your frustrationon those responsible

*Consumer Comment: ITS NOT BLACK AND WHITE

*0: Ameritrain Charlotte, North Carolina

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I cannot believe this is happening just as I thought it would 1 week in a half before I started classes. Something seemed fishy to me but I went on and proceeded with the process because of pressure from people that wanted to see me succeed academically. The only reasoned I proceeded was because I thought that I was attended a pretty good reputable school, and I got tired of procrastinating about school.

I respect computer technology along with Bill Gates, but this scam has really left a scar on me. I took a risk to broaden my horizons and this is what I get? A smack in the face with a debt of over $7000.00 because somebody has let there greed overtake them? Must a 21 year old young Christian Black African American go through this kind of treatment abuse? I don't believe so.

You know what? It wasn't no more then the first day I was in the building getting my books for the class when I had felt that I don't need to follow through with these classes. I don't know, everything just seemed threw together you know? So, guess what I did? I called Sallie Mae asking them to help me get out of it. At first, they was like,"ofcourse! you can get out of it... Submit a letter, you only attended one class ofcourse you should be able to get a refund." I said okay.

I called Joe Eustace minutes later requesting to be relieved, requesting for the number and address to the Ameritrain Headquarters. Joe took me through the frenzy of asking me why, I don't have the address on me right now -(that was a lie, he is the Director and don't have the address)- come on. Then he said these exact words, "Well, it is going to be pretty difficult to get your money back from Ameritrain." Hello! people are you out there! are you listening?

That threw up a quick Red Flag on my part saying, "This is going to be a bumpy ride" You want to know why? Because lets say after the fact I gave Sallie Mae a call and ask them the same question I asked them before and told them everything Joe Eustace told me. Sallie Mae was like, "Well, if he said that then the school probrably don't give refunds!" What the heck is that! Joe didn't even go over anything with me, it was like he just wanted my money while softening and commending of how bright and smart I am for making this decision, I feel used! Never again people, never again.

Can you see how I felt right then? I felt total pressure like noone is working on my behalf, its just me and the Lord. God I need a miracle!

Sallie Mae told me to submit a letter to the school to the school. What if I would have submitted the letter and it turns out I can't get my money back and I still have to pay it monthly through Sallie Mae Financial. I still will have to go to school with these guys and there is still no promising word from people involved that I could lean on. Also know this, there wasn't many black people around so just imagine how I felt. So I didn't submit a letter because I didn't know who to trust then. Only God knows. I felt like the whole operation was thrown together just for me to loose about $7,000.00 and many other victims loosing the same and even more. Some may say, seven thousands is cheap. Well, if you are like myself, I want to find myself doing smart things with the Lords money you know?

My Instructor Steven Crane was a good guy, but just from all the crap I was sensing from the Ameritrain whole, it put him in the same category as the other Bad people of Ameritrain. I could not hardly trust him for a while either until i got to know him on a 1 on 1. He is totally being used and blackmaled by all the above. I have been calling, and calling and calling trying to find out what is going on at Ameritrain but there phone is off the hook. It turns out they are trying to jump gate and pull a "Enron" on us.

I have only recieved 2 months of quality service out of the 1 year contract that was signed. I want Justice done and I want the money I deserve back as soon as possible, I have a future ahead of me. Help this young black male as well as many other of my friends that are victims of Ameritrain. As William Wallace ounce said, "We must fight for freedom" So, Let us fight. I am on the phone right now talking to a Attorney at law. And I am telling her everything. Whoever can bring this miracle to pass, please step forward.

Thanks for letting me share,

Esau
Charlotte, North Carolina

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Room for forgiveness

AUTHOR: Esau - ()

Yeh, I hear you Joe. You take it easy man, keep the faith. As for Douglas Davis, I don't know about that guy. He needs to show forth a recompense to all people injured in this tragedy.

Best Regards,
Esau
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Best Wishes ...I knew Doug Davis didn't like to give money back to students

AUTHOR: Joe - ()

I am sorry you feel the way you do about thinking I knew about what was going to happen. Let me start off by answering your question.

Yes, I knew Doug Davis didn't like to give money back to students, and why did I continue selling to students? Well first of all, it was very rare that I ever had a student who requested their money back. The school DID indeed have a great reputation for being the best, that's why I continued selling.

I believed in Ameritrain and truely thought it would help all who came and attended classes there. It was only after the fact that Doug Davis found it necessary to put the screws to ALL of us that the reputation was tanished. I had no idea he was going to do this.

You have to remember, I was ripped off too, as well as many other employees. I was owed almost $6000, and basically worked for free driving 5 hours back and fourth to Atlanta for over a month, and what did I get out of it....Nothing!

I hate that this happened to all of us, and really hope that Doug sees the dingey dark mildew on the wall of a jail cell one day for his wrong doing!

Even with all this going on, he still continued to sell and ripoff people in other states knowing he was going to do the same to them. Who knows what's going on now, the corporate number is now disconnected. He is pure evil, and will have to face a higher authority one day, and will recieve his sentance for it!

I am trying to move on and not be so tied up with all this. I know I will never get what is owed to me, I only hope that all of you as students continue to work for justice and a refund.

I wish you the best of luck!
Take care!
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Okay?... Louis Farraconfused?

AUTHOR: Esau - ()

This is to the guy that has Joe on both of his statements.

I appreciate your comments about the African American part, I find it quite amusing. We should use it on comedy zone. Anyways, if that is true about you getting snuffed too. Then, erase your name and put Douglas Davis there and I don't really care much about the race he married because slime acts that Doug performed for us don't really validate him any. Shoot, I have had a white/asian girlfriend.

And almost everybody proclaims to be a Christian these days. I have been scammed by people proclaiming they are Christians when they are really not. So, that really means nonthing to me. Actions speak way better then words, you know what I mean? So, remember. I lashed out at you because you and a couple of others are really the only ones I saw when it comes to Ameritrain. I was never told about a guy named Doug Davis.

Now, I have a question. You said that you told me those exact words that, "I wouldn't get my money back, right?" Because he doesn't give money back, right? Well, since you already knew what kind of man Douglas Davis was, (according to your statement)why did you pursue to enroll people? Or why didn't you warn people? I mean, it looks like to me that you knew what was going to happen. I personally probrably already know the answer to that question, that is "You needed to feed your family" which is fine but, just thought I would throw that out at ya.

Asalamalaka brutha

call me some time...
Later. God Bless
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

WAKE UP ITS 2002

AUTHOR: ME - ()

DOUG HAPPENS TO LIKE BLACK PEOPLE! HIS WIFE IS BLACK! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU BEING BLACK THEY WOULD RIP OFF THEIR OWN FAMILY IF THEY HAVE TOO...GO TO THE SIXERS WEB SITE AND GO TO SEASON TICKET HOLDERS AND THERE YOU WILL FIND A PICTURE OF MR. & MRS. DOUGLAS DAVIS!!
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#5 UPDATE Employee

Direct your frustrationon those responsible

AUTHOR: Joe - ()

I totally understand and sympathize with your position, however before lashing out on the employees get your facts straight! I am the one who sold you your classes, and KNOW that I had no idea that any of this was going to take place.

When you originally enrolled I believed it was the best decission for your future. I cared about my students whom many became my good friends.

I am a christian and a very strong one at that. I have morals and would never have screwed anyone out of their money. For the record let's get one thing straight. When you called me and said you wanted to back out, I did indeed try to convice you to stay and get your certifications.

I thought it would broaden your horizons, and get back on your feet. TRUE: I DID tell you it would be difficult to get your money back as well because DOUG DAVIS does not give money back to students. This is because he was money hungry and greedy! This story that you state of me telling you I didn't have an address is rediculous. It was all over everything I had given you, so don't say I wouldn't give you an address.

You need to focus all your efforts on getting your money back and attacking the ones who did you wrong, and not those who truley tried to help you. I was also a victem, and was owed a very large sum of money from A-Train which I never received.

I have helped alot with trying to help the students out through this whole mess. I am on your side, so don't try to make me look bad. I did my job and did it well to support my family, but never once did I do anything for Ameritrain that I thought was screwing a student.
I wish you the best of luck and much success in your future, and hope that ALL of us get what is owed to us!
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#6 Consumer Comment

ITS NOT BLACK AND WHITE

AUTHOR: Joe - ()

MAN WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU RAMBLE ABOUT IT LIKE YOU GOT RIPPED OFF BY THEM BECAUSE YOUR BLACK! WAKE UP! THERE ARE MANY MANY OTHERS APPROX. 500 WHO WERE SCAMMED LIKE YOU, MOST OF THEM WHITE! YOU GOT SCAMMED BY A CROOKED COMPANY AMERITRAIN WHO WOULD HAVE TAKEN YOUR MONEY IF YOU WERE GREEN OR PURPLE! IF YOU ARE AN AFRICAN AMERICAN MOVE BACK TO AFRICA! OTHERWISE RELIZE OTHERS ARE OUT $20,000 TO $35,000 EACH.

THANKS
LOUIS FARAHKAN
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Ameritrain Charlotte, North Carolina

AUTHOR: - ()

Here is some research I have done. I have found the addresses to other Ameritrains nationwide.


1003 W 9th Ave Fl 2

King of Prussia, PA 19406-1210
Phone:(610)265-8047



1012 W 8th Ave Fl 2

King of Prussia, PA 19406-1313
Phone:(610)265-8303



230 Sugartown Rd # 200

Wayne, PA 19087-6099
Phone:(610)902-9800


46040 Center Oak Plz

Sterling, VA 20166-6595
Phone:(703)430-1107


6996 Columbia Gateway Dr # 104

Columbia, MD 21046-3311
Phone:(410)290-2905



8245 Boone Blvd # 250

Vienna, VA 22182-3832
Phone:(703)356-4114

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