- Report: #116050
Complaint Review: Ancestry.com
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Ancestry.com ripoff artist internet scam Internet
*General Comment: Ancestry.com ripoff artist internet scam Internet
*General Comment: Kieth you're an idiot
*UPDATE Employee: Kieth, youre an idiot
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ancestry.com is ripping people off!
*Author of original report: This is a rebuttal to the rebuttal that is extremely sugar coated, if you will.
*Author of original report: This is a rebuttal to the rebuttal that is extremely sugar coated, if you will.
*Author of original report: This is a rebuttal to the rebuttal that is extremely sugar coated, if you will.
*UPDATE Employee: Hey Folks? Opt-Out Policy is NOT a Scam
*Consumer Comment: Dispute the charge
*Consumer Comment: Dispute the charge
*Consumer Comment: Dispute the charge
*Consumer Comment: Dispute the charge
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Phillip
Lucasville, Ohio
U.S.A.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 11/04/2004 06:23 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Ancestrycom/internet/Ancestrycom-ripoff-artist-internet-scam-Internet-116050. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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Search Tips#1 General Comment
Ancestry.com ripoff artist internet scam Internet
AUTHOR: Roder51 - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 06, 2011
#2 General Comment
Kieth you're an idiot
AUTHOR: Derick - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Friday, January 14, 2011
I think his name was Keith though and not Kieth.So typical of a company who are rip off artists trying to nail an honest ex-employee.Face the facts and the truth.You are crooks liars and theives and had you been around in the Elizabethan age would have been hung and even better beheaded for treason.You are pathetic.
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#3 UPDATE Employee
Kieth, youre an idiot
AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 26, 2006
1. is the 30 days free? yes, you pay a dollar for the shipping of FTM.
2. if the trial is canceled is anything billed? NO
3. is the customer informed about the cancelation policy if the free trials? Yes
4. if the customer forgets to cancel and is billed will he/she be refunded after they notice the $100 charge and call to cancel? YES
wow, not a very good scam. we have customer service that can be contacted and we give refunds.
Kieth, have you ever been scammed? If you ever are truly scammed, tell me how easy it was for you to contact the scammer after you lost your money and also let me know how getting that refund goes.
you sound like a disgrunteled idiot, my guess is you either quit because you werent making any money, or you got fired because you couldnt cut it.
#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Ancestry.com is ripping people off!
AUTHOR: Keith - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 13, 2006
When we are trained we are told that when someone asked for a refund (usually people who didn't realize they had signed up) we were to tell them no twice before we could agree to give them a refund. I felt bad because some people wouldn't fight it, and I thought, if only you would insist 2 more times I could give you your money. You see the calls are recorded and monitored and if someone actually shows some ethics they can get in trouble.
Everyone is pushed to get a certain percentage of "saves" (convincing someone to keep the subscription). and if you don't stay up to par, you can get into trouble, so it was not uncommon for people to tell a customer they were going to cancel the account, and then not do it, and call it a save.
The program that bothered me most was the agreement we had with AOL. The AOL people would ask their customers if they were interested in geneology or ancestry, and if the person showed the slightest interest, they would automatically transfer them to us. We then had a specific script we had to read to trick people into signing up.
Technically all the information was in the script but it was carefully crafted to smooth over the part where we tell them that if they don't call us to cancel within 30 days, they will be rolled into an annual subscription for $100, and that it wasn't refundable (again, unless they insisted several times.)
The way they would get the credit card information of the customer is to tell them they've won a 30 day free trial, and free software, that would only cost $1 to send out, which they needed to put on a credit card. Bam, they have you; and unless you are someone who pays very close attention, and is not easily taken advantage of, you have just been taken for $100.
I also bacame aware that some employees wouldn't give the customer all the information, or would tell them that it would automatically cancel at the end of the 30 days, thus improving their sales stats. True this was against policy, but when your job depends on something you have power over, some people find a way to give themselves power over it.
Bottomline is, if ancestry.com is legally conducting business it is just barely, and it certainly is not anywhere close to ethical. The high-ups in this company know they are making their fortune off of people who can't defend themselves.
#5 Author of original report
This is a rebuttal to the rebuttal that is extremely sugar coated, if you will.
AUTHOR: Phillip - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 10, 2004
#6 Author of original report
This is a rebuttal to the rebuttal that is extremely sugar coated, if you will.
AUTHOR: Phillip - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 10, 2004
#7 Author of original report
This is a rebuttal to the rebuttal that is extremely sugar coated, if you will.
AUTHOR: Phillip - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 10, 2004
#8 UPDATE Employee
Hey Folks? Opt-Out Policy is NOT a Scam
AUTHOR: Ian - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 09, 2004
There are only TWO ways that you can sign up for a trial period with this company:
1) Through an affiliate vendor, like AOL, that transfers you to our sales department for a the opportunity to participate in a 30 day free trial.
2) Through our website, where customers can try our subscriptions on a 14 day trial basis.
Either way, the customer must freely give us their billing information in order to establish an account. Further, the terms and conditions of the service are always explicitly explained at the time the trial begins.
As a back up measure, we send an email to each account holder immediately after the trial begins, with all of the terms of service in writing.
What are the terms? Simple. You can freely use online research tools to which you subscribe for the entirety of the trial period. If you wish to
discontinue, simply call our toll free number before the trial is over. The CS department is currently open Monday - Saturday, extended bankers hours. Before the new year (2005) begins we will also be open on Sundays, as well as extended hours through the week.
There is a link to our terms and services on the company home page, and in that document you will find detailed information on how to cancel your account, the conditions under which you can receive a refund, and the conditions under which you ca not.
Most of the customers I speak to about refunds simply forgot about the opt-out date, and call within a short period thereafter asking for help. Without exception, those customers either agree to keep the account because they are interested in the research tools we offer, or they ask for - and receive - their money back.
Unfortunately, there are customer that call us two or three months into their subscriptions, after having used the tools, and expect a refund of their annual or quarterly charges.
Imagine, if you will, taking a CD back to Walmart, after opening and listening to the music.
Unless there is damage to the CD, you will not get a refund if the package is open. Information is sold under different circumstances than other products. You can not simply allow every customer access to information without receiving compensation!
If you have a billing problem with Ancestry.com, or with MyFamily.com, immediately contact the company. Go to our homepage. In the lower left corner yopu will see a link to the terms of service. Look for the sectioon on canceling your account, anc CALL US.
We will help you if it is in any way possible.
That is a fact.
#9 Consumer Comment
Dispute the charge
AUTHOR: James - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 05, 2004
For places to complain go to this url:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/On-Line-Business/Ancestry/ancestry-com-ripoff-took-139-24656.htm
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#10 Consumer Comment
Dispute the charge
AUTHOR: James - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 05, 2004
For places to complain go to this url:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/On-Line-Business/Ancestry/ancestry-com-ripoff-took-139-24656.htm
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#11 Consumer Comment
Dispute the charge
AUTHOR: James - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 05, 2004
For places to complain go to this url:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/On-Line-Business/Ancestry/ancestry-com-ripoff-took-139-24656.htm
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#12 Consumer Comment
Dispute the charge
AUTHOR: James - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 05, 2004
For places to complain go to this url:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/On-Line-Business/Ancestry/ancestry-com-ripoff-took-139-24656.htm
CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.

