- Report: #272375
Complaint Review: Asset Acceptance, Warren Mich And Cleveland Ohio
| Asset Acceptance, Warren Mich And Cleveland Ohio P O Box 318037
Cleveland, Ohio U.S.A. |
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Asset Acceptance, Warren Mich And Cleveland Ohio Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, read about it, don't get ripped off Cleveland Ohio
*Consumer Comment: Written Agreement
*Consumer Comment: TRUE SOL on credit cards and revolving charge accounts in Ohio
*Consumer Comment: Be careful of how you interpret
*Author of original report: 6 Years is correct, Not 15
*Consumer Suggestion: 15 years is correct
*Consumer Suggestion: SOL
*Author of original report: sol
*Author of original report: sol
*Author of original report: sol
*Author of original report: sol
*Consumer Suggestion: SOL in Ohio
*Consumer Suggestion: Have you called the court?
*Consumer Suggestion: DO NOT MISS YOUR COURT DATE AND DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH THEIR LAWYERS
*Consumer Suggestion: DO NOT MISS YOUR COURT DATE AND DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH THEIR LAWYERS
*Consumer Comment: Sounds like a summons.
*Author of original report: Update
*Consumer Suggestion: Are you sure there isn't a jdugment against you?
*Consumer Suggestion: Nothing in FDCPA about 6 years
*Author of original report: Update on my complaint against Asset Acceptance
*Consumer Suggestion: They can still collect.
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After doing research on the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act I realized that they cannnot collect on a debt that is over 6 years old in Ohio.
I am forwarding this information to the court and to Asset Acceptance. Had I not known about the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act I would of thought I still owed the money.
Do research before you pay to see if you are still liable for a old debt.
Asset Acceptance should be shut down today and not allowed to rip anymore people off.
Upsetinohio
findlay, Ohio
U.S.A.
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Search Tips#1 Consumer Comment
Written Agreement
AUTHOR: Hoodwinked - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 15, 2007
#2 Consumer Comment
TRUE SOL on credit cards and revolving charge accounts in Ohio
AUTHOR: Sadieh - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 13, 2007
I personally checked with the office of Attorney General for the State of Ohio, and, the SOL for open ended accounts, is 4 years. The Truth in Lending Act 1602 (i) clearly spells this out. They are NOT regarded as written contracts, and, in fact, are excluded under that category in the Ohio Revised Codes. The SOL for written contracts in Ohio is 15 years, however, credit cards, and, revolving department store cards, do NOT fall into that category at all. Neither do they fall in under the 6 year SOL.
I wish Ohio would be more definite in its definition, but, if you can read their codes, credit cards are in the category of open ended accounts.
Hope this helps!!
#3 Consumer Comment
Be careful of how you interpret
AUTHOR: Nikki - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, September 16, 2007
Just like if a person was not read his miranda rights. The judge will not dismiss the case unless the defense attorney has brought it up as part of the defense. The judge will not just say out of the blue, "this person has not been read the miranda rights so case is dismissed." For the judge to find in your favor on any point of law that is in your favor, you must bring it to the judge's attention.
#4 Author of original report
6 Years is correct, Not 15
AUTHOR: Upsetinohio - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, September 16, 2007
When the Statue of Limitations is up the person cannot be sued for that debt for a credit card
look at this link and you can see for yourself.
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20040116b2.asp#oh
And at the top they state that a Credit Card is a Written or Oral Account not a Contract.
I think whomever is stating 15 years must be working for Accept Acceptance.
Look at all the Rip Off Reports for Asset Acceptance and you will see where people have had the cases dropped because of Asset Acceptance trying to make people think they can be sued for a debt that is over the Statue Of Limitations.
Read the Fair Credit Collection Act and you will see.
People have sued Asset Acceptance and won !!!
#5 Consumer Suggestion
15 years is correct
AUTHOR: Tim - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 13, 2007
In Ohio, the statute of limitations applicable to a written agreement is 15 years, as Don stated above. ALL credit card debts resolve to a written agreement. No credit card issuer is, or ever has been, dumb enough to issue credit without a written agreement. The agreement (or contract, if you want to call it that) consists of the terms you were offered when you applied for the card, as well as the application itself. Thus, as a practical matter, the statute of limitations applicable to credit card debts, when the law of Ohio applies, is fifteen years.
Now, the statute of limitations applicable to VERBAL contracts in Ohio is six years. But you're not dealing with a verbal contract, so that's irrelevant.
Whether or not you should get a lawyer probably largely depends on the amount of the debt they are claiming. But you should also consider the potential for a judgment blight to appear on your credit report, and the economic damage this could cause down the road.
If your credit is in good shape right now, I would recommend at least consulting with an attorney. Just because I think the SOL is agaisnt you doesn't mean you don't have other viable defenses.
Best of luck!
For a 2nd point, regardless of whether the SOL has passed, you still owe the debt. Currently there is only 2 states (Wisconsin and Mississippi) which have legislated that once the SOL has passed, the debt is over. Everywhere else, you still owe the money. However the collector's options to collect the debt are more limited.
#7 Author of original report
sol
AUTHOR: Upsetinohio - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 11, 2007
#8 Author of original report
sol
AUTHOR: Upsetinohio - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 11, 2007
#9 Author of original report
sol
AUTHOR: Upsetinohio - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 11, 2007
#10 Author of original report
sol
AUTHOR: Upsetinohio - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 11, 2007
#12 Consumer Suggestion
Have you called the court?
AUTHOR: Nikki - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 10, 2007
Does it have a case number on it? Call the court and make sure there is a case pending against you. Then get the court date and the filing date to make sure you answer the complaint in the correct amount of time. The complaint states how long you have to file your answer. Make sure you answer and make sure you show for court. Also, check the statute of limitations in your state to see if the debt is legally collectible.
If the statute of limitations is expired, you must include this defense in your answer or the judge will not consider it and rule against you.
I am not an attorney, I have just read the posts on this board and learned the above. You may want to talk to an attorney or read posts on this website and others to find out what to do. I have never had to deal with a court case so I am not sure, but I had the above ideas and wanted to share them.
#13 Consumer Suggestion
DO NOT MISS YOUR COURT DATE AND DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH THEIR LAWYERS
AUTHOR: C R - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 10, 2007
Keep all records of phone calls, letters received, and letters you have sent to them. Dates, times, and content should all be saved. Even the envelopes that any material may have come in.
Before your court appearance, send them a certified letter (return receipt) stating that the statute of limitations has run out for collecting this type of debt thru the court system. There are plenty of places on the web to find form letters of this type. Use careful wording as to not admit to the debt being yours.
Once in front of the judge, if the case is not dismissed immediately, demand proof of receipt for what Asset ACTUALLY paid to obtain this debt. Often times its about 7 cents per dollar. In most cases, the collection agency can only collect what they actually paid for the debt. In this case, it sounds like they got this account for about $10.
Also, if you can prove any wrong doing on their part, you can file suit against them in civil court for up to $1,000 per violation of the Fair Credit Act. That's right, turn the tables on them and get paid yourself.
Furthermore, while you are taking the time to fight this take a couple of minutes to file a report against them with the better business bureau, your state attorney general's office, and the home state attorney's general office of their company, which is michigan.
#14 Consumer Suggestion
DO NOT MISS YOUR COURT DATE AND DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH THEIR LAWYERS
AUTHOR: C R - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 10, 2007
Keep all records of phone calls, letters received, and letters you have sent to them. Dates, times, and content should all be saved. Even the envelopes that any material may have come in.
Before your court appearance, send them a certified letter (return receipt) stating that the statute of limitations has run out for collecting this type of debt thru the court system. There are plenty of places on the web to find form letters of this type. Use careful wording as to not admit to the debt being yours.
Once in front of the judge, if the case is not dismissed immediately, demand proof of receipt for what Asset ACTUALLY paid to obtain this debt. Often times its about 7 cents per dollar. In most cases, the collection agency can only collect what they actually paid for the debt. In this case, it sounds like they got this account for about $10.
Also, if you can prove any wrong doing on their part, you can file suit against them in civil court for up to $1,000 per violation of the Fair Credit Act. That's right, turn the tables on them and get paid yourself.
Furthermore, while you are taking the time to fight this take a couple of minutes to file a report against them with the better business bureau, your state attorney general's office, and the home state attorney's general office of their company, which is michigan.
#15 Consumer Comment
Sounds like a summons.
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, September 09, 2007
Do NOT ignore it. Many of these jerks file a civil suit even though the SOL is expired with the hope that you won't respond - they get a default judgement against you. The court will not evoke SOL expiration as your defense - YOU must do that in your rebuttal or during the hearing.
Side note: Credit reports are just that - REPORTS. A credit report has no bearing on whether a debt is valid or not, or collectible or not. Just because something is NOT LISTED on your credit report does not mean it's not valid or collectible.
Whether a debt is valid or collectible is what COURTS decide, NOT credit bureaus and the reports they sell to subscribers.
Good Luck.
#16 Author of original report
Update
AUTHOR: Upsetinohio - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, September 08, 2007
I don't have any judgement or anything on this. I already checked my credit reports last night online and it does not show anything and it is current as of yesterday.
the paper from the court is only to get my answer or how I will pay the amount in question.
I have two things going for me, I have no record of of me even having that account they are questioning, and nothing shows on my credit report either, plus the so called account they are asking about says it was from 1994. That is way over the statues of limitations for that kind of debt here in Ohio.
Plus if you look thru the complaints on Asset Acceptance you will see I am not the first one they have tried to scam by producing a fake debt or mistake on someone.
Plainly put, Asset Acceptance should be put out of business and shut down for good before they have a class action suit against them by all the people they have the tried to get money from for debts that never existed. I see on ripoffreports of other companies that have had class action lawsuits against them for ripping off a large number of consumers.
#17 Consumer Suggestion
Are you sure there isn't a jdugment against you?
AUTHOR: Tim - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, September 08, 2007
Check your credit reports to see if there is a judgment against you. If there is, you will be dealing with a whole different SOL.
Best of luck!
#18 Consumer Suggestion
Nothing in FDCPA about 6 years
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 05, 2007
Things to do:
FIRST - Read the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act at ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm.
SECOND - send a certified letter, return receipt requested, to the DEBT COLLECTOR to dispute the debt and request written validation of the debt or any copy of a judgment, or the name and address of the original creditor, and a copy of such validation or judgment, or name and address of the original creditor. Also, include a statement stating that you do not wish to be contacted again until you receive all the written debt validation information you have requested. In your case you want to clearly state that this is NOT YOUR DEBT and you should specifically ask for the following documentation:
What the money you say I owe is for;
Explain and show me how you calculated what you say I owe;
Provide me with copies of any papers that show I agreed to pay what you say I owe;
Provide a verification or copy of any judgment if applicable;
Identify the original creditor;
Prove the Statute of Limitations has not expired on this account;
Show me that you are licensed to collect in my state;
Provide me with your license numbers and Registered Agent.
THIRD - Once you received the written validation information requested, contact the CREDITOR (who owns the debt) via certified mail to resolve the matter.
It is important that communication between you and this debt collector be in WRITING! So, I wouldn't not talk to them, EXCEPT to obtain an address for sending a certified, return receipt requested letter to dispute and demand validation of this alleged debt.
#19 Author of original report
Update on my complaint against Asset Acceptance
AUTHOR: Upsetinohio - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 05, 2007
What else I do not understand is how Asset Acceptance is still in business after reading the hundreds of complaints filed by consumers against them??
I am guessing there is probably thousands of consumers that got taken by Asset Acceptance over the years.
Many people do not know their rights under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and I think courts and lawyers should all be aware of that act and help consumers out that are defrauded by companies like Asset Acceptance.
Asset Acceptance should not be in business. Hopefully enough consumers file complaints on them thru this website and other agencies to close Asset Acceptance down for good.
#20 Consumer Suggestion
They can still collect.
AUTHOR: Nikki - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 04, 2007
If you just figure Asset cannot sue you after the statute of limitations is over, and don't go to court, no one will bring the statute of limitations rule up to the judge and the judge may rule in favor of Asset. It will then be a pain in the neck to get the judgment vacated.
I am not an attorney, but have learned the above from different posts on this website and others. Be careful what you say and how you say it.

