Aviation Institute Of Maintenance, AIM ripoff, scammed, mounting student loan debt with no credits Virginia Beach Virginia

Before you jump in, do your home work... and in you are here, you are well ahead of the rest.

I have read several people that feel that they have been ripped off. I cannot speak about the other campuses, but as for Dallas, there is a introduction before you start classes where it is explained IN DETAIL about your responsibilities for loans, etc.

I can also enlighten you about your future in aviation... there are jobs out there!
#1) You are NOT going to start out at top pay, the promises that the recruiters are laying out there are for LICENSED mechanics that have been working for a few years. 
#2) I started out in 1990 at a corporate service center making $11.00. I was hoping to make $9 for my first job. I averaged about a dollar an hour pay raise a year (depending on company profits) and I have been working on planes for over 20 years now.
#3) Think about it. Are we ever going to be without some sort of aviation? Even Burt Rutan hires A&P mechanics to work on his spacecraft (http://burtrutan.com/burtrutan/BurtRutan.php)

The facility in Dallas is one of the best up-and-coming aviation schools in America (in my opinion).
I went to another school (was #2 in the nation at the time) and the Dallas campus not only meets what I had, but exceeds what I had there. Dallas actually has a Learjet in the hangar and YES! students work in it.

The truth of the matter is, it cost a lot of money, but the return will be in your favor. You WILL make enough to pay back your loans and have a good career. It just takes time and commitment to what you want to do with your life.

i went to the norfolk campus and Chesapeake , the instructors were vary helpful and had lots of knowledge in each subject they instructed. i asked lots of questions and was never miss led on the type of jobs that were out there or how much you would make , the tools were adequate , the reason the drop out rate is so high is the rejects are thinking they can skate through with no effort like high school , i got through half way and some of my classmates had no idea what a hammer was versus a screwdriver , he obviously should not have been a mechanic , he later dropped out it became to hard for him , same with most who did drop out for each their own reasons ,  but the knowledge you gained if you really listened and studyied was invaluable ,

i graduated and took my 3 tests and passed all within 2 days then took my DME in one day from 7am till 6pm and received my A&P certificate with no issues , i went to work starting out at 18.50 an hour worked their for a year and quit it was not enough money for the liability , and aircraft work is really sketchy always have layoffs , and how any one who works in the industry or is going to school to get into aircraft , its all over the news all the time Boeing and Lockheed lays off every few years so you cant blame aim for that , it is the industry

i used the experience and my A&P to get a better job now i am making 25 and hour and have never been affected by anything financial and have been working since 2008 when i graduated. if you want to make money in any industry you have to move ware the money is , yes around norfolk starting wage was 9 an hour and top out is around 22 when i was thare in 08 , i moved to ware the money is and have never had an issue. you can not blame aim for your poor research , if you are looking for a career ware you live look around and decided what pays good and what dose not , aim dose thare job provides you with training to get the hours to be able to take the test and also most of the instructors on thare off time will help you for DME prepping, it is all set forth in F A R's if you made it that far . as for the pay they based it off of a national avarage not for ware their campus's are located do your research

AIM fulfills its regulatory responsibilities and well prepares serious students for a well-paid career.  No airline is going to start a brand new A & P mechanic at $18.00 an hour.  If you think that, your powers of research are seriously inadequate.  But, after a probation period and a year or so under your belt, if you are a good learner and apply yourself in your job, any airline will pay you a living wage (in the neighborhood of $18.00 an hour) and top-out near retirement at twice that.  Sure it's tough to get a job.  Training and certification never guarantee a job; are you nuts?

AIM will teach you what you need to know to get your A & P certification.  The rest is up to you.  To expect any more from a school is lazy and unrealistic.

They have a 35% graduation rate the dont care to help the students. they have had over 15 students the month of july drop out before you join go to the campus and speak to a student they will tell you to run like hell they hinder you from getting a career they have an exellent program just the wrong school

I saw the advert. in the Orlando Sentinel -- right next to Concorde University - - I went to Concorde and saw what can be described as a 'glorified highschool / tradeschool/vocational education.'   I saw students that looked more like going through the motion than focused and intent as you may see at a more reputable facility. I read some very bad reviews about Concorde ... they did send a very impressive pamphlet in the mail , very professional looking ---   the guy I spoke with spent 30 min. with me on the phone .. (if that tells you anything).

Now on the aviation institute here in Orlando - I know it is next to th e Chevron gas station because when I was getting gas there I remembered that it was a vacant car dealership that used to be there ---- so I know what it used to be and that this place sprung up very recently.  I went in there, and asked about tuition pricing -- and all the receptionist wanted to do was sit me down with someone --  I called and asked about tuition and again the avoidance of the cost of the thing.  After reading reviews here, I see why --   with the job market we are in, and with less people flying because of the intrusions of DHS and TSA -- why would there be a need for aircraft mechanics -- oh I know !! if there is a war .. there will be a need for military aircraft maintanence ? I doubt it , as the military likely wants to train it's own enlistees, not people from private training.

I tried to schedule a tour , got passed around on the phone and then finally hung up on.  When I called back it didn't seem like they were too aware of my call  within in 2 minutes, definitely not too serious, just very casual and lackluster.
They probably aren't paid much and aren't expected to do much and probably don't perform too highly because of it.

I'm not impressed with the little amount that I have seen and heard on my few attempts and I see little future for such training -- unless people are going to be traveling by air soon (remember the air -car listed in popular mechanics so many times) ... 

Based on the fact that they no one could even say it is $10k a year and it is a 2 year program or anything along those lines ...  I'll not be wasting my time in there for an interview .. there is a bunch of these 'quickie' colleges springing up around here -- Herzine is one that comes to mind previously - it used to be a a Bally's total fitness (which closed down) 
.. People think because they are out of a job it's a good time to get some new skills .. but remember people all these skills you pay so much for and may even attain are no guarantee there will be a paying job for you provided by someone/company --- perhaps if you start your own thing that could be something but the jobs are few , the employers are picky and cheap , demanding many hours with your free overtime --- and remember, you only get 2 weeks (10 days ) of vacation per year in the US standard (if you even get that) and in Europe they get  SIX WEEKS VACA !!!!

So -- do what you can with what you have and don't add to the 'debtor nation / people ' problem that already exists in the USA -- government handouts , welfare and debt ... makes for a week people and nation ... be strong and work with what you have --- don't get a 2 or 4 year degree or get your master's and expect something job offers .. you have to _scramble to even get a miniscule job --- unless it's something like a high-turnover, base + commission thing, which is just a short term job which you are not expected to last in ....

Save your money -- there are lots of FREE educational sites on the web ... 
Vocational education is a better/cheaper route to go than going to something fancy and being in debt and having another monthly bill...

There is a college called Full Sail here that has all the fun toys .. film and video,  music making, computer game generation .., etc .. yet most of these students end up in near $100k debt and coming back and working for that college to pay off their debt to it !!

I would like to take a second to say something about AIM.I graduated from there in January of 2007.Now what this last person just wrote is only half the story and I like how this person "forgot"some very important details.
AIM is a school that has to abide by the rules set by the FAA and if this particular person had stayed in school they might have understood that.You are required by the FAA - NOT THE SCHOOL, to be in attendance a specific number of hours.So, yes if you miss,you have to make it up and to be fair they ARE open for your use everyday except Sunday!!!They have morning and evening classes and you are also welcome to make up time for about 2hrs a day between these classes.You can also make up up to 6 hrs on Saturdays.And if you know you are going to miss a day you can request to take the class opposite of yours!

Now I am a female and had 3 children when I started school and even had my 4th shortly after graduating!So I understand the stress involved with trying to be a parent and trying to get an education,but this person needed to have been responsible enough to have a reliable sitter for school hours,that is NOT AIM's fault!!! Further more I have NEVER seen ANYTHING in or around the AIM campus about child care!! 
I also have to say that it is hard to get a job in this industry,but again had this person gotten through the program they would have known that A LOT of companies do hiring here they just wait for you to get close to graduating to invite you to this stuff,obviously a company is only going to hire those close to graduating anyway.Also if you take the time to graduate the school has EXCELLENT job search help if you have not found anything.

The drop out rate IS high but that is because people want a good job but don't want to sacrifice anything in their daily lives,which is a shame.I believe the FAA does the required hour thing to help weed out those that WANT to do this, from those who just WANT a job!!!I don't want to get on an aircraft being maintained by someone who doesn't really care!......would YOU?

My question is for Katherine in Virginia Beach.

Where does your brother work? I would like to know.

I am an aircraft mechanic (A&P) with over 25 years experience. I got laid off from the airlines in 2003. After job searching for a year  the only offer I got was at $15.00 per hour.

I have seen AIM ads in the local papers and I think they are misleading the young people.  The heading usually says AIRLINES ARE HIRING.  I know this is not the case. Airlines are laying off mechanics and outsourcing the work to foreign countries with cheap labor. 

The aviation institute of maintenance is a greedy money making machine.
many students don't get their A&P license because they can't pass the FAA test.
The cost is over $30,000, which means you will have over $20,000.00 in loans to pay off.
There is an excellent community college in upstate N.Y., called Mohawk Community College-I think. The program is only 12 months long, fully FAA certified and the cost is about $10,000.00! And that's for out of state students!! It's cheaper if you live there.
Check it out for yourself. An A&P lic is the same, anywhere. Why pay 30k, when you can get it for 10k... and with a lot less sneaky nonsense from school management- too numerous to mention.

Be very careful about that student loan debt. If your debt goes into default, Sallie Mae has the ability to tack on exorbitant fees, and the interested is compounded.

There are countless horror stories of student loan debt doubling and there's nothing you can do about it. student loan debt cannot be discharged through Chapter 7 BK and there is no statue of limitations.

studentloanjustice.org has a lot of info....

Deal with this debt now. if you let it default. you'll never pay it off.

Be very careful about that student loan debt. If your debt goes into default, Sallie Mae has the ability to tack on exorbitant fees, and the interested is compounded.

There are countless horror stories of student loan debt doubling and there's nothing you can do about it. student loan debt cannot be discharged through Chapter 7 BK and there is no statue of limitations.

studentloanjustice.org has a lot of info....

Deal with this debt now. if you let it default. you'll never pay it off.

Be very careful about that student loan debt. If your debt goes into default, Sallie Mae has the ability to tack on exorbitant fees, and the interested is compounded.

There are countless horror stories of student loan debt doubling and there's nothing you can do about it. student loan debt cannot be discharged through Chapter 7 BK and there is no statue of limitations.

studentloanjustice.org has a lot of info....

Deal with this debt now. if you let it default. you'll never pay it off.

Be very careful about that student loan debt. If your debt goes into default, Sallie Mae has the ability to tack on exorbitant fees, and the interested is compounded.

There are countless horror stories of student loan debt doubling and there's nothing you can do about it. student loan debt cannot be discharged through Chapter 7 BK and there is no statue of limitations.

studentloanjustice.org has a lot of info....

Deal with this debt now. if you let it default. you'll never pay it off.

I am a 35 yo student a mother of a 4 year old and I have seem to pull this off. I work full time, take 24 credits a semester, raise a child and keep my home in working order. I knew what I was getting into when I started school and I am not complaining. As an adult, shouldn't you have read everything before you even signed anywhere. Trade schools are a risk and a blessing for those who know what they want to do. You CAN make a lot of money being a CERTIFIED FAA Mechanic. My brother is one and is making $58 per hour. He is a graduate of AIM, the potential is there, but is there for the person who is just starting?? It's not the school, it's the person. There is no scam, there are just people who do not read when they are told to sign. You knew of all the things you had to do, you should have thought about it before you bit off more than you can chew.

And AIM does have airworthy aircraft. Visit www.fighterfactory.com they have a blog of the students rebuilding a plane now.

I don't mean to be rude, but you really should read what you sign before you putting your signature on it. If you do read it before hand, you might want to make sure you are willing and able to follow through with all of your obligations before you get in too deep.