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  • Submitted: Thu, June 13, 2013
  • Updated: Wed, July 31, 2013

  • Reported By: BFHAUTO — Phoenix Arizona
BCX Printing Centers
5612 W. Myrtle Glendale, Arizona USA

BCX Printing Centers Inferior quality, unfinsihed work and poor communication skills Glendale Arizona

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: For Walter for whom I was a customer of and filed a rip off report against

*Consumer Comment: Beware of BCX Printing in Glendale, Arizona!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: NOT ONCE DID THIS GUY DO WHAT HE SAID

*Author of original report: Very Vindictive Guy

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Harassment charges filed

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***BEWARE***  Mr. Michael Sabie and his company BCX printing are a complete fraud!  I wish I would have done some internet research on this guy and his company before I hired him and giving him a deposit on Paypal from an ad he has on Craigslist.  The other complaints on here are spot on!  I can not believe this guy!  You watch what his response will be, it will be the same "rant" that he gave everyone else that agrees with me that he does a horrible job. 

This “gentleman” thinks that EVERYONE is out to screw him!  I have been in business for over 21 years and I have met 10,000+ customers in my life and have done business with dozens of vendors - this guy is CRAZY!  I disputed my "deposit" thru Paypal with this guy and some how he may have gotten into the account and put in a fake response from a previous email (I am now in the process of appealing it thru Paypal - via fax machine this time). [continued below]....

.....  If you can believe it this guy is threatening to bring me to court for a balance due on a job he walked away from because I wanted him to do it right.  POOR QULAITY!  BAD SERVICE!  ANGRY LITTLE MAN!  Read the following email he sent me - he has nothing better to do!  That is why his business is the way it is!  Here is a copy of that “professional” email:    Please do yourself a favor and hire someone else!  I have a feeling I will be dealing with this guy for some time to come!

Yeah whatever you say scam artist. i wasnt about to jump to your demands and your very mistaken about me. ive dealt with enough car dealer scam artists like you to know the steps needed to cover my ass when you try and pull one of your scams. if im the guy who is clueless then why is it you who defaulted on the contract yet think you will get anything back? nit only that ive already contacted my collection company who happened to have a file open for you. Something about camelback toyota and some banks you defaulted. i dont know exactly but im sure you have it covered it was all their issues anyway i know... Anyway i have forwarded all my records including the recorded mpegs from my phone of conversations we had and you were clearly made aware they were recorded. All emails which directly contradict your conversations were forwarded as well. no guy the right thing here is the legal thing and legally you are in default and considering im wasting non of my own time itvwill all be added to your default amount due including collection costs and layers fees. finally there is an APR of 18 percent for all unpaid balances so keep that in mind as well. if you choose to save yourself some money i suggest you pay your debt. i will let the collection people and paypal handle their part but you agreed to no refund so that obviously means no refunds. and indid my job you failed to pay for it. no hoops i can see just laws. At this point, you are now literally breaking the law. It states very clearly in my invoice that there are no refunds. you said and i have the voice mail saved, that you now after i have performed the job you hired me for, you were not willing to pay me for that job nor were you willing to pay me for the graphic art you asked me to do. you cannot order a job, agree to the deposit being non refundable then claim you never received your goods... you received your goods with signage on them and installed into your sign so the balance due is due and is claimable by law. You refused to pay me for the job i said i would redo it but you needed to pay and you refused .There is no good faith in the fact you did not pay for your job yet there is a contract for two signs to be done and delivered to you and a logo to be created for a set amount of $50. you refused to pay for either of those items you entered into a contract for so you are in breach and added to it a false claim stating you never received your job which you in fact did receive yet refused to pay for. I am contacting 3 people after this email is sent. first im contacting paypal and sending the proof of the contract you defaulted on. I assume they have the deposit invoice you agreed to the terms on which clearly stated no refunds in any circumstance  yet filed a false claim anyway. and last I am sure you will find out soon enough because the law is clear in this case. you hired me for a sign the sign was completed and installed. it was not un readable it was not unusable however you did not like it and wanted it changed .,

You still are under contract to pay for that sign at that time. Period. When you refused to pay you broke the contract and you broke the law. explain all the stories you like the law is the law is the law. You are a scam I called it the second you refused to pay for the artwork then refused to pay the balance. Well I am not accepting anything but the full payment due period end of story.  In addition the fact you changed the entire verbage on the sign as well as the colors means I have every right to charge additional fees for those changes and I am most crertainly allowed time to recreate the art. The time schedule you refer to is based on the original signs with minor redos not entire copy and color changes. You are nothing but a scam and I will not be ripped off. I am sorry my schedule did not fit into your 2 days you demanded but my week is full . had you let me redo the items we agreed on yor sign would be  up and finished. ANd if you recall I made it clear I record my phone conversations so I have it very clearly stated that you were in no hurry for a dealer license because you already have one. I have that entire conversation yet you emailed me the exact opposite. The dealer license is going to be petitioned by me . I am filing notice that you have defaulted on your contract and they should review your license application. I will not allow my business to be ripped off and you are obviously lying in one instance or the other so i have every bit of proof i need to prove it to whoever needs to hear it.

     I did not agree to anything other than the contract we had in writing. The balance due is past due at this point. You had your signs and you refused to pay for them. I explained I would redo them no problem but the balance due is still due. You changed the order after the fact there is a new balance due obviously new artwork, new colors new vinyl so added cost. Simple. You will be held responsible for the debts you owe my business plus all attorneys fees and collection costs incurred to collect those balances. You are given notice you are in default and there will be a claim filed for all said moneys due my business and myself. In addition to te complaints I am filing with paypal and the AZ Attorney eneral and dealer license department

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

For Walter for whom I was a customer of and filed a rip off report against

AUTHOR: MMJJ - ()

Walter, funny you do not give your experience as o why you make these false claims? Truth is you are someone who pulled your own scam and since I didn't just ignore it you feel I am somehow wrong or nutty I guess? Well for the record, I paid Walter here up front for a frum I needed for a machine I had just purchased. He promised to send it immediately when receiving payment. After 10 days went by and no drum delivered I called to ask what happened. At that time I asked to cancel the order since he had not even sent the drum yet. So went from guaranteeing it the next day he would ship it to not even shipping it 10 days later. Walter refused to refund me my money so I was forced to put out another $250 bucks and buy another drum and then over 2 weeks later his drum showed up. It was then useless to me and still sits here unused. If I am a nutcase for that then so be it man... Still makes you no less the scam artist you are.

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#2 Consumer Comment

Beware of BCX Printing in Glendale, Arizona!

AUTHOR: Walter Thompson - ()

I also had the misfortune of dealing with Mike Sabie at BCX Printing in Glendale,Arizona. I would never refer anyone to this company. The owner is a complete psychopathic jerk. Do yourself a favor and stay away from this nut case at BCX Printing in Glendale, Arizona.

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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

NOT ONCE DID THIS GUY DO WHAT HE SAID

AUTHOR: MMJJ - ()

Here is this persons email to me after all the emails previously ok claiming I forced the logo on him that he knew nothing about that I was ripping him off etc... He ran to paypal and they rejected his false claims on and on all the way to me having to contact the police to ask for relief from Harrassment from this guy....Now all of a suden he wants to forget everything and come pay me cash and pick up the sign????? CAN WE SAY BI-POLAR??? So I agreed I said great come pick up the sign pay me cash like you said in your email and remove your false claims from the internet.... Here is his offer...

Mike,
 
I do not know if you received my voicemail so I wanted to shoot you a quick email.  Hey listen this is completely getting out of control.  I am will to eat the $259.94 , even though I am still unhappy with the quality of the work I do not want to fight with you any longer.  Lets get this settled and move on in life!  I know you are too busy for this nonsense and I know I am too busy for this nonsense!  I will give you the $259.94 in exchange for the "plastic" lexan - thats it, you do not have to do anything!  You do not have to fix the vinyl, you do not have to install - nothing!  Just bring the piece over (or I will come and get it since I know you do not have a vehicle).  I will give you CASH.  We will write up an agreement that we are both satisfied and that neither of us owes the other anything!  We will both agree to remove any and all "reviews" that we have given each other and we will be done with it!  What do you say - do want to be done with this?
 
Let me know,
 
Brett 602-446-3851.

Really? Here is very next email sent to me...

I just paid invoice #1836 in full in the amount of $259.94 thru Paypal.  We are now settled up.   Please deliver the other half of my sign or let me know and I will make arrangements to have it picked up from you.  Once again I do not want you to "finish" the job I just paid you in full for, all I want is the product and I will have someone else finish it.  I hope this will put this matter to rest and we can both move on to better endeavor's.  Thanks, Brett.
 

DID I MISS SOMETHING? THE SIGN WAS FINISHED WHEN I SAID IT WOULD BE FIRST OFF AND IT WAS HE WHO WANTED IT CHANGED THE COLORS THE WORDING EVERYTHING HE WANTED CHANGED THAT WAS WHY I TOOK THE PIECE BACK AND HE REFUSED TO PAY ME FOR THE BALANCE SO I WASN'T LEAVING IT ALL THERE..

So he comes full circle now and agrees he was wrong for lying about the situation about straight up LYING ABOUT THE GRAPHIC ART WORK HE ORDERED THAT I DID THAT HE STATES WAS NEVER ORDERED AND I WAS MAKING IT UP... now he has come full circle and wants to pay me cash and pick it up.. so he pays Paypal and demands i deliver it... ???

NOW WHO WOULD EVER FIGURE THIS GUY FOR A SCAM ARTIST AFTER ALREADY ONE TIME TRYING TO GET A REFUND FROM PAYPAL WHEN I CLEARLY HAD IT IN MY INVOICE NO REFUNDS YET HE RUNS THERE LYING TRYING TO GET IT REFUNDED... NOW HE IS ALL OF A SUDDEN AFTER FILING ALL OF THESE FALSE CLAIMS ALL OVER THE PLACE TRYING TO BLACKMAIL USING THESE CLAIMS AS HIS WAY OF TRYING TO GET ME TO REFDUND HIS MONEY CUZ HE IS SUCH A SCAM... NOW HE IS GOING TO PAY ME CASH AND PICK IT UP ... BUT INSTEAD WITH NO WORDS SAID ABOUT IT.. HE PAYS PAYPAL AND DEMANDS I DROP IT OFF????

CAN WE SAY SCAMMER??? NOT ROCKET SCIENCE WHAT THIS USED CAR SCAM ARTISIT IS TRYING TO PULL... I EVEN AGREED TO NOT DEMAND CASH BUT PAY THRU ANOTHER FORM SO I SENT HIM AN INVOICE TO THAT LOCATION HE NEVER PAID IT... GO FIGURE RIGHT?? HE INSISTS OH YOU NEED TO REFUND ME FIRST?? SORRY DUDE YOU PAID THE PAYPAL NO ONE TOLD YOU TO PAY THEM NO ONE AGREED TO ACCEPT IT AND NO ONE IS REFUNDING ANYTHING UNTIL YOU MAKE THE PAYMENT AGREED UPON AND AT THAT TIME SINCE I HAVE PROVEN I AM NOT THE LIAR I AM NOT THE SCAM I DID NOT make false lies about you and what you said and what you did so I would under my good name refund you the paypal after you removed your lies and paid like you said you would but none of it happened and it was obvious it would not...

NOTHING MORE I AM GOING TO DO.. THIS JOB WAS THE CRZIEST EVER.. THIS GUY , LIES I PROVED IT... HE IS PARANOID.. SAYING I HACKED HIS PAYPAL?? LOL... I HAD TO SEEK THE POLICE FOR HELP FROM HIS HARRASSMENT AND BLACKMAIL... IN THE END THE MORAL IS STAY AWAY FROM SHADY USED CAR DEALERS WHO OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE AND THIER CARS SEEM TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY ARE...

RUN A SEARCH AND YOU WILL SEE HOW HE GETS HIS LOW MILEAGE VEHICLES AND THE CLEAN TITLES THERE IS A SISTER COMPANY IN TEXAS OF ALL PLACES.. SEARCH WASH TITLES ON GOOGLE AND SEE WHAT KIND OF RISK IS TAKEN WHEN PURCHASING ONE OF ANY UNBELIEVABLE GREAT DEALS ON LOW MILE VEHICLES.. MY ADVICE IS RUN AND GO TO A REAL AUTO DEALER NOT SOME SCAM ON THE SIDE OF THE FREEWAY.

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#4 Author of original report

Very Vindictive Guy

AUTHOR: BFHAUTO - ()

Just so everyone out there knows, I did offer to settle this matter with BCX Printing and Mr. Michael Sabie Jr. He refused to work it out. Here was my offer to him right from the beginning. Mr. Sabie Jr. and I both agreed that we started out on the wrong foot and I offered to just "move on" and I asked him to either refund my $200.00 deposit and he could take the poor quality signage with him or he could leave the "plastic" and I would have a more professional sign company re due the vinyl lettering (I even told him he could rip off the vinyl he put on - he was very persistent that I was trying to rip him off like all other car dealers). He wanted nothing to do with this offer. I think that he thinks everyone is out to get him when really he just does poor quality work. As far as his threats to get a harassment order - I doubt it - this guy is all talk and has nothing better to do than threaten people all day. I have been waiting for his process server to show up and still nothing! Not a licensed and bonded dealer??? Give me a break - you can all go to my website at autoparadiseaz.com to see this guy is just making stuff up and deflecting to make himself seem like the "victim". This sign is actually for our “second” location opening on July 1st. The package that I have put together for the Arizona Attorney General’s office and the Registor of Contractors includes copies of my personal and my company bank statements that clearly show that Mr. Sabie Jr. is slandering my business and my name. All of you viewing this dispute already know that this is going to cost Mr. Sabie Jr. and I several thousand dollars before it is over. I am patiently waiting for Mr. Sabie Jr. to turn this matter over to his collection agency and to be served with court papers (nothing yet). If and when he does this I will take some of that money “I do not have” and use it to defend myself, my business and my reputation. I will keep all of you posted on the status of this dispute as it will go on for month’s maybe even years! Don’t forget to research this guy and his company – I am not the only victim out there with a similar story! All over $259.94 - WOW - what a bunch of idiots we are (I know that is what you all are thinking and I agree)!!! I would prefer to just write it off as a bad business expense but this guy refuses to leave me and my business alone! He is forcing me to get my attorneys involved and to warn other potential victims out there. By the way "slander" is something that is absolutely false and is said to try and make someone look bad and to try and ruin their reputation - it is said without merit or proof! Mr. Sabie Jr. has clearly done this and will pay for it in the end! He will claim that I am slandering him, however, I have three sworn and notarized statements from others that were there the day he delivered the signs and those statements will also be included in my package and these individuals will be going to the SUPERIOR (yes, not small claims) court with me when we file suit against this LIAR!

 

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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Harassment charges filed

AUTHOR: Mike - ()

This person has charges filed for harrassment of my business and myself. Claiming I hacked a Paypal account is absurd and this person is every bit the scam artist he is proving himself to be. His sign was completed as promised yet he wanted it changed and demanded it done immediately yet he never paid for the sign at all and is now claiming it was poorly done etc. in addition Paypal denied his cc lain which in the Paypal invoice it clearly states no refunds as it is because I purchased materials which he still has and yet he thinks he should not pay gift any of it because he was going to be charged for his changes as well as I didn't rush to get him his new sign in a day. Bottom line he is a scam has no money to pay for the sign and niw has to answer to not only my collection company but to the courts fur why he believes by not paying for his sign allows him thw right to slander and blackmail my business in order to get out of paying for work that was ordered and completed. If there are any doubts this guy is seriously ill jChe realize he claims I hacked his Paypal in order not to steal his money but to change an email he sent??? This guy is a scam ghetto diesnt have a dime left and had been selling cars without a license for quite some time so he is now pisded that he will not get that license after the complaint is filed against him for defaulting on his contract.

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