• Report: #465581

Complaint Review: BP Gas Station

  • Submitted: Sat, June 27, 2009
  • Updated: Sun, September 06, 2009

  • Reported By:N/A Michigan
BP Gas Station
14 Mile And Schenor Sterling Heights, Michigan U.S.A.

BP Gas Station Ripp off on gas. Gave 20 bucks to fill up tank but they stopped the pump at 10 bucks and never gave 10 bucks back since I gave a 20 Sterling Heights Michigan

* : Bizman, looks like you were right about the station

* : Ashley, your wrong about honest stations due to gov oversight

*Consumer Comment: Pablo

*Consumer Comment: Pablo

*Consumer Comment: Pablo

*Consumer Comment: Pablo

*Consumer Comment: Fact

*Consumer Suggestion: best to go to national chains for gas

*Consumer Suggestion: best to go to national chains for gas

*Author of original report: not a racisit comment.

*Author of original report: not a racisit comment.

*Author of original report: not a racisit comment.

*Author of original report: not a racisit comment.

*Author of original report: hmmm?

*Consumer Comment: Racism

*Author of original report: OMG!!!

*Consumer Comment: Really

*Consumer Comment: Sorry..

*Consumer Comment: Sorry..

*Consumer Comment: Sorry..

*Consumer Comment: What should have happened..

*Author of original report: no it's not racism it's description for the locals...

*Consumer Comment: You had me until....

*Consumer Comment: The first paragraph says it all.

*Consumer Comment: Racist much?

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Be aware on 14 mile and schenor BP gas station. It may be a different gas station. I contacted BP and they said that they are independent gas station owner.

This owner is known to steal your money. If your paying by cash. You better remeber what you gave them. We gave them a 20 to fill up our tank. The make you pay first. So we went and pumped gas for our car. Then we notice at 10 bucks they stopped it. We went back inside and told them that the pump stoped. They said ya you only gave us 10 bucks. We knew we gave them a 20. They never gave us back our money at all. We told the sterling heights police and they just lol. They told us what do you want us to do about it. We called BP and they did the same.

This gas station is located on schenor at the intersection of 14 mile. They are located on the south west corner of this intersection.

The owner of that gas station is an arab.

north of that gas station is murreys. We went their one type because our car needed to be fixed. They said that their is gas stations near here where they can do the job. We told them no way will we go to this gas station and told them the story. They told us oh ya they hear they ripped off many.

Beware of this gas station. They will steal your money if you paid in cash.

We also wanted to make sure if that was right. So we got our bank statement and figured out money. We found out we were right we did give them a 20.

I would recommend anyone thinking of going here to pick a different place. The store owner is a crook.

Bizman32
N/A, Michigan
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 06/27/2009 01:51 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/BP-Gas-Station/Sterling-Heights-Michigan-48312/BP-Gas-Station-Ripp-off-on-gas-Gave-20-bucks-to-fill-up-tank-but-they-stopped-the-pump-a-465581. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1

Bizman, looks like you were right about the station

AUTHOR: Pablo - (U.S.A.)

Just talked to relatives in that area and they said the pumps have been pulled and the guy is shutting down. So that gives credence to your claim of being short changed. If a guy is about to close up, sure, he'll have no problem being crooked. What does he care? Hes going out of business. To me your claim is fully believable and logical especially with the crook closing up. No doubt the arab owner ( former owner ) became a thief in his waning days. And, yes, the relatives say it was a arab guy in the place.
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Ashley, your wrong about honest stations due to gov oversight

AUTHOR: Pablo - (U.S.A.)

Fact is, girl, there used to be a column in the newspaper weekly showing the fines and penalties of stations that were underpumping. And I'll tell you it was rather lengthy. The problem was that these stations could rip people off for thousands and when caught paid a fine of between 100 and 500. It was a joke. I would be glad to pay fines of 100.00 if it meant I could steal several thousand. I'm sure you could dig the info up on the agriculture and weights gov sites if you think I'm paranoid about getting ripped off.
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Pablo

AUTHOR: Ashley - (U.S.A.)

Oh and Pablo,

having worked at many gas stations, you realize that there is government oversight right? In my state, gas stations are inspected twice a year by the department of weights and measures to make sure all the gas pumps are dispensing the correct amount of gas.

I doubt you have ever been ripped off by a station in the matter you are speaking of. The government would LOVE to find a gas station that was dispensing less than it said it was. If you know of one, call the government, they will send an inspector out to check.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Pablo

AUTHOR: Ashley - (U.S.A.)

Oh and Pablo,

having worked at many gas stations, you realize that there is government oversight right? In my state, gas stations are inspected twice a year by the department of weights and measures to make sure all the gas pumps are dispensing the correct amount of gas.

I doubt you have ever been ripped off by a station in the matter you are speaking of. The government would LOVE to find a gas station that was dispensing less than it said it was. If you know of one, call the government, they will send an inspector out to check.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Pablo

AUTHOR: Ashley - (U.S.A.)

Oh and Pablo,

having worked at many gas stations, you realize that there is government oversight right? In my state, gas stations are inspected twice a year by the department of weights and measures to make sure all the gas pumps are dispensing the correct amount of gas.

I doubt you have ever been ripped off by a station in the matter you are speaking of. The government would LOVE to find a gas station that was dispensing less than it said it was. If you know of one, call the government, they will send an inspector out to check.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Pablo

AUTHOR: Ashley - (U.S.A.)

Oh and Pablo,

having worked at many gas stations, you realize that there is government oversight right? In my state, gas stations are inspected twice a year by the department of weights and measures to make sure all the gas pumps are dispensing the correct amount of gas.

I doubt you have ever been ripped off by a station in the matter you are speaking of. The government would LOVE to find a gas station that was dispensing less than it said it was. If you know of one, call the government, they will send an inspector out to check.
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#7 Consumer Comment

Fact

AUTHOR: Ashley - (U.S.A.)

The fact that it bothers you so much what people think about you on the interest implies that you have a guilty conscience.

I don't need a lecture on racial discrimination. I know it when I see it.

Your story did not need to say what race the owner of the gas station was. That is unimportant to the story.
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#8 Consumer Suggestion

best to go to national chains for gas

AUTHOR: Pablo - (U.S.A.)

I always go either to Costco or Meijers or one of the big chains for gas. I think there you get what you pay for. Aside from the out and out thievery from the arab station, I've experienced and heard of getting shorted on gas. When you go to fill up a 2 gallon can for the grass cutter and you see nearly 3 gallons pumped when its filled to the 2 gallon line, you know its a crooked station. Never happened at the big chains but I remember seeing this at the independant guys. Lots of crooked independants. Lots.
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best to go to national chains for gas

AUTHOR: Pablo - (U.S.A.)

I always go either to Costco or Meijers or one of the big chains for gas. I think there you get what you pay for. Aside from the out and out thievery from the arab station, I've experienced and heard of getting shorted on gas. When you go to fill up a 2 gallon can for the grass cutter and you see nearly 3 gallons pumped when its filled to the 2 gallon line, you know its a crooked station. Never happened at the big chains but I remember seeing this at the independant guys. Lots of crooked independants. Lots.
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#10 Author of original report

not a racisit comment.

AUTHOR: Bizman32 - (U.S.A.)

the comment the store owner is arab. This is a description.

I don't get how it imply that arabs are lower then the gas stations around it.

I used it as a description. When people say that Obama is the first black president? Is that a racist comment/statement? To you it would be but to many it's not a racists statement.

A racist comment supposed to show that the person that made the comment is treating another people differently based on the persons race.

So in my comment I must of said that the gas station owner is arab so that means oh... I think the other gas stations is better because this gas station owner is arab and I think arabs rip people off or something.

I don't get where in the statement shows I treat arabs differently or said anything about my race being better then the arab race.

I don't see the comment being racist. I can see how others may take it as racial profiling. I don't get how you can think it was a racist comment.

I mean people say obama is black. That is his race. I am sure their is people that don't like some of his plans he is placing.

I never indicated anything that my judgement or opinion or feeling or the reason I made this report was because the store owner was arab.

If you notice I apologized earlier if this offended anyone or took it the wrong way. Yet the comments that came after treated me differently because they have a opinion on me of being racist.

I was called being a racist. Even though you said that I may not be a racist but my comment was racist. Yet in the earlier comments or posts I was called a racist. So I was viewed personally as a racist person. The reason was because of that statement. You said well you may not be racist but the comment was. I want to know where in my statements I indicated different treatment towards arabs. The comment is not raciest. It's just like saying obama is black. He is and it's a description. Not a racist remark.

Racism doesn't necessarily mean hate towards a race but it means your reasons your thoughts of a persons is based on the persons race. My comment should have to say something that shows that I am treating arabs differently then any other race. My comments were based of my opinions or thoughts of the arab race or nationality. Since it doesn't say anything in that manner it's not a racist comment just a description. FBI and local police uses this descriptions during a business investigation. The local news use this also to describe a business owner.
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#11 Author of original report

not a racisit comment.

AUTHOR: Bizman32 - (U.S.A.)

the comment the store owner is arab. This is a description.

I don't get how it imply that arabs are lower then the gas stations around it.

I used it as a description. When people say that Obama is the first black president? Is that a racist comment/statement? To you it would be but to many it's not a racists statement.

A racist comment supposed to show that the person that made the comment is treating another people differently based on the persons race.

So in my comment I must of said that the gas station owner is arab so that means oh... I think the other gas stations is better because this gas station owner is arab and I think arabs rip people off or something.

I don't get where in the statement shows I treat arabs differently or said anything about my race being better then the arab race.

I don't see the comment being racist. I can see how others may take it as racial profiling. I don't get how you can think it was a racist comment.

I mean people say obama is black. That is his race. I am sure their is people that don't like some of his plans he is placing.

I never indicated anything that my judgement or opinion or feeling or the reason I made this report was because the store owner was arab.

If you notice I apologized earlier if this offended anyone or took it the wrong way. Yet the comments that came after treated me differently because they have a opinion on me of being racist.

I was called being a racist. Even though you said that I may not be a racist but my comment was racist. Yet in the earlier comments or posts I was called a racist. So I was viewed personally as a racist person. The reason was because of that statement. You said well you may not be racist but the comment was. I want to know where in my statements I indicated different treatment towards arabs. The comment is not raciest. It's just like saying obama is black. He is and it's a description. Not a racist remark.

Racism doesn't necessarily mean hate towards a race but it means your reasons your thoughts of a persons is based on the persons race. My comment should have to say something that shows that I am treating arabs differently then any other race. My comments were based of my opinions or thoughts of the arab race or nationality. Since it doesn't say anything in that manner it's not a racist comment just a description. FBI and local police uses this descriptions during a business investigation. The local news use this also to describe a business owner.
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#12 Author of original report

not a racisit comment.

AUTHOR: Bizman32 - (U.S.A.)

the comment the store owner is arab. This is a description.

I don't get how it imply that arabs are lower then the gas stations around it.

I used it as a description. When people say that Obama is the first black president? Is that a racist comment/statement? To you it would be but to many it's not a racists statement.

A racist comment supposed to show that the person that made the comment is treating another people differently based on the persons race.

So in my comment I must of said that the gas station owner is arab so that means oh... I think the other gas stations is better because this gas station owner is arab and I think arabs rip people off or something.

I don't get where in the statement shows I treat arabs differently or said anything about my race being better then the arab race.

I don't see the comment being racist. I can see how others may take it as racial profiling. I don't get how you can think it was a racist comment.

I mean people say obama is black. That is his race. I am sure their is people that don't like some of his plans he is placing.

I never indicated anything that my judgement or opinion or feeling or the reason I made this report was because the store owner was arab.

If you notice I apologized earlier if this offended anyone or took it the wrong way. Yet the comments that came after treated me differently because they have a opinion on me of being racist.

I was called being a racist. Even though you said that I may not be a racist but my comment was racist. Yet in the earlier comments or posts I was called a racist. So I was viewed personally as a racist person. The reason was because of that statement. You said well you may not be racist but the comment was. I want to know where in my statements I indicated different treatment towards arabs. The comment is not raciest. It's just like saying obama is black. He is and it's a description. Not a racist remark.

Racism doesn't necessarily mean hate towards a race but it means your reasons your thoughts of a persons is based on the persons race. My comment should have to say something that shows that I am treating arabs differently then any other race. My comments were based of my opinions or thoughts of the arab race or nationality. Since it doesn't say anything in that manner it's not a racist comment just a description. FBI and local police uses this descriptions during a business investigation. The local news use this also to describe a business owner.
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#13 Author of original report

not a racisit comment.

AUTHOR: Bizman32 - (U.S.A.)

the comment the store owner is arab. This is a description.

I don't get how it imply that arabs are lower then the gas stations around it.

I used it as a description. When people say that Obama is the first black president? Is that a racist comment/statement? To you it would be but to many it's not a racists statement.

A racist comment supposed to show that the person that made the comment is treating another people differently based on the persons race.

So in my comment I must of said that the gas station owner is arab so that means oh... I think the other gas stations is better because this gas station owner is arab and I think arabs rip people off or something.

I don't get where in the statement shows I treat arabs differently or said anything about my race being better then the arab race.

I don't see the comment being racist. I can see how others may take it as racial profiling. I don't get how you can think it was a racist comment.

I mean people say obama is black. That is his race. I am sure their is people that don't like some of his plans he is placing.

I never indicated anything that my judgement or opinion or feeling or the reason I made this report was because the store owner was arab.

If you notice I apologized earlier if this offended anyone or took it the wrong way. Yet the comments that came after treated me differently because they have a opinion on me of being racist.

I was called being a racist. Even though you said that I may not be a racist but my comment was racist. Yet in the earlier comments or posts I was called a racist. So I was viewed personally as a racist person. The reason was because of that statement. You said well you may not be racist but the comment was. I want to know where in my statements I indicated different treatment towards arabs. The comment is not raciest. It's just like saying obama is black. He is and it's a description. Not a racist remark.

Racism doesn't necessarily mean hate towards a race but it means your reasons your thoughts of a persons is based on the persons race. My comment should have to say something that shows that I am treating arabs differently then any other race. My comments were based of my opinions or thoughts of the arab race or nationality. Since it doesn't say anything in that manner it's not a racist comment just a description. FBI and local police uses this descriptions during a business investigation. The local news use this also to describe a business owner.
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#14 Author of original report

hmmm?

AUTHOR: Bizman32 - (U.S.A.)

it dosen't indicate that I am superior then him. My comment is the same as the local police or an FBI statement about any business investigation. They usually would say his name with the race.

It was part of the description of the owner of the gas station that is it. It's not indicating that arabs the race is lower then Iraqis which were the 2 other gas stations.

You need to get educated on racism and what it is. I told many other people this whole store and also getting called a racist. They thought I was joking they were like what? are these people arab? if they are not why are they getting so worked up on something stupid.

if you look at the replies they forget about my report and did mostly focuse on that one statement about the store owner being arab.

The statement is not racism. You guys don't know what racisim is. You then accuse me of it. I talked to many people. I do have arab friends. I asked them. They saw this post and they were lol. They said they must be white people because they get offended by everything.

They agreed with me that it's not racism. Also what you mean is that I indicated that I implied that my race is better then the arab race because of this incident.

The comment about the store owner being arab is a description and is part of this report. He owns the gas station the ripped me off. This whole report is about him.

I never indicated superiority of a particular race in this case arab. I never implied that I was greater then arab people.

you just making stuff up. Trying to make a scene and back up your accusations with false evidence.

you chooses to view my comment as racist comment. I am sure it's not a racist comment. It's part of the description of the owner.

I am not sure if your confused. I think the word your looking for is racial profiling.

racist remark is a comment or statement that" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

having a racist comment would be a comment that states the race arabs is not equal to my race or something in that manner. You don't understand what racism is. My comment had to show either hate or think my race is better then them and should indicate that I am telling you to follow me with my feelings towards that race. I never done anything like that.

Seriously look up racism.Read it carefully before you accuse someone of it.

take a look at this please: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
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Racism

AUTHOR: Ashley - (U.S.A.)

Racism is not typically defined by showing hatred towards another race. You can be racist, and not hate other racist.

Racism is usually defined as the belief that you are superior to another race. By indicating the owner of this station is an Arab, it could be construed that you are implying that he is inferior to other gas station owners because he is an arab.

Either way, his nationality is unimportant to your rip off. Not to mention the pages and pages of prose you wrote to defend your guilty conscience.
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OMG!!!

AUTHOR: Bizman32 - (U.S.A.)

WOW, I need education??? you need to learn how to read. I am surprise that you know how to use a computer.

First off, I did say the city. Read the TITLE that is in red. Sterling Heights Michigan.

Secondly, my comment is not racist. I asked another board forum and asked about 170 other people. I even looked the word racism up just to make sure. I would love to see where in my statements I indicated that I hate made a statement that showed that I had a justifiable hate against arabs. The comment I said the store owner is arab. Is not racist. look the word up.

thirdly, I do know the difference between 10 bucks and 20 bucks. You seriously can't read.
I never said that after the guy took my 20 bucks and then I got 10 bucks worth of gas. I ran to the bank to check my bank statement to see somewhere in the statement where I paid the bp gas station 20 bucks. I never said that. I said I checked the bank statements to back up my records I have on my computer at my house. Their is something called money that you withdrew from the bank. I took out money on monday. I then went to the gas station on friday. I recorded everything I paid using just that money for the week. When I get to friday. I done the math. I counted whats in my wallet and then put it down. I then looked at my last balance. I then subtracted that with what I have in my wallet and found the difference which was 10 bucks. I knew I gave a 20. I got 10 bucks worth of gas. I then didn't get 20 bucks worth of gas. So I know for a fact I gave him a 20. I got 10 bucks worth of gas. The gas station stole the 10 bucks.
That is why in my balance sheet I have on my computer. I can find a difference of 10 bucks. This 10 bucks I can't account where the cost came from. I did write down 10 bucks for gas. Then I paid another 10 or must have paid another 10 cause their is a 10 bucks difference that I can't account for.

Now tell me where in the statment " the store owner is arab" is the racist part?

I didn't describe the murrays employees because they are not the ones that took 10 bucks away from me. I didn't give them a 20 and got 10 bucks worth of gas and they didn't give me the other 10 bucks.They are not the main focus of this story. The report is about the gas station.

That is why I did say that the store owner of murrays is owned by American. Not just that it's the only murrays in that area.

I have total of 3 gas stations in that intersection. Their is only one murrays close to that intersection. Their is no need to focus or give more information about them.

What your saying is like if I was a business and I got Robbed. The FBI asks me can you describe the guy.

I go oh ya the guy was American, he was white and had blond hair. Then I got oh I notice also a guy walking his dog and he was arab. Then a lady came in my store yesterday and bought some cookies.

I mean you are asking me to give irrelevant information and description. Murrays itself is not part of this.

I said only the part where they told me that they know other people that came in their and had similar experiences with that gas station. That is the only part that adds on to this topic/story.

Their is no need for me to tell you what sales they were having or what kind of a employee they were.

I can't believe your quick to call me a racist based on a comment that I used to describe then you know it's not a racist comment but you then are trying to find some way to make it a racist comment.

The comment is not racist at all. For it to be racist. It had to show I made the comment or statement in a way to justify my hate towards arab people. I had to show oh I hate arab and then say oh ya the reason because I got ripped off by a arab store owner. That right their is a racist comment or statement. So the comment had to show me hating arab and then backing my hate up with this episode. I never done that. All I said was the store owner is arab. I am describing the person. I certainly would say if the owner is American I should say the store owner is American.

That way if you go to that intersection and remeber oh their was a rip off report but I forgot which gas station it was. I gave you simple description. Just in case if you got ripped off. You will know it was the same guy or something.

I have asked many people about this. They all agreed with me. They said their is nothing their that indicated that I hate arab and the reason why I hate them because they run gas stations and steal peoples money. I nerve said anything like that.

You must be racist to think such a thing. I don't get where in my comment I showed any hate towards arab? please show me? then we can talk otherwise the comments I made had nothing to do with the race itself. So stop calling me racist it's rude and annoying.

I won't accept any apologies the damage been done. Calling someone a racist is worst then calling a person a thief. You damage the persons image. Then treat him differently because you assume the guy is racist or a thief. Once you find out the guy is not racist or a theif. Then what gives you the right to call the person that.
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#17 Consumer Comment

Really

AUTHOR: SocratesAL - (U.S.A.)

You can not spell, therefore you can not read. I seriously doubt you can tell the difference between a $10 and a $20. Go back to school and learn what you should have learned the first time through. Checking a bank statement to determine how much you paid in CASH ???? Just how stupid is THAT ??????
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#18 Consumer Comment

Sorry..

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

You may or may not be racist, but your comment was.

"So locals will only know what gas station I am talking about."
- You said there were 2 other Gas Stations at this intersection, and they were located on the Southwest corner. Unless there was more than one on that same corner that was a BP, giving the Company and address would be enough for the locals(and anybody else) to know which Gas Station it was. Also, I don't know about other people, but I don't know the race or even who is the owner of any gas station I patronize. Which is another reason that comment was not needed.

"I bought the part a mureys. They recommended that gas station. I then said no and they asked why. I told them this story. Then they told me about 20 customers that came in their store saying the same exact thing."
- I would think you should write a RipOff Report on Mureys(or is it Morays). After all if they recomended this station even though they said 20 other people had the same thing happen, how can you trust this store? I re-read the OP and your update a couple of times. If you use people's race in describing them, where was the description of the people at Mureys?
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#19 Consumer Comment

Sorry..

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

You may or may not be racist, but your comment was.

"So locals will only know what gas station I am talking about."
- You said there were 2 other Gas Stations at this intersection, and they were located on the Southwest corner. Unless there was more than one on that same corner that was a BP, giving the Company and address would be enough for the locals(and anybody else) to know which Gas Station it was. Also, I don't know about other people, but I don't know the race or even who is the owner of any gas station I patronize. Which is another reason that comment was not needed.

"I bought the part a mureys. They recommended that gas station. I then said no and they asked why. I told them this story. Then they told me about 20 customers that came in their store saying the same exact thing."
- I would think you should write a RipOff Report on Mureys(or is it Morays). After all if they recomended this station even though they said 20 other people had the same thing happen, how can you trust this store? I re-read the OP and your update a couple of times. If you use people's race in describing them, where was the description of the people at Mureys?
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#20 Consumer Comment

Sorry..

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

You may or may not be racist, but your comment was.

"So locals will only know what gas station I am talking about."
- You said there were 2 other Gas Stations at this intersection, and they were located on the Southwest corner. Unless there was more than one on that same corner that was a BP, giving the Company and address would be enough for the locals(and anybody else) to know which Gas Station it was. Also, I don't know about other people, but I don't know the race or even who is the owner of any gas station I patronize. Which is another reason that comment was not needed.

"I bought the part a mureys. They recommended that gas station. I then said no and they asked why. I told them this story. Then they told me about 20 customers that came in their store saying the same exact thing."
- I would think you should write a RipOff Report on Mureys(or is it Morays). After all if they recomended this station even though they said 20 other people had the same thing happen, how can you trust this store? I re-read the OP and your update a couple of times. If you use people's race in describing them, where was the description of the people at Mureys?
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#21 Consumer Comment

What should have happened..

AUTHOR: Inspector - (U.S.A.)

The clerk/owner should have taken your phone number and at the end of the day whenever he closes out the register, it would come up with an overage. Then he could call you for a refund. I am assuming that he takes in a lot of 20's so he could not tell. The proper procedure is to lay the money aside until the transaction is complete.

Next time give a city when you are warning others to stay away from an establishment.

I spent my adult life fighting the war on terrorisim dating back to the red army faction in Germany. I think the proper term here is profiling, not racisim. And even though it may effect the delicate senses of some here, they (Arabs) do wear the face of my enemy. I understand that a lot of them came here to escape the persecution of their ruthless leaders and I am not saying they are all bad, I just watch them a bit closer. Since the attack on the WTC has directly affected me, I am not ready to forgive yet. Since I still serve in the war on terror I remain vigilant. But, you are correct that it has nothing to do with a buisness transaction, just don't be so quick to label people racists. The so-called racist may save your life some day. 911 changed the world, don't forget that. As I type this, I am looking at an American flag imprinted with the thousands of names of the souls that perished.
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#22 Author of original report

no it's not racism it's description for the locals...

AUTHOR: Bizman32 - (U.S.A.)

No, you are just assuming something that I never said. I didn't say arabs are scammers or anything in that nature. I just said that the store owner is arab. What do you tell a cop if someone stole something? do you say it's that guy... or its a human? Or it's a guy that has hair.

I want the locals to know that if at some time or point this gas station goes under new ownership. They will know about it. So they don't get scared by buying services from the owner.

I never used the word arab in a racism way. I never intended to say anything in that nature. I have arab friends. I talked to them. They gave tips. They think he is not paying full taxes. He is collecting half of cash profits. So half of what he got in cash he will only report half of it to the IRS the rest he pockets and pays no tax on it. He can only do this for cash on hand.

I looked at the bank statements. I keep a close eye on what I spend. I am a college student. I write down everything I buy and paid for. I put it in the computer. I referred to the bank statement to verify how much money I made. I rechecked on my figures. This was just to make sure I didn't make any mistake. I still came up with a 10 bucks difference. Meaning I did pay them 10 bucks. The guy never gives receipts. The locals know him by description. I am not the only one that had this done by this same store owner. Many others in the local area has the same stuff happened to them.

To sum this up. I gave them a 20 and they gave me 10 bucks worth of gas. I am in college majoring in accounting. So I already have what I make and what I spend table in excel. I keep a record because I have a tight budget on managing money. Cause I have to pay for classes and other stuff. I did a recheck on what I did by looking at the bank statements. This means that I
re- engineer so to speak on how much I should have if I spent that much money. If I spent that much money on those items then I should be able to come add them back reversly to get what I got paid for.

Now how can you say that oh ya I must of just gave him 10 bucks and forgot that I just gave him a 10 and not a 20.

If you think that then why is their about 20 others in that same area that had the same experience I had. I am the first to put this on this website.

I talk to the people that work at morays auto parts shop. That is located north of that gas station well north east sort to speak.

Over here... we locally talk about description of the store owner if your not close to them.

So what I was saying was that the store owner is arab. This is important for local people. They will know which gas station it is. Because he is the only one in that area that is arab. They have 2 other gas station in that area that are not arabs but Iraqis.

This is not racism. I am not saying that arabs love to rob people or rip people off. I am describing what the owner looks like. They are different looking then Iraqs. Some may not know the difference. So I wasn't being racist. You merly just implied I did.

If you re-read what I said ... I just said the store owner is arab. Is that so offensive? I mean if I were to say that the store owner is American? Does this automatically mean that I am saying oh all americans cheat others or like to rob people? No.

When you describe to the police on who stole your money. You give them the skin color, the size, height, looks what he is wearing, locations last scene etc.

That dosen't mean your racism.

The thing is I don't know the store owners name nor am a buddy of his. I won't know his name. This is why I said he is a arab. Just for the locals to know what gas station this was. Since their is 2 other gas stations in that same intersection. their is one arab and then their is 2 iraqis in that interception.

So locals will only know what gas station I am talking about. Now the guy could closed or sold the business to someone else. I am not sure. I personally think he is still running that same gas station.

I know that I gave them 20 bucks in cash. I had to pay first to put gas in. I was stopped at 10 bucks. I went in and told them about it. I asked for the store owner and the person I was talking to said he was which was an arab. I then told him I gave you a 20 and he denied it. He said that I gave him a 10. I didn't waste much time on talking with him. So I went home and called BP. They told me he is no longer associated with BP. He by law is not allowed to have the BP logo stuff used on his business or store . So BP couldn't do anything. I then went to the local police and they lol and said what do I want them to do about it.

So I then let it be. I learned at murreys auto part shop that their is other victims that told them about that same store owner. He will stop the pump at half to what you put in. So if you gave a 40 he will give you 20 bucks worth of gas and pocket 20 bucks.


So I didn't make any mistake. Even if you think I gave him a 10. Then why is their 20 people that had the same thing happened to them. They stopped going to that gas station.

So the arab reference was just a description on who is the store owner of that gas station. Since I don't know his name. This is what I could say instead of just saying it's him ... and point and you would say who? what? is it that guy or the guy in the hat... etc..

I was just trying to point out the store owner in a descriptive way. The only way I can think about it is saying he is an arab. The way he talks and other stuff. I can't explain in detail. It's hard to explain.

I am not saying arabs steal from people. I am just saying that if you lived in this area you would know who is iraqi and who is arab. You can tell the difference. Most people not from hear will think iraqis are arab.

So to make it clear. I was just using arab as a description not making every arab or pointing out taht every single arab on earth has a gas station and loves to steal your money. No... I am just using it to describe the store owner other then saying it's a guy or a person.


It took me a while to reply to this because the rip off report was down for the weekend I seen these replies.


So to sum it up. I gave him a 20 and he gave me 10 bucks worth of gas. He stopped the pump on me. Now I can't say he knowingly done this on purpose. It could be that he thought it was a 10. The only thing that stands out that he knows what he is doing. Is that their is other people having the same thing happening to them. 20 to be exact. This is from the employees at murayys auto part store. The reason was they recommeded me to take my car to that gas station to repair my car. I had to change the gas tank censor. The fuel gage didn't work properly

I bought the part a mureys. They recommended that gas station. I then said no and they asked why. I told them this story. Then they told me about 20 customers that came in their store saying the same exact thing. That gas station also had a repair garage. it was not just a gas station. It also had a repair ship at the back of it.

Hope this clarifies it.
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#23 Consumer Comment

You had me until....

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

"..The owner of that gas station is an arab..."
- Please explain what if anything this has to do with the rest of your report.

Also, if you paid cash how did you verify from your bank statements that you gave him $20 in CASH.
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#24 Consumer Comment

The first paragraph says it all.

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

The comment "you better remember what you gave them" pretty much sums it up. It is obvious you could not remember what you paid the attendant. The thing about checking your statement backs this notion up. If you are positive you gave them a $20 why would you check a bank statement? What would a bank statement have to do with cash any how? maybe, just maybe you did give them a $10?
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#25 Consumer Comment

Racist much?

AUTHOR: Ashley - (U.S.A.)

I was sympathetic to you until the "oh yeah the owner is an arab" comment.

How is that important? Are you implying that arabs are crooks that will rip you off?

You also said you paid cash for the gas. How would you have any idea what you gave them based off your bank statement? Do you keep reciepts and track every dime you spend?

Seems off to me.

I believed you until the arab comment, now I just think you are a racist making up stories about a gas station.
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