• Report: #313951

Complaint Review: BSM/GRANT SEARCH - BSM/SBA EXPRESS - NETWORKAGENDA.COM

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  • Submitted: Sun, March 02, 2008
  • Updated: Wed, March 05, 2008

  • Reported By:Lake Villa Illinois
BSM/GRANT SEARCH - BSM/SBA EXPRESS - NETWORKAGENDA.COM
GRANTSEARCH.COM & NETWORKAGENDA.COM Nationwide U.S.A.

BSM/GRANT SEARCH - BSM/SBA EXPRESS - NETWORKAGENDA.COM NO FREE CD CANCELED WITH TWO WEEKS. NOW I GET CHARGES. WENT ON LINE IT SHOWS I'M NOT A MEMBER Las Vegas Nevada *EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account!

*UPDATE Employee: Resolution Offer

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This company offers a free cd. It says that you should receive the cd in ten days. I never got the cd so within two weeks I called and e-mailed them to cancel any and all further actions or offers. My credit card bill came in and there were three charges coming from this company under three different names totaling $57.85. I went on line and tried to connect to to them and it shows that I have no password or user name and that I am not a part of anything they had to offer but they charged me. I also tried to call the phone numbers on the bill and they only work during the week now.

Patrick
Lake Villa, Illinois
U.S.A.

EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!

HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:

Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.

According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.

If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.

Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!

DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!

Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.

And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.

Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.

If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.

CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD

If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.

Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.

And good luck Let us know how you do!

ED Magedson Founder, Rip-off Report.com & Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com
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This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 03/02/2008 08:26 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/BSMGRANT-SEARCH-BSMSBA-EXPRESS-NETWORKAGENDACOM/nationwide/BSMGRANT-SEARCH-BSMSBA-EXPRESS-NETWORKAGENDACOM-NO-FREE-CD-CANCELED-WITH-TWO-WEEKS-313951. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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AUTHOR: Ryan - (U.S.A.)

First of all let me offer my sincerest apologies to Patrick for any misunderstandings that may have occurred when he placed his order for the CD. The Grant Master educational CD is a grant based program that is designed to help customers Locate Grants, Find Grant Applications, Write Grant Proposals, and assist them with anything else that may be needed in the process of Obtaining Grant Funding. The CD offers the ability to search for grants by keyword(s), in up to 5 simultaneous categories. This program is supplemented by a member's site, this site offers access to live chat support for assistance with any part of the application and proposal process or questions pertaining to the CD or the member's site. You are also provided access to one of the largest grant data bases you can find anywhere. Here you can find both government and private foundation grantors. There is also information from Dr. John Porter who is a licensed and certified grant writer. The information that is offered through our members website is more extensive than what other companies sell in coaching programs that cost thousands of dollars. So we feel that we are offering our clients the best value in the industry. There are no commitments with the free product. However, there is a bonus free trial period to membership websites that accompanies the free CD and we do our best to disclose this as it is stated 4 times throughout the ordering process - on the sales page, the order page, the confirmation page and in the confirmation/thank you email, it is then also explained in the 1st paragraph of the Terms and Conditions of the offer. We offer the trial periods to give our clients a chance to use the service and see the value of them for themselves before they are billed for them. The trial periods are free for 7-30 days from the order date depending on which bonuses apply. We do not charge customers that call customer service and cancel during the trial period. It is not our desire to bill clients who do not want the membership after the free trial offer ends.

When you order our product you must select "Ship My FREE Kit!". On the same page as that button is the following statement in 10 pt font:

Terms and Disclosures. By clicking "Submit" I am ordering the Grant Master CD and trial membership for one dollar and ninety-seven cents, after the 7-day trial I will be charged thirty-nine dollars and ninety-five cents a month thereafter if I do not cancel. I also agree to the 14 day and 21 day bonus trials to Express Business Funding and Network Agenda for seven dollars and ninety-five cents a month and nine dollar and ninety-five cents a month thereafter, should I choose not to cancel. I have read and agree to the PRIVACY POLICY (last updated: 02/12/2007) & Terms and Conditions. Charges will appear on credit/debit statements as "GrantSearchAsst".To cancel call 1-866-396-5694, M - F, 9am - 9pm EST.

Patrick, I was able to locate your account and have verified that you did reach customer service and your account was handled per your requests.

If you are another customer that is reading this and you need to reach customer service for any reason the number is listed above. If you've tried customer service and feel that we have failed you in some way or you feel you weren't treated fairly please call me directly at 435-773-1795 or email me at ryanr@wskc.org and I will be happy to address your concerns ASAP.

Sincerely,

Ryan R.
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