- Report: #142513
Complaint Review: Berman Investment Group, Bruce A. Berman
| Berman Investment Group, Bruce A. Berman 1301 Dove Street, Suite 870
Newport Beach, California U.S.A. |
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Berman Investment Group, Bruce A. Berman, Ripoff Fraudulent Advertising Berman sends unsolicited product and bills credit card $99.90 Newport Beach California
*Consumer Comment: 100 per cent Customer Satisfaction? Return the money to the Bank after Stealing it.
*Consumer Comment: A scam for sure
*Consumer Comment: A scam for sure
*Consumer Comment: A scam for sure
*Consumer Comment: A scam for sure
*Consumer Comment: Excellent advice Williesha
*Consumer Suggestion: If you don't know what the business is...
*Consumer Suggestion: If you don't know what the business is...
*Consumer Suggestion: If you don't know what the business is...
*Consumer Suggestion: If you don't know what the business is...
*Consumer Comment: They CAN Know When Your Package Arrives
*Consumer Comment: Shipping date ordered the product but missed the 30 day window
*Consumer Suggestion: Bruce A. Berman Scam - Scam I tell you Scam.
*Consumer Suggestion: I orderd it to My suggestion is to put in the demo CD before you decide.
*Consumer Suggestion: I orderd it to My suggestion is to put in the demo CD before you decide.
*Consumer Suggestion: I orderd it to My suggestion is to put in the demo CD before you decide.
*Consumer Suggestion: I orderd it to My suggestion is to put in the demo CD before you decide.
*Consumer Comment: Defending the indefensible
*Consumer Comment: Defending the indefensible
*Consumer Comment: Defending the indefensible
*Consumer Comment: Defending the indefensible
*Consumer Comment: IT IS A SCAM.
*UPDATE Employee: The Berman Investment Group has a 100% return policy and we will accept any book or CD's in saleable condition for a full credit.
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I saw the TV commercial which offered a free book and CD. The commercial directs one to a web address for ordering.
After gathering ones personal information, an order form appears listing the Product as "Free Book and CD Offer. Includes the book "I Got Here. You Can Too!" and our "Money Making CD". The order form lists the Item Description as "Free Book and CD Package" at $0.00 Cost. A shipping charge of $3.95 also appears on the order form. There was no previous mention of the shipping charge on the website.
But not to worry, because immediately below the order form is their worry free guarantee. They will refund your shipping and handling fee if not completely satisfied. Next comes the credit card information request.
After completing the credit card info fields, the final step is to click the enter button which "appears" to be at the end of the page. End of transaction.
My free book and CD promptly arrived within a few days of ordering; however, a set of four CD roms entitled "Berman Differential" were also included in the package.
A fancy advertising-hype brochure was also included informing me that I received the "Book" and "Making Money CD" free for considering the 4-CD Berman Differential Program for which I would be billed $99.90 at the end of my 30 day consideration period if I did not call and schedule a return. This was the first I had ever seen or heard of this "Berman Differential Program".
I went back to the website and entered some gobblety gook info into the personal info section to get to the order form. No mention of or reference to the 4-CD Berman Differential Program anywhere!!!or was there?
Remember that enter button I previously mentioned that "appears" to be at the end of the page? Well, it turns out that if you don't click the enter button and scroll down a bit further, a rather lengthy paragraph containing ambiguous information written in ultra fine print appears. It mentions the infamous Berman Differential Program and the necessity to call and "cancel the order" and receive a return authorization number within 30 days or $99.90 will be billed to your credit card. Nowhere on the website or in the ultra fine print does it say that the 4-CD Berman Differential Program will be included with the free order, and that it must be returned at your expense to avoid the $99.90 credit card charge.
This is the most bold and blatant scam that I have ever seen being waved in front of our noses. The old days of non-referenced, ambiguous, fine print on the back of the contract have ended. The court now considers intent. The intent of Berman is rather obvious. But wait! Here's the rest of the story!
Needless to say, I was not about to do business with an intentionally misrepresenting company. I called the return phone number. They had a specific option for return authorizations. I was the number one caller in que...and still on hold for approximately twenty minutes. A nice young lady answered, took my name, telephone number, and order number. She then proceeded to inform me that due to the backlog of calls, she would have to have someone return my call to give me a return authorization. After voicing my complaints, she informed me that she was only an answering service and assured me that someone would return my call.
Twenty-four hours later after no return call (I not only have an answering machine but was also accessible to my phone during the entire time.) I called again. This time I was number two in que and still on hold for about twenty minutes. The scenario repeated itself.
One week later, still after no return call, I decided to take it up with my credit card company. After describing the situation, they isuued an immediate credit for the $3.95 S&H. The amount was not large enough for an investigation, and they could do nothing to prevent the pending $99.90 charge until it was actually posted.
I once again called The Berman Investment Group. This time to my surprise after once again being the number one caller in que and on hold for twenty minutes, someone that actually worked for Berman in Newport, CA answered and issued my return authorization. I voiced my complaints about the obvious scam, and he proceeded to tell me that the program was clearly defined in several places on the website and then began reading that ultra fine print, nonspecific, hidden paragraph.
What next? The return authorization number he gave me on the phone did not match the return authorization number on the email he sent which was to be included with the returned unopened, insured, 4-CD Berman Differential Program shipped in a crush proof package within four or five days of receiving the return authorizaton. I suppose that if you inadvertently opened the CD packet not knowing what they were since you didn't order them that they will charge you. Mine remained unopened as did and will the free book and CD. I included both return authorization numbers with my name address and original order number.
It will be interesting to see if my credit card still gets charged. Berman is obviously doing his best to scam people out of $99.90. I hope the proper authorities will be made aware of this blatant fraud and take action against The Berman Investment Group.
I will post again if my credit card is still charged.
Ken
Tucson, Arizona
U.S.A.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/12/2005 03:03 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Berman-Investment-Group-Bruce-A-Berman/Newport-Beach-California-92660/Berman-Investment-Group-Bruce-A-Berman-Ripoff-Fraudulent-Advertising-Berman-sends-unsol-142513. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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Search Tips#1 Consumer Comment
100 per cent Customer Satisfaction? Return the money to the Bank after Stealing it.
AUTHOR: Rk - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 05, 2006
#6 Consumer Comment
Excellent advice Williesha
AUTHOR: Timothy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 05, 2006
Sometimes the best advice is the simplest advice.
If everybody thought the way you do, the quantity of successful scams would plummet.
Vagueness is the hallmark of "opportunity" scams. If you can't tell what the product/program is from the advertisement, steer clear!
#7 Consumer Suggestion
If you don't know what the business is...
AUTHOR: Williesha - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 30, 2006
#8 Consumer Suggestion
If you don't know what the business is...
AUTHOR: Williesha - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 30, 2006
#9 Consumer Suggestion
If you don't know what the business is...
AUTHOR: Williesha - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 30, 2006
#10 Consumer Suggestion
If you don't know what the business is...
AUTHOR: Williesha - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 30, 2006
#11 Consumer Comment
They CAN Know When Your Package Arrives
AUTHOR: Timothy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 19, 2005
Well, if they cared to know, they could. They could probably even figure it out 30 days after the fact.
All of the non-USPS shipping companies track packages and can tell you exactly when a product that you ship out reaches its destination.
The post office has standard delivery time-frames depending on distance. There would be no more than a three day window wherein you would receive your product. And, if they cared to, they could get a delivery confirmation that would tell them when it arrived.
To me this is just another element of deception. Give people 30 days to try your product, but don't tell them that it's actually 26 days because you start the clock from the time of order.
#12 Consumer Comment
Shipping date ordered the product but missed the 30 day window
AUTHOR: Tony - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 19, 2005
A rep offered to allow me to keep the 4 CDs for approximately 50% off but I still said no. I was upset about the 30 day shipping peroid. I told the rep I thought the 30 days started from the day I received the product.
The reps response was "how are we supposed to know the day and time you receive the CDs?" I was still not happy but she did have a point. Unless I call the Berman Investment Group and tell them I got the stuff today there is no real effective way of them knowing the exact date I got the CDs.
I still returned the CDs and got a full refund back into my account around 2-3 days later.
#13 Consumer Suggestion
Bruce A. Berman Scam - Scam I tell you Scam.
AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, June 16, 2005
Scam I tell you Scam.
#14 Consumer Suggestion
I orderd it to My suggestion is to put in the demo CD before you decide.
AUTHOR: Bruce - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 15, 2005
#15 Consumer Suggestion
I orderd it to My suggestion is to put in the demo CD before you decide.
AUTHOR: Bruce - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 15, 2005
#16 Consumer Suggestion
I orderd it to My suggestion is to put in the demo CD before you decide.
AUTHOR: Bruce - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 15, 2005
#17 Consumer Suggestion
I orderd it to My suggestion is to put in the demo CD before you decide.
AUTHOR: Bruce - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 15, 2005
#18 Consumer Comment
Defending the indefensible
AUTHOR: Timothy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 15, 2005
And then, once you realize what you've actually ordered, you follow the policy which is "clearly indicated in several places," (although none of us are so naive as to believe that consumer avoidance of these terms isn't the intent) only to be stifled at every turn?
Sounds like a scam to me.
#19 Consumer Comment
Defending the indefensible
AUTHOR: Timothy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 15, 2005
And then, once you realize what you've actually ordered, you follow the policy which is "clearly indicated in several places," (although none of us are so naive as to believe that consumer avoidance of these terms isn't the intent) only to be stifled at every turn?
Sounds like a scam to me.
#20 Consumer Comment
Defending the indefensible
AUTHOR: Timothy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 15, 2005
And then, once you realize what you've actually ordered, you follow the policy which is "clearly indicated in several places," (although none of us are so naive as to believe that consumer avoidance of these terms isn't the intent) only to be stifled at every turn?
Sounds like a scam to me.
#21 Consumer Comment
Defending the indefensible
AUTHOR: Timothy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 15, 2005
And then, once you realize what you've actually ordered, you follow the policy which is "clearly indicated in several places," (although none of us are so naive as to believe that consumer avoidance of these terms isn't the intent) only to be stifled at every turn?
Sounds like a scam to me.
#23 UPDATE Employee
The Berman Investment Group has a 100% return policy and we will accept any book or CD's in saleable condition for a full credit.
AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 23, 2005

