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Complaint Review: Black Box Firm

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  • Submitted: Sat, February 25, 2012
  • Updated: Wed, July 18, 2012

  • Reported By: poppy — SLC Utah United States of America
Black Box Firm
6135 S. Stratler STE A Murray, UT 84107 Murray, Utah United States of America

Black Box Firm Over charge, Under deliver scam Murray, Utah

*UPDATE Employee: Aaron and Ryan ARE Crooks.

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Aaron Christner (who also goes by Vince Scarpuzzi) and his buddy Ryan Johnson (who also has an alias- Ari Schwimmer) are still up to their old tricks of scamming the unsuspecting. They have two new company names.... Black Box Firm (866-476-8473) and

If you want to be ripped off, join up with Black Box Firm- you over pay by factors of 100 for a simple website. They will charge you over $5000 just to make a simple wordpress website- takes them all of 10 minutes to do. They host it on a server with 10000 other sites, and charge 20/month to host it. Then they really start upping the charges. You want to keep up with SEO- 2000 here and 5000 there. At the end of the day, all you have is a simple wordpress site a chimp could make, and an empty bank account.

If you just want to pay a lot of information you can get for free on Google, join For this scam, Aaron/Vinnie and Ryan/Ari will take you money to give you access to their incredible "library" of tips to make thousands on the Internets. The only problem is, these tips are worthless. Most are already available for free on the Google. Others are just outdated or outmoded. Most are all just common sense. None are worth the entry fee, much less the up charges you will get spiked with later on down the road. Once these two scammers get their teeth in you, they keep hitting you up for more.

In both cases, it is the same old Ryan and Aaron, ripping people off with their scams. Again.) Try liking up some of their old business names like Cyber Innovations, Mad Cow Productions, Level11 Mentoring, and most recently, Millennium Marketing Group. They have been closed down by the state of Utah for previous rip offs... so they just change their name and do it all again. Here is a good article on some of their past scams: and here:

Leopards like this do not change their spots easily.... and these particular leopards are the biggest scammers of all.

Also, this company The Black Box Firm is real good at not paying their bills. They do not pay their employees, they do not pay their vendors, they do not even pay their phone company (which is why their phone members changes a month or so ago). They rip off EVERYONE around them- their clients AND the people they work with. They are super scammers!

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#1 UPDATE Employee

Aaron and Ryan ARE Crooks.

AUTHOR: Aaron Is A Crook - (United States of America)

I (unfortunately!) have worked for Aaron and Ryan. I know first hand how the above is the rule, not the exception. Just wanted to chime in and agree with the above. The Black Box Firm is a scam ripping off clients left and right. Their phone number is 877-908-0178 now- they change it almost as much as they change their names (or open anew rip-off business!)

Looks like they have pissed off a lot of people- someone has even started a website for this now! Check out
to learn a lot more about how <a href="">Aaron Christner and Ryan Scott Jensen rip people off!</a>
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