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Complaint Review: Blue World Pools
Blue World Poolsblueworldpools.com Reno , Nevada United States of America
Blue World Pools Scam Review | Complaints INVESTIGATION: Blue World Pools commitment to 100% customer satisfaction, receives a positive report in customer support and product quality assurance. Feel safe confident & secure when doing business with Blue World Pools. Carson City, Nevada
*UPDATE.. Blue World Pools demonstrate their commitment to total customer satisfaction through the Rip-off Report Corporate Advocacy Program, the program that benefits the consumer & assures them of complete satisfaction & confidence. Blue World Pools considered to be industry experts at turn-key above ground swimming pool sales, finance, installation and service.
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SPECIAL UPDATE: April 14 2011: Blue World Pools remains committed to increased customer satisfaction and has improved their business practices over the years to better serve their customers. Blue World Pools is truly dedicated to making sure their customers are satisfied and that any complaints which do arise are addressed promptly and fairly.
To date, Blue World Pools has made good faith efforts to resolve all complaints reported on Rip-off Report. Based on our experience, the member business has proven to be among the top members of the Rip-off Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation and Customer Satisfaction Program as a Verified Safe Business.
Over time and since becoming a member, Blue World Pools has remained actively engaged and improving the way they address customer service complaints. As an active and current member of the Rip-off Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation and Customer Satisfaction Program we are happy to report that now more than ever Blue World Pools remains committed to improving customer satisfaction.
Remember, no company or individual can ever satisfy 100% of the people 100% of the time. There are no products or services that will always be perfect for everyone and even the best companies will receive complaints from time to time. However, by participating in the Corporate Advocacy Program, the member business has made a commitment to working with its customers to resolve complaints quickly and fairly whenever possible.
Please keep in mind that as a consumer you have some responsibilities as well. Success has many definitions that based on your past experiences, current situation and your perceived expectations. Success with any product or service is always based on the proper application and understanding. The fastest car will not run if you never turn the engine on. Look at how you used the product or service that was provided in relation with the instructions that you received. The Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation and Customer Satisfaction Program will help you get your voice heard but please be prepared with documentation and fair representation of your concern, also have an idea of how the company can fix your concern. Can they offer additional services, extend warranties, offer a fair refund or just get you talking with someone that can help. ..let them know and let us know!
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EDitor's UPDATE: Positive Rating and Recognition has been given to Blue World Pools for its Commitment to Excellence in customer service.
After an investigation by Rip-off Report, we found that Blue World Pools is actively resolving complaints and addresses contractor issues. This EDitor has reviewed the Reports regarding Blue World Pools and has found a real and dedicated effort by Blue World Pools' management team to effectively resolve past, present, and future complaints. Many of which were just misunderstandings and have now been resolved. Rip-off Report found that the number of Reports is so very small in comparison to its total number of customers. We did find some reports that may have been posted by a competitor. Some complaints came from people who did not even purchase a pool from Blue World Pools. Blue World Pools has worked with Rip-off Report to make the changes necessary to give consumers additional confidence and trust to purchase Blue World Pools' swimming pool packages. The truth is, no matter how hard any company may try, including Blue World Pools, there are bound to be a certain number of complaints. No company or individual can ever satisfy everyone, All companies will get complaints How those companies handle those complaints is what separates good businesses from the bad ones.
Rip-off Report Investigation found that Blue World Pools is fully committed to resolving all complaints quickly and doing everything possible to satisfy its customers, whatever it takes. . Blue World Pools also takes appropriate action against any of its contractors who are found to have broken Blue World Pools policies and procedures. We believe that the number of complaints against this company, whether through the Internet or other channels, is very small when put into context of its size.
More importantly, Blue World Pools executives recognizes that complaints posted on Rip-off Report (true or not) are issues that need to be addressed and if handled correctly can be valuable learning opportunities. With the feedback generated by Rip-off Report's Investigation Blue World Pools has made many changes allowing their customers a smooth approach to a complete satisfying experience when purchasing a fun and enjoyable pool. Blue World Pools has great purchasing power because they buy in such a large volume, passing on those savings to their clients the best selection at an affordable price.. ..
Most businesses would never commit themselves like Blue World Pools has to the Rip-Off Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program. They are a unique shining example of commitment to customer service/satisfaction in their industry.
Read more about Blue World Pools Commitment to Excellence and Total Consumer Satisfaction and why consumers should feel safe, confident and secure when doing business with a member of Rip-off Report's Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program. ..yes, a long name for a program that does a lot for both consumers and businesses alike.
Read about Rip-off Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program,..A program that benefits the consumer, assures them of complete satisfaction and confidence when doing business with a member business. this program works.
===================== NOW TO THE ORIGINAL REPORT THAT WAS FILED
===================== Blue World Pools Pre Purchase WILLFUL disregard and violation of the law Atlanta Georgia
I didn't get sucked into signing a contract with BWP. As soon as I heard the price from the salesman, I called our appointment to a close. I could install an inground pool for that kind of money ($16,000 !!)
My complaint against them regards them running my credit when I expressly told them not to. I even went as far as to tell them if a credit check was required not to set an appt for me. They told me they didn't have to run a report.
I'm right on top of my credit reports since suffering from identity theft within the last 2 years. I pull my report up and find an inquiry from Blue World Pools. I call the company and complain.
The repsonse from their employee (Charles Miller) was totally rude and laughable. First he told me that I authorized it. I adamantly denied that and asked him if I authorized it then he ought to be able to give me the last 4 of my social. He couldn't. He told me they probably ran a credit check by my birthdate and name.
Then he told me that it was a soft inquiry that doesn't show up to my creditors. I told him I had the report right in front of me and it DID show to my creditors. Then he told me they had a right to run my credit under a loophole in the Patriot Act !! I outright told him he was a liar and the the Patriot Act was not put in place so that shady businesses could do illegal credit checks.
Then he said (I guess he thought he was dazzling me with BS) that under FCRA Article 72 (which doesn't exist) they were entitled to run my report. When I disputed that comment, he told me to take it up with Experian. I told him I did and they said to dispute it with the creditor. His response was that there wasn't anything I could do about it and he wasn't going to argue with me. I told him he could tell it to the BBB & FTC because I wasn't going to argue with him either and hung up.
This company has openly admitted that they run credit reports before sending out their salesman to verify that the consumer is the homeowner as standard operating procedure. This is a violation of the FCRA. They are not allowed to do this under the law.
I have filed my own compalints (BBB and FTC) against them for a willful violation of the FCRA (Fair Credit Reporting Act) Section 604 (Permissible Purpose for consumer reports). I'm also debating whether or not to sue them for violating my rights under the FCRA. I can sue them in any US District court for up to $1000 + court/legal fees for each violation.
They responded to my complaint with the BBB, quoted (convoluted) sections of the FCRA and stated they were "100% in the "right"". I did not accept their response and rebutted.
I'm sure there are a whole slew of people across the U.S. had BWP come out and didn't purchase pools. These people probably don't even realize their rights have been violated. Talk about a class action lawsuit !!
ANYONE who has had them come out to your home and they ran a credit report on you and you did not purchase a pool from them; BWP violated your rights and you do have recourse Under the FCRA sections 616 and/or 617.. This is a direct willful violation of the FCRA Section 604 (a)(3)(F)(i) which states they can run a credit check on you if they have a legitimate business need and you initiate a business "Transaction".
The key word here is "Transaction". A business transaction is the exchange of goods, services or funds. There was no "transaction" between us, just an inquiry. They say their legitimate business purpose is to verify homeownership. This is illegal. I am writing all three Credit reporting agencies letting them know that his company willfully disregards the law under the FCRA.
If I was to believe their convoluted explaination of the FCRA, then whenever I walk into a store or have a salesman come to my home, it would be perfectly legal for them to run my credit because I MIGHT make a purchase from them and it MIGHT involve extending credit.
Futhermore, I specifically told them I did not want them to run a credit report and refused to supply my Social (they ran my birthdate and name). This puts them in violation of FCRA Section 604 (c)(1)(A) which states you cannot run a credit report unless authorized by the consumer for which there is recourse under Sections 616 and 617. To further back up my claims see the ftc staff opinion letters: .ftc.gov/os/statutes/fcrajump.shtm or ftc.gov/os/statutes/fcra/index.shtm scroll down the page to bottom third of page on left side of screen and look for Section 604(a)(3)(F) Legitimate business need, then read letters Coffey (02-11-98),Kaiser (07-16-98),Shibley (06-08-99).
According to the response I got thru the BBB, Sean Warren is going to try to have the inquiry removed from my Credit Report. This remains to be seen. I'll keep you posted.
PS I don't beleive many of the positive posts about the company either. How many people do you know refer to using their pool as a "Swim Session". The so called happy customers have to be crazy to think $10-16,000 for an above ground pool @ 21% interest is a good deal. PULEASE !!
As far as the people who signed contracts at $8-9,000 only to be told they had to add the Deluxe package($12-16,000) to get financing approved. You should have some type of recourse too. You signed a contract for a specified amount and they did a Creidt check BEFORE they came out to your home. If they changed the bottom line of the contract you signed, they are in breach not you.
Liz Summerfield, Florida
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