• Report: #312163

Complaint Review: Bluegreen Resorts

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  • Submitted: Tue, February 26, 2008
  • Updated: Thu, October 30, 2008

  • Reported By:hamilton Ohio
Bluegreen Resorts
bluegreenonline.com Boca Ratan, Florida U.S.A.

Bluegreen Resorts ripoff sales rep lies Boca Ratan Florida

*Consumer Comment: No comment on the LAWSUIT?? WHAT?? Did you say something??

*Consumer Comment: No comment on the LAWSUIT?? WHAT?? Did you say something??

*Consumer Comment: No comment on the LAWSUIT?? WHAT?? Did you say something??

*Consumer Comment: |Sticks and stones

*Consumer Comment: ***UPDATE** PA ATTY. GENERAL FILES SUIT AGAINST BLUEGREEN-HORRAY!! Help is here!!!

*Consumer Comment: Bluegreen IS A RIP-OFF PLAIN AND SIMPLE

*Consumer Comment: This is a vacation club

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When going to the bluegreen resort sales pitch the sales people do not tell the truth about the produc they are selling, that is the only way someone would buy into the system. They tell you that you can sell your points, in my case 11,000 for about $5,000 per year. They also tell you that they do this for you. They tell you people buy more points just to sell them to make money. All of this is not true. They nolonger sell points but you have to now go through another agency to sell the points and 11,000 points will not sell for $5,000 but maybe 1,500.
After reading all of the complaints against them it seems that this company is truely crooked. Don't waist your time or money on this scheme. Also you may want to stop shopping at BASS PRO since they are somehow affiliated with this company.

Chuck
hamilton, Ohio
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 02/26/2008 11:05 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Bluegreen-Resorts/Boca-Ratan-Florida/Bluegreen-Resorts-ripoff-sales-rep-lies-Boca-Ratan-Florida-312163. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

No comment on the LAWSUIT?? WHAT?? Did you say something??

AUTHOR: Robin Ann - (U.S.A.)

Instead of TRYING to belittle me ( it can't be done - never has- never will, it's just a waste of your time) why aren't you commenting on the above lawsuit?? WHY?? Do you think that you know more than the ATTORNEY GENERAL of the state PA? Do you? NO YOU DO NOT! That's why you work in a textile factory- OKAY? Well, let us all hear it? No retoric, no lies. What do you think of the lawsuit? Do you think that is was filed without just cause? Do you actually think that the ATTY. GENERAL did not investigate this matter to the fullest?

BTW: I would NEVER work for any timeshare company. My husband is an attorney. I don't have to work for a living. That means that I have all the time in the world to try and help people who were victimized by unscrupuolous scammers like Bluegreen. I'm just SO THANKFUL that the AG in my state is finally going to make BG pay for ALL of their wrongdoing- It validates almost to the letter what I've been saying for the past 2 mths. **STAY AWAY FROM BLUEGREEN**

Have a lovely day :D
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#2 Consumer Comment

No comment on the LAWSUIT?? WHAT?? Did you say something??

AUTHOR: Robin Ann - (U.S.A.)

Instead of TRYING to belittle me ( it can't be done - never has- never will, it's just a waste of your time) why aren't you commenting on the above lawsuit?? WHY?? Do you think that you know more than the ATTORNEY GENERAL of the state PA? Do you? NO YOU DO NOT! That's why you work in a textile factory- OKAY? Well, let us all hear it? No retoric, no lies. What do you think of the lawsuit? Do you think that is was filed without just cause? Do you actually think that the ATTY. GENERAL did not investigate this matter to the fullest?

BTW: I would NEVER work for any timeshare company. My husband is an attorney. I don't have to work for a living. That means that I have all the time in the world to try and help people who were victimized by unscrupuolous scammers like Bluegreen. I'm just SO THANKFUL that the AG in my state is finally going to make BG pay for ALL of their wrongdoing- It validates almost to the letter what I've been saying for the past 2 mths. **STAY AWAY FROM BLUEGREEN**

Have a lovely day :D
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#3 Consumer Comment

No comment on the LAWSUIT?? WHAT?? Did you say something??

AUTHOR: Robin Ann - (U.S.A.)

Instead of TRYING to belittle me ( it can't be done - never has- never will, it's just a waste of your time) why aren't you commenting on the above lawsuit?? WHY?? Do you think that you know more than the ATTORNEY GENERAL of the state PA? Do you? NO YOU DO NOT! That's why you work in a textile factory- OKAY? Well, let us all hear it? No retoric, no lies. What do you think of the lawsuit? Do you think that is was filed without just cause? Do you actually think that the ATTY. GENERAL did not investigate this matter to the fullest?

BTW: I would NEVER work for any timeshare company. My husband is an attorney. I don't have to work for a living. That means that I have all the time in the world to try and help people who were victimized by unscrupuolous scammers like Bluegreen. I'm just SO THANKFUL that the AG in my state is finally going to make BG pay for ALL of their wrongdoing- It validates almost to the letter what I've been saying for the past 2 mths. **STAY AWAY FROM BLUEGREEN**

Have a lovely day :D
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#4 Consumer Comment

|Sticks and stones

AUTHOR: Smithiekid1623 - (United Kingdom)

Good morning,

Stickes and stones may break my bone but names cant hurt me

I still stick by all I have said.

All you have to do is learn how to use the system even sombody as dumb as you surly should be able to understand that.

I wish i could type at 160 words and not make a mistake but then i am not the son of god lol

please remember there was only one perfect person on this earth and they fu**ing cruxified him.

maybe he could have given back the use in their legs and then they could have just got up and walked out.

or maybe given them their eyes back so they could read what they were being asked to sign.

I could go on and on but then you do not want these people to get help on how to use the system.

I do have to ask why you are so interested in this subject since you do not appear to be an owner and it could well be you who works for a competitor of Bluegreen and on every complaint site to to stir up trouble

You say i must have plenty of time well printers are like buses they all turn up at once and then once all 8 print machines (thats 8x 20 colour machines something you dont have in the states lol) are printing thats me finished untill the next design or colourway change ------ simple really just like you
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#5 Consumer Comment

***UPDATE** PA ATTY. GENERAL FILES SUIT AGAINST BLUEGREEN-HORRAY!! Help is here!!!

AUTHOR: Robin Ann - (U.S.A.)

Attorney General Corbett announces lawsuits against Florida timeshare & vacation companies accused of advertising, real estate, and telemarketing violations

HARRISBURG - Attorney General Tom Corbett today announced lawsuits today against four Florida-based companies accused of illegally marketing vacation packages, using "free" airline ticket offers and other worthless prizes to lure consumers into aggressive and deceptive timeshare presentations.

Corbett said consumer protection lawsuits were filed against Bluegreen Corporation, Bluegreen Resorts, Bluegreen Vacations Unlimited, Inc. and Great Vacations Destinations, Inc., all of Boca Raton, Florida. Bluegreen contacted consumers by phone and through kiosks at shopping malls, fairs, and festivals throughout Pennsylvania, and also operates full-time sales facilities in Hershey and King of Prussia.

"Virtually any consumer with a checkbook and a pulse allegedly qualified as a 'winner' in these promotions," Corbett said. "Unsuspecting consumers who believed they were contest winners were actually drawn into a high pressure bait-and-switch campaign designed to push timeshare vacation packages costing thousands of dollars."

Corbett said more than 5,700 Pennsylvania residents purchased Bluegreen timeshares, with many paying $20,000 to $40,000 or more for packages that violated Pennsylvania's Consumer Protection Law, the Real Estate Licensing and Registration Act, the Telemarketer Registration Act and other consumer regulations.

Phony Prizes
Corbett said that Bluegreen representatives allegedly called consumers who believed they were entering contests and other promotions promising cars, cash and vacations.

According to the lawsuit, consumers were told that they had not won the "grand prize," but had been selected to receive other items, like free airline tickets. Consumers were also promised free gasoline and meals when they collected their prize, if they attended a 90 minute timeshare presentation.

Corbett said the lawsuit alleges that consumers who were contacted by Bluegreen were not actually randomly selected prize winners. Instead, virtually everyone who entered the contests was contacted and falsely told that they were a prize winner.

In one case, Corbett said a consumer informed a Bluegreen representative that the person they were trying to reach did not live at that address. The consumer was told that it wasn't a problem - they would give her a prize too.

High Pressure Sales and False Advertising
Corbett said that in order to collect their "prizes," consumers were required to schedule an appointment with a Bluegreen sales representative. In some cases, consumers who believed they would be attending a 90 minute timeshare presentation were actually subjected to relentless marketing pitches that lasted five hours or more.

According to the lawsuit, numerous deceptive statements were made to consumers during these presentations in an effort to get them to sign contracts immediately, including phony claims that prices would increase the next day, misrepresentations about when and where consumers could travel if they made a purchase and false statements about certain fees being waived.

Corbett said that some consumers bought vacation programs because they were told they were entitled to a one-week stay in Hawaii, only to learn afterward that the program they purchased could not be used in Hawaii.

According to the lawsuit, consumers who sat through the timeshare presentations received "prizes" that were nothing like what they had been promised. The "four free airline tickets" were actually booklets that offered two airline tickets with each hotel room reserved, at high prices, in a limited number of cities. In some situations, consumers were required to commit to a 10 night stay at overpriced hotel rates before being able to select a local airport for their flight.

Corbett said "free" gasoline and meals that consumers were promised turned out to be coupons or certificates with lengthy terms and conditions. For instance, consumers who were promised $40 in free gas were required to submit written requests to obtain a series of gas coupons. The coupons required consumers to pay for their gas first and then mail a receipt for reimbursement, with each coupon limited to a $5 purchase, with no more than one purchase per month.

Illegal Contracts
Corbett's said contracts used by Bluegreen failed to properly inform consumers of their right to cancel their purchase. Pennsylvania law requires that consumers have five days to cancel any timeshare or campground purchase. Bluegreen is also accused of violating a state law that requires all consumer contracts to be written in easy-to-understand terms.

Do Not Call Violations
According to the lawsuit, Bluegreen made numerous calls to consumers who were on Pennsylvania's Do Not Call list, allegedly basing those calls on referrals from other customers. Additionally, the companies are accused of making repeated calls to consumers who clearly told them not to call again.

"Bluegreen took advantage of hardworking Pennsylvania residents eager to find an affordable getaway," Corbett said. "Using deceptive contests, relentless sales presentations and misleading contracts, consumers were pressured into paying thousands of dollars for vacation packages that don't meet their needs or their budgets."

Corbett said the lawsuits seek restitution for consumers who suffered financial losses because of these deceptive or illegal practices.

Additionally, Corbett says the lawsuit asks the court to void all illegal consumer contracts and give consumers the right to cancel any agreement that did not include the state-required notice of cancellation.

The lawsuit also seeks up to $1,000 in civil penalties for each violation of the Consumer Protection Law, or up to $3,000 for each violation involving a senior citizen.

The lawsuits were filed in Commonwealth Court, in Harrisburg, by Senior Deputy Attorney General David Sumner of the Attorney General's Bureau of Consumer Protection.

Corbett says the investigation began after consumers contacted his office to report these practices. He encouraged other consumers who have problems with Bluegreen to file a complaint by calling the Attorney General's Consumer Protection Hotline at 1-800-441-2555 or submit an online consumer complaint.

Hey Smithiekid- what have you got to say now?? Yeah, nothing. That's what I thought!! You are a clueless and pitiful little creature. Aren't YOU??
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#6 Consumer Comment

Bluegreen IS A RIP-OFF PLAIN AND SIMPLE

AUTHOR: Robin Ann - (U.S.A.)

Who is this Smithiekid1623? What kind of sad, boring life must you have? All you do is try to justify all of the bad reports on this website concerning Bluegreen. STOP IT!! Ok? All you are doing is making a BIG FOOL of yourself. How can you justify the fast-talking sharks who give these HIGH PRESSURE sales pitches? After everything I've read on these pages, I've come to the conclusion, as I'm sure others have, that you are somehow affiliated with these "crooks". What have you to gain? How much time do you spend in a day re-butting all of these consumer alerts? Be honest. All of these people who have been so deeply victimized by these con-artists is appauling, to say the least. Why do they pressure people into making such quick decisions?? Answer that one. Right here. Let's see it. Tell all of these people why they were decieved and lied to and then forced to make a split-second decision of this magnitude?? Well, let me tell them why. I will be honest in my answer, unlike you. You were practically strong-armed into this without being allowed to go home and think it over,why? Because the offer is no good tomorrow, all of the "fake bonuses" disappear. Why is that Smithiekid? Because they DO NOT WANT YOU TO GIVE IT ANY THOUGHT- WHATSOEVER- THAT IS WHY. If you did actually have a day or two to think it over you would realize that it is like throwing your money AWAY!! There is no defense for these creeps but you can keep on trying. Post your idiotic comments here for all to laugh at. Obviously you are one of the actual few who get to go where you want, when you want because you bought many points. What about the comment that you made to that single father who is trying to raise his son alone? I believe it was that "you are a hard-working man also" That is a bunch of B.S. and you know it to. I don't know of anyone who has the amount of time that you do in a day to post all of these comments and still hold any kind of gainful employment. This is the second comment I've posted. However, I can type 160 wpm-With no errors. So, you're the one wasting hours of your time just to make yourself look like the "FOOL" that you are. P.S. I'm still not convinced. You are an employee or you know/are related to someone in this outfit. So, STOP YOUR LYING RIGHT NOW. Enough is enough. These people need solutions not retoric and even more lies,you moron.
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#7 Consumer Comment

This is a vacation club

AUTHOR: Smithiekid1623 - (United Kingdom)

This is a vacation club not a money making scheme, what I dont understand is how you could have thought your 11000 points which you would have paid in the region of $2 per point ($22000) could ever yield a profit of 25% year after year.
If the company was yours how long would you be in business if you gave back 25% of your gross income and still pay staff maintained all 40 odd resorts and pay the shareholders.
I take it that when you say sell you mean rent your points each year.
Lets look what you can get for your 11000 points eg at the Fountains in Orlando you could get Mon to Friday who is going to pay $5000 for 5 nights timeshare.
Be honest with yourselve you bought to make money out of it and now you find you cant well I am sorry but all timeshares work the same they are not for making a fast buck but for taking holidays with the family.
We have 36000 points so on your reckoning that should yield around $16000 income per annum year after year, if that was the case then we would all be rich.
Take it for what it is a Vaction club and I can tell you with hand on my heart it is a good deal and we have had many good holidays out of it and have now broke even with it so all holidays now only cost maint. Fees and flight costs and I can say that 4 to 6 weeks (depending on when and where we go) for 4 to 6 people for the cost of $1600 is good value and dont forget on the resale market our investment is still worth inbetween $13k and $18k.
Some do rent out their "points" but to do that you have to make a reservation and then rent that what you are not allowed to do is rent out points.
The rents you can obtain for these reservation are not much more than the M/fees + a small amount for yourself
So as you can see it is not a ripp off it is just that you have not fully understood what you were getting yourself into
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