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Complaint Review: CC's Cajun Bullies and My Bulldogs
CC's Cajun Bullies and My BulldogsInternet United States of America
Buyers Bewere of CC's Cajun Bullies and My Bulldogs Carey Navarro Caye These people are crossing Real Leavitt Bulldogge to English Bulldogs and trying to call it pure bred Olde English Bulldogge these people are doing fraud and have fake paper work Real facts. Internet
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: fictitious complaint
If you Don't have OREBA, LBA, OEBKC Registry you don't have real Olde English Bulldogges this is fact. There is own one registry will teach you the truth about Olde English Bulldogges that is OREBAInc. they will always help you understand the different and making you see the truth. We are here to tell the truth for 2010 and more.
Remember this a Olde English Bulldogges shouldn't have "SCREWED" TAILS also it shouldn't have CUT TAILS also this is false in the breed Original Standard. Also it shouldn't look like Big Akc English Bulldog Cross watch out for these false in these breed. The Breed is a Guard Dogs, Weight Pulling dogs, Personal Protection Dogs So need all the Working it can get. Blue or Red Nose Dogs are not in Original Breed Set Standard. The Lying need to stop. They are not also Merle, Blue, Gray or Tri Color body. They don't have Red, or Blue Nose.
This is False. The Fraud need to stop. Real People know this.
The Dog was recreated because of Akc Modern-day English Bulldogs have so much health problems and Original Old Bulldogs was Mastiffs type of dog like American Bulldogs, Olde English Bulldogges and Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldogs these dogs are similar to the Old Bulldogs back from 1800's and 1900's.The foundation crosses consisted of English Bulldog, 1/6 Bull Mastiffs, 1/6 American Pit Bull Terriers, and 1/6 American Bulldogs. After many carefully planned crosses, the Olde English Bulldogge emerged and began to breed true. Stop American lying to buyers start breeding real Olde English Bulldogges.
Stop think Leavitt Bulldogges Cross back to a English Bulldogs or Male English Bulldogs with Female American Bulldogs Make you have the right to call them Olde English Bulldogge you really don't have. Stop Tagging paper work with IOEBA, OBBA, WBA, NBA, OBS, these people don't have the original set standard and that is fact. I am not hating but putting Real fact.
Here is the Original Set Standard of the Real Olde English Bulldogge real facts. The Lying and fraud need to stop.
This is the Original Set Standard that we stand by.
Standard - Olde English Bulldogge
The Olde English Bulldogge is a muscular, medium and large sized dog of great strength, stability and athleticism. He is well balanced and proportioned, with no feature exaggerated or standing out. He has the appearance of a dog capable of doing his original job, bull baiting. Remember that excessive height would have been detrimental for the old working Bulldog because he had to play low to avoid the bulls horns and fasten onto his nose. A heavy weight dog would have also been at a disadvantage because the bulls nose would have been more likely to rip, sending the dog flying.
The Olde English Bulldogge was developed in the early 1970's by David Leavitt, of Coatesville, PA. Mr. Leavitt used a line breeding scheme that was designed and developed by Ohio State University for breeding cattle. The goal was to recreate a specific breed of Bulldogge with the look, health and athleticism of the original bull baiting dogs, but without the extreme tenacity.
The foundation crosses consisted of English Bulldog, and the other half Bullmastiff, American Pit Bull Terrier, and American Bulldog. After many carefully planned crosses, the Olde English Bulldogge emerged and began to breed true.
The disposition of the Olde English Bulldogge is confident, courageous and alert. OEBs are very friendly and loving. They are extremely strong and occasionally display same sex dog aggression, so socialization and obedience training are important. It is best to channel high energy individuals to some type of work and exercise.
Fault: Shyness in a mature dog.
HEAD - The OEB head is prominent and dramatic. The circumference of the head is at least equal to the dogs height at the withers. The cheeks are large, well developed and display powerful jaw muscles. A slightly wrinkled forehead is acceptable.
SKULL - The skull is large but well proportioned to the dogs muscular body and prominent shoulders. There is a crease from the stop to the occiput.
Serious Faults: Narrow skull; domed forehead.
MUZZLE - The muzzle is square, wide and deep, with definite layback. Distance from the tip of the nose to the stop does not exceed one-third of the distance from the tip of the nose to the occiput. Height of the muzzle, from the bottom of the chin to the top of the muzzle, is equal to or greater than the length of the muzzle, thus producing the deep square muzzle. There is slight to moderate wrinkle on the muzzle. Flews are semi pendulous. The bite is undershot and horizontally straight. Underbite is or less. Lower jawbone is moderately curved from front to back.
Faults: A slightly longer or shorter muzzle; excessive wrinkle.
Disqualifications: Wry jaw; overbite.
EYES - Eyes are round to almond shape and medium sized. They are set wide apart, with the outside corner of the eye intersecting with the outside line of the skull and are set low, at the level of the muzzle, where the stop and muzzle intersect. Eye color is brown, with black pigmented eye rims.
Fault: Any pink on the eye rims.
Disqualifications: Any eye color other than brown; wall eyes; crossed eyes.
TEETH - Canine teeth are large. Broken, chipped or extracted teeth are acceptable. There are 6 corn row teeth between canines.
Fault: Exposed canine teeth NOSE - Nostrils are wide with a line running vertically between nostrils from the tip of nose down to the bottom of the upper lip. Nose is large and broad in relationship to the width of the muzzle. Nose color is black.
Faults: Any pink on the nose or in the nostrils.
Serious Fault: Slit nostrils
Disqualification: Any color nose other than black
EARS - Ears are rose, button or tulip, with rose preferred. They are set high and to the rear of the skull. The ears are positioned as wide as possible on the outside of the skull. They are small to medium in size.
NECK - Neck is medium length, wide, and slightly arched. It is a little smaller than the head where the two meet. and gets wider from that point to the shoulders. It is slightly loose from jaw to chest, forming a double dewlap.
Serious Fault: A single dewlap.
SHOULDERS - They are broad, heavily muscled and have a separation between shoulder blades. The scapula (shoulder blade) should be at an approximate 35 degree angle to vertical and forms an angle approximately 110 degrees to the humerus (forearm). Scapula and humerus should be roughly equal in length.
ELBOWS A vertical line drawn from the point of the scapula (top) to the ground will pass directly through the elbow. The elbows are not turned in or out.
FORELEGS The legs are set wide apart, coming straight down from the shoulders. They are straight vertically on inside of legs and well muscled giving a bowed appearance of front quarters. The forelegs have medium bone and are in proportion to the body.
PASTERNS The pasterns are medium in length. They are straight, strong, flexible and nearly perpendicular to the ground.
Faults: Foreleg bones too heavy or too light.
Serious Faults: Loose shoulders; upright shoulders; loose elbows; weak pasterns (either too vertical or too horizontal).
BODY - Body is sturdy and powerful. The length from tip of breastbone to rear thigh is slightly longer than the height from ground to withers.
BACK - The back is wide and muscular, showing power. Top-line has a slight roach(or wheel back). There is a fall in the back, to its low spot behind the shoulders. From this point the spine rises to the loin. The high point of the loin is a little bit higher than the shoulders, then there is a gentle curve, forming an arch, down to the tail. Loin(back of rib cage to hips) is muscular, medium in length and slightly arched.
CHEST - The chest is wide and deep with a muscular brisket. Ribs are well sprung and rounded, being at their fullest directly behind the shoulders. Shoulders to forelegs are well muscled.
Faults: Narrow rib cage. Very long or short loin.
HINDQUARTERS - Hips and thighs are strong and muscular. Hind legs are well muscled and slightly longer than the forelegs. In a natural stance they are straight, parallel and set apart when viewed from the rear. Distance between hind legs is less than distance between front legs. Angulation is moderate. Stifles have a gentle convex curve when viewed from the side. Stifle angle roughly matches the angle of the pelvis. Hocks are perpendicular to the ground when viewed from the side and back. They are parallel to each other when viewed from the back. A line drawn from the rear most part of the buttocks, perpendicular to the ground, should fall to the front of the toes. A line drawn from the upper (front) point of the pelvis, perpendicular to the ground, should pass through the knee (the two preceding tests of good angulation must be performed with the dogs hocks set perpendicular to the ground).
Fault: Hips which are equal to shoulders in width.
Serious Faults: Straight stifle. Severely cow hocked or bow hocked.
FEET - Feet are of medium size and are well arched and rounded (cats foot). They are straight when viewed from the front. Rear feet are smaller than front feet.
Faults: Feet turning in or out; long toes.
Serious Faults: Flat feet; hare feet; and splayed toes.
TAIL - Set low, thick at the root, tapering to a point. Tail should not curl over back. No Docking of the tail, it helps the dog balance so he can move while working.
Faults: Tail curling 360 degrees. Same circumference from base to tip.
Disqualifications: Kinked, docked, bobbed or screw tail (a kinked tail is a tail with one or more sharp bends).
COAT - Coatis short, close and of medium density. It should be shiny, showing good health.
Faults: Fringe, feather or curl in the coat.
COLOR - Color can be brindle of red, mahogany, fawn or black; either solid or pied (with white). Solid white. Fawn, red or black; solid color or pied.
Disqualifications: Blue (Neapolitan Mastiff color), as well as black with rust or mahogany (Rottweiler colors)
HEIGHT and WEIGHT - Males are 60 to 80 lbs. and 17 to 20 inches at the withers; Bitches are 50 to 70 lbs. and 16 to 19 inches at the withers.
Deviation from this range of height and weight will be faulted according to the extent of the deviation.Weight should be proportioned to height and the dogs must not be squat nor rangy.
GAIT - Gait is smooth, powerful, energetic and confident. Travel is straight. Feet should move forward and back in the same plane. Foot falls approach the centerline as trot speed increases. There is a slight under step as rear feet land just short of where front feet land. Front and rear reach are balanced. Feet must not cross or interfere with each other. Dog should have proper movement when viewed from the side and back.
The lying need to Stop
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