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Complaint Review: CNC Lawyers / Craigslist Scam
CNC Lawyers / Craigslist Scam217 Wisconsin Ave. Waukesha, Wisconsin United States of America
CNC Lawyers / Craigslist Scam CNC Law Group Craigslist Scam Waukesha, Wisconsin
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I just would like everybody to be aware of a scam, that I just experienced on craigslist. It even fooled the police ... Fortunately, I found out before I wired any money ...
Here it goes:
Everything started by finding a nice 1989 Speedster on craigslist for 40k. I know, too good to be true, but times are tough and you'll never know ...
I replied and got an answer back 2 days later from an older Lady (Jessica Walter), who lost her husband last year and has no use of the car anymore. The car is in their summer home at Lake Michigan (Waukesha /Wisconsin) where I could look at it. She also attached a current carfax report, showing the car being in WI all the time with the services performed. The VIN was confirmed by Porsche to be real Speedster.
However, since she is an older Lady she would like to have the money wired to a local lawyer's group trustfund (CNC Lawyer Group) and she would give me the title when I give the lawyer (Bradley Robert Saglick) the thumps up. Since I'm living 4 States away, the whole communication happened through e-mail or phone.
Of course I googled the lawyer group and they have a VERY impressive webpage ( CNC Lawyers - CNC Law Group - California / Wisconsin Law Firm ) , including all their lawyers with resumees etc. I looked up the lawyer on the "State Bar of Wisconsin" and he is in good standing in "green". He even has a "Linked" account and people are recoomending him. I called him (Wiscinsin phone number 1-262-299-4587), left a message and he called me back. Of course he confirmed ,that Jessica Walter is well known in the town and he even helped her selling her house.
A couple hours later I got a call from "Jessica", who sounded really like an older lady. Her number is also from WI (1-414-376-4439) and she told me how happy she was, that the car goes to a good home.
Then in order to make the deal I got a copy for a sales contract from the lawyer by e-mail to lock the car in. He also sent me the account information for their "trust fund" (TD Bank in Florida). After calling TD my father in law found out, that TD doesn't have an account for the "CNC lawyer group. That got me thinking so I ordered another carfax by myself and found out ,that the Speedster is located and registered in California ...
After more googeling and calling around (Tax records for properties, etc.) we found out ,that the whole thing is a scam for sure.
I know, a lot of people now think " How naive are you" ... but when the excitement kicks in ... and you really need to check out their webpage. They put a lot of criminal energy into it to set everything up.
I have bought a lot of cars in my life before, but now I've learned the following :
- never wire money without having seen the car, even in a "lawyers" account. ALWAYS look at the car in person
- don't trust attached carfax reports from owner (photo shop is a dangerous thing )
- ask for maintenance records and the last service so you call the shop for confirmation
I know, that the most people selling their cars are honest, but it only takes one to ruin your day ...
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 10/05/2012 11:25 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/CNC-Lawyers-Craigslist-Scam/Waukesha-Wisconsin-53186/CNC-Lawyers-Craigslist-Scam-CNC-Law-Group-Craigslist-Scam-Waukesha-Wisconsin-951543. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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