• Report: #494351

Complaint Review: California Coast University

  • Submitted: Sun, September 13, 2009
  • Updated: Sat, February 23, 2013

  • Reported By: Dmeiske1 — Austin Texas USA
California Coast University
700 North Main Street Santa Ana, California United States of America

California Coast University, Earned a 4 year degree in 10 months with no education really learned or taught. Don't feel that I deserve or earned a 4 year degree with no effort put into my studies. This school should be ashamed. Santa Ana, California

*Consumer Comment: alphacat is completely misinformed!

*General Comment: More about this school ,CCU

*General Comment: What About Other Colleges?

*General Comment: DETC is NOT who a real school is accredited by

*General Comment: Not accredited

*General Comment: California Coast University

*General Comment: California Coast University

*Consumer Comment: Ripoff bombed?

*General Comment: Clearing Up Misinformation

*Consumer Comment: Being grateful-and being resourceful

*Consumer Comment: CCU IS GREAT!

*General Comment: Huh? Gets better all the time!

*Consumer Comment: Highly Recommend California Coast University

*Consumer Comment: Perhaps you should stop posting

*Author of original report: I want this posting deleted and to set the record straight

*Consumer Comment: Your follow up posts are not helping.

*Author of original report: I want this report deleted because I meant no harm to CCU

*General Comment: Say what?

*Author of original report: I am returning back to this school and I am sorry

*General Comment: In two words........

*Author of original report: This School May Be Okay But Don't Really Know For Sure

*Consumer Comment: CCU

*Author of original report: California Coast University Is A Good School

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I went to California Coast University (CCU) in hopes that I could get my degree while studying at home. I started my studies on 6/06/2005 and only earned 9 semseter credit hours from another regionally accredited college. I had very limited work experience since I took other training courses over the years just for my beneift. I got a lot of semester hours and credit from CCU that I thought I didn't deserve.


I took the courses from CCU and it was so easy because all the tests were open book and just had an essay portion that was a joke. My argument with this school is that no help was provided that was promised before I started the courses. They gave me a telephone number for the professor of each course but they were never available when you needed help and an assistant would usually call you back but days later.


I called to complain when I started my studies to show my dissatisfaction with the courses and level of assistance but nobody cared and a representative told me that if I left the program then I would be penalized 25% of what I paid and if I stayed than I could get my money back later on if I showed that I was a good student. HE LIED!!! They wanted me to stay in the program so there would be no refund later on when I was close to completion.


The essays I had to complete for each course was horrible, a third grader could write a better essay than me and most of the stuff I put was plagurized by me copying the text because I didn't know any better. One of CCU's staff told me to stop copying the text out of the book and use my own words so I did but my work was still third grade material in comparison to college grade material. I graduated with a 4 year degree in 10 months and finished my studies on 4/20/2006. I complained to the school over the years and after I finished my studies but they didn't care. I contacted the Distance Education and Training Council (DETC) but they didn't care either and never responded to my complaint.


Every time I put that I earned a degree from CCU on my resume I feel as though I am lying and not telling employers the truth. I earned a 4 year degree in 10 months that I felt I really never earned or deserved. I am just an honest person and I think this school really doesn't offer people the challenge they are looking or paying for. CCU credits don't even transfer to any other institution because nobody really takes nationally accredited hours unless it is a nationally accredited school. I really want justice against these crooks that put my name on a list of graduates who really didn't earn what they received. I lost thousands of dollars on useless material and don't want you to lose your money to these crooks. BEWARE OF CALIFORNIA COAST UNIVERSITY!!!!


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#1 Consumer Comment

alphacat is completely misinformed!

AUTHOR: Erik_72 - ()

alphacat's comments that DETC is a useless accrediting body has no merit and is blatantly not true.  The DETC is a recognized accrediting body of the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA), here is the link:

http://chea.org/search/actionInst.asp

Many regionally accredited schools accept credits from DETC schools.  In fact, CHEA has setup up the Higher Education Transfer Alliance (HETA) so schools can work closer together on transfers.  CCU is a member of HETA, along with many other nationally and regionally accredited schools.  See below:

http://chea.org/heta/search.asp#ser

So, alphacat made statements that have no basis for this discussion because they are simply not true.  There his personal opinions that must be triggered by his hate for online schools that cater to working class adults.

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#2 General Comment

More about this school ,CCU

AUTHOR: sean - ()

The comment about credits not transferring to a regionally accredited school are NOT true. While CCU is "only" nationally accredited, they ARE accredited. This should be known. Second and more importantly, my wife graduated with a 3.92 from CCU and transferred to a regionally accredited school on the east coast to persue her MS. That school took ALL of her credits from CCU and made her take just one more class not covered by CCU that they required. She is now about 1/3 of the way through her Master's program at the gaining school with no issue.   

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#3 General Comment

What About Other Colleges?

AUTHOR: ronnie s. - ()

To ALL Who Think This College Is A Ripoff:

Is Georgetown University, Duke University, University of North Carolina and literally HUNDREDS of other well-respected colleges like them ripoffs because many of their graduates can barely speak correctly the English language ("I seen..." "We was..." "Me and him was...")? Listen to some of the athletes speak both AFTER they received their degree from these supposedly prestigious universities.

Athletes aside, are colleges like UCLA, USC ripoffs because many of their non-athlete students or graduates think the Civil War was "like, in, um, like the 1930's??..." or that the United States has "uhhh, like thirty-something states..." or that our current vice president is "that guy from Global Warming?" Remember Jay Leno's Jay Walking segments where Leno walked the streets of LA and randomly asked simple questions of colled-aged people proudly donning their college garb. Are thewse schools ripoffs?

Is Rutgers University a ripoff because it paid Nicole "Snooki" Polizzi- whose claim to fame was getting drunk, getting laid, geting arrested and burping on the Jersey Shore TV show- $35,000 to speak to a group of its students yet only paid a Pulitzer Prize-winning author $30,000? Is this school a ripoff?

How come nobody is filing ripoff reports for these other supposedly highly esteemed colleges? From what I researched, CCU does NOT charage its students the $100,000-$200,000 to get their degrees like these other colleges.

 

 

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#4 General Comment

DETC is NOT who a real school is accredited by

AUTHOR: alphacat - ()

California Coast University claims it is "accredited" and people on this site are very impressed by how CCU is "nationally accredited" by DESC.  Unfortunately, that is a useless accreditation.  If you want to use your CCU units or degree at another school, or for salary enhancement if your employer is a school or college, you need to attend a college that is REGIONALLY, not NATIONALLY, accredited.  In the west, that would be the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC).  Without that, you are wasting your effort and money.  Ask any community college counselor or the admissions office of any real college.

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#5 General Comment

Not accredited

AUTHOR: alphacat - ()

California Coast University claims it is "accredited" and people on this site are very impressed by how CCU is "nationally accredited" by DESC.  Unfortunately, that is a useless accreditation.  If you want to use your CCU units or degree at another school, or for salary enhancement if your employer is a school or college, you need to attend a college that is REGIONALLY, not NATIONALLY, accredited.  In the west, that would be the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC).  Without that, you are wasting your effort and money.  Ask any community college counselor or the admissions office of any real college.

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#6 General Comment

California Coast University

AUTHOR: BOB SMITH - (United States of America)

No, the only dishonest person is you.  Not the university. 

The only one who cheated was you, not the university.

The only person who is now lying to his employers and prospective employers is you, not the university.

You contracted the university to guide you and provide you with the education you contracted to obtain.

They provided you with the necessary study material and asked you to study honestly, ethically and diligently

You elected to cheat, copy, find shortcuts and circumvent the system that Calcoast created

Through your cheating, you robbed yourself of vital knowledge and experience that you would have been enriched with and your work would have been enhanced.

But no, you chose an easy way out, cheated, was dishonest and found every which way to short circuit the system instead of studying to satisfy your conscience.

You see, you can take a horse to the water, but you cannot make it to drink.

People like you disgust me.

You do everything that is wrong and yet you have the audacity to write in to reputable sites like Rip Off Report and complain about your own shortcomings, blaming it on others.  Makes me think of the current government of the United States.  They will not accept responsibility for everything that is going on.  It is always the previous administration's fault.  They will never own up for their own shortcomings.  Perhaps you should stand still and take responsibility for your own actions.  It will definitely make you into a respectable human being and perhaps, command some respect from your fellow man.

Grow up!

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#7 General Comment

California Coast University

AUTHOR: BOB SMITH - (United States of America)

I am shocked and perturbed at the complainants post.  I have recently registered as a student for my MBA and all I got was civility, cooperation and assistance from the beginning.  For him/her to complain about the timeframe that the degree was completed is disingenuous.  If he promotes that he is an honest individual, I question his honesty and integrity on his own admission that he plaguarized information from his study material into his assignments.  One has now to ask:  "Who is disingenuous?  Calcoast University or the complainant?"

I find Calcoast totally professional, helpful and ethical at all times.  I will not hesitate to recommend them to any truly honest and serious student wishing to accelerate his studies at his own pace - whether it be  3 months or 4 years.

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#8 Consumer Comment

Ripoff bombed?

AUTHOR: 1Ronald - (United States of America)

The writer who misconstrued my not getting 100% with failing and who also is preoccupied with cheating is either miserably dumb, for which no reply can satisfy.  However, if that writer's sole purpose is to discredit distance learning which requires students to be self-starters, then it appears as a threat to the once well entrenched traditional learning model.  I hesitate to reply to such a poorly written piece that seems to incur no academic quality other than a shout across the street.  Any who feel that CCU is "so easy" would get as little out of an education at any of the traditional universities because they are in life to do as little as possible, skating to nowhere.
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#9 General Comment

Clearing Up Misinformation

AUTHOR: TMac34 - (United States of America)

Not sure Dmeiske1's agenda year, but Adolph and others seem to need clarification on California Coast University.  First, CCU isn't a diploma mill.  They have been accredited since 2005 by the Distance Education & Training Council (DETC), which is recognized by the Council of Higher Education and the US Dept. of Education.  Therefore, any degrees earned after 2005 are legit and recognized.

http://www.chea.org/about/chea-member-directory.asp

Second, yes they offer open book quizzes and tests, but to pass the class, each student is required to write a end of class session research paper.  The instructor gives the student a few subjects to choose from and each of those subjects pertain to the overall subject matter.  So, you could pass the quizzes and tests, but if you haven't followed the curriculum, taken notes, and studied the textbook material, you are not going to have a good grasp of the material for your research paper and will not pass the class.  CCU is catered to working class adults, so this type of curriculum works well.  If you are a 45 yr old sales mgr going back to school, doesn't it make more sense to write a research paper on how international marketing effects the US economy vs. cramming to memorize Econ definitions? Think about it, it really gives the adult student a better appreciation for the material.

Hope that helps you understand CCU better.  I can remember sitting in lecture hall, dozing off, and then cramming the night before the test.  The point is just like any school, you get out what you put in.  Sounds like Demeiske got out exactly what he put in.

Thanks.
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#10 Consumer Comment

Being grateful-and being resourceful

AUTHOR: Grateful - (United States of America)

Hello,

I just read the complaints about CCU.EDU.
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I'm a first generation, a vietnam veteran, a woman, hispanic, and an older person.

And slow-The measles were not nice to me.  This has not prevented me from practicing a little common sense.

I have seen alot of changes, allowances, and adjustments in getting an education.

It used to be that correspondence education was for the imigrants, going to school at night, just to get that "fake" piece of paper--from a "fake" correspondence school. A correspondence school listed on the back of some popular science magazine.

My Father:  By day, Joseph M, would work the canneries, bringing in the nets full fish, by night he studied. I used to hear my Father sitting up late, Joseph and my mother, Eleanor,  discussing the futures of all my brothers and sisters.

Going forward:
With an education--that paper--that coveted degree----you become visable to some occupations/industries. Your resume gets to second base--the interviewers desk.

With out an education-that coveted degree--you are invisable. The "daylabor" group.  Your resume only gets to first base---the trash can/ or the shredder.

I understand that my degree will provided the necessary classes required to earn that B.S.  Its not easy. Yes....it may be an open book test----but open book tests are not easy.

Yes...we are required to write an essay after each unit---an essay--conveys what I have read, researched, paraphrased, NO PLAGERISM. I will pick one of the three subjects to write about,  I will use the STAR system approach to my essay......I want to keep my reader hanging onto every word I write..just like when I present Ideas at work.

If I want a specialty focus--I wil call and ask the college---and I will be patient, and you must be patient with the staff. Anything over and beyound what you think you will need....you can pick up at work, or take a specialty class at a junior college.

Employers weigh on vocational experience, education experience, and your examples of "how I saved the day" STAR system. You look up the STAR system. You must learn to do all your own footwork.  Don't blame CCU.EDU for not spoon feeding you.

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#11 Consumer Comment

CCU IS GREAT!

AUTHOR: alessia11 - (United States of America)

 California Coast University is a great school. This University is for busy people such as full time professionals, military personnel , parents, etc. CCU programs are designed for adults that do not need to be babysat by a traditional classroom teacher. If you put little effort into the program and plagiarizer your whole way through then you WILL not learn anything. 

I have been putting a lot of work into obtaining my degree. I get my course textbooks and read through the entire book, all the while taking exams and writing essays. The essays I submit are top quality and take me time to write. No elementary student could do my course work. 

CCU is nationally accredited, and the credits can transfer to regionally accredited institutions under the HETA agreement. 

 California Coast University is a great school. This school is allowing people who must work a full work week, to support their families, receive a quality education. CCU is helping hard working Americans get the education they need to better their lives. Shame on anybody who undermines this goal.
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#12 General Comment

Huh? Gets better all the time!

AUTHOR: Adolph - (USA)

QUOTE:"And, yes, the exams are open book and try as I might I never scored 100%--again to the credit of CCU for designing exams that are fully comprehensive and accomplish the goal of achieving results-oriented learning". Failing an exam in which data may be accessed at will is sort of pathetic, IMHO. That's assuming the 'books' weren't in Latin.
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Very interesting!  I guess "open book" testing negates the need for any kind of cheating or cribbing notes. You were afforded the full advantages of cheating and still didn't get 100%?

Oh well, I guess that 'university' can lay claim to "our students don't cheat". Uhhh....they don't have to, eh?
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#13 Consumer Comment

Highly Recommend California Coast University

AUTHOR: 1Ronald - (United States of America)

I thoroughly enjoyed graduate coursework in psychology at California Coast University (CCU).  It is topnotch and uses critical tests that provide a meaningful understanding of human behavior.  This is why I like and recommend California Coast Universitys DETC accredited distant learning program. 

Having done graduate work in psychology, attending classes at 3 different bricks & mortar universities, I will NEVER, EVER sit in another graduate psychology classroom and be forcefully indoctrinated into the latest pop fashion theory du jour.  Now, its cognitive behavioral.  In the classroom, you either go cb or you go home.  CB is popular because its easy to understand, easy to apply, and appeals to those who would have difficulty with anything else.  I do not need the classrooms countless brainwashing of a theorem and methodology that I MUST follow only to hear the constant degradations of others that, nonetheless, continue to work.  I suffered this in the classroom with S-R psychology, and do not need a re-hash of something else.  I do not need to be sucked into the politics of how I must think. 

Every theory has its place and can be applied with someemphasis on somesuccess depending on the behavior change sought or management adaptation (for those working in IO) to a work environment.  California Coast University fills the bill.  I cant speak for the d**n dumb who are everywhere.  I can only speak for myself and that is California Coast works and deserves to be recognized for the important role that they fill and the service they provide to the academic and professional community.  BUT, you MUST have self-initiative and discipline, be a self-starter, and take responsibility for your learning and education in any distant learning program.  But this is true in any endeavor in life among those who are a cut above and strive to get ahead.  CCU is ideal for a career person who is still growing, advancing, and always moving on to bigger and better career options. 

And, yes, the exams are open book and try as I might I never scored 100%--again to the credit of CCU for designing exams that are fully comprehensive and accomplish the goal of achieving results-oriented learning.  I rate CCUs required texts as extremely high quality.  Not only do they accomplish their goal, but impart information generally not available elsewhere.  I was able to get these on inter-library loan through my federal workplace Library and I also purchased some for my personal library.  In at least one course, I contacted the textbook author and made suggestions for a later edition. 
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#14 Consumer Comment

Perhaps you should stop posting

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

I guess you were so busy studying for your Degree that you failed to read the policy of this site.  They DO NOT delete reports, and no matter how many times you ask them to it will still be here.  In fact the only thing you are doing by continually asking them to remove it is to "bump" it up for an entirely new set of people to possibly see it and give you comments like this....

I worked my butt off to attain a degree from this school and  will recommend them to others
- But you had to do limited work, got more "credit" for previous work than you thought you deserved, in fact at one point you didn't even think you learned anything new.

Yet you say that you "worked my butt off"?
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#15 Author of original report

I want this posting deleted and to set the record straight

AUTHOR: Dmeiske1 - (U.S.A.)

I did graduate in 10 months but I did this because of the number of transfer credits I had from  other schools I attended and the experience I had by having my own business. My complaint wasn't about the school itself but about the lack of support in my studies. They are a legit school and accredited by the Council for Higher Education (CHEA) and under the Distance Education and Training Council (DETC) and recognized by the US Dept of Education. I worked my butt off to attain a degree from this school and  will recommend them to others. Please delete this posting RipOffReport.
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#16 Consumer Comment

Your follow up posts are not helping.

AUTHOR: Flynrider - (USA)

"I graduated from CCU and my complaint was the lack of instruction and not about the school itself.

  I can only point out that these ludicrous follow up posts are only highlighting your lack of education.    How do you separate the "lack of instruction" from the "school itself"?  What is that even supposed to mean?

  Do you think that earning a 4 yr. degree in 10 months might indicate a lack of instruction?  Don't you think that should not reflect favorably on the school?  Sheesh!

"  The school is accredited by DETC and I have had a wonderful experience with them after finishing graduate school.  "

  What?  You finished your masters degree already?   You're education is a joke.    Perhaps if you have a few hours to spare, you could knock out a Ph.D.

   I have no doubt that you changed your tune about this school when you realized that no legitimate masters program would ever accept your dubious credentials from this school.  That kinda limited your choices didn't it?   

  Fortunately for the world, your original review will always show up on Google searches.   That way when you present your credentials to an employer, they can get the real scoop from the horses mouth.   Thank you for that public service. 

 The school is accredited by DETC and I have had a wonderful experience with them after finishing graduate school. Please delete this posting RipOffReport.com. Thank you "
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#17 Author of original report

I want this report deleted because I meant no harm to CCU

AUTHOR: Dmeiske1 - (U.S.A.)

I graduated from CCU and my complaint was the lack of instruction and not about the school itself. The school is accredited by DETC and I have had a wonderful experience with them after finishing graduate school. Please delete this posting RipOffReport.com. Thank you.
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#18 General Comment

Say what?

AUTHOR: Adolph - (USA)

Diogenes quandary is on everyones mind, no doubt. After detailed information on the schools open book tests and the fact a four year
degree was earned in 10 months plus a plethora of other meaningful complaints, to wit: They gave me a telephone number for the
professor of each course but they were never available when you needed help and an assistant would usually call you back but days later, The essays I had to complete for each course was horrible, a third grader could write a better essay than me and most of the stuff I put was plagurized (sic)  by me copying the text because I didn't know any better. One of CCU's staff told me to stop copying the text out of the book and use my own words so I did but my work was still
third grade material in comparison to college grade material,  I lost
thousands of dollars on useless material and don't want you to lose your money to these crooks. BEWARE OF CALIFORNIA COAST UNIVERSITY!!!!

The detailed initial post followed by the series of brief nugatory retractions is a good argument for RORs policy of not removing entries. Such an abrupt reversal of seemingly accurate, legitimate,
detailed complaints is, to say the least, immediately suspect. Regardless of whatever means the university used to affect this abrupt reversal of the O.P.s initial rant, it still serves as valuable information for future readers. It should  (and will) remain!
 
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#19 Author of original report

I am returning back to this school and I am sorry

AUTHOR: Dmeiske1 - (U.S.A.)

I want this post deleted but ripoffreport won't allow me to delete my original complaint. I graduated and I am going back to this school for my masters. Nothing was wrong with the school and I have learned that college is what you make of it. I just want to set the record straight and TELL EVERYONE HOW SORRY I AM AND THAT CCU IS A GREAT SCHOOL!!!!!
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#20 General Comment

In two words........

AUTHOR: Adolph - (U.S.A.)

Diploma mill.
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#21 Author of original report

This School May Be Okay But Don't Really Know For Sure

AUTHOR: Dmeiske1 - (U.S.A.)

I changed my mind and wanted to say that I am not sure this school is that great since I was rushed into the studies and their was no assistance during my studies that they tell potential students they will get. I did complain to DETC and the BBB but my complaint went unheard and they said they couldn't help me since I already completed the program so that is why I said the school was a good school because I was scared of them taking away my degree but I'm not really that scared since I never learned anything and was cheated out of getting a real degree that one earns and works for.

I feel as though this school works more on marketing their education than actually giving one but that can be said really about most colleges but it stands out at CCU. I still believe that California Coast University shouldn't of given me credits for what I didn't deserve and have more fair a competitive classes. I didn't learn anything so how can I say that I got a degree when I really never put anything into it. THIS SCHOOL IS A SHAM AND THEY SHOULD BE CLOSED AND I SHOULD GET MY MONEY BACK SO I CAN GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND LEARN SOMETHING RATHER THAN NOTHING.

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#22 Consumer Comment

CCU

AUTHOR: Diogenes - (U.S.A.)

Wow !!  That is some reversal of opinion !!  What did they do ?  Threaten to take back the degree that you barely worked for ???? 
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#23 Author of original report

California Coast University Is A Good School

AUTHOR: Dmeiske1 - (U.S.A.)

I was just complaining about the assistance provided and how fast I completed my degree but that is my fault and not theirs. I think this school needs to work on assisting students more though with the courses. But I have no complaints about this school but just that I finished school so quickly that I really don't know if I learned anything new.
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