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  • Submitted: Tue, August 25, 2009
  • Updated: Sat, July 16, 2011

  • Reported By: Elonda — Batesville Indiana USA
Cally Razo
www.fairytailshihtzu.com Internet United States of America

Cally Razo Fairytail Shih Tzu Breeder sold me two defective puppies for breeding purposes and is ignoring my emails and calls Batesville, Indiana

*Author of original report: WOW

*Author of original report: Strange

*Author of original report: Statement above refracted

*Author of original report: Resolved

*Author of original report: Pics speak a thousand words

*Author of original report: Not an imperial

*Author of original report: Trying to add photos of satchel

*Author of original report: adding photos

*Author of original report: Proof

*Author of original report: IRRESPONSIBLE BREEDER

*Author of original report: She has been provided the proof

*Consumer Comment: Please disregard this womans comments!

*Author of original report: Still no word from Ms Razo

* : Response to time and money

* : You could have saved yourself time and money

* : Are you just PLAIN STUPID

* : Vet Confirmation

* : "spilling the beans" comment

* : "Spilling the beans"

* : Wht A LIE

* : I'm done with this nonsense

* : What about????

* : drs report dated June 1, 2009

* : what a nut

* : PLEASE GET SATCHEL INTO A VET OR RETURN HIM TO ME!

* : PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE SELLING OR BUYING FROM ANYONE!

* : PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE SELLING OR BUYING FROM ANYONE!

* : Response

* : Returning Satchel

* : false statement

* : This is not a game

* : Concerning Satchel

* : Concerning Riser

* : deposit on third puppy

* : specialist that diagnosed this puppy

* : Proof

* : Elonda Womack is in the market to slander good breeders. Fairy Tail Shih Tzu stands behind her puppies.

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I have purchased two puppies from this breeder with full registration and breeding rights. Both puppies have congenital/heriditary conditions which have been diagnosed not only by veterinarians but specialist in their field. I contacted this breeder when the first puppy that i paid $2000 for, was diagnosed with a congenital eye problem and the specialist advised against breeding him. First she was cordial and put my name on her "co own" list for another puppy but EVERY puppy I chose seemed to not be a part of the "co own" list even though it was clear they were. So when I confronted her about that, she chose to tell me that she and her "partner" had decided not to do anything about the dog. In the meantime I bought and paid $1600 for another puppy from a complete different breeding and lo and behold he too has a congenital eye problem plus a bite issue and lazy tongue, so he too should not be bred. I do not want to be forced into filing these reports as I know its not good for business, but when I have paid out this much money for breeding dogs I expect to get what I pay for. Mrs Razo has chosen to ignore my emails and phone calls so she has left me no other choice. I would be happy to show proof from vets and specialist and pictures on these dogs.

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#1 Author of original report

WOW

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Ms Barto you can "accidently" send me stuff all day if you want to, did not realize that your harrasment would turn out in my favor.
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Strange

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Something strange about sending an answer letter to the opposing counsel. I sent by priority mail, put letter inside a manilla envelope then inside a Priority envelope and had weighed, and mailed from the post office window on Feb 4th 2010, Tracked by USPS and was delivered to her on Feb 7th, but last week Feb 17th, 2010, I get the letter back, OPENED, and taken out of the priorty envelope, supposedly returned for postage. VERY STRANGE stuff going on here, but the court has their copy.
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Statement above refracted

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

I would like to refract the statement above.

I am currently working with attorneys both here in OH and in UT in hopes to get this matter resolved quickly.

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Resolved

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Resolved
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#5 Author of original report

Pics speak a thousand words

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

The above pics speaks for Calley and her breeding practices and proves my point about the dogs she sold me. I would also be more than happy to provide anyone the vet reports on either puppy, to show all the money I paid out of my pocket on these two dogs she sold that were "supposedly" so healthy when they left her home. Please boycott this breeder, she should not even be allowed to breed. Of course she has a gorgeous website, but believe me and proof is here, its only a front
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Not an imperial

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

While this is really irrelevant at this point, I received a Christmas card this week with a pic of Riser the first male, with dry eye, that I got from Calley that was "supposed" to be an imperial and I paid $1600 for, He is now 14 lbs, (Reigna/Gurgi) breeding. I knew this male was not going to be imperial when he lived with me and mentioned this to Calley and she "acted" so surprised that he was that big.

Riser is in a loving pet home now, I GAVE him to these people and lost everything I had invested in him, including shots, and surgery to remove his eye due to the severe chronic dry eye.

Don't believe anything this breeder tells you about her so called "healthy imperials"

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Trying to add photos of satchel

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Trying to upload photos of one of the defective dogs I purchased from this breeder.
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#8 Author of original report

adding photos

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

These photos are of Satchel
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Proof

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

To the individual above that thinks proof has not been submitted. Ask Calley why she can no longer put her listings on the most widely used puppy buy/sell site on the internet. Proof has also been provided to them and why she chose to take all her ads down, she doesn't want the truth exposed and she cannot remove it this time as she has done before.

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IRRESPONSIBLE BREEDER

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Below is an email that i received from a lady that wanted Satchel as a pet, but after speaking with her vet he advised her against taking him. This is total irresponsible on this breeders part. No one is going to want this little boy knowing about his eye condition. She knows this. We as "responsible" breeders take back any puppies that we breed with a congenital problem. Ms Razo will not even take my calls, emails or reg letters. I plan on sueing as I have been advised to do by many. But I am also contacting the SPCA in her city and PETA. I am sure they would like to know of her practices. Its a total shame there are breeders out there, for greed only, continuing to breed these genetic problems and no one wants to take on the responsibility.

 

From: "Burton, Nancy M." <(((Redacted)))
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:52 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Regarding Satchel


Elonda: I talked with my vet on 9/24/09 about Satchel's health problems
and he does not recommend me getting him. He stated that Satchel will
develop more eye problems that could become costly to me. I'm sorry
about this, but I'm going to take his advice since he will be the one
taking care of Satchel. So, I am no longer interested. Maybe I will find
a dog locally here. Thanks again.

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She has been provided the proof

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

In reponse to Amanda above Apparently you are writing on something you know NOTHING about. Ms Razo has been provided letters from vets AND specialist that these dogs eyes were bad. Also good for you that you have a good dog from her, Consider yourself lucky. Perhaps when you breed YOUR dog from her, these defects will come out in their puppies, That CAN happen. All goes to show, that they don't give a damn about genetics and what they are breeding. Maybe you need to do some testing on that "healthy" puppy you bought from her and then you may have a different opinion. Yes I too thought Calley was great until she has been so nasty about this with these two puppies. I was even going to forget about the first puppy, and just ask for my money back on this last one. But since Ms Razo thinks she is so smart, I am sueing her in small claims court.  We will see who gets the last laugh.

 

Also about going to her home and seeing how her dogs are raised, I have buyers who have been here to my home and see how my babies are raised. They swim in my pool, have more toys and clothes than most children and go with me for rides in the car. ANY buyer that has been here can tell you, my home is perfectly clean and so are my dogs. So that is not even an argument here. Try something else.

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Please disregard this womans comments!

AUTHOR: Amanda - (USA)

I have recently purchased a shih Tzu puppy from Fairy tail Shih Tzu as well. I found Calley to be very helpful, patient and informative. I also purchased a higher priced puppy to include breeding rights. I have personally been in Calley's home and seen how her puppies are treated as well as meet her in person. She is a very honest person, she gave me all the information I requested, when I asked her about any health issues with her dogs she gave me very honest and blunt information. How her prices on her puppies reflect the amount she charges as well.

I have called often with questions for Calley, and she has responded very timely, as well as has often responded via phone or email regarding my questions. My female dog has not a single health issue in the year I have had her. She is beautiful as well as well tempered. She has no eye problems, no knee or patella problems. She is a fabulous dog. My vet has actually asked me every time I go in with her or any of my other dogs, when I will be breeding her. He thinks she is stunning!

I hope the woman who wrote this report realizes that she has a written contract with the breeder and if she provided proof from the vet, I am sure there would not be any problems at all with this woman.

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Still no word from Ms Razo

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

I spent another $100 and took Satchel to the vet again per Calleys request for an affirmative diagnosis that his eye condition is indeed congential. She still refuses to return my calls, answer my emails, or my certified letter to let me know what she intends to do. I suppose that means she PLANS on doing nothing.

These ladies (Calley Razo from Fairytail Shih Tzu and Sue Barto from Buncha Shih Tzus) are partners in this business and it is clear that they are in this for money only, they could care less about the genetics they are breeding and no matter what they say, I am proof they do not stand by their guarantee. They are breeding for these tiny imperial (5 lbs and under) Shih Tzus. Size is the ONLY thing that matters to them. Sue states above to your homework before buying from anyone, Gosh Sue I am sure you are speaking of yourself and your partner as I, as a breeder myself, DO stand by my guarantee. These ladies state they do testing on their dogs but if so they would know about some of these issues they are continuing to produce there. Or maybe they do know and that is why they sell or have sold every dog that I have bought a puppy from.

I plan on taking action and I don't like negativity but if I can save one person this heartache it will make me a better person than they.

 

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Response to time and money

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Kristina, to answer  your questions all her dogs DO come from champion lines, so the fact that they are smaller has nothing to do with the fact that she is not standing behind her contract and giving me healthy dogs that are breedable and what I pay for. Everyone has their own opinion and you are entitled to yours. My argument is NOT with you, its with Calley, so all my rebutals will be addressed to her.

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You could have saved yourself time and money

AUTHOR: Kristina - (USA)

By going to a REPUTABLE Shih Tzu breeders. You say you bought two dogs from her for the purchase of breeding, but here is my question to you do you know ANYTHING about this breed? If you did you would have NEVER touched this breeder's dogs with a 100ft pole. The breed standard clear states Shih Tzus are to be between 9 and 16 pounds. Not ONE of her dogs meet that.

She does not SHOW her dogs. She uses labels like Imperial which EVERY Shih Tzu breed club is firmly against. Who cares if the adult have a FEW champions in their pedigrees. THEY are show champs and never could be.

The other warning flag should have been the fact they have NO problem selling two pups to anyone let alone to 'breeding potentials' to a non established breeding program.

I am sorry you are having trouble or at least say you are, but that fact is you brought this on yourself by NOT doing your homework about who to buy from.
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Are you just PLAIN STUPID

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Laura you do not even know me ,so why are you getting involved in something that is NONE of your business. There is going to be a lawsuit over this, paperwork is being filed in small claims court in Utah, if you want to involve yourself, keep making your comments. I want NOTHING of Mushus lines or NOTHING Calley owns, I want my money back and intend to pursue it.

The way I see this is "birds of a feather flock together" just keep on covering each others backs. The court will make the final decision on BOTH of these dogs.

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Vet Confirmation

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Satchel went to the vet today 9/10/09, He was found to have chronic congenital Dry eye, thru testing at the vets office, she also confirmed his bite is bad AND he has an umbillical hernia of which I was NOT told about before Calley shipped him to me for breeding purposes. THe worst of these is the dry eye as he will have to have oinment in his eyes the rest of his life. There is no surgery to correct this problem. Calley says her local vets say that this can be brought on by "other" things. Ms Razo I have NEVER put anything in these dogs eyes that were not prescribed by the vet. I feel so bad for this poor little dog, he is so sweet to have to endure this at such an early age. Ms Razo has been notified of my intentions should she decide not to take care of this.

As far as Lauras comments above. My Lea and Milo are from the same lines as Calley's Mushu, I have NO clue about your Domino, perhaps I did inquire before I knew he was related to Mushu. Lea was found to have inguinal hernias at time of her spaying and the full sister to Milo I also owned her name was Emily, she died at one year old due to a brain aneurism. She was very tiny and was never healthy the whole year of her life. Thats all I can tell you about those lines, to which I will say I would not breed a dog from, knowing some of the genetics.

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"spilling the beans" comment

AUTHOR: Laura - (USA)

 

 Ordinarily I would have kept off this ridiculous site but due to the fact I have dogs closely related to all but one of Calley's (and they are AWESOME) I felt that the comment regarding the quality of her lines directly affected me as well and needed addressing by myself.

Reminder of Elonda's Comment: 

"I don't think you want me to spill the beans on some of the dogs in your breeding program, Remeber I do have PET only babies from those same lines and I can guarantee they are NOT breeding quality. I have proof of that too."

 "you know for a fact Mushu is related to my Lea and Milo"

  The dog Elonda claims to have the "pet only" lines of  (the spilling the beans comment) is Mushu, who is from the breeder/lines mentioned in this e-mail sent to me by Elonda in which she raves about the breeder/breeders dogs and mentions wanting another dog from this breeder. She also mentions that she got the dogs before she thought about breeding, not that they weren't breeding quality. I also have several requests from Elonda to be on my waiting list for a Domino baby, who is Mushu's son. So if they are "NOT breeding quality" why would she even want another dog from the same breeder as well as offspring from those lines?

Email sent to me from Elonda (name of breeder has been x'd out by myself):

Hi Laura I know what its like to have the nose so short its hard to work on
it, I have a couple that way. Dove has the flat face and my little pet only
girl Leah, looks like a little persian kitten. She came from the same
breeder here in OH that Calley got Mushu from, I love XXX's dogs,  I am
looking at a tiny black/white from her. I bought my Leah and Milo from her 4
years ago before I even thought about breeding. XXX's kennel is state of the
art and VERY clean.

Whisper is doing good, she doesnt pee on me, and never did, but does my
husband LOL. She is 7 lbs currently and is having her first heat I thought
OMG she is too young lol

I am sooooooooo excited about Satchel from Calley, I hope he looks just like
his dad.

I will just watch your site for future babies.

Take Care
ELonda

 

A waiting list request sent by Elonda, Domino is Mushu's son, Puddles is a Shanti grand-baby (belongs to Calley):

Hi Laura, just wondering if I could get on your waiting list for a baby out of Puddles and Domino?

Thanks

 

Another waiting list  request for a Domino baby:

Hi Laura I was wondering if I could get on the list for Sushi/Domino breeding for a black/white parti female with full reg?

 

            Elonda is in one breath calling these lines "not breeding quality" and then in another raving about them and making requests for puppies from these lines. Makes ZERO sense to me.

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"Spilling the beans"

AUTHOR: Laura - (USA)

  I have known Calley for several years now and I also have dogs fairly closely related to all but one of her dogs and they are of AMAZING quality. I have done several dealings with Calley and would not hesitate to do so again and also am more than happy recommend her to others looking for adorable, quality puppies.

   I was a bit upset over Elonda's "spilling the beans" comment as I have an e-mail from Elonda raving about Mushu's breeder and wanting another puppy from her, and this seems to be the only dog Elonda has any connection to with her "pet only" dogs lines that she made the comment about. In fact Elonda wanted to be on my waiting list for a Domino puppy from me who is Mushu's son. Now I am left wondering why, if they are not of breeding quality, would you Elonda, want another dog from this same breeder that produced the "not breeding quality" dogs you spoke of and a puppy from Domino who is also closely related? Leads me to believe you were just blowing smoke and trying to make anothother breeders dogs look bad when you had no grounds to do so.

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Wht A LIE

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Calley that is a downright LIE, you know for a fact Mushu is related to my Lea and Milo. Geez you lie more everyday. Go ahead and get your lawyer as I sure plan on doing that. Yes I did send you the email to forfeit my deposit simply because I was NOT about to send you more money to lose, and now that Satchels bite has gone off like this and his eyes are bad I am SO glad I did not. OK since you are leaving me no choice and obvioulsy do not care about your reputation, I WILL be filing this paperwork in small claims court to recoup my money.
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I'm done with this nonsense

AUTHOR: Calley - (USA)

Re: Forfeit Deposit Request? From: Elonda Womack Sent: Mon 5/11/09 3:42 PM To: Calley Calley,I know you have a lot going on in your life right now and so do I. I am having some issues with my hormones due to I had a hystorectomy at age 32 and am now 48, I went off my hormones last year because I was just scared of the risk since I had been on them for so long. My doctor told me he thought I was going to wish I hadn't and he is probably right.   I am not asking for you to sell me a puppy now as things have been said by both parties, but I do want to apologize, as I do feel we had a good breeder relationship, I love both Satchel and Riser and I don't want to do anything to that. I hope we can at least be civil and move on pass this.   Sincerely, ELonda  Mrs. Womack is claiming I only refunded her deposit due to her sending a certified letter with a threat of taking me to court. You can see in this email that the truth is I had decided to send her deposit back to her even though I had every right to keep her deposit which is non-refundable & was being forfeited at her request, but did not want her to have another one of my babies or to deal with her any longer.   ----- Original Message ----- From:   Calley To:   Elonda Womack Sent:  Monday, May 11, 2009 1:25 PM Subject:  Forfeit Deposit Request Elonda, As per your request, I have removed you from my waiting list since you wish to forfeit your deposit & would rather not purchase another puppy from me.  Even though I do not have to refund your deposit, I will be mailing it back to you.  I am sorry you are unhappy & wish you well in your breeding program. Calley :)  http://www.fairytailshihtzu.com Start a chapter in your life story only to end with they live "Happily Ever After."     From: Elonda To: Calley Subject: Re: Regarding $800 SALE Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:26:10 -0400 Calley I guess i am just going to forfeit the deposit i have down with you, unless you would use some of it to ship my replacement puppy for Riser. I just can't get past this and would rather not purchase again. I try everything in my power to work with people and really expect the same in return. I will not say anything negative about you or your puppies as i don't have anything negative to say, I am happy with my purchase, just not happy with the co own deal and how that is handled. I still just can't understand how I am going to get a "pick" puppy when everything that is co owned, either you or Sue will take picks first and those are not eligible.   Please keep me updated on any "eligible" puppies ELonda The more & more I read about Elonda the more sad I feel for the 2 babies she has adopted from me & the countless other past puppies & dogs she has used as a pawn in her attacks. Who knows how many others have been a victim of Elonda Womack but have been scared into her tactics & ended up paying her off to subside the stress that she inflicts & hurting a perfectly good breeding program by falsely tarnishing their name, not to mention trying to save their poor puppies from this lady. From here on out I am done with posting to this ridiculous site that allows false allegations & abusers like Mrs. Womack to continue to do this to good breeders & honest people. I have been breeding the Shih Tzu for over 9 years now & have not  once  had a puppy or adult with a congenital eye issue or problem, until Elonda's crazy claims that to date have not been backed up or valid. If there were a problem, I not only would stand by my guarantee of getting a replacement puppy if all the terms of the contract were met, but I would also not continue to breed a dog throwing a problem or hold back for my own program.  As for Mrs. Womack's statement of " you don't want me to spill the beans about some of the dogs in your breeding program." Mrs. Womack you have NOTHING of the same lines in your "pets" that are even remotely related to any of my breeding dogs. Get your facts straight! From here on out I plan on meeting with my attorney concerning Mrs. Womack & in what direction to proceed in from here. 
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What about????

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

And Calley neither you nor Sue have anything to say about Satchels bad overbite. I have questioned you on that one, how can that be MY fault? Would you breed a dog with a bite like that?????? And where is Stitch at now, if he is so perfect, why do you not still have him?????? A male that tiny, if her were as perfect as you say, I don't really think you would have placed him.


I think you ladies are running out of excuses.

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drs report dated June 1, 2009

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

My scannner is currently not working, but I am writing word for word the letter from the specialist that was sent to Ms Razo on June 1 2009, when I demanded my refund of $500 for her waiting list for the third puppy, of which she says she didn't want me to have, but the truth is I did not want. This letter was typed on letterhead from MedVet Eye center for Pets and is the same practice that Riser was taken to, only has merged with Dr Ketrings practice. All Animal Eye Center. This letter is available and you can contact me thru my website at Classypawsshihtzus.com if you would like to see it. This letter states CLEARLY this condition is CONGENITAL.


June 1, 2009


To Whom it may concern:


This concerns Elonda Womack with Riser the Shih Tzu


Birthdate: 7/19/08 - Male


Riser the male Shih-Tzu listed above had a congenital dry eye. This led to the corneal disease and enucleation.


Sincerely,


K Ketring DVM DACVO

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what a nut

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Calley Satchel has been treated for this before. THis is NOT The first time. I will take him back AGAIN for her to see and diagnose this SAME condition AGAIN, for you to do NOTHING, what I meant was with this trip to the vet, We are sueing you in court for BOTH dogs, not just Satchel. I think anyone that reads this report knows what the "true" story is here. I have had MANY people email and tell me that it is very apparent this puppy is not breeding quality just by looking at those pics. So its your reputation, I already have one person that has a deposit with you that is VERY nervous about it now. So as long as you want to keep this up, we will. See you soon.
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PLEASE GET SATCHEL INTO A VET OR RETURN HIM TO ME!

AUTHOR: Calley - (USA)



Elonda just sent this email to me today, she just busted herself in her own lie here. I thought Satchel had already been diagnosed?

Re: Satchel?













From: Elonda
Sent: Sun 9/06/09 11:15 AM
To: Calley 



Calley, Why would I spend more money on Satchel at the vets when I spent almost $600 on Riser and you did NOTHING. My husband said tell you, We will take him and get a diagnosis, but ONLY to take you to court for BOTH dogs.

 

Regards

Elonda



What??? Today I get this email from you that after ALL your claims with Satchel you still have not even taken him into the vet to be treated or diagnosed. First off it was bad enough you hadn't taken him for over 3 wks from your first email & have yet to have him seen. Don't keep letting Satchel suffer. It's apparent something needs to be done here. 
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PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE SELLING OR BUYING FROM ANYONE!

AUTHOR: Susan - (USA)

Calley Razo has been my business partner and friend for years. She is truly one of the most honest, ethical and fair people anyone would ever want to know.
Her adorable Shih Tzus are unequivocally the highest quality, healthy, most correct available ANYWHERE.
 
Elonda Womack was offered a replacement puppy her pick off of our co-own list before we had seen any proof what so ever from any veterinarian. We were just going off of her word, until, as usual, Elonda went off the deep end. Because of Elondas lack of patients and rationality and her spontaneous personality we decided it would not be in our best interest and honestly, the best interest of one of our puppies to just take her word for it. Both Satchel and Riser were in perfect health and structure when they were adopted and sent to Elonda. There are weekly pictures from birth, veterinary exams, and emails from Elonda after receiving them to back this up. This has happened time and timeand time again with Elonda. If anyone is questioning the truth of this just do a search in both your search engine and rip off report and see how many times this has come up with Mrs. Womack. This is not even taking into account all the times Mrs. Womack has filed reports against others. I can not imagine how many of them there are.
 
Please, please do your research before selling ..or buying.. for that matter from anyone. I should have known better and should have done more research, and listened to othersplease learn from my mistake.
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PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE SELLING OR BUYING FROM ANYONE!

AUTHOR: Susan - (USA)

Calley Razo has been my business partner and friend for years. She is truly one of the most honest, ethical and fair people anyone would ever want to know.
Her adorable Shih Tzus are unequivocally the highest quality, healthy, most correct available ANYWHERE.
 
Elonda Womack was offered a replacement puppy her pick off of our co-own list before we had seen any proof what so ever from any veterinarian. We were just going off of her word, until, as usual, Elonda went off the deep end. Because of Elondas lack of patients and rationality and her spontaneous personality we decided it would not be in our best interest and honestly, the best interest of one of our puppies to just take her word for it. Both Satchel and Riser were in perfect health and structure when they were adopted and sent to Elonda. There are weekly pictures from birth, veterinary exams, and emails from Elonda after receiving them to back this up. This has happened time and timeand time again with Elonda. If anyone is questioning the truth of this just do a search in both your search engine and rip off report and see how many times this has come up with Mrs. Womack. This is not even taking into account all the times Mrs. Womack has filed reports against others. I can not imagine how many of them there are.
 
Please, please do your research before selling ..or buying.. for that matter from anyone. I should have known better and should have done more research, and listened to othersplease learn from my mistake.
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AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Below is Ms Razos email to me on Sept 5th 2009. Now mind you I spent $600 on the first dog that had the eye problem, and she still did nothing about it. I am sure she wants him back to resell him to someone else, while I get nothing for my $1600 that I paid for him. WRONG.................


Note: This procedure Satchel needs is NOT an emergency as Ms Razo makes it out to be. His eyelashes are rubbing his cornea which LONG term, will cause injury to the cornea. I am putting ointment in the eyes per my vets intsructions, this is a condition that comes and goes, so its not like this puppy is in constant pain. He is however not breedable as this can be passed on to his puppies, along with his HORRIBLE bite issue.


 


Elonda,



Satchel must be surrendered back to me at anytime you are unwilling or unable to care for him as per our contract. You must ship him back to me at your expense with all AKC documentation & medical records if any. No monies will be refunded at any time! No replacements will be given for your surrender of Satchel to me, as no congenital issues has been diagnosed by a licensed vet.  I will make arrangements to pick Satchel up when you have him shipped back. The Sooner the better if he is requiring vet care or a procedure that is not being taken care of by yourself for whatever the reason.




Calley


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Returning Satchel

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Calley since you don't take my calls, nor answer my emails, I thought maybe you would read this. WHEN do you want Satchel shipped back to you????????????????????
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false statement

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Mrs Razo states above that I was "offered" a puppy named Copper. Yes I was "offered" that puppy, BUT not as a replacement puppy, she offered her to me for sale. Every puppy I chose from her litters was not on the "co-owned" list. How convenient for her. She calls me a liar, I think its clear to see here who the "real" liar is.

 I want everyone to know I am not doing this report out of spite but so people can see what some of these breeders do to others. I have put out almost $4000 in puppies here and have nothing that I can breed. I have purchased dogs from many reputable breeders and they have worked great with me to get me exactly what I want with the quality I want, for the amount that I spend. This has to come to an end.

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This is not a game

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Calley, you know by having your name removed from my ad on puppyfind that Satchel is not breeding material, which is what I paid $1600 for. EVERYONE that has saw those pics have sent me an email stating how bad that pupppy looks, I am FOREVER putting ointment in his eyes to keep them looking halfway decent. NO I am not spending more money on a dog that you bred, YOU need to send me my money back and I will at that point send this puppy back to you. You have had that info removed on puppyfind because you know he is bad and you don't want people knowing what your up to.  I have asked you nicely to do something about this, I have now filed a claim in small claims court in your state, I am waiting for paperwork. I do not intend to argue with you over this dog. NO I am not sending Satchel back before i am reimbursed. We will just let the court decide from here. The proof is in the pics and i am happy to supply them to anyone that wants to see them, If you were so concerned about Satchel as you act like you are here, then why haven't you accepted my calls or emails. You are ignoring me hoping I will go away. Well its NOT going to happen.
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Concerning Satchel

AUTHOR: Calley - (USA)

First time anything was brought up about Satchel squinting or anything to do with his eyes was in this email dated 8/9/2009 & she is coming up with her own diagnosis without taking him into a vet. Here is my reply. I also received a voicemail & emails on 8/26/09 stating she was taking him into the vet on 8/31/09 to be checked because her vet was out of town. This is  OVER 3 WEEKS  after she first mention of him squinting. If this were really a concern, I would have him in to the vet immediately on an emergency or into another vets office if mine were on vacation to have his eyes checked. Eyes are not something to mess with and can get serious if not treated right away. This is  NEGLECT  not to get him in! Although he had not been seen or diagnosed at this point she still claims to have proof of a vet or specialist diagnosis of a congenital eye issue on Rip off report which is an outright lie!  RE: Satchel? From: Calley  (fairytail@q.com) Sent: Mon 8/10/09 9:56 AM To: (((Redacted))) 3 attachments Elonda, I would like to remind you of the terms in your contract with me for Satchel. It states that you can not sell or give him away to anyone  else under any circumstance. He must be surrendered to me with all AKC documentation, & medical records etc. Here is that statement from the contract: ( I am also including another copy of your signed contract in case you have lost or misplaced the first .)  If for any reason buyer(s) are unable to keep or care for this puppy/dog at any time during it's life, buyer(s) must surrender the puppy/dog to the seller with all the registration documents and medical records, etc.  Buyer(s) agrees not to sell or give the puppy/dog away to anyone else under any circumstance!   No monies will be refunded at any time for any reason.  As far as "making this good with you". I have always told you I stand behind my contract/health guarantee. Please read through the terms of the contract again so that you understand it clearly, let me know if you have any questions. As of right now you are making assumptions about entropia & nothing has been diagnosed as a congenital defect which adversely affects the health of this dog by a licensed veterinarian. I find it hard to believe that Satchel's bite is way off as you describe when  EVERY  dog I own has a correct bite. But regardless of your reason for not wanting to keep Satchel. He must be returned to me as agreed to in our contract. You have no idea what my co-ownership arrangements or terms were on my past dogs that have been placed so please quit making assumptions as to why you  think  they were placed. Calley From:(((Redacted))) To: fairytail@q.com Subject: Satchel Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:08:57 -0400 Calley just wanted to let you know Satchel is being placed as pet, His bite is WAY off, his tongue sticks out constantly. His squints all the time and his eyes water so that denotes he has entropia. I know from before you will do nothing about this, I am sure that is why you have placed Stitch, but I am telling you because as you know I spent a lot of money on both these dogs from you to get this kind of quality. I will not keep this quiet. It is a shame that I thought I could trust you, only to find out you are just as bad if not worse than others. At least breeders that have sold me dogs that could not be bred are making it good with me.   Elonda   Now here is the puppy find ad where she is trying to pawn off a supposed inexpensive surgery to a new owner instead of taking care of this poor boy herself for her own personal leverage in trying to make it look like it's a result of my breeding.  THIS IS NEGLECT & ABUSIVE Elonda & if your not willing to do this surgery yourself if he really needs it than send him to back to me so I can make sure he's being taken care of. Don't put poor Satchel out to suffer for your own personal gain!!!     Satchel    Breed: Chinese Imperial Sex: Male Birthdate: 12-22-2008 (8 Months) Champion bloodlines: Yes Champion sired: No Price: $0 USD   Buy with confidence Shipping area: United States What's included: Registered/registerable (AKC, NKC, etc.), Current vaccinations, Veterinarian examination, Pedigree Additional information: He has some eye issues and an overbite and cannot be used in our breeding program, as we only want to breed the best of the best. He would make a great little pet for someone. Please call if you need an explanation of his eyes and I would be happy to explain. THere is a surgical procedure to help the condition and it is not very expensive. He is a perfect pet, just not breeding material. Please call or email with any questions. We will be very picky where he goes AND NO BREEDERS PLEASE.   Seller       Read reviews   Contact seller Elonda W


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Concerning Riser

AUTHOR: Calley - (USA)







Mrs. Womack states below that Riser will need drops in his eyes for the rest of his life because both eyes were not producing tears which would be true if the condition was truly a congenital defect.













From: Elonda Womack (tzulady@etczone.com)
Sent: Mon 11/03/08 9:03 AM
To: Calley (fairytail@q.com)



Surgery is the only thing that will save the eye, but he will have to have eye drops for the rest of his life. I know another girl that has one that she did the surgery but still has to put drops in her eye everyday. 













From: Elonda Womack (tzulady@etczone.com)
Sent: Mon 11/03/08 8:31 PM
To: Calley (fairytail@q.com)



Calley it may take me a couple weeks to get the other 250 with just spending the $300 today at the specialist but I will get it to you.

 

I forgot to tell you that they did the tear test with the strips, I asked my husband if they only did the test on one eye (the bad one) and he said no they did both and he is not producing enough tears in either eye, it was just the left eye that got infected from it. One thing on the long list of protocol is a lubricant, I am praying that by using that it will start him to producing tears. I am going to take him to my vet, once he has been on this regimine for a while, she can do the strip test again to see if he has improved, she has done it on another one of my dogs a couple years ago.

 

Please keep the prayers coming.

 

Elonda



Now Mrs. Womack claims he is suddenly producing tears now that she found him a home. This leads me to believe the dry eye was really from the injury like she'd originally stated in her initial email. 













From: Elonda Womack (tzulady@etczone.com)
Sent: Fri 2/20/09 12:51 PM
To: Calley (fairytail@q.com)



yes I just found a PERFECT home for Riser on Sunday and took him back to the specialist to make sure he was producing tears in his good eye before they took him, He is producing good in that eye now, and I told them to watch it. They are a retired couple that travel in the RV, so he will be a traveling dog. They love him. The little stinker was 11 1/2 lbs when he went to the specialist. My husband is very happy with who is went to, although it was very hard for  him to let go, he knows I have my hands full here with breeding and wanted the best for Riser, that he be in a one pet owner home and get all the attention.

Riser was returned to Mrs. Womack after being placed in his first pet home. 















From:
Elonda Womack (tzulady@etczone.com)
Sent: Sat 2/28/09 12:55 PM
To: Calley (fairytail@q.com)



Hi Calley, just wanted to let you know Satchel is doing great! He acts as if he has been here his whole life, been snoozing a lot today on hubbys stomach on the sofa. LOL. (Another football buddy)

 

I forgot to tell you Riser is back, the lady is having some issues with her kids, they lost their dad last year, he had a massive heart attack at 38 years old. And the kids are REALLY having a hard time and she is having so many problems with them she said it was just more than she could handle right now, they even fought over the dog, I said well I really don't want Riser around the fighting, as she told me he was scared alot with them screaming, so I told her I wanted to bring him back, She really hated to let him go, she said she just adored him and he was good therapy for her, but she just felt like right now, she needed to put all her concentration on the kids. I agree with her. So we will probably not be placing him anymore, hubby said he did not want to keep moving him from home to home.

 

Have a great weekend. Have you decided on which of Ellas girls you are keeping. They are both so adorable.

 

ELonda

This is about the time that Mrs. Womack got angry about not being able to adopt 2 different babies that were not available to the co-own list she wanted them to be offered on. She then turns around to claim Risers dry eye was congenital & not from an injury. She also started in with her threats, multiple emails, & slanderous statements. Below is proof of our email sent to Mrs. Womack stating very clearly we would stand behind our contract/ health guarantee (that all parties read & agreed to prior to Riser being adopted) if valid proof of a congenital defect was given & all the terms of the contract were met...INCLUDING clearly stating Riser must be sent back to us which Mrs. Womack states we never did. 




















From: Calley (fairytail@q.com)
Sent: Sun 5/10/09 12:13 AM
To: Elonda Womack (tzulady@etczone.com)
Cc: Susan (susbr1@hotmail.com)











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Elonda,
I am not sure of what is going on with you or possibly who your talking to (in response to your repeated emails referencing talking with others) but your statements are false & emails are offensive. Sue & I have never been provided 
any proof that Riser's eye problem was a congenital defect
 as covered under our health guarantee/contract, but still we were bending over backwards to work with you in getting the breeding dog you set out to get. We felt you were taking good care of sweet Riser & we would try to do what we could because we felt sorry for your situation, even though no valid proof was ever given.  It's apparent now that even after our over & beyond the call of duty efforts, you still are not happy, so both Sue & I feel the best thing to do from here is to strictly follow the terms of the contract we have with you on Riser. I know I emailed you a copy prior to your deposit being sent in & you were also sent a copy with Riser's crate the day of shipping, but incase you have lost it, I have attached it to this email (attachment #1 & 2) for your reference so you will know what steps need to be taken to qualify for a replacement puppy.


1- Proof of examination by your licensed vet within 2 business days from the date of delivery which was 9/16/08 to even make the health guarantee valid.

2- A signed letter from a licensed veterinarian diagnosing an actual congenital defect.
3- If steps 1 & 2 are legit. Then the puppy/dog must be returned to us with all AKC documentation & a replacement puppy of equal dollar value of the sellers choice will be sent when one is available.
4- All fees associated with shipping for the sale or replacement are your sole responsibility.

I wanted to respond to this email you sent yesterday. The asterisk comes before and after my responses.
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Re: Regarding $800 SALE?















From: Elonda Womack (tzulady@etczone.com)
Sent: Fri 5/08/09 5:30 PM
To: Calley (fairytail@q.com)



Calley I will say that you told me in an email it was no problem male or female, and it does seem quiet funny if this is not genetic that you have placed BOTH Reigna and Gurgi,

 

*BOTH Reina & Gurgi are still currently co-owned by me. Reina was placed with a new co-owner PRIOR to whelping her first litter (Risers litter). She did not leave my home until babies were weaned. There have been no known health issues, what so ever,  with Reina, Gurgi, and their litter (other than whatever happened with Riser).* 

 

 I dont think anyone wants to go there with me, I have been thru EVERYTHING with these breeders   so I am sure the reason that Copper was not available to me was that you wanted to sell her.

 

* this seems to be the problem...you are pulling in your past negative experiences. Up until now I have heard nothing but how happy you are with everything. Why would you say Copper was not available to you? I offered her to you prior to her being adopted.* I am happy to forward you a copy of the email.*

 

I know EXACTLY how that works, Been there before, but thought you were better than that I do have all the  emails saved if i should need them.


I think at this point, it would be in my best interest to contact the attorney general in your state, and for sure if you do not allow me to use my deposit on shipping as of now I do not want any puppy.

 

I am sorry but I am VERY hot about this and others have told me they would be as well, so others are finding out about this deal.

 

*DO NOT THREATEN/SLANDER EITHER SUE OR MYSELF WITH THESE FALSE ACCUSATIONS! WE WILL CONTACT OUR ATTORNEY IMMEDIATELY IF NEED BE.*

 

ELonda


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I have attached pictures of Riser that were taken by me & sent to you on 9/13/2008 only 3 days prior to when you received him. You can plainly see his tearing in his fur from his eyes in all 3 pictures. They are in attachment # 3 & 4.The very first mention of Riser having any issue with his eye was in this email from you below dated 10/30/08 which you stated Whisper had scratched his eye.
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Re: Waiting list?
















From: Elonda Womack (tzulady@etczone.com)
Sent: Thu 10/30/08 7:06 PM
To: Calley (fairytail@q.com)



Hi Calley that is just fine. I am sorry, I didn't get back sooner but I had to take mr Riser to the vet, Whisper scratched his eye and I was freaking. Does Persia play real rough? Little Whisper thinks she is a rottweiler LOL, Anyway she gave him so antibiotic and eye drops. I hope it gets better in a day or two. Those two just love playing with each other, but she is such a little roughie

 

Thanks 

ELonda

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To date Sue nor I have received any vet statement claiming that Riser had a congenital defect.The only letter you sent us was this letter (attachment #5)  that states he had predisposed dry eye. (Meaning he had it before you took him in to this Dr. not that it was congenital)...the letter was dated on Nov. 24 2008 over one month AFTER you had told me that he had his eye scratched by Whisper.
Here are the definitions from yourdictionary.com to show the actual meaning of predisposed vs. congential for your clarification:

predispose definition



to dispose, or make receptive, beforehand; make susceptible


congenital definition 


1. existing as such at birth congenital disease


2. existing as if inborn; inherent congenital cheerfulness


 


Unfortunaltely, it's come down to this and Sue & I both feel the best way to handle this for all parties involved would be to follow the written & signed contract/health guarantee.



Calley & Sue



 

Here is a copy of the email I sent to Dr. K Ketring which I received no response back from him nor his staff, trying to verifying the letter I received on 6/10/09 was legit. (It was received over 7 months after Riser's initial vet examination to do with his eye & many things were different in the letter head so I wanted to be certain it was real.)



Attn: Dr. K. Ketring D.V.M?














From: Calley (fairytail@q.com)
Sent: Mon 6/22/09 10:00 AM
To: info@medvet-cves.com


Dear Dr. Ketring,

I am writing in regards to a letter I received on June 10, 2009 from Elonda Womack in regards to Riser a blue male shih tzu born 7/19/2008. The letter was on your office letter head but there was no address or telephone #'s on the letter I received, so I wanted to validate that it was in fact a legit letter from you.
 
In this letter you had stated that Riser had a congenital dry eye that led to corneal disease and enucleation.  Could you please tell me how you came to the conclusion of this diagnosis being that it was a congential issue & not caused from injury as Mrs. Womack had stated to me previously in this email below dated 10/30/08 prior to your initial examination?
 
 Re: Waiting list?

















From: Elonda Womack (tzulady@etczone.com)
Sent: Thu 10/30/08 7:06 PM
To: Calley (fairytail@q.com)



Hi Calley that is just fine. I am sorry, I didn't get back sooner but I had to take mr Riser to the vet, Whisper scratched his eye and I was freaking. Does Persia play real rough? Little Whisper thinks she is a rottweiler LOL, Anyway she gave him so antibiotic and eye drops. I hope it gets better in a day or two. Those two just love playing with each other, but she is such a little roughie

 

Thanks

ELonda

We are also concerned after speaking with a licensed vetrinarian in our area that there can be many causes for dry eye including injury, sulpha medication (such as albon) etc. There was no history of any dry eye in the sire or dam or their lineage that I am aware of or in their other 4 puppies in the litter & in fact no history with Riser the male shih tzu in question when he was at my home. I have many pictures of him (weekly) showing both of his eyes were tearing.  If this were congenital wouldn't he of had dry eyes from the time he was a young puppy & not just develop them later?

 

We have a health guarantee/contract with Mrs. Womack & want to follow the terms of our agreement but would like to be absolutely certain of Risers diagnosis.

 

Thank you for your time,



Calley Razo & Sue Barto 
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deposit on third puppy

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Anyone who would like to see the pics of the second puppy and how bad of quality this puppy turned out to be. go to www.puppyfind.com they are listed in the chinese imperial section, his name is Satchel.


Ms Razo states above that SHE refunded the deposit on the 3rd puppy due to HER not wanting me to have another one of her puppies. NO the real truth is she was sent a certified letter from me stating my intentions of taking her to court. It wasn't until then that I received my deposit back.

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specialist that diagnosed this puppy

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Ms Razo has stated that the letter sent to her from the specialist is a "fake" this is far from the truth. This facility is state of the art and I would think a specialist in this field would know far more about the eyes than a vet, in fact my vet was the one that referred me to him.


I paid approx $600 total including the necessary surgery to remove this puppys eye as it was close to rupturing. It was I that had to endure the pain of seeing him with no eye and feeling so bad for him, (Mrs Razo did you forget me calling you that day in tears) then in the end I placed him for free in a good pet home because I was in need of a breeding dog. Not once did Ms Razo ask me to send this puppy back to her. In fact I have emails where she said she was happy that I had found him a good home.


Ms Razo also states that she "thinks" this conditon was caused by one of my other dogs scratching the eye. In the beginning I did think that could be a possibility as I did also have another puppy that I had just purchased and the two played together and sometimes was rough, but the specialist (Dr Ketring) after doing a tear strip test and other testing assured me, their were no scratches on the cornea, it was congenital dry eye caused from the puppy not producing enough tears and it is highly likely it would be passed on to his offspring, so he advised against breeding.


Ms Razo has also said my emails were harrssing, etc. I have been very nice that I have not pushed this issue when she refused to do anything about this, male, so when the other turned out with an eye issue, yes indeed I am irate and fully intend to pursue this to the fullest. BUT I have been cordial in emails and today tried to call her to discuss the issue by phone as sometimes emails are not the way to handle these things, but again she did not answer, nor return my call. This puppy is going back to the vet on Monday, Aug 31st to get this in writing. At that point I will make my decision as to which direction I will be taking.


The specialist that diagnosed this condition is Dr. Kerry L Ketring, his practice is All animal Eye clinic (now Med Vet) in Cincinnati Oh, phone number is (513)683-7703. www.allanimaleyeclinic.com.


I am praying for a peaceful end to this problem.

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Proof

AUTHOR: Elonda - (U.S.A.)

Calley I am NOT going to argue with you on this report. I have proof from vets and specialist RIser eye was indeed bad and congenital. I have ALL proof including pics of these dogs should anyone want to see them. Other breeders already have seen them and can definately tell this dogs eye is bad. Go ahead and make your false claims you will just get laughed at when I meet you in court. You will be getting ANOTHER letter by certified mail next week on this dogs eye. I don't think you want me to spill the beans on some of the dogs in your breeding program, Remeber I do have PET only babies from those same lines and I can guarantee they are NOT breeding quality. I have proof of that too.
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Elonda Womack is in the market to slander good breeders. Fairy Tail Shih Tzu stands behind her puppies.

AUTHOR: Calley - (USA)

These claims above are false & slanderous. In fact I have MANY emails from Mrs. Womack talking about how wonderful both puppies are & in fact had received a 3rd deposit for another puppy (which was refunded due to me not wanting her to have another one of my precious babies when I saw her true colors.) because she was so happy with both babies she adopted at different times from me. I was fore warned about Mrs. Womack's reputation with breeders & how she makes up stories of health issues, gets irrational, slanderous, & down right nasty,  but felt I would not judge her by all those claims but rather make my own opinions. I can tell you. I HAVE MADE A MISTAKE in doing business with her!!! I got an email from Mrs. Womack saying the first dog had his eye scratched from one of her other dogs that she claims has a temperament of a rottweiler, that later led to him developing severe dry eye from the injury.  Mrs. Womack has not followed the terms of the contract/health guarantee in having him first checked by a licensed vet within 2 business days of receiving him, sent a written veterinarian statement stating the condition is congenital within 48 hours of diagnosis, nor sent him back to me to get a replacement if that were really the case. I did get a letter over 7 months after the incident but it was missing a vet #, address, & email, & did not look the same as the first letter I received saying he had dry eye which can be caused from trauma or medication. I emailed the Dr. to verify that it was a legit letter & got no reply from the vet or his office. The second baby she is speaking of has not even been taken into the vet as of yet nor has any congenital issue been diagnosed. I stand behind my contract/health guarantee. But, I WILL NOT COVER NEGLECT OR ABUSE caused from either Mrs. Womack nor her dogs. I have weekly pictures of both of these puppies from birth showing plenty of tearing, no tongue hanging out, & eyes bright & clear, so this makes me wonder about some type of accident or trauma that has occured. Your right Mrs. Womack I am ignoring most of your emails & only respond when I need to. Most of your emails are threatening, harassing, slanderous, & FALSE and I choose to not get caught up in your drama. Type in Elonda Womack in a google search & you can see for yourself her numerous claims against many other breeders & that the true victims here are the poor puppies she is adopting.
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