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Complaint Review: Catwells Persians - lincolnton North Carolina

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  • Reported By: Pauline — Jacksonville North Carolina
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  • Catwells Persians 1711 Furnace Rd exit lincolnton, North Carolina USA

Catwells Persians Pam Atwell Beware Dishonest Persian Cat Breeder lincolnton North Carolina

*Author of original report: I stand by my honest report about Catwells

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: I did not rip off Pauline S****

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I contacted this breeder, Pam Atwell,  in NC to purchase a CEW kitten she was touting as CFA registered, that she has been a long-standing  breeder.

After numerous emails and conversations, I bought a copper-eyed white male pet kitten from her.

I paid in full, cashier's check, and even paid for gas for her car to meet me, as she asked a few days before the meeting for me to "spring for the gas".

I complied with all in the written and signed contract of having said kitten vetted, and neutered, and THEN would receive the "blue slip" in order to register the kitten as mine in the Cat Fancy Association.

When I provided proof of neuter, Pam Atwell then disclosed "I never registered the litter".....the kitten is now 9 mos.  I asked her to do so and her reply was.."all the other buyers don't care if they get one".....in other words.....FRAUD. 

She never intended to provide me with a blue slip for registering my new kitten, and evaded my emails as to getting it done.

Breach of contract and fraud and deceptive trade practices.....I want all TO BEWARE OF THE DISHONESTY at Catwells Cattery....who touts herself as  "religious woman"...a "renewed Christian.....

Beware and shop around.....never trust a breeder who does not provide the blue slip first.  This is being pursued legally as well.  Beware!

 

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I stand by my honest report about Catwells

AUTHOR: Pauline - ()

POSTED: Wednesday, August 07, 2013

First off, the star italics of my LATE HUSBAND'S NAME was done so by Ms Atwell for a purpose, but I shall not fall to that level myself.  BY doing so she speaks volume of HER character...My late husband was a Marine who died on active duty years ago for his country, while in Beirut.  Much respect for that sacrifice for us all. These cats are my family.

I asked Ms Atwell over and over as to WHAT DOCUMENTATION I needed for her as PROOF of neuter...she evaded the answer in ALL emails before the neuter.  I have the proof. The night before, I called as a last resort as I would need it from the vet.  Again," my back, my back, don't know, will see", and then, crocodile tears.  Funny how someone can go travel, swimming, have MIchaela a grandchild, all week, 4 litters down, and ONLY when I asked for how to proceed am I getting all these excuses and no firm answers to secure a blue slip.  Nothing new in 9 months time. She told me I did not need to offer proof at this point. To forget it. But I respect what we agreed on from day one.

Therefore....I sent the copy of the vet's neuter bill, as proof....via iphone to her email that afternoon. No one will ever say I did not follow their signed contract.

I never had issues with a contract....SHE DISPLAYS IT ON HER WEBSITE. If I had issues, of course I wouldn't have contacted her to buy a kitten.  I had issues with the evasive behavior and constant excuses and lack of action and answers. She wanted me to neuter after 6 months rather than the 4 month/5 pound ability vets can do.  I respected her and did exactly that....she then QUESTIONED in that call I made.."why did you wait this long?"...nothing a new owner will do will EVER be right no matter if you follow the contract to the letter. She questioned everything my vet did or what we talked of. She wanted me to call her for medical care rather than the vet first should an emergency arise. No.

Litter registration is all electronic on CFA now....yes, THAT I did not know.  Oh...and it takes just minutes to print out!! MY goodness!  So why mail me my blue slip?  It can be emailed to me....from what she indicated....so she says she mailed it....so that she can say in the future "it got lost in the mail?"...

In any event, ALL I REALLY NEEDED was the registration numbers of the sire and dam.....but could not get THA INFO  either....so you see, I tried on all avenues to work with Catwells, and thus, this report was filed.

As a retired nurse, I also listened to how many pain killers she was on, from new doctor and old, and still she sought new doctors. We oftentimes recognize this as "doctor shopping" due to pain killer addictions actually.  Because when I referred her to a specialist, she said she had had surgery, only to find out the truth ...new pills, new higher doses and no surgery. 

She is often on Facebook, when she said she was down and out, it logs in your time when you put things on...she also attacked other breeders to me. Sad.  Cause some think she is a friend.

In closing, I spoke to several  world-renowned breeders, and they say that they hand the blue slip at sale, because on it is already no breeding rights checked off....therefore any litters would not be registrable...and that suffices to prove the point. My past purchases I had the blue slip at time of sale, neutered them, no problems...the BREEDERS advised me to NEVER buy a cat again UNLESS a blue slip at time of sale is given me.  And these breeders mocked the practice of withholding it until neuter. Again...I complied per the contract. I live by...always doing the right thing!!

 

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I did not rip off Pauline S****

AUTHOR: Pamela - ()

POSTED: Wednesday, August 07, 2013

I am appauled at this report. It was reported by Pauline S**** that I ripped her off. She asked me if I had registered the litter in which her kitten was a part of and I said I did not know. I would have to check on line to see if I had. I have had allot of back problems and had gotten behind in some of my paperwork. I assured her she would get the registration paper as soon as she showed proof of the neuter. She got so irate with me that I was very upset.

I was in bed at the time in an extreme amount of pain, but I told her I would go into the computer in the other room and check my records. I explained to her that I could register the litter in a matter of minutes. She said she did not know that. This kitten had not even been neutered at this point, but had an appointment the next day. After checking my records, I found the litter had been registered. I printed off the blue slip and had it in the mail before I even saw the proof I required.

Miss S**** is probably holding the blue slip in her hand right now. I made a special trip to the post office to get it in the mail the same day the cat was neutered. This is a practice of many breeders, not to give the blue slip until proof of spay or neutered as there are allot of dishonest people out there that will breed the cat. My vet does not do early spay or neuter so all I ask is for proof once they are old enough, which I tell my buyers I prefer it done at 6 months. Miss Shipp knew this when she bought the kitten. If she had a problem with this she should not have purchased a kitten from me.

If anyone would like more imformation and any refferances on me please feel free to email me at patwell@bellsouth.net. I have plenty of happy buyers. Anyone can check with CFA to see how many litters I have register in the last 15 years. All my litters are registered.

I have never seen a person turn on someone just because I could not say 100% that a litter was registered. She is a very troubled person and I will keep her in my prayers I gave her no reason to believe she would not get the registeration paper on this cat.

 

 

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