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  • Submitted: Wed, April 15, 2009
  • Updated: Mon, May 14, 2012

  • Reported By: Jimmyjames — Phoenix Arizona U.S.A.
Chase/Wells Fargo/Bank Of America/ Et Al
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Chase/Wells Fargo/Bank Of America/ Et Al Manipulation of Transaction Data in order to charge Fees Nationwide

*Consumer Comment: Jimmyjames,

*Consumer Comment: PROTESTER SONG 92

*Consumer Comment: JAYPEE MORGIN POEM

*Consumer Comment: *****NATIONWIDE BANK ALERT: MAKE SURE TO TYPE IN 453956 AT THIS SITE AND READ.......

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jim from Anaheim

*Consumer Comment: PROTESTER SONG 84....... just type in 431507 at this site...

*Consumer Comment: PROTESTER SONG 81

*Consumer Comment: "SPECULATE OIL FOREVER" is the title to PROTESTER SONG 78. Just type in 833276 at this site........

*Consumer Comment: LIGHT SWEET CRUDE.....

*Consumer Comment: GAS IS TOO HIGH.....

*Consumer Comment: Encore presentation of- ORGANIZED CRIME SYNDICATE POEM

*Consumer Comment: OP, OP, OP, WHERE ARE YOU?

*Consumer Comment: Waste of a Report

*Consumer Comment: Waste of a Report

*Consumer Comment: Waste of a Report

*Consumer Comment: Waste of a Report

*Consumer Comment: Mabart...

*Consumer Comment: Nothing remotely 'antiquated' about it.

*Consumer Comment: Why force consumers to use antiquated methods ?

*Consumer Comment: ACCORDING TO A DOCUMENTARY BY AARON RUSSO THERE ARE.......

*UPDATE Employee: Keep..........

*Consumer Comment: It's hard to imagine...

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I have noticed for sometime how the programs that control the organization and display of account data ( in this instance I refer solely to checking accounts) shift the order of transactions in order to attempt to create scenarios in which accounts become overdrawn and subsequently being charged outrageous fees by the banks.

For a long time I thought perhaps I was being over imaginative until I started printing daily account reports ( one in the AM and one in late evening close to midnight) and low and behold there it was : a regular shifting of transactions sequential order especially dependent on the amount of money in the account. For example the closer the account balance got to zero the more manipulation there is, a transaction that would show on your report in the morning would suddenly be absent from the late night report.

Also in accounts that recieved direct deposits there would be a marked increase in manipulation of transactions within 48-72 hours prior to the deposit being executed. If you have accounts at any of the aforementioned banks, use your debit/check card with regularity, have a computer, have thought there was something peculiar about the fact that the bank always seemed to able to hit you with an overdraft fee no matter how meticulous your book-keeping, and are just sick and tired of banks and credit card companies using us all like endentured servants, then start accumulating some research to prove the banks fraudulent intent.

Get yourself in the habit of printing two account reports daily ( one at approx. 6:00 AM and one about 10-11:00 PM ). They take less than 2 minutes and don't have to be a full multi page transactional report but just the "screen" where your transactions from the previous day are dispalyed. Also if you've noticed the things I mention in this article or other similar occurrences please post it and/or contact me. We, the people must hunt down and punish the financial shysters who for years have utilized their enormous amounts of shysted monies to buy the prostitute-politician(s) who piece by piece took apart and destroyed the banking and insurance and financial regulations that took decades to enact.

The very regulations that allowed the middle-class to grow and be secure; and which gave the citizenry a modicum of protection. We, the people, must stop just plodding through our daily routines whilst the shysters suck more and more of our life blood with their arrogance and percieved omnipetance. Lets put the banks in check.

Jimmyjames
Phoenix, Arizona
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 04/15/2009 03:29 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/ChaseWells-FargoBank-Of-America-Et-Al/nationwide/ChaseWells-FargoBank-Of-America-Et-Al-Manipulation-of-Transaction-Data-in-order-to-char-443673. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Jimmyjames,

AUTHOR: Karl - ()

Please feel free to give us an update to your Ripoff Report when you have time. Thanks.

Happy Easter!
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#2 Consumer Comment

PROTESTER SONG 92

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

OUR WORLD IS IN A MESS
(Please sing to the tune of "I'd Love To Change The World")

Anyone can 'Google' this- I'D LOVE TO CHANGE THE WORLD MIDI, and sing the following lyrics to that midi tune, right?

Here we go- 1, 2, 3, 4....

JayPee Morgin's stock keeps falling
Global markets, tell us when will they all crash
Screw the poor, help the rich
Do it till the poor and Middle Class are gone?

Our world is in a mess
Politicians do not care
Most are very unaware

Brock O'Bomb-a ain't no leader
He's a puppet, working for the Wall Street gang

Our world is in a mess
Politicians do not care
Most are very unaware

(Music)

All markets will soon crash
Politicians do not know
Occupy movement will grow.

End.

In order to find out when the stock market will crash again, simply 'Google' this- A CREDIT CARD YOU WANT TO TOSS, and go to the BusinessWeek article from February 7, 2008, and scroll back to the comment that was posted on February 21, 2008 at 3:03 AM.
(The comment appears on, or around, 'Page 42' in the comments section.)

FACT: The stock market crashed seven months after that comment was posted. On September 29, 2008, the Dow Jones suffered its biggest one day loss in history. It lost 777 points on that day.

Anyone can 'Google' this- THE ASCENT OF MONEY PBS, and watch the episode entitled 'Bonds of War' on the web in order to understand what is happening, and what is about to happen all over the world.

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"Knowledge is power."

POWER TO THE PEOPLE
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#3 Consumer Comment

JAYPEE MORGIN POEM

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

JAYPEE MORGIN POEM

Lots of screaming
Too much yelling
JayPee Morgin
Stock was selling
Tumbled sharply
Please text Trent
JayPee's stock
Lost nine percent
End of poem
Song comes soon
JayPee Morgin
Big buffoon!

End.

Anyone can go to the CNNMoney website and type in the stock symbol for JP Morgan Chase, which is: JPM, and see that the stock lost 9.28% on Friday, May 11, 2012. There were over 217 Million shares traded yesterday, which is over six times its average volume.

Feel free to 'Google' this- AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM, and watch that video on the web. There is a picture of J.P. Morgan at around 1 minute and 2 seconds into that video.

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WELCOME TO AMERICA- OUR GOVERNMENT IS BEING CONTROLLED BY A CARTEL OF CORRUPT, GREEDY, AND INEPT BANKERS WHO ALSO CONTROL WALL STREET AND EVEN THE PRICE OF OIL
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#4 Consumer Comment

*****NATIONWIDE BANK ALERT: MAKE SURE TO TYPE IN 453956 AT THIS SITE AND READ.......

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

Jim's Ripoff Report for important information if you have money invested in a CD at any of the big banks in America, like Wells Fargo.

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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Jim from Anaheim

AUTHOR: appledroplarry - (United States of America)

Tell me again how you are not a piece of slime employed by Wells-Fargo to troll the internet attacking people with complaints against Wells-Fargo. This is the third  website against wells fargo that I have found you posting on in favor of wells-fargo. This is the 2nd complaint on THIS website I have found you on singing the praises of Wells-Fargo and attacking honest people. How much did you get for your soul???
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#6 Consumer Comment

PROTESTER SONG 84....... just type in 431507 at this site...

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

to see if it is available in the consumer comments section at Ripoff Report #431507. (The song has been composed and will be submitted soon.)

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WELCOME TO AMERICA- OUR GOVERNMENT IS BEING CONTROLLED BY A CARTEL OF CORRUPT, GREEDY, AND INEPT BANKERS WHO ALSO CONTROL WALL STREET AND EVEN THE PRICE OF OIL
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#7 Consumer Comment

PROTESTER SONG 81

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

BANKER GOONS DESTROYED OUR WORLD
(Please sing to the tune of "Jesus Christ Is Risen Today")

Anyone can 'Google' this- MIDI MUSIC CATHOLIC MIDI FROM TEXAS, and click on 'Jesus Christ is Risen Today' and sing the following lyrics to that midi tune, right?

Here we go- 1, 2, 3, 4....

Banker goons destroyed our world
Let's expose 'em here on the worldwide web
Tell each boy text every girl
Let's expose 'em here on the worldwide web
They control most governments
They manipulate the price of oil
Gasoline and food are much too high
Banker goons are greedy they must be exposed.

(Repeat 2X)

Anyone can 'Google' the following videos and watch them on the web for PROOF that a cartel of corrupt, greedy, and inept bankers control the U.S. Government, Wall Street, and even the price of oil-

1) FRONTLINE: INSIDE THE MELTDOWN

2) FULL SHOW: HOW BIG BANKS ARE REWRITING THE RULES OF OUR ECONOMY

3) AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM

4) FRONTLINE: THE WARNING

5) WHO CONTROLS THE UNITED STATES ECONOMY BY MAJORITY 2010

6) WHO OWNS THE FED BANK, WHO CONTROLS WHO VIDEO

7) YOUTUBE FALL OF THE REPUBLIC

8) EX-SALT LAKE MAYOR ROCKY ANDERSON FORMER DEMOCRACY NOW

9) DID SPECULATION FUEL OIL PRICE SWINGS

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#8 Consumer Comment

"SPECULATE OIL FOREVER" is the title to PROTESTER SONG 78. Just type in 833276 at this site........

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

to see if it is available in the consumer comments section at Ripoff Report #833276.

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#9 Consumer Comment

LIGHT SWEET CRUDE.....

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

is the title to PROTESTER SONG 71.

Just type in 496992 at this site and it appears in the consumer comments section at Ripoff Report #496992.

Anyone can 'Google' the following and watch the video and read the related articles on the web-

1) DID SPECULATION FUEL OIL PRICE SWINGS

2) U.S. IDENTIFIES VAST MINERAL RICHES IN AFGHANISTAN

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WELCOME TO AMERICA- OUR GOVERNMENT IS BEING CONTROLLED BY A CARTEL OF CORRUPT, GREEDY, AND INEPT BANKERS WHO ALSO CONTROL WALL STREET AND EVEN THE PRICE OF OIL, AND SINCE THESE BANKER GOONS CONTROL THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, WE CAN LOGICALLY CONCLUDE THAT THEY ALSO CONTROL THE U.S. MILITARY, AND THEY WANT TO GAIN CONTROL OF THE OIL IN IRAQ AND THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN MINERALS THAT LIE BENEATH THE GROUND IN AFGHANISTAN
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#10 Consumer Comment

GAS IS TOO HIGH.....

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

is the title to PROTESTER SONG 70.

The song was submitted at this website on March 20, 2012. Just type in 513480 at this site to see if it is available in the consumer comments section at Ripoff Report #513480.

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WELCOME TO AMERICA- OUR GOVERNMENT IS BEING CONTROLLED BY AN ORGANIZED CRIME SYNDICATE THAT ALSO CONTROLS WALL STREET, AND EVEN THE PRICE OF OIL
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#11 Consumer Comment

Encore presentation of- ORGANIZED CRIME SYNDICATE POEM

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

ORGANIZED CRIME SYNDICATE POEM

Golly-gee willakers Batman
The people are having a fit
The U.S. Federal government
Is an organized crime syndicate
What in the heck's going on
Pass me some biscuits and grit
It looks like the U.S. government
Is an organized crime syndicate
Sweet-smellin' limburger cheese
I think that it's time we both split
Gotta protect all the folks in America
From the organized crime syndicate
I guess that this poem is over
But you know that we're not gonna quit
Keep exposing the crooks in this country
The organized crime syndicate.

End.

Anyone can type in 683114 at this site and go to 'Consumer Comment #2' at Ripoff Report #683114 to see that the above poem was originally submitted on January 17, 2011.

The poem was inspired by a video that's available on the web. Anyone can 'Google' this- WHO OWNS THE FED BANK, WHO CONTROLS WHO VIDEO, and watch it. 

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"Knowledge is power."

POWER TO THE PEOPLE
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#12 Consumer Comment

OP, OP, OP, WHERE ARE YOU?

AUTHOR: Karl - (U.S.A.)

OP: I'm in the back-yard, Aunt Bee.

Aunt Bee: It's time to come inside and wash-up, and get ready for supper.

OP: Okay, Aunt Bee. What are we having?

Aunt Bee: We're having country-fried chicken with mashed potatoes & gravy, and sweet corn that Goober gave us yesterday.

OP: Oh WOW, Aunt Bee, that's my FAVORITE!!!

Aunt Bee: I know. Go wash-up. Your father will be here soon.

OP: Why is he late today?

Aunt Bee: He met with Batman & Robin, to try & figure out how to help all the people in the USA whose retirements, 401K's, IRA's , & pensions, could all be in jeopardy.

OP: Why would they be on Jeopardy?

Aunt Bee; No, not on the TV show- Jeopardy, but in jeopardy!

OP: Oh, I guess I interpreted what you said in the wrong way, just like MILLIONS of Americans have been interpreting the Federal Income Tax issue, huh?

Aunt Bee: That's right. Now go get washed-up for supper. I just heard the Batmobile pull in. Your father is home, with Batman & the boy-wonder.

OP: Can I invite Robin for a sleep-over tonight?

End.

P.S. 'Google' this- AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM, and watch it on the web!
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#13 Consumer Comment

Waste of a Report

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

The best method devised of tracking your balance requires zero technology: it's your own check register. Keep one and you'll never go through the idiotic effort this OP described. There is no system in the world that would keep better track of your own transactions than a check register. There is no bank that can EVER devise a system for its customers that's better than a check register.

Here is a simple truth: the bank (whichever one) should be the LAST party to know you overdrafted your account. If they have to tell you (you should be the FIRST to know you overdrated your account) about your account, then you're mismanaging your money and have essentially decided to hand your money to them. All the manipulation in the world can't overdraft your account. Only you as the account holder can do that.
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#14 Consumer Comment

Waste of a Report

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

The best method devised of tracking your balance requires zero technology: it's your own check register. Keep one and you'll never go through the idiotic effort this OP described. There is no system in the world that would keep better track of your own transactions than a check register. There is no bank that can EVER devise a system for its customers that's better than a check register.

Here is a simple truth: the bank (whichever one) should be the LAST party to know you overdrafted your account. If they have to tell you (you should be the FIRST to know you overdrated your account) about your account, then you're mismanaging your money and have essentially decided to hand your money to them. All the manipulation in the world can't overdraft your account. Only you as the account holder can do that.
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#15 Consumer Comment

Waste of a Report

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

The best method devised of tracking your balance requires zero technology: it's your own check register. Keep one and you'll never go through the idiotic effort this OP described. There is no system in the world that would keep better track of your own transactions than a check register. There is no bank that can EVER devise a system for its customers that's better than a check register.

Here is a simple truth: the bank (whichever one) should be the LAST party to know you overdrafted your account. If they have to tell you (you should be the FIRST to know you overdrated your account) about your account, then you're mismanaging your money and have essentially decided to hand your money to them. All the manipulation in the world can't overdraft your account. Only you as the account holder can do that.
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#16 Consumer Comment

Waste of a Report

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

The best method devised of tracking your balance requires zero technology: it's your own check register. Keep one and you'll never go through the idiotic effort this OP described. There is no system in the world that would keep better track of your own transactions than a check register. There is no bank that can EVER devise a system for its customers that's better than a check register.

Here is a simple truth: the bank (whichever one) should be the LAST party to know you overdrafted your account. If they have to tell you (you should be the FIRST to know you overdrated your account) about your account, then you're mismanaging your money and have essentially decided to hand your money to them. All the manipulation in the world can't overdraft your account. Only you as the account holder can do that.
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#17 Consumer Comment

Mabart...

AUTHOR: Striderq - (U.S.A.)

the information shown with the on line banking will show what has already posted to your account and the holds that are currently in effect. But how can the bank know about/show a check you wrote yesterday or an automatic debit you authorized for today? That is why your accurate register is the only true balance available for your account. The bank can use today's technology to show you what's already come through, only you will know what's still out there waiting to come through. We put men on the moon but we used simple mathematics developed thousands of years ago to do it. If you choose not to use the register, you are basically choosing to overspend your account and cause yourself fees.
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#18 Consumer Comment

Nothing remotely 'antiquated' about it.

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

It's the proven standard and always has been.
What did you do when you didn't have a computer/internet access?
And 'online banking' did not start in the 1960's.
You admittedly don't want to keep a register, you pay the price.
There are many of us that don't pay the price.
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#19 Consumer Comment

Why force consumers to use antiquated methods ?

AUTHOR: Mabart - (U.S.A.)

I agree with the two respondents in that it would probably be easiest for us sit down every night and balance the old check book while the wife cooks dinner and the kids play hop scotch on the front sidewalk, but then I remember I'm not living in the 1950's. Surely with today's technologies financial institutions can provide us consumers with a form of online account information that accurately reflects the status of our accounts (not just an approximation as most do now). And to not only offer and provide these features / services (i.e. Online Account Information) as a selling point for new consumers, knowing they are manipulated and serve no purpose when actually disputing a transaction ,should be consider fraudulent business practices.
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#20 Consumer Comment

ACCORDING TO A DOCUMENTARY BY AARON RUSSO THERE ARE.......

AUTHOR: Karl - (U.S.A.)

electronic machines used for ELECTIONS that can be 'rigged' in order for the outcome to be 'MANIPULATED' by those who are the 'MANIPULATORS'. Simply 'Google' this- AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM, and watch it.

There's a segment about this in that documentary that includes testimony from an individual who claims that this is TRUE! Perhaps these same machines could be, and are being used by banks, huh?

Imagine if George W. Bush HADN'T been elected in that close race for President back in 2000? Maybe the USA would have NEVER gone into Iraq in search of those 'WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION' that were NEVER FOUND, huh?!!

Maybe the 'law' that requires Americans who earn a 'SALARY' or a 'WAGE' on their 'LABOR' to pay 'Federal Income Tax' is hiding under all of those weapons in Iraq, huh?

WELCOME TO THE BIGGEST LIE ON EARTH- AMERICA!
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#21 UPDATE Employee

Keep..........

AUTHOR: D - (U.S.A.)

Keep an accurate checkbook. That way it won't matter what order the debits come out in.

Better yet, CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT if you're unable to do simple math.

That way, if your wallet is empty you can't spend anymore money that you don't have to start with.
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#22 Consumer Comment

It's hard to imagine...

AUTHOR: Ken - (U.S.A.)

It's mind boggling that you will go through all those acrobatics to check your balance twice a day, but that you won't keep a simple check register to insure that you don't overdraw the account. And if you don't overdraw, it doesn't matter what order they post in.
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