• Report: #500925

Complaint Review: Chat Womach

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  • Submitted: Sat, September 26, 2009
  • Updated: Sat, May 26, 2012

  • Reported By: Paul — Ellensburg Washington U.S.A.
Chat Womach
www.thedogtrainigsecret.com Internet United States of America

Chat Womach The Dog Training Secret.com Bogus Dog training scam, Internet

*General Comment: Con artist goes by different names

*General Comment: Are You Sure?

*Consumer Comment: More to the Womach scam

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This guy (Chat Womach) with "The Dog Training Secrets" is a big rip off, don't buy from him.  He will promise that you will have a 100% full refund.  He tells you, you will receive cd's and a book to print from.... but they dont tell you it is all on pdf files.  The pdf files wount download and when you try to send them an email, you keep getting the automated responce.  When you do finaly do get ahold of this Chet guy, he will send you emails like he never is getting your emails, he will keep sending you more advertisments for more cd's and books.  This guy is a freeking a-- jerk.  He states you will receive a 50% discaount for the program and only pay $18.89.  But after you see your credit card statement, you will seen more like $68.00 taken out of your account.  Be forworned, don't buy this program.

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#1 General Comment

Con artist goes by different names

AUTHOR: Robert - (United States of America)

Check this out... apparently he is involved in the parenting video business as well, only under a different name, "Mac Strider". So he purports to be an experienced parrot trainer, dog trainer, and now, apparently, is an authority on child rearing. Only, he's doing that under a different name. This counts among "things that make you go
hmm..."

Check out this video, he's wearing the same t-shirt, is behind the same table, and the camera is at the same angle as in a parrot-training video. This is disturbing to me. I've posted both videos here:

http://www.betterparenting.com/when-do-babies-sit-up/

http://www.birdtricks.com/blog/shower-speech-training/

I'm willing to bet he made both videos on the same occasion. This guy gives me the creeps. I wouldn't buy anything from either "Chet Womach" or "Mac Strider"
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#2 General Comment

Are You Sure?

AUTHOR: jmacek07 - (United States of America)

I know Chet well and my company has done work for him in various arenas in the past and I have found him to be extremely honest. First let me address your claim you didn't know they were pdf files. This is the order form on his site that you must complete in order to purchase from him:

https://www.thedogtrainingsecret.com/secure/checkout2.php

You might notice there are three options when purchasing. The down-loadable version, the physical version, and both.  Not sure where the confusion comes from. However judging from grammar error and spelling mistakes in your report I'm guessing that maybe English isn't your first language and you might not have understood what you were buying before your purchased?

I'm curious if you ever got your refund from Chet (not Chat). I'd be willing to bet just about anything he honored his money back guarantee when you asked for a refund.
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#3 Consumer Comment

More to the Womach scam

AUTHOR: Chris - (United States of America)

Chet and Dave Womach of birdtricks are well known in the parrot community as internet marketers posing as "professional bird trainers". 

Their questionable marketing practices and poor training advice have earned them a very poor reputation among knowledgeable bird owners and actual professional trainers. It is not uncommon to hear from parrot people of similar experiences as reported in this person's dog experience report. I highly discourage anyone from doing business with them, or anyone who promotes them, in any way.

You can read more about them at www.birdtricksters.com
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