• Report: #360358

Complaint Review: Chenoa Smith, Living Spirit Channel

  • Submitted: Thu, August 07, 2008
  • Updated: Sun, August 10, 2008

  • Reported By:Englewood Colorado
Chenoa Smith, Living Spirit Channel
livingspiritchannel.com Los Angeles, California U.S.A.

Chenoa Smith, Living Spirit Channel She didn't deliver the service she promised Los Angeles California

*Consumer Suggestion: Yet another old-hat Chenoa trick...

*UPDATE Employee: This contract has been transferred to the Be Well Network

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I contracted with Chenoa Smith do help distribute my Best Affirmations: THe Thirty-Day How-To Guide to Actively Create the Life You Want handbook. We gave her $2,000, and we haven't recieved any of the promised services. Chenoa Smith is a fraud. Do not do business with her!!!

Englewood, Colorado

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Yet another old-hat Chenoa trick...

AUTHOR: Anthony Hernandez - (U.S.A.)

Money Map... Living Theories... Living Spirit... LiveAD... Gimme Viva... and now, it seems, Be Well Network.

This is 100% standard Chenoa Smith operation. She forms "companies" (sans business licenses or other required permits/etc.) and get people to work for her with the promise of huge investments rolling in and fuure pay. These people do their level best while Chenoa scams money from people (artists/authors/musicians/etc.) with promises of developing and promoting their products. Of course, she fails to deliver.

Then, when the heat gets a little warm, Chenoa informs everyone that she has a brand-new company (complete with big-name partnerships, all of which are nonexistent anywhere but Chenoa's imagination) and that their contracts have been "transferred." The people who worked for her go unpaid and Chenoa drags them through the mud, attacking their competence, hours worked, tax status, etc. and claiming she owes them a fraction of what is really owed (which of course she never pays.) And the artists, etc. who trusted her with their work? Hung out to dry. Ask for a refund? Get told to hire a lwayer. Question Chenoa? Endure petty little threats about legal action, blah blah as Chenoa has done with other Rip Off Reports. File a complaint? Endure even more threats, including Chenoa saying that her "contracts" are not consumer contracts. Well, Chenoa, the fact remains that you are a fraud and are ripping people off, so this is a perfectly valid forum to tell the world about your abuses.

Here is an example of someone (myself) asking questions of fellow authors and artists, EACH OF WHOM PAID CHENOA SMITH for work on their books and other products. I wrote this email verbatim after about a year of empty promises made regarding my own book manuscripts:


Dear fellow Living Theories authors,

I have heard from a few of you recently regarding concerns about Living Theories Publishing, our books, and the combined lack of communication and follow-through and constant admonishments to not ask too many questions and not "bother" people lest we be warned/dropped from the program.

I am going to share my experiences with Chenoa Smith and her companies and encourage you to do the same. We are all in this boat together and I for one think it's high time we come together and insist on accountability and deliverables from LTP. My idea is to gather your stories and create a combined email to LTP that will demonstrate a united front. What do you all think? And does anyone have anything positive to say regarding actual deliverables/goals met/etc?

My history with Chenoa Smith goes back to July of 2005 when I flew to Los Angeles to discuss becoming a speaker for her Money Map program. I was told to expect assignments that never came. Last fall, I was instructed to attend a critical training session that would lay out the expanded program at a state park in Malibu, California. I rented a car and drove 11 hours each way to and from Los Angeles from Ashland, Oregon, where I live. The "critical training session" consisted of sitting around a picnic table reading a PowerPoint presentation that we could just as easily have done on the phone, via WebEx, or some equally viable virtual method. I left there feeling more than a little let down.

When Chenoa announced Living Theories, I invested $4,600 in my 5 titles with the idea that my first two books would be available in time for the 2006 holiday season. I then invested at least an additional $750 in trade working for Chenoa's other company LiveAd, plus the nearly $600 in expenses for the pre-Emmy event in Los Angeles that turned out to be a total waste of time and effort (don't get me wrong, I loved meeting everyone present and enjoyed myself, but it did my publication/marketing efforts zero good). I am now out $6,000 with notihng to show for it.

I mentioned doing some work for Chenoa's other company, LiveAd (www.itsalivead.com). I saw several talented people doing some amazing work to build a fantastic infrastructure for a large company only see it falling apart because of lack of follow-through on Chenoa's part.

As far as I am concerned, Chenoa is 0 for 3 at this time: 0 speaking assignments, 0 publication deliverables, and 0 with her other company. Add that to the fact that she insists that she knows what she's doing plus her astonishing treatment of the authors (admonishing and lecturing us for daring to ask questions and voice concerns about a process we paid for) and I trust you all can see where I am gravely concerned.

I am not accusing Chenoa or anyone of dishonesty or fraud- at least not yet. I am voicing my growing concern, echoed by a growing number of you, about the "all talk and no action" happening with our sizeable investments.

If you feel the same way, or if you have anything to contradict what I am saying, please do respond. I encourage us al to share our stories with each other because, as I said, we are all in this boat together and have the right to know if that boat is sinking.

Anthony Hxxxxxxxxx


Within minutes, Chenoa SMith was on the phone making the exact smae threats she has made on this site, all in a playground bully tone of voice. And here, verbatim, is her reply to my email, also sent to all the people she was (and still is) defrauding:

Hi everyone,

Oddly enough I was just about to compose my newsletter to all of your today.

It saddens me to see the correspondence from Anthony Hxxxxxx. Please feel free to setup an appointment with me next week via Kathryn if you would like to talk with me personally about this situation, kathryn.whipple@livingtheories.com and 310-548-4468.

We are so happy to provide get you feedback. However, acting out, aggression and combativeness will not be rewarded if you have a question or are in need of more help and support.

Yes, it is true that he worked for my other company because he had pitched me extensively to work for one of the other companies I owned.

It is also true that he was underqualified for the position and he along with another contractor were fired from Live AD, though we wanted to leave it on good terms to move forward with him in a capacity that he could be employed.

It also seems the Mr. Hxxxxxxxx was recently let go from Intuit and is undergoing a divorce, which seems to be stressful for him. However, this acting out is not okay under any standards is certainly illegal.

Also, correspondence like this is legally called slander when sent like this in an emotional heat that an unjustifiably damage the company's or persons reputation and business practices.

It is also true that we have been growing. And, this growth has been positive.

It is also true that we have had feedback from authors and artists that they would like to have more communication from us about our internal processes.

In fact, I was drafting a letter today to announce to all of you that we are implementing the following over the course of the next 30 days:

- Monthly account reviews
- Online account reviews
- Marketing plan process
- New yahoo groups with a live moderator for daily questions
- Open house in person and teleconference each month
- List of other support resources

We are also excited about the merger with Whole Life where we're already setting up major retail accounts including those with Discovery Channel!

All exciting news.

I hope that you all won't be rash in emotions or judgement before you learn about the entire picture of what Living Theories has now become for your benefit.

Love to you all and warmest regards,


Chenoa Smith


NONE of the promises Chenoa makes, and NONE of her threats have EVER been acted on in the slightest.

I played Chenoa's game and got a lawyer, per her request. She didn't reply.

I took her to court. She squeaked out on a technicality.

I went to mediation. We got an agreement. She violated it.

Chenoa Smith is a patholigcal liar and a career fraud artist. Period.

Want some hard proof of just how far out Chenoa is? Here is another email written by her, verbatim:

> Hi everyone,
> You can say that I've had an interesting week! :-) I'm going to tell
> you about a few things before I get into the program that each of you
> will be required to participate in as a part of your training for
> Living Theories without exception. My week was interesting because of
> being offered over $1.5 billion in financings of various sorts for my
> companies while at the same time watching some of the most desperate
> and strange series of actions that I've seen in a long time.
> I experienced a few things. First, I had a friend of mine literally
> go "crazy". This person is a brilliant mind with a lot of really
> amazing self-help/improvement tools. Given that I am always
> interested in these things for my own continual learning (even if it
> is repetitive), I decided to join in this training as a possibility
> for merging some of our 2007 personal/self-development tools with this
> person's library. Much to my dismay, there was no delivery by this
> friend of any tools, and this person began to manipulate everyone into
> telling them everything about themselves so that he could ask for
> their money and sleep with the most vulnerable women (this is not a
> joke). I have never seen anything like this in my life. This was the
> height of scarcity consciousness at its finest. This person also
> became more than inappropriate with me knowing how much I am actually
> worth and began to contact all of my friends and threaten me on
> voicemail to get me to talk with him and "be under his control".
> Sounds like a sci-fi movie I know, but this was actually articulated
> outloud with a number of people and on their voicemails. I found out
> that this person is most likely bi-polar despite being a genius, which
> I am saddened by. It is an interesting experience given that this was
> one of the first people that I shared my work with privately along
> with a few trusted others who I am also working with in my technology
> company.
> Last night, when a few of us were contacting the police, the thought
> to myself "everything is a reflection of something in myself and in my
> community". I thought about why everyone was so drawn to this person
> besides his brilliance. I remember that most people were there
> because he promised to "fund them" or "teach them about money". Since
> I teach people about money, I thought, "Wow there's someone else
> directly teaching some of the same things". I watched as each person
> came desperately waited to "get the magic info". As I saw this person
> "flip the tables on everyone", I quietly slipped away.
> This morning, I reflected on the rest of last week remembering that
> there are a few people who have unclear information about me and
> Living Theories, seemingly spread by a few uninformed people who are
> passionate and well-meaning, but still uninformed. I also remember
> times when I felt like some of these people were being inappropriate
> about money and asking for jobs, etc., and I didn't voice my concerns.
> I also know that everyone is doing the best they can when they can
> including my "crazy" friend above. I'm also not saying that we
> haven't had lots of changes and growing experiences with Living
> Theories. I'm glad that the vast majority of you have been clear and
> communicated with us along the way if you need something from Living
> Theories (versus "me" Chenoa).
> I also know that we've had delays with our free webstores program
which is now called "Living Theories recommends" due to a change in
web programs. I also know that we could be even more open about the
"business side" of things as much as we can without being
inappropriate or releasing information that can be leaked to our
competition. We are working to help you learn even more about what is
happening "behind the scenes" and value your feedback. We have had a
few artists who want to know our entire business plan, which is not
appropriate. This information is for qualified investors (assets and
worth of $1 million or more who actually invest as specified by the
Securities Exchange Commission). There are some clear boundaries
about how we have to conduct our business and we are looking to be
more open as possible with new additions to the programs, including
Voices and Visions.
> I know that when there isn't a clear understanding then it is
> my duty to help everyone get clear, especially when there are issues
> around money, part of my passion in teaching and working with people.
> Given that I believe in h*o'oponopono (which means taking
> responsibility for everything around the self including self), I said
> to myself "This craziness and nervousness is mine". First, I said to
> myself and each of you "I love you. I'm sorry." I then realized that
> there are things about money and spirit that I have not yet shared
> with you and our Living Theories community. In that, I now know that
> my scarcity in sharing revolutionizing information and systems with
> each of you is one of the most desperate and scarce things that I was
> doing. Not only that, but my lack of sharing despite being worth
> trillions of dollars with my tech company and just cashing out on it
> this week, I was still holding back from you all and the Living
> Theories community.
> So in this way, I am becoming responsible for these issues. Starting
> today for our new 2007 year (started on March 1), I am inviting you to
> participate in our 16 week Wealth and Asset Management System program.
> The results of this program is that you will have a plan/template for
> instant access to how to create wealth anytime you want should you
> apply the system to your life and do the work to put the system to
> work all within the time of working with Living Theories and having a
> social/personal life. I am doing this despite being busy and despite
> being having the most important work of my life happeing in the next
> few days.
> This is every secret I know to becoming not just financially free, but
> how to have substantive wealth. It's not just that I invented some
> new software and business processes with friends. It is also that
> these things I invented came from a set of beliefs in action. That
> doesn't mean that I don't realize that creating wealth is done
> overnight or that you are "bad" in any way. It does mean that if you
> are not dealing with these issues directly with open community support
> and your own personal vulnerability then blocks around money and
> business will continue to plague you and our work together. We're
> happy to work with you in this regard and it is helpful for you to
> consider doing this work with us.
> Everyone in our community needs to "know about money", how it works
> and how it is generated quickly along with how to work with lawyers
> and bankers. While I do know that this is part of my job as CEO and I
> accept that I am the "expert", it is great when we can all share in
> this knowledge.
> The details of this program are listed at
> http://www.livingtheories.com/reading.htm including how to access the
> MP3 files if you can't make the live calls for this bi-weekly program
> on Tuesdays and Saturdays. The program is $20 for Living Theories
> clients and $40 for non-clients.
> I look forward to working with each of you in this way so that we are
> dedicated to excellence and abundance on all levels at all times.
> I look forward to changing the world with you. Please forgive any
> typos or grammar due to my typing in complete passion.
> Warmest,
> Chenoa


There are many thousands more pages of information like this.

As I said, Chenoa Smith is a total and utter fraud. Period.
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This contract has been transferred to the Be Well Network

AUTHOR: Viva Networks - (U.S.A.)

This person's contract has been transferred to the Be Well Network and is being fulfilled through these services.

There is no breach of contract and all conditions have been met.

There is no specific violation of the contract listed on this report.

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