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Complaint Review: Christian Cafe

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  • Submitted: Fri, October 07, 2011
  • Updated: Wed, October 12, 2011

  • Reported By: Shame and Disgrace — Ottawa Ontario USA
Christian Cafe
128 Banchory Crescent, Ottawa, Ontario K2K 2V5, Ottawa, Ontario United States of America

Christian Cafe Christian Dating Cafe, christiancafe.com Discrimination Disgrace, Ottawa, Ontario

*Consumer Comment: It's settled!

*Author of original report: Wrong Interpretation: It Is In the Bible

*Consumer Comment: Ok so where in the bible...

*Author of original report: Typical Truthfulness

*Consumer Comment: Typical siliness

*Consumer Comment: Maybe you should try Jdate

*Author of original report: Wrong: Biblical Credibility

*Consumer Comment: Credibility

*Author of original report: Wrong: The Bible Decides

*Consumer Comment: You Decide...

*Author of original report: I Suspect You Are Wrong And I Am Right:

*Consumer Comment: Now it's Religious Dating Sites?

*Consumer Suggestion: Are trolls the real menace here?

*Consumer Comment: Oh Jeez

*Consumer Comment: What happened?

*Consumer Comment: Just another example

*Author of original report: I Have Started Something And It Is More Than Just A Site

*Consumer Comment: Start your own site if you're not happy

*Author of original report: To The Blind Troll Authors: Lawrence - Braintree (USA) and Robert - Irvine (U.S.A.) It Is In The Bible's Way Of Thinking

*Consumer Comment: In your way of thinking

*Consumer Comment: Wow

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It is an absolute shame and a disgrace when one has to write about a Christian site that is supposed to be a hallmark for christian equity and equality in this secular world but the time has come for its disgrace to be exposed.

This site falls far below the standards of what a christian ought to be in terms of impartiality and fairness.  On the site there may be many members composed of other ethnic compositions that of course are found on the testimonial section of the site.

However when it comes to the homepage section or introductory section of the site none are there to be found.  Imagine a christian site that is supposed to talk about brotherhood and sisterhood but cannot even practice it even on its own homepage in terms of ethnic equality.

What a shame and what a disgrace and Christ right now must be so ashamed and displeased!  It therefore is indirectly saying that brothers and sisters of other races are good for some distant corner on the site but they are not good enough for the foremost part of the site which is its own homepage. [continued below]....
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What an unchristian thing to do and what an unBiblical thing to do. This flies in the face of what the Bible says about equality (I Corinthians 3: 8, Galatians 3: 26-28, Romans 10: 11-12, Romans 3: 21-22, Colossians 3: 11, Acts 15: 6-9) in terms of its own standard of Biblical ethics

This christian site may come up with some "loophole" lame excuse to "challenge" this but any time you challenge clear Biblical precedent for equality set in the Bible with some inferior challenge you are nothing more than a compromiser and lukewarm and you stop being impartial and start being Partial in your practices as the Bible clearly forbids (James 2: 1-4).  In other words you are very disobedient and rebellious to the very Bible you claim to uphold and stand for!

Compromise when it comes to christian equality should never stood for and any site that attaches the name christian to its site and says that it is a supporter of Christ but compromises on this core Biblical principle should be outrightly condemned!

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 10/07/2011 10:04 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Christian-Cafe/Ottawa-Ontario-/Christian-Cafe-Christian-Dating-Cafe-christiancafecom-Discrimination-Disgrace-Ottawa-O-785965. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

It's settled!

AUTHOR: Robert - (USA)

It says so in Wikipedia!  That settles it!  LMFAO.  Now that's a theological authority if I ever saw one.

Since when is Wikipedia the be all/do all for anything?  LOL!

Tell ya what bucko.  Ya don't like what the catholics are doing, write a letter to the Pope.  Better yet, just drop on by the Vatican and ask them "what's up?"  LOL!

Who knows, perhaps you'll impress them so much with your vast Biblical knowledge and interpretive insight that they'll let you into the Vatican vaults-then you'll really be shocked!  LOL!

Here's a pop quiz for you buckwheat:  Who is suppose to be the head of the Church of England?

If you know the answer to that, then explain to us WHY this person is suppose to be the Head of the Church of England.  Bonus Point:  Why does Germany have a "church tax" (at least they did up until 1994 that I know of.)

And folks wonder why I have no use for any organized religion.  I now return you to your normally scheduled religious rants...
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#2 Author of original report

Wrong Interpretation: It Is In the Bible

AUTHOR: Shame and Disgrace - (Canada)

Must we believe such nonsense:  If you know so well who established Christianity "inspector" then by all means tell us.  Jesus established Christianity and that is the only answer that deserves to be given.  Wikianswers says this "Christianity is a belief that Jesus rose from the dead and sits at the right hand of God"  The Bible proves this (Hebrews 11: 19, I Thessalonians 4: 14, Romans 6: 4, Acts 2: 32, 33, Colossians 3: 1).  By virtue of this truth that Jesus did rise from the dead and sits at the right hand of God He therefore can be considered to be the establisher and founder of Christianity and that is why all who believe in Him were called Christians (Acts 11: 26) from where we get the term Christianity from!

The question we should ask you and all other commentators "Inspector" is if you have Christ in your heart because when you stand before Him you will know on that day the eternity you will spend your eternal destiny in.

If you want to find out where in the Bible the scriptures are of equality read the report.  There is much more  I did not include e.g. (Acts 10: 34-35, Revelation 5: 9-10, I Peter 1: 17).  See also the link:  http://www.openbible.info/topics/racial_equality

Do you need any more "Inspector" to inspect or are you still willing to ask the question: Where we can find this in the Bible?  One only has to read the Bible to find out and what the Bible interprets as Truth is always the Final and Correct interpretation.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Ok so where in the bible...

AUTHOR: Inspector - (USA)

does it anoint you as personal crusader and judge of the truth based on your own vulgar interpetations?

"Christianity was not established by Jesus to be a religion".

Jesus did not establish christianity, Jesus was not a christian.  The world is in turmoil today because of people like you that think they are an expert on religious matters.  And what you call "change" is your own twisted and demented view of the world.

Have a glass of kool aid before the world tires of you.
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Typical Truthfulness

AUTHOR: Shame and Disgrace - (Canada)

I see we have people calling the Bible silly.  Oh well, we will see how well you do when it comes to outliving the Bible and its words.  You do know that you will face a judgment before God for what you did with Christ

Anyway, the Bible has already been quoted and it cannot be removed from the report.  Its proof is there for this Christian site to see and it must conform to the Bible.  It will be judged by Christ also one day for its failure to conform to His Word.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Typical siliness

AUTHOR: Ramjet - (U.S.A.)

You said

"The Bible already provided the credibility for what has been posted here.  It is final source of truth for anything that is christian related.  This "christian" site won't argue with this at all.

The Bible has the final say over anything that may term itself as "christian."  If any "christian" site does not subscribe to what has been clearly outlined to be Biblical then it is unchristian and unBiblical and not operating as an entity that is 100% credible.

For anything "Christian" the Bible has the final say.  Every Christian knows.  Opinions just don't matter when the Truth of the Bible like that which has been clearly posted in the report ends any argument."

A fine example of circular double talk that means nothing.

I'm outa here, this is too silly for words.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Maybe you should try Jdate

AUTHOR: voiceofreason - (United States of America)

See Report: #787368. I think y'all should give them a go. Maybe find a Jewish nut job with a personality disorder to compliment yourself.

That should be a h-e-*-l of a match-up.

Or ask Mambo Odette's help to voodoo yourself a good catch.

Hey Mambo, da da da da da da da da da...
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#7 Author of original report

Wrong: Biblical Credibility

AUTHOR: Shame and Disgrace - (Canada)

The Bible already provided the credibility for what has been posted here.  It is final source of truth for anything that is christian related.  This "christian" site won't argue with this at all.

The Bible has the final say over anything that may term itself as "christian."  If any "christian" site does not subscribe to what has been clearly outlined to be Biblical then it is unchristian and unBiblical and not operating as an entity that is 100% credible.

For anything "Christian" the Bible has the final say.  Every Christian knows.  Opinions just don't matter when the Truth of the Bible like that which has been clearly posted in the report ends any argument.
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#8 Consumer Comment

Credibility

AUTHOR: Ramjet - (U.S.A.)

Before you can use any document or any other source as an authority, you have to prove it's a credible and reliable source.

You are quoting some version and translation of some old books that people found many years ago and assembled into what you call 'the bible'.  You don't even have any of the original texts for any of these books so you don't even know if the translations are correct.  The only reason you believe it is any kind of an authority is just because you do.  You believe it just because you believe it and for no other reason.

That's all fine, you are, of course, entitled to believe anything you like.  Just don't try to pretend it's some sort of authority when you try to argue any points.  To me, and to many other, it's just another book and has no particular credibility, nothing more.  There is certainly nothing holy about it as far as I can tell.



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Wrong: The Bible Decides

AUTHOR: Shame and Disgrace - (Canada)

The Bible decided this a long time ago and has won the argument already.  I only quoted seven scriptural texts from the Bible to support my case.  There are dozens more.

Every Christian knows that once the Bible is quoted and is proven clear in what it teaches that it ends the argument that may be against it.

One can come up with millions of millions of opinions but the Bible is God's Truth and God's Truth wins over Opinion each and every time.  It is a fact that even this Christian site will not argue with.

So unless someone is going to cut out of the billions of the Bibles out there the scripture references to equality that are found in the Bible's pages so as to win their opinionated argument (an impossibility to say the least) then the Bible has already won the case.

Any Christian site that will contravene this post with it's own opinions in light of the Bible has to say is a hypocrite because you cannot be christian and not a follower of the Bible. It's an impossibility.

Thus, the Bible Has Already decided the outcome of what has been said and that is that the site that does not follow equality that are found in the pages of the Bible are hypocrites and their name should be changed from Christian Cafe to Hypocrite Cafe instead!

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#10 Consumer Comment

You Decide...

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

I suspect that this OP which happens to be me is right and you are wrong.  I am not the same person.

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Troll or Nutcase?
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I Suspect You Are Wrong And I Am Right:

AUTHOR: Shame and Disgrace - (Canada)

I suspect that this OP which happens to be me is right and you are wrong.  I am not the same person.  If there are people out there exposing sites like these for the same issues then they have seen the light and are not going to allow the same nonsense to continue on with these sites.

This is a Christian site and not a "religious" one-Get Real.  Christianity was never established by Jesus to Be a Religion.  It was established to be the ONLY way to God and to have a Relationship with Him.

The Bible that has been highlighted in the report is being disobeyed.  Sorry to disappoint other commentators:  The Best Thing that Jesus always concerns Himself with is His Word, the Bible and the people who say they uphold His Word, the Bible and where it is disobeyed Jesus always comes on the scene to expose it and correct it.

By the way, I suspect those who know nothing about the Bible but only about their own opinions will have all kinds of foolish thoughts and opinions to highlight but the Bible once it is quoted for what it clearly shows Trumps All!
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#12 Consumer Comment

Now it's Religious Dating Sites?

AUTHOR: Monica - (United States of America)

I suspect that the OP is the same person thats been posting about Eastern Europe sites and the Aussie sites.  Different name and location, but always the same tripe.  Here's some advice for the OP:  Look into your personality instead of your skin color.  It seems you have the same problem on every site you visit.
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#13 Consumer Suggestion

Are trolls the real menace here?

AUTHOR: Def-not-a-troll - (Canada)

Umm, isn't the photo on that website of the guy who runs it and his wife? Would you prefer it if one of them had darkened their skin before posting it? At least that way, you could argue they were a "mixed" couple.

When you actually find a man who can stand you, why not send in your happy couple photo for review? Perhaps they'll post it for you. Or, perhaps they'll pass. I would. Trolls don't tend to get favourable reviews.

Actually, don't trolls live under bridges? Perhaps you should go back to scaring the three goats.
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#14 Consumer Comment

Oh Jeez

AUTHOR: Geina - (U.S.A.)

Here we go again with another religious fundamentalist fruitcake. 

I'm siure Jesus has more important things to worry about than your own racism when it comes to your dating partners. What do you care what ethnic background is on the site, if you're only looking for another Christian fruitcake like yourself? Taking the bible out of context to suit your own needs is wrong. My guess is that Jesus is laughing at you. 
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#15 Consumer Comment

What happened?

AUTHOR: sillyrob - (USA)

Did you go on the site and no one was interested in you? You got upset and figured that everyone is racist because they don't want to date you? You got so mad, that you went on a website called "RipoffReport.com" and filed a claim that doesn't make any sense?

Jesus dude, get over it. Just because a few people turned you down, doesn't mean that an entire website doesn't practice equality and God and the such. It just means you're setting your standards too high. Settle for a fatty or something.
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#16 Consumer Comment

Just another example

AUTHOR: Ramjet - (U.S.A.)

You are a ridiculous fanatic and are just another reason I am happy to say I am not religious.

All your posts are just more typical meaningless religious mumbo jumbo.

Yes, please start your own web site, no one is under any obligation to adhere to your silly standards.

You are the absolute shame and disgrace to religion. 
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#17 Author of original report

I Have Started Something And It Is More Than Just A Site

AUTHOR: Shame and Disgrace - (Canada)

I have started something and it is more than just starting a site which is another excuse that is used for those with ways of inequality.

What I have started is called Change.

And that makes me even more happier than just starting a site!
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#18 Consumer Comment

Start your own site if you're not happy

AUTHOR: voiceofreason - (United States of America)

What a nut job. you're being incredibly unchristian in lambasting this company for such nonsense. You make a mockery of Jesus and Christianity by quoting all this scripture for such a stupid affair.
Lord save anyone from hooking up with you on that site.
The only excuse for your ranting would be if you're mentally ill.
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To The Blind Troll Authors: Lawrence - Braintree (USA) and Robert - Irvine (U.S.A.) It Is In The Bible's Way Of Thinking

AUTHOR: Shame and Disgrace - (Canada)

First one should not expect those who do not subscribe to the Bible and who call it "religious" to understand what the Bible is clearly saying.  Regardless as to what others say what the Bible says trumps everything and one cannot be "Christian" site and not follow the Bible as a Christian.  Any attack on the Bible or compromise with the Bible is foolish because the Bible will win every time.

This has nothing to do with the foolish notion belonging to the trolls above that Jesus does not consider this as important.  On the contrary He said that He is the Word (John 1: 1) and therefore everything that concerns His Word concerns Him.

Secondly those with discriminatory patterns themselves and tendencies will be known to mock and scoff at this because they still have an inborn nature of inequality in them and therefore they will be opposed to this post because they live a rebellious and disobedient life opposed to God themselves.

They need to get Christ inside of their hearts and know that Christ and His Word stands for equality and then they will move past their blindness and into the light where they will see clearly and not as before.

Thirdly others always use the excuse that it impossible to post all races.  How many do they think there are billions? They are absurd and full of total nonsense because their minds and they themselves are full of absurdity and total nonsense that they were most likely born with. Last one checked there were several basic races and they deserve a right to be seen on the front just as one race is seen on the homepage of the site as well.

The site can use a rotational element and rotate the Kaleidoscopic Christian value of the site that projects true Christian equality but now however the site prefers to operate with a static element and thus projects a true discriminatory pattern that is non-kaleidoscopic in nature and certainly partial in its promotion.  A Shame and A Disgrace Indeed!
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#20 Consumer Comment

In your way of thinking

AUTHOR: Lawrence - (USA)

I supposed that you think all sites should also have all different languages so everyone can read what it has to say, too?
Are you suggesting they should have a picture representing every single race under the sun?

Stop feeling sorry for yourself. And Stop being so jealous.

Plus, I'm so sure "Christ" is upset about thier website. Like he has nothing better to concern himself with. Idiot.
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#21 Consumer Comment

Wow

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

Okay getting rid of all of the religious rantings what this report comes down to is that you are some minority who thinks they are not being represented.

I took a look at their home page and there were TWO..that is TWO pictures.  I guess because they weren't your race it is automatically discrimination.  So to be fair they need to equally represent EVERY race and ethnicity.  After all that is what you are saying right?

I also did search for singles, randomly choosing a couple of cities.  Would you believe that when I clicked on one city there were more "white" photos, shocking...how dare they discriminate against "non-whites".  But then an amazing thing happened,  I clicked on another city and there were more "non-whites" than "whites"...Wow that must mean they are discriminating against "whites"...oh wait how can that be?
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