- Report: #120031
Complaint Review: Cleveland County DHS Oklahoma
| Cleveland County DHS Oklahoma 631 E. Robinson
Norman, Oklahoma U.S.A. |
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Cleveland County DHS Oklahoma Ripoff Destroying Families Norman Oklahoma
*Consumer Comment: I agree with you Jeanne 100%
*Consumer Comment: Don't Give Up
*Consumer Suggestion: Get more Involved
*Consumer Suggestion: Get more Involved
*Consumer Comment: RE: Cheyenne
*Consumer Comment: The Long Arm of The Law
*Consumer Suggestion: The House Always Wins
*Consumer Suggestion: My family has been through hell because of these people..
*Consumer Comment: Leaving Something Out
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The last time the mother tried to call dhs about the visits she was told that her caseworker was no longer with dhs and they had a new caseworker, she left a voice message and has never heard back. These parents have complied with dhs and are following their treatment plan. They were told in may that they would get the kids back when they found a new place to live, as the house they were in did not have a bedroom for each child, they did that, still no kids, dhs keeps coming up with some other reason to keep the children. On September 9th, the youngest was born, they took him from the hospital the day after, we waited for the court date, DHS said they had to agree that the baby was deprived. How can he be deprived when they never even got to take him home? This has been a nightmare, i have posted messages and even sent the president an e-mail on child welfare reform.
The court dates are a joke as dhs lies and says what they want to say and nobody hears our side. One investigator said the house was suitable for the children, funny, that report never made it to court. I don't know what can be done about these people, but someone needs to do something. These people are destroying our lives and the lives of these 3 little boys, we don't get to see them enough for them to even know who we are anymore. At the last visit the oldest was calling the foster mother mom. the middle child doesn't remember us and the baby has not bonded at all with his parents. We don't know when we will get to see them again, probably not anytime soon.
DHS has not done a thing to help the parents, they have only made things much worse for them. These kids were not abused, they were happy and very much loved, they got taken because they didn't have their own bedroom. Well, i didn't either when i was little, and neither do alot of kids in the united states, but that does not mean they are deprived or neglected. DHS goes after the people who don't have the money to fight back, their children are taken simply because they are not rich and don't live in the best house in town. Instead of taking children, why don't they provide the means to get people back on their feet, some have no money because of circumstances beyond their control. It's time child welfare was put in their place, they are the ones guilty of neglect and depriving children.
Jeanne
Enid, Oklahoma
U.S.A.
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I agree with you Jeanne 100%
AUTHOR: Darlene - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 25, 2011
Firstly (and arguably most importantly), I'll urge you to get a good lawyer; they're the only ones who can "play" the system as well as the government can. A good lawyer will usually be the difference in a win or loss in questionable cases, or those against a government agency.
Secondly, certified mail with return receipt requested is your best friend when dealing with anything legal. Make sure to do this for _everything_ you send them; don't use email. You might consider doing this with the politicians as well.
Thirdly, avoid conversations on the phone or in person unless you can record them (and be sure to check with a lawyer regarding the legal particulars on this...it could vary from state to state). Make sure that you get the person's full name and their position with the department. If you record on digital media, *make* *backups* on several different formats (CD, floppy, flash drive, external HDD, etc.).
Finally, be sure to document dates and times of _any_ contact you have with _any_ government employee about this case. Being able to say "I talked with so-and-so on this date at this time and he/she said/did X, Y, and Z" will be a *huge* benefit if it ever needs to go to court.
I'm not a lawyer, so I obviously can't give official legal advice (nor should the above be interpreted as such), but nothing prohibits me from giving layman's suggestions.
I wish you the best of luck with the case.
#3 Consumer Suggestion
Get more Involved
AUTHOR: Michelle - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 08, 2004
Also, what about the parents?
Good Luck.
#4 Consumer Suggestion
Get more Involved
AUTHOR: Michelle - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 08, 2004
Also, what about the parents?
Good Luck.
#6 Consumer Comment
The Long Arm of The Law
AUTHOR: Cheyenne - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 06, 2004
I only reported because the kids ask me for help and I don't know how to give it. Now I am taking Psychology courses so I can help those who need it because DCS ignores the kids who need them and destroy the ones who don't. If that isn't evil among us I don't know what is.
#7 Consumer Suggestion
The House Always Wins
AUTHOR: Michelle - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 04, 2004
Their motto in Iowa is "When in doubt, take the children out." VERY SCAREY.
It is very hard to deal with these people, any assumption that CPS makes about you becomes the truth to the courts and the people around you.
They run the court rooms, you are guilty until proven innocent.
My best advice would be to pay for your own lawyer. If your daughter is being represented by a court-appointed lawyer, she has a long road ahead of her. The lawyers and CPS workers and judges are all on the same side. It's just so routine in the court rooms. The lawyers will tell you if you agree to the findings of the CPS worker the process will be easier for you and your children and that putting up a fight makes it harder for you to get your kids back. So what do you do, agree? NO. If you believe that you are being wrongly accused or have the means for your children to return home you should put up a fight and never agree to anything that is not true. Although what you do has a lot to do with they way that they look at you. CAUTION- If you do put up a fight they may think that you are crazy, lying and that you are incapible and not accepting responsibilty. It's really a no win situation unless you kiss their ass, but don't go out without a good lawyer on your side. If your lawyer puts up a good fight on your behalf you have the best chance.
Another word of advice, the longer that the kids remain in foster, the harder it will be to get them back. They may try to tell you that the children have bonded with the foster mother and that remaining with her may now be the best interest for the children if the foster mother wants to adopt her children and she very well may considering a lot of people go into foster care as a way to adopt children. Read more ripoff reports on CPS to find more stories about foster parents trying to adopt children in the system.
If the parents are really dedicated to get back their kids and I hope they are they should not give up. So many people talk about being victimized by the system while they are leaving out the real truth about what's going on and that makes everyone look bad and deceptive when talking about being victimized by CPS workers.
Typing really fast. Please excuse and errors or hard to understand sentences.
Michelle
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
P.S. I have not been a victim of CPS myself but I have done some research and talked with people and heard their stories. I do believe that we need to make changes but remember that changing the system does not change the people employed and we all know how government agency workers can be so... not trying to stereo-type or anything.
#8 Consumer Suggestion
My family has been through hell because of these people..
AUTHOR: Jeanne - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, November 28, 2004
#9 Consumer Comment
Leaving Something Out
AUTHOR: Jenelle - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 27, 2004

