• Report: #66428

Complaint Review: Computertraining.com

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  • Submitted: Tue, September 02, 2003
  • Updated: Fri, January 01, 2010

  • Reported By:Clayton Delaware
Computertraining.com
100 Commerce Drive Wilmington, Delaware U.S.A.

Computertraining.com Money Making Scam, From President down to Instructor all Scam Artists Wilmington Delaware

*Consumer Comment: For the Record....

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Looks, like you were wrong Frank!

*Consumer Comment: What are you talking about lol......

*Author of original report: many Ripoff Reports filed about Sallie Mae or SLM Financial as well as Computertraining.com.

*UPDATE Employee: You are Correct ..a company that is filled with greed especially from the owner

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We have all heard the radio advertisements for Computertraining.com. You know the one that says the average salary for a Microsoft Certified System Engineer (MCSE) is still over $50,000 a year.

While this may be true what they don't tell you is that an employer is only paying those salaries to a qualified individual who is a MCSE and has years of actual hands on experience. The truth is that after your $20,000+ investment the only thing you have learned how to do is memorize a bunch of exam questions and answers.
That's right for $20,000+ your tuition is divided into 2 protions. Half of your tuition goes toward 6 or 7 text books, 2 three ring binders with Xeroxed copies of lab excerises and access to Mastermind.com. Mastermind.com is an online tool designed to prepare the students for the Microsoft exams by giving you the questions and answers. The other half of tuition goes toward hours spent in the classroom. This is the only part that is refundable if you decide to withdrawl within the first 8 weeks.

Although the course is represented as a 6 month program it is actually a 4 month MCSE program and a 2 month Cisco program. So basically they charge you $10,000 for books and material and $10,000 for class lectures. Plus at a cost of $125 each there are 9 total exams to obtain the MCSE,CCNA & CCDA certifications. If you fail any of these the money is lost and has to be paid again to retake it.
Computertraining.com claims that they have a %97 pass rate and why shouldn't they if they are giving the students the questions and answers.

However this has really devalued the certifications in the IT industry forcing Microsoft to change the tests and employers requiring hands on experience. They actually goes as far as to give the students other websites to visit that have more up top date exam questions and answers.

Computertraining.com has no interest in training people for a skilled career in the IT industry. All they are interested in doing is to scam hard working people out of money that they have saved or borrowed to try and make a better life for themselves and their families.
When it is all said and done all you have to show for yor efforts are a few peices of paper that say Microsoft on it, no actual experience and a $20,000+ debt that you probably won't be able to pay off with an IT job if you can get one.

Certified Scam Artists
Wilmington, Delaware
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

For the Record....

AUTHOR: FrankW - (USA)

Well for the record, I am indeed a student, well or was...lol.... Our school has yet to officaily been closed, the manager at our location told us that the "HVAC was malfuctioning" and thats why class was cancelled yesterday...

Looks like this isnt the case at all...We still havent acually been told anything official however. At any rate...I still stand by my original post, the Instuctor that I had was amazing, he worked very hard to make sure you did succeed.

I will have to just finish up my MCSA and MCSE on my own.... I would agree now that the company as a whole failed...obviously lol....

Well, best of luck to those students and facuilty that got majorly screwed over....

Anyone that was in the program, just keep pushing you can do it on your own, may not be as easy, but you can do it. :)

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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Looks, like you were wrong Frank!

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

As an ex-employee of this "training program"...  I've recieved word that the company is indeed, going out of business...  They let go the rest of the Admissions Team, very recently...  (Happy Holidays, huh?!)  The company is closing, "FrankW"...  My only question is to you...  If you are indeed a student, are they going to let students finish up their certifications?  On December 14th, you stated you have about 2 months to go (I read the massive amount of rebuttals you blasted).  Did your IT instructor inform you that they were being fired because of all of the reasons listed in the posts that you've tried to defend???

"FrankW", you know exactly what's going to happen because you're not a student...  Clearly, "FrankW" is either the ower of the this former "training program" or one of his associates working closely with him... Why do I say this?  FrankW has been responding to a number of posts, with basically the same "script"... He was very busy posting his positive spins on the negativity the "school" has brought onto others, on December 14th, for some odd reason...  He's supposedly a dedicated student who loves the program and is "disgusted" with anything that's not 100% positive feedback regarding student/employee comments regarding ComputerTraining.com. 

I believe you're a crook and a slimeball, Frank...  Clearly, everything posted to warn others about ComputerTraining.com has been true all along...  Frank, you and the organization you've created have scammed it's last student, potential student and employee...  At least, under the name of ComputerTraining.com or ComputerTraining.edu, whichever...  To those that were recently, let go...  Good luck to you, things will pick up in the new year!  : ) 

My last words to you, Frank? Good riddance, to bad rubbish! 

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#3 Consumer Comment

What are you talking about lol......

AUTHOR: FrankW - (USA)

ITS A CONSPIRACY EVERYONE RUN FOR YOUR LIVES.....

Wow, some of these posts and rebuttals just make me bust out in laughter.... CTC.edu is not part of some huge conspiracy with Sallie Mae (also not in a conspiracy) to steal anyones money....I can not believe anyone would ever believe this. If you signed up for the loans they can be sold to other loan companies which is believe it or not a very common practice in their industry....The idea that CTC.edu and Sallie Mae are teaming up to steal your money is just insane....

Alright now for the facts on CTC.edu : They are a fantastic company that provides exactly what they say they are going to (If you actually work with them) and that is an Education. Much like any college (Which Also works with Sallie Mae) you are paying for the instruction of professionals to teach you how to do something in this case, they not only teach you the specific course material but they also teach you how to take Microsoft exams which are not easy might I add....

Since I started this program I have obtained not one but two MCTS certifications, my MCP, and am only one exam away from my MCSA...even though CTC.edu is currently a MCSA program I plan to take the training I received here and get my MCSE on my own time since they teach you the right approach for Microsoft exams. O yeah by the way, like I said I'm one exam away form my MCSA, well that's with over 2 months still remaining in the course.

As far as the initial writer is concerned, yeah the instructors most definitely do show you other places to help you learn the material. Many people learn in different manners and depending on how you learn on source may be better than another for you, not only that doesn't it make sense to get more input on a subject? So yeah you will have the cost of extra books should you choose to purchase them, and yeah...if you fail exams you will have to pay to take additional ones (They are not free).

Good luck to everyone out there that is fortunate enough to take this opportunity and work hard to better themselves as well.

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#4 Author of original report

many Ripoff Reports filed about Sallie Mae or SLM Financial as well as Computertraining.com.

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

It seems that the lending institution that Computertraining.com uses to finance student loans has a not so honest past as well. There have been many Ripoff Reports filed about Sallie Mae or SLM Financial as well as Computertraining.com.

Anyone who has financed their student loan with SLM beware they have a reputation of dealing with scam companies such as Ameritrain. Ameritrain took students money and closed up and SLM went after the students for the loan money instead of going after the thieves that stole their money.

Going to gather further information to find out if Computertraining.com is really in the education business or are they in business with SLM to ripoff $20,000 plus from unsuspecting consumers looking to improve themselves.
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#5 UPDATE Employee

You are Correct ..a company that is filled with greed especially from the owner

AUTHOR: Shawn - (U.S.A.)

Dear Readers,

In response to your letters and warnings you are correct. I know because I use to work for computertraining.com. They are a company that is filled with greed especially from the owner to the bookkeeper to their sales manager. They have not only raised their tuition from 10,000 dollars to 20,800 within the past three years. They treat their employees terribly. The turn over rate is unbelievable and they are forced the employees to be worked and treated and spoke to like slaves. I wish someone or some organization would investigate these greedy, greedy individuals. If I were you I would not attend computertraining.com for the mere fact they don't care about their students, just their pockets. Sincerley Shawn
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