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  • Submitted: Sun, July 14, 2002
  • Updated: Wed, July 30, 2003

  • Reported By:Garden Grove CA
Concorde Group
http://www.concordegroup.net, http://extreme.i.am, http://noboss4.us, and doubtless others Internet U.S.A.

Concorde Group persistent MLM solicitation Internet

*Consumer Comment: THE SYSTEM WORKS- IF YOU AREN'T TOO LAZY TO WORK IT!!

*Consumer Comment: Concorde is NOT the same as SFI!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Let's Get it Clear

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Let's Get it Clear

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Let's Get it Clear

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Let's Get it Clear

*Consumer Comment: Words of caution ..avoid these types of "businesses" unless you have money to burn.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: FIND A COMPANY YOU CAN LOVE

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: FIND A COMPANY YOU CAN LOVE

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: FIND A COMPANY YOU CAN LOVE

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: FIND A COMPANY YOU CAN LOVE

*UPDATE Employee: Concorde is not a scam

*UPDATE Employee: Get Real!

*Consumer Suggestion: An outrageous VERY expensive scam....

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I have received repeated e-mail requests to consider the Concorde Group automated marketing system. I highly question the methods their web sites seem to imply. Who has pertinent information regarding this organization?

Dave
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#1 Consumer Comment

THE SYSTEM WORKS- IF YOU AREN'T TOO LAZY TO WORK IT!!

AUTHOR: Elizabeth - (U.S.A.)

I've been reading alot of these comments and complaints about Concorde Vision. I've been working with The Concorde Group and Lifeforce since March of this year (2003) I am a single mother of 7 and grandmother of 1. I too was looking for a freebie for a while before I found Concorde, or at least something super cheap to make money. But let's get real!!! Money doesn't come for free. Concorde's conference calls, (which are now on EVERY even day of the month, instead of every four days, as previously described) are very clear. This is not a get rich quick scheme. Work is involved to build a residual income. All legitamate businesses will require an investment and time, commitment and work. That's how life works. These people that are complaining and whining so much are the lazy ones looking for a free ride. If they listen to the conference calls and research the website they will see that nobody is promising that anyone will make any amounts of money in any period of time. It will ALWAYS depend upon your level of time commitment and your efforts. Concorde does have the best upline support and training I've ever experienced. And as a single mother with very little money to spend I am building my business gradually. The first couple of months I worked consistently, part-time and my check had grown to 545.00 It was about doubling every month. Then I got sick had a couple of hospitalizations and surgeries. I'm only just now getting back to work at it, but my check this month was for over $350. and I didn't even work at this for the last couple of months. I think that's pretty great. On the issue of not being able to CANCEL one's membership, that's alot of bologna too. My 22 year old daughter joined, tried the business for a couple of months, but found that it just wasn't her cup of tea. We were able to get her Concorde Website cancelled with a click of a button. Same with her auto-responder. And her Lifeforce website as well. She does still order the products every month though. She and my grandson use the Body Balance every day, and my daughter also loves the Daybright for energy. And I continue to love and use the products every day. So to the intelligent people out there I request that you not listen to the whining of the lazy people who have never even bothered to get the facts. Thanks, Elizabeth
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#2 Consumer Comment

Concorde is NOT the same as SFI!

AUTHOR: Brenda - (U.S.A.)

I object to a previous comment that Concorde Group
"is like SFI".

I have been with SFI for a year and am doing very
well. I LIKE working alone and being my own boss.
I have invested a lot of time learning, a lot of
time working, and some money, too. And, yes, I
DO make money (profit) every month!

SFI has had a PROBLEM with Concorde Group!!!

Some "members" of Concorde have somehow gotten
e-mail addresses of many SFI affiliates and are
e-mailing them telling them SFI is no good...and
that they should join Concorde.

What is disturbing is that when it is reported, the company replies that they "will advise the
member so it does not happen again". Then it
happens again.

If Life Force IS a decent company, they need to
DUMP Concorde Group!
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Let's Get it Clear

AUTHOR: Mara - (U.S.A.)

After reading all this, I wanted to be sure that two points are clear, and then share my brief experience with the Concorde Group. 1. Life Force International is a reputable company, with excellent products and a 20+ year history of exemplary business practice (I did some research before I became involved and personally use the product.) 2. The Concorde Group is the name of one line of "marketeers" of the product that Life Force International produces. A person can enroll with LFI and earn residual income from LFI, or they can enroll with LFI by joining the Concorde Group and still earn that residual income from LFI along with a SECOND source of residual income by recruiting more people to join the Concorde Group's marketing "leg". The Concorde Group offered me dedicated upline support, training, and the combined experience of successful people to build a home-based business. The "free" website they initially referenced was only free while I was considering joining. Once I joined, there was a monthly fee for that website. Concorde Group REQUIRED a minimum monthly purchase (which was not so minimum to me) of Life Force's products in order to maintain my ability to earn residual income from Concorde - although my residual income from LFI would continue with a smaller monthly product purchase/use, Concorde's requirement was about 3 times that amount. Then they began introducing more and more services AT A COST, like training tapes that were automatically shipped and charged to my credit card and you had to find and subscribe to your own auto responder (another monthly cost) to recruit; and purchase "leads" (which you need with just about any recruiting-type MLM.) The only thing I can say that is positive about the Concorde Group is that there was all the support and training you might need to be successful, IF you were willing to pay for it and IF you were willing to work the business. I soon found out that I wasn't the only person feeling the way I did, and there was an EASY way out, without having to disassociate myself from LFI. I just cancelled my Concorde website and my affiliation with Concorde Group. No problem, real simple and they responded immediately. I am still using Life Force International products, but am working with others in a new marketing group "richandhealthy" (which includes many of those experienced and successful upline members I previously mentioned). It's more product focussed and less recruiting pressure. The system is more friendly, the website is free, less costly product purchase requirements to qualify for the residual income, and quality leads in smaller packages (making it easy to start slower and build as I can) or larger product purchases and larger leads packages if I want to build faster. I have tried at least 5 different internet marketing offers (some more expensive than the Concorde Group), and though the Concorde Group's style may work for some people, in my humble opinion, it's doesn't work for those of us who have limited financial resources from which to draw for building a "solid" on-line business that will produce residual income.
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AUTHOR: Mara - (U.S.A.)

After reading all this, I wanted to be sure that two points are clear, and then share my brief experience with the Concorde Group. 1. Life Force International is a reputable company, with excellent products and a 20+ year history of exemplary business practice (I did some research before I became involved and personally use the product.) 2. The Concorde Group is the name of one line of "marketeers" of the product that Life Force International produces. A person can enroll with LFI and earn residual income from LFI, or they can enroll with LFI by joining the Concorde Group and still earn that residual income from LFI along with a SECOND source of residual income by recruiting more people to join the Concorde Group's marketing "leg". The Concorde Group offered me dedicated upline support, training, and the combined experience of successful people to build a home-based business. The "free" website they initially referenced was only free while I was considering joining. Once I joined, there was a monthly fee for that website. Concorde Group REQUIRED a minimum monthly purchase (which was not so minimum to me) of Life Force's products in order to maintain my ability to earn residual income from Concorde - although my residual income from LFI would continue with a smaller monthly product purchase/use, Concorde's requirement was about 3 times that amount. Then they began introducing more and more services AT A COST, like training tapes that were automatically shipped and charged to my credit card and you had to find and subscribe to your own auto responder (another monthly cost) to recruit; and purchase "leads" (which you need with just about any recruiting-type MLM.) The only thing I can say that is positive about the Concorde Group is that there was all the support and training you might need to be successful, IF you were willing to pay for it and IF you were willing to work the business. I soon found out that I wasn't the only person feeling the way I did, and there was an EASY way out, without having to disassociate myself from LFI. I just cancelled my Concorde website and my affiliation with Concorde Group. No problem, real simple and they responded immediately. I am still using Life Force International products, but am working with others in a new marketing group "richandhealthy" (which includes many of those experienced and successful upline members I previously mentioned). It's more product focussed and less recruiting pressure. The system is more friendly, the website is free, less costly product purchase requirements to qualify for the residual income, and quality leads in smaller packages (making it easy to start slower and build as I can) or larger product purchases and larger leads packages if I want to build faster. I have tried at least 5 different internet marketing offers (some more expensive than the Concorde Group), and though the Concorde Group's style may work for some people, in my humble opinion, it's doesn't work for those of us who have limited financial resources from which to draw for building a "solid" on-line business that will produce residual income.
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AUTHOR: Mara - (U.S.A.)

After reading all this, I wanted to be sure that two points are clear, and then share my brief experience with the Concorde Group. 1. Life Force International is a reputable company, with excellent products and a 20+ year history of exemplary business practice (I did some research before I became involved and personally use the product.) 2. The Concorde Group is the name of one line of "marketeers" of the product that Life Force International produces. A person can enroll with LFI and earn residual income from LFI, or they can enroll with LFI by joining the Concorde Group and still earn that residual income from LFI along with a SECOND source of residual income by recruiting more people to join the Concorde Group's marketing "leg". The Concorde Group offered me dedicated upline support, training, and the combined experience of successful people to build a home-based business. The "free" website they initially referenced was only free while I was considering joining. Once I joined, there was a monthly fee for that website. Concorde Group REQUIRED a minimum monthly purchase (which was not so minimum to me) of Life Force's products in order to maintain my ability to earn residual income from Concorde - although my residual income from LFI would continue with a smaller monthly product purchase/use, Concorde's requirement was about 3 times that amount. Then they began introducing more and more services AT A COST, like training tapes that were automatically shipped and charged to my credit card and you had to find and subscribe to your own auto responder (another monthly cost) to recruit; and purchase "leads" (which you need with just about any recruiting-type MLM.) The only thing I can say that is positive about the Concorde Group is that there was all the support and training you might need to be successful, IF you were willing to pay for it and IF you were willing to work the business. I soon found out that I wasn't the only person feeling the way I did, and there was an EASY way out, without having to disassociate myself from LFI. I just cancelled my Concorde website and my affiliation with Concorde Group. No problem, real simple and they responded immediately. I am still using Life Force International products, but am working with others in a new marketing group "richandhealthy" (which includes many of those experienced and successful upline members I previously mentioned). It's more product focussed and less recruiting pressure. The system is more friendly, the website is free, less costly product purchase requirements to qualify for the residual income, and quality leads in smaller packages (making it easy to start slower and build as I can) or larger product purchases and larger leads packages if I want to build faster. I have tried at least 5 different internet marketing offers (some more expensive than the Concorde Group), and though the Concorde Group's style may work for some people, in my humble opinion, it's doesn't work for those of us who have limited financial resources from which to draw for building a "solid" on-line business that will produce residual income.
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#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Let's Get it Clear

AUTHOR: Mara - (U.S.A.)

After reading all this, I wanted to be sure that two points are clear, and then share my brief experience with the Concorde Group. 1. Life Force International is a reputable company, with excellent products and a 20+ year history of exemplary business practice (I did some research before I became involved and personally use the product.) 2. The Concorde Group is the name of one line of "marketeers" of the product that Life Force International produces. A person can enroll with LFI and earn residual income from LFI, or they can enroll with LFI by joining the Concorde Group and still earn that residual income from LFI along with a SECOND source of residual income by recruiting more people to join the Concorde Group's marketing "leg". The Concorde Group offered me dedicated upline support, training, and the combined experience of successful people to build a home-based business. The "free" website they initially referenced was only free while I was considering joining. Once I joined, there was a monthly fee for that website. Concorde Group REQUIRED a minimum monthly purchase (which was not so minimum to me) of Life Force's products in order to maintain my ability to earn residual income from Concorde - although my residual income from LFI would continue with a smaller monthly product purchase/use, Concorde's requirement was about 3 times that amount. Then they began introducing more and more services AT A COST, like training tapes that were automatically shipped and charged to my credit card and you had to find and subscribe to your own auto responder (another monthly cost) to recruit; and purchase "leads" (which you need with just about any recruiting-type MLM.) The only thing I can say that is positive about the Concorde Group is that there was all the support and training you might need to be successful, IF you were willing to pay for it and IF you were willing to work the business. I soon found out that I wasn't the only person feeling the way I did, and there was an EASY way out, without having to disassociate myself from LFI. I just cancelled my Concorde website and my affiliation with Concorde Group. No problem, real simple and they responded immediately. I am still using Life Force International products, but am working with others in a new marketing group "richandhealthy" (which includes many of those experienced and successful upline members I previously mentioned). It's more product focussed and less recruiting pressure. The system is more friendly, the website is free, less costly product purchase requirements to qualify for the residual income, and quality leads in smaller packages (making it easy to start slower and build as I can) or larger product purchases and larger leads packages if I want to build faster. I have tried at least 5 different internet marketing offers (some more expensive than the Concorde Group), and though the Concorde Group's style may work for some people, in my humble opinion, it's doesn't work for those of us who have limited financial resources from which to draw for building a "solid" on-line business that will produce residual income.
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#7 Consumer Comment

Words of caution ..avoid these types of "businesses" unless you have money to burn.

AUTHOR: Tregg - (U.S.A.)

I would caution anyone considering an "investment" in this company to be wary. It is designed exactly the way "2Xtreme Performance International" was, selling the EXACT same types of wellness products.

Regretfully, I participated in that scam, worked the "business" to the letter spending thousands of dollars for very little return. They too made it sound simple, inexpensive, placed individuals in my downline and promised a "residual income beyond my wildest imagination in 12-18 months".

The founder of that program, John Polk, is in a Texas prison and the company has completely evaporated (or perhaps re-incarnated as "The Concorde Group"). My advice is to avoid these types of "businesses" unless you have money to burn.
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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds

FIND A COMPANY YOU CAN LOVE

AUTHOR: Jason - ()

RE the concorde group..

this group gives you 2 people under you before asking for money..if you join and pay money.you dont get help..you must pay for leads and figure ot how to promote you business..if you look at six figure income you'll see the same set up..althought they may sell different prouducts.BUT they set you up the same..infact you will see 10000 of people below you ..REALIZE THEY ONLY PLACE 2 BELOW YOU..THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOT PAID YET..YOU CAN ONLY GET 2 MAX under you..now

At this point your on your own so if both do nothing you ..back to saquare one with only the wolfs at your BUTT..remember you must be able to work alone..and find your own employees..OR YOU WILL FAIL..LEARN TO BE A MARKETER..EXEPT to pay for leads .EXPECT for it to take lots of time /money before you learn to over come problems..

if it was easy to mass market prouducts spam wouldnt happen..so take the time to FIND A COMPANY YOU CAN LOVE..a prouduct you can say wow i really would use that even if i never would sell it..
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AUTHOR: Jason - ()

RE the concorde group..

this group gives you 2 people under you before asking for money..if you join and pay money.you dont get help..you must pay for leads and figure ot how to promote you business..if you look at six figure income you'll see the same set up..althought they may sell different prouducts.BUT they set you up the same..infact you will see 10000 of people below you ..REALIZE THEY ONLY PLACE 2 BELOW YOU..THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOT PAID YET..YOU CAN ONLY GET 2 MAX under you..now

At this point your on your own so if both do nothing you ..back to saquare one with only the wolfs at your BUTT..remember you must be able to work alone..and find your own employees..OR YOU WILL FAIL..LEARN TO BE A MARKETER..EXEPT to pay for leads .EXPECT for it to take lots of time /money before you learn to over come problems..

if it was easy to mass market prouducts spam wouldnt happen..so take the time to FIND A COMPANY YOU CAN LOVE..a prouduct you can say wow i really would use that even if i never would sell it..
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#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds

FIND A COMPANY YOU CAN LOVE

AUTHOR: Jason - ()

RE the concorde group..

this group gives you 2 people under you before asking for money..if you join and pay money.you dont get help..you must pay for leads and figure ot how to promote you business..if you look at six figure income you'll see the same set up..althought they may sell different prouducts.BUT they set you up the same..infact you will see 10000 of people below you ..REALIZE THEY ONLY PLACE 2 BELOW YOU..THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOT PAID YET..YOU CAN ONLY GET 2 MAX under you..now

At this point your on your own so if both do nothing you ..back to saquare one with only the wolfs at your BUTT..remember you must be able to work alone..and find your own employees..OR YOU WILL FAIL..LEARN TO BE A MARKETER..EXEPT to pay for leads .EXPECT for it to take lots of time /money before you learn to over come problems..

if it was easy to mass market prouducts spam wouldnt happen..so take the time to FIND A COMPANY YOU CAN LOVE..a prouduct you can say wow i really would use that even if i never would sell it..
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#11 UPDATE EX-employee responds

FIND A COMPANY YOU CAN LOVE

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RE the concorde group..

this group gives you 2 people under you before asking for money..if you join and pay money.you dont get help..you must pay for leads and figure ot how to promote you business..if you look at six figure income you'll see the same set up..althought they may sell different prouducts.BUT they set you up the same..infact you will see 10000 of people below you ..REALIZE THEY ONLY PLACE 2 BELOW YOU..THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOT PAID YET..YOU CAN ONLY GET 2 MAX under you..now

At this point your on your own so if both do nothing you ..back to saquare one with only the wolfs at your BUTT..remember you must be able to work alone..and find your own employees..OR YOU WILL FAIL..LEARN TO BE A MARKETER..EXEPT to pay for leads .EXPECT for it to take lots of time /money before you learn to over come problems..

if it was easy to mass market prouducts spam wouldnt happen..so take the time to FIND A COMPANY YOU CAN LOVE..a prouduct you can say wow i really would use that even if i never would sell it..
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#12 UPDATE Employee

Concorde is not a scam

AUTHOR: Cathy - ()

To Whom It May Concern,



I trust that the person(s) who read this and have the choice to print it or not are not against the Industry of Networkmarketing at large or regardless of my comments, they will fall on deaf ears. With that said, I will type my comments anyway in the hopes that this time I am spending is not for 'not'.



The Concorde Group is what it is. It is an online Marketing System devised by 3 individuals whom have been Life Force Distributors for more than 3 years. They chose this system to be able to offer to those struggeling to do MLM the 'old fashioned' way a new and revolutionary way to build their business with Life Force. I am one of those who was struggeling the old way. The upshot is our system works for THOSE WHO WORK IT. Our system does NOT work for those who DO NOT work it. I could go on about how my check has increased thanx to the Concorde System but I won't do that.



I will agree with the comment that the Customer Service portion of Concorde has a lot to be desired. It is very difficult to communicate with anyone who seemingly 'runs' the Concorde system and we have urged them many times to address this issue. That does NOT mean that they wish to 'take' anyones money. It simply means that are too busy for their own good.



If someone wants to cancel, they can indeed cancel simply by calling Life Force International. Their Customer Service is STELLAR and they will graciously accept any and all cancellations. 800-531-4877.



They (Life Force) have nothing to do with cancelling the Concorde Web Site as that is left to the individuals who conceived the Concorde System. There is a link in ALL replicating web sites that have been purchased to 'CANCEL' the site. It is there for anyone who wishes to cancel. It is not hidden. My experience is people do not look for the cancellation link, they ask their sponsor how to cancel and if the sponsor is not 'active' or if they are 'outta the loop' they may not reply to the request and hence, it appears it is the Concorde who is not cooperative when in fact, it is the persons sponsor who did not reply. Again, there is a link within the persons Concorde site that says "TO CANCEL YOUR CONCORDE WEB SITE.....". Some like to complain.....such is life.



RE: Their method of advertising is based on human nature. It is a method that works simply because man operates on the fear of loss factor. THIS IS A FACT. If you are a smart marketer and you know what is going to drive traffic to your site, you use the best method you can find. The fear of loss happens to be the best method.





However, that is simply what DRIVES people TO THE SITE. At that point, the person is invited to hear a call that is live every 4 days. One of the FIRST things mentioned on the call is the fact that "THIS IS NOT A DOWNLINE BUILDING CLUB and if you are looking to 'get rich quickly' or get rich from someone else's efforts, this is certainly NOT what you are looking for".



The site also has lots of training on HOW to work the business and NONE of it says to 'sit back' and let your upline make you rich. The ones complaning that it does not work are those who are looking and hoping for a free ride. They are right by the way, IT DOES NOT WORK if you do not work it. However, take it from me who works it full time, it works extremely well when you DO work it.



Bottom line: 95% of people are looking for a free ride. Sad but true. We DO indeed give a lot of assistance to the new person building their first leg for them. But after that, they need to actually DO something in order to continue growing their business and their check. Show me someone who has worked the Concorde correctly, caring about those who join and showing them the way and I will show you someone who concurs that it works. Show me someone who wants a free ride and expects the upline to make them rich, and I will show you someone who calls this a scam. Given that 95% are looking for a free ride, does it not make sense that many are going to cry scam? Seems few people accept responsibility these days........responsibility



A. For buying into 'hype' to begin with. Shame on them.



B. For not admitting they did NOTHING to grow their business so of course it won't work for them. (They obviously did not even get on the call they were invited to OR they would have heard the very words I stated above that is given on each and every call). And I GUARANTEE YOU they did not speak to me. I tell ALL that I speak with what to expect.



In closing, regardless of your opinion of the Concorde PLEASE PLEASE do your own due diligence on Life Force International in San Diego Ca. It does me no good to tell you how stellar they are, you can do your own due diligence on them. Rock solid people, company, and products. I certainly hope that the Concorde Group DOES improve their customer service and I further hope that all sponsors TEND TO THEIR downline. But when all is said and done, it is LIFE FORCE who manufactuers the products, it is LIFE FORCE who cuts the checks, and it is LIFE FORCE who has been around for a long time and will be for years and years to come. They are running away with NO ONE's money. They deeply care about their distributors.



WORD TO THE LAZY: STAY AWAY FROM CONCORDE or at least from my organization. We work!

WORD TO ALL: There is no such thing as a free ride. Once you really understand that, you can then go and pick the 'program' you wish to work. It is called Net"WORK" Marketing for a reason!



God Bless
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#13 UPDATE Employee

Get Real!

AUTHOR: Roger - ()

Life Force has been around for over 20 years and the choice is yours to join or not. Concorde Group is a network marketing group and also has been very sucessful. Look around on the net there are many postive reports on this company.
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#14 Consumer Suggestion

An outrageous VERY expensive scam....

AUTHOR: anti - ()

Do you know the "send me $50 and I will give you the secret of how to make millions" - type scams?

Concorde/Mr. Brian's scam worst.



PAY $200 + sign up for a $20/month membership (that hard or impossible to cancel) THEN they tell you how to make millions. (By signing up/ripping off more people for the same scam.)



Here is one part of the Concorde sign up page:



"Order one of the monthly product packages below and you will receive Complete access to our Members only area, Full use of all of the Concorde Group's Training and all of our sponsoring tools.



SELECT ONE:

CORNERSTONES for OVERALL VITALITY ($167.50 US founds + tax + shipping)

TRIMWISE for WEIGHTLOSS ($160.00 US founds + tax + shipping)

EIGHT PACK Optimum Health for entire family ($155.00 US founds + tax + shipping)

Web Site Options:

Please charge me $19.95 US founds per month for the web site

...................

Method of Payment: MasterCard Visa

Card Number: Exp: /

Please understand your monthly Life Force Product purchase and your monthly Concorde Group Website order are automatic monthly charges until you cancel them........"



Dave, I share with you the secret FREE: start a similar scam, thousands will sign up, then dissappear with the millions....





Ps.: if you get spam e-mail forward it to the ftc - without any comment: UCE@FTC.GOV



AND report it here, so you can help others...







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