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  • Submitted: Thu, April 04, 2013
  • Updated: Thu, April 04, 2013

  • Reported By: NDON70 — CAmpbell California
Crown Corr
7100 West 21st Avenue Gary, Indiana United States of America

Crown Corr Unprofessional, unqualified, card buyers, irresponsible, unsafe, harassment, derogatory statements, demeaning to their employees, bad leadership, perform dangerously, liars. Gary, Indiana

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: 24 union complaints

*Author of original report: In reply to your comment;

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: I myself have not worked for this company,but was on the same site as they were/are.

*Author of original report: Crown Corr - Part II work & behavior to their employee's.

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To whom it  may concern,                   March 7, 2013

My feelings are that the employer Crown Corr. Inc. (Bill Belanger) is writing reviews that are not true and their employees are dismissed for reasons other than what he is writing. I find it irresponsible for a superintend to say that his employees dont work up to journeyman level at their trade and then lay-off people without so much as a verbal warning and or a written warning explaining what their expectation are of their employees.

I myself feel the journeyman all were working up to or beyond what was expected of them all.On more than one occasion Ryan Belanger had made comments that reflect on me personally by clapping and commenting when I was carrying material from one side of stadium to other end. Ryan said to get the material carry up the stairs to fourth floor, and not to take the elevator. [continued below]....
..... And when I was done with one task Jessie Flores called Bill Belanger on the radio and ask, what was the next job that he wanted me to do. Bill Belanger would say to go help someone else if I can handle it. A very derogatory statement, inferring Im not as good as everyone else. A very demeaning statement for anyone who would be standing next to the radio when he says stuff like that. I know theyre an out of state contractor and maybe where theyre from people talk like that but in their letter titled (Harassment Policy) they prohibit conduct including but not limited to: Verbal, Physical and or Derogatory Comments. I dont know for a fact that they are saying everyone is unqualified, but by saying that, They open up the chance to hire out of state employees like their family and friends to come here and take the jobs of qualified local 104 personal who have worked in Santa Clara for their whole life and know their jobs like the back of their hands.  When asking for someone to help lift heavy material and carry it with me, which is what they tell you at the safety meeting to do. They would say you dont need help. They have people grinding metal without the proper safety gear such as goggles, ear-plugs, dust mask. When I asked for them they didnt have any for two days. They tell you to tie off when youre working but they dont have enough safety gear (yo-yos, slings, tie strap) for the people they have on the job. In orientation they told us to use our own equipment for each specific job. I have not used any equipment with Crown Corrs name on it. Each day working I have been using all the other trades; boom lifts, scissor lifts, and ladders.

 When they paired me up with another lady working on steel, she was showing me the way they showed her cutting the steel. She laid two 4 x 4 wood studs, against pile of steel. Making a ramp to slide the 14 foot steel tubing down from pile safely. It also made the steel easier to rotate, while cutting each length down and notched to different sizes. She had just finished showing me how to cut the first piece of steel. When Bill Belanger came over to us, and kicked the ramp down. Then he jumped up on the pile of steel, kicking all the top row to the ground. Her and I were both asking him what was he doing, or whats going on? He said nothing but started on second row of steel tubing, throwing on the ground. Now he made our job more difficult, and kicked our steel out of the numbers we had in order.

 Our Crown Corr safety guy Rich Marcotte, looked totally shocked at Bills Belangers behavior. Now our job was to find the steel tubing numbers, and move from all over the ground.When one of the guys said first thing in the morning he had a dental appointment he put in request two weeks ahead of time. The boss said ok, he remembered. Then by lunch when the guy left for dentist appointment, the boss went over there and sent home the two others guys that was working with him. Like a punishment for one guy leaving. This has happen three different times since I have been here on the job. Another time the boss came up to me asking who was complaining about wanting to go home? I said there was no one on our crew who complained? The boss said he heard from someone that our group was complaining to go home? Then he sent us all home at lunch, but let another crew stay to work the rest of the day plus over time. The way this job is being ran, raises a lot of questions. I see them preaching to be safe, but none of the safety precautions is being used on the job. Since I have been on the job, after each accident then they let workers have the safety equipment they needed before the accident. In less then thirty days, I have witness over twelve plus accidents that could of been safe environment.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

24 union complaints

AUTHOR: local104member - ()

i worked there, for crown corr, and i have to say i agree with what was stated above, this company cut corners every chance it got, was a saftey meeting every monday, as soon as safety guy went away all that was said in meeting was discarded by permanent employess/foreman, i simply said the controls on my lift were not working and they threatend to lay me off, i saw many unprofessional things take place, im not gonna sit here and go through a list, all i will say is i will never work for this company again

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AUTHOR: DON70 - ()

We’re not spoiled, we’re safe. If like you say you have never worked for Crown Corr, then how can you know what your talking about.

 

If any company comes to California to steal jobs from locals, they need to be up to date not in the 70’s on their safety practices. Weekly accidents that could of been prevented, with safety PPE & education.

 

8 for 8 is a no brainer! An 8 hour work day; ten minute break in the morning, half hour lunch, and a ten minute break in afternoon then home. If you completed our five year school in Santa Clara, you are some of the best sheet metal workers in the country. If your an out of state card buyer stealing jobs from locals, then go back home to what ever state your from that lacks safety protocal.

 

It sounds like your not physically fit, then you shouldn’t be working in local 104. Each Union brother and sister in Local 104 are qualified professional sheet metal workers!

 

Its not a blame game, if your guilty. Its called the truth, and right to know for your own safety. 

 

Once again you didn’t work for the company, you should not even be commenting on this situation. If you are a true sheet metal worker in Local 104, I am ashamed that you would even question the work ethic and character of any of our union brothers, and sisters. You obviously have a bias towards Crown Corr company.

 

For your information not one worker, it is over twenty-four union employee complaints on just the 49er Stadium job. Each union strong employee, knows their job, practices, and policies. Crown Corr has more complaints, and hazards still being settled. The company is guilty of weekly accidents, and harassment stress on workers. If you did your research, you would know of this company in trouble around the United States for unsafe practices, and many serious accidents /and deaths.

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#3 REBUTTAL Individual responds

I myself have not worked for this company,but was on the same site as they were/are.

AUTHOR: sjunionsmworker - ()

I talked to others on this job site who worked for the company and only heard a small amount of bad about them, but then the one ranting was not a person I think can carry the level expected from old school sheetmetal workers who know whatfull day of work is.

We must admit here in San Jose/Calif we are semi spoiled in some aspects of our work due to our strict safety policies.

I would imagine for a newer California company our safety practices would and will take time to get use to. 

I would think if a person is having that many problems with an employer that they would say something to the employer themselves to resolve the issue. May be you did? 

I did hear from the workers I spoke to, that they expect 8 for 8 which meant no long lunches or breaks. They also expected everyone to be able to pull their own weight and have the ability to live up to union standards. 

Sometimes we just need to admit to our selves that we may not be as good or strong as we think we are. I know there are times I have had to admit I just could not do the same phsically as one of the other workers can do. I think I got more respect from that admission than doing the blame game.

 

 

 

 

 

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Crown Corr - Part II work & behavior to their employee's.

AUTHOR: ON70 - ()

  1. Unsafe working conditions. [didn’t supply hearing protection, not enough lanyards, safety yo-yo’s, safety goggles, face shield]
  2. Lack of tools to complete job as needed, not enough company tools.
  3. The derogatory comments statements made by their employees.

Ryan { If I could handle doing my job, being a girl and all. Ryan clapping his hands, making statements “Oh glad your able to carry materials” / “Oh look she can lift that yeah!}

Bill { When Jesse (lead guy) calls main boss Bill asking what do you want _ _ _ _ to do next? Over the radio for all the people to hear; Bill says “ Have her go work on the platform cutting material, if she can handle that?” }

  1. By not supplying correct and adequate equipment to perform that are expected.

example: 

(1.6 hrs. work per person, supply [5] workers drilling in eight hour day).

The one drill to share between five workers, and expect to have work from five people done. You can’t expect that work done of five workers with one drill.

Waisting valuable time moving materials from one side of stadium, then moving materials again. Equates to loss of man hours, and non-productive. When moving materials, again not supplying adequate equipment such as: trailer, dolly, golf cart, truck, fork lift, etc. spent all day moving materials, making day unproductive. 

Bad Project Management: 

A project this size - This project was to big for this company.

They had journeyman move materials, back and fourth, losing man hours of doing their job. Set up for failure purposely, then able to request employee from out of state. 

Not the right equipment to complete the work requested by the employer. We were running around to the other trades borrowing equipment; scissor lifts, boom lifts, ladders, cords from all the other trades working on the job.

The reason they lay-off good quality sheet metal workers in my opinion, so they can hirer their out of state buddies. Since the journeyman here are qualified to perform the work in a cost effective manner. The only way they could make them look un-qualified, is to not supply adequate tools and equipment to perform the job of a journeyman sheet metal worker.

example: 

 1.) (1) One drill for five people =  [ 1.6 hours of drill access of an eight hour day.]

 2.) Crown Corr did not have scissor lifts, we had to borrow from the electricians. We borrowed boom lifts from the welders. Also using other trades electrical cords hooked to power boxes.

 Note:

  1. ) Should of ran job in phases - not having material in everyones way.
  2. ) FInish materials left all over, getting dirty, dented, and moved back and fourth.
  3. ) Lack of project management, unprofessionalism, unqualified bosses.
  4. ) Scheduling was not done in proper order.
  5. ) Accidents on the job that could of been avoided, using proper safety protective equipment.
  6. ) Beware of taking the lowest bidders on a job. 
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