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Complaint Review: Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC and Curtis Brown USA, LLC

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  • Submitted: Sat, February 23, 2013
  • Updated: Fri, March 01, 2013

  • Reported By: chopperwerks — Palmetto Florida United States of America
Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC and Curtis Brown USA, LLC
Internet United States of America

Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC and Curtis Brown USA, LLC Manser, Very Rich, Truth Maker, Mary Danials, Battle Cat, Hooligan80, Author 187 CURTIS BROWN OF TYCOON GROUP, LLC AND CUTIS BROWN USA, LLC ATTEMPTS TO STEAL $5,000.00, LOSES CREDIT CARD DISPUTE , Internet

*Author of original report: Curtis Brown is Steve Patterson

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: I Just Discovered Proof Positve Robert Rowe is a Con Artist

*Author of original report: Curtis Brown alias truthmaker

*Consumer Comment: Attorneys for Curtis Brown and Paypal Say Robert Rowe Has Commited Credit Card Fraud

*Author of original report: CURTIS Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC, AND Curtis Brown USA, LLC. WHINING AND CRYING IN HIS BEER

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Robert Rowe of Custom Choppwerks May Get 10 Years in Federal Prison

*Author of original report: Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC, Curtis Brown USA, LLC. proves he can't stop lying.

*Consumer Comment: Robert Rowe Does All He Can to Not Go to Prison

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Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC and Curtis Brown USA, LLC attempted to steal $5,000.00 I sent him for his alleged services which turned out to be a scam.

Fortunately, I sent $5,000.00 using my credit card through my PayPal account. I was able to dispute the $5,000.00 payment to Curtis Brown. PayPal and the credit card issuer saw right through Curtis Brown and his lies and fraud. PayPal and the credit card issuer ruled in my favor. Curtis brown has attempted to claim on The Rip Off Report he is appealing the decision in an attempt to save his false image. THERE IS NO APPEAL.

I'VE NOW BEEN INFORMED CURTIS BROWN OWES PAYPAL $5,000.00 AND CAN'T PAY IT.

I was fortunate to have a recourse in getting my money back. Unfortunately, others were not because they bank wired Curtis Brown's business $5,000.00 each. They NEVER received their money back and are now having to pursue criminal charges against Curtis Brown. Curtis Brown scams innocent people. It's that simple. 

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 02/23/2013 08:16 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Curtis-Brown-of-Tycoon-Group-LLC-and-Curtis-Brown-USA-LLC/internet/Curtis-Brown-of-Tycoon-Group-LLC-and-Curtis-Brown-USA-LLC-Manser-Very-Rich-Truth-Maker-1019021. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Author of original report

Curtis Brown is Steve Patterson

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Curtis,

You come on this website with all your aliases and it easy to see right through you. I've posted numerous documents showing everything you say or claim is a lie. You cheat people. That's what your income has been derived from in the past. Curtis Brown now has no income because no one will do business with him when they read The Rip Off Report.

Curtis Brown just lost a credit card dispute he claimed he re-opened. I post documents clearly showing he lied. Curtis Brown now owes PayPal $5,000.00 for losing the credit card dispute which he doesn't have the money to pay.

Curtis Brown stole $5,000.00 from Cassandra O'Donnell. Curtis Brown claims Cassandra O'Donnell is not Curtis Brown's client and that Curtis Brown has nothing to do with Cassandra losing her $5,000.00.

I post Cassandra O'Donnell's bank statement showing $5,000.00 was bank wired to Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC and Curtis Brown gives no explanation of why he kept Cassandra O'Donnell's $5,000.00. Especially if Cassandra was not Curtis Brown's false claim that Cassandra was not his client.

Curtis Brown did the same thing to Bill Yeager and stole $5,000.00 from Mr. Yeager. Curtis Brown attempted the same thing with me. I sent $5,000.00 to Curtis Brown through PayPal using my credit card for a $500,000.00 loan Curtis Brown said he could do. The loan was a scam to get me to send money. Curtis Brown got caught lost the PayPal credit card dispute and now owes PayPal $5,000.00 which is money he doesn't have.

I cheated on my ex-wife ? LOL, LOL, LOL. My business was broke ? Really........ well my business just obtained a $500,000.00 loan and were also just offered a 1.4 million dollar line of credit with a major bank. The banks don't do loans like that if the business is poorly run or is broke. If that were the case there Curtis, why did you take Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. on as a client for a $500,000.00 loan ?

See ? That's the problem.................. your lies to discredit me just don't make sense. Cheated on my ex-wife, huh ? You have quite an imagination. Besides, it's funny you mention my ex-wife (using an alias of course) as we really are going out to dinner tonight together. 

Curtis Brown you and your businesses have been exposed as a fraud. You will never be able rehabilitate a good reputation. So now you threaten through an alias that you are going on Google this weekend to publish more lies about Custom ChopperWerks, Inc.. So what, besides I'm just waiting for the criminal investigation by authorities against Curtis Brown is completed and Curtis brown is arrested.
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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

I Just Discovered Proof Positve Robert Rowe is a Con Artist

AUTHOR: Tycoon Group LLC - (United States of America)

Robert Rowe, you have delighted in your wicked way, lies and deceit.  You've never had any credibility and all readers should do their own fact finding and search for Custom Chopperwerk and/or Robert Rowe.  When I look at all the blogs and people now coming forward it is amazing!!! 

If anyone else's reputation has been harmed, you have been scammed or you have lost money with Robert Rowe, please contact me.  You can find my telephone number in my profile with the Better Business Bureau under Tycoon Group.  I would love to speak with you. 

Bob, Steve Peterson was right - you never made it to the end zone.  So much for early celebrations!  Do yourself a favor and start reading the bible, because whatever you think you're doing isn't working and isn't right...  A major announcement will soon follow, so laugh about that on your way to prison  - with your fake laugh.
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#3 Author of original report

Curtis Brown alias truthmaker

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Curtis,

Back to using aliases again ?

As far as your BBB report, it was rated NR with an alert. Curtis Brown called the BBB and told them he was no longer doing financial advising and only doing real estate which is a lie. So what else is new, Curtis ? Everyone saw the NR rating. However, there are pending complaints against Tycoon Group, LLC so that rating temporary and will go down the toilet where it belongs, Curtis.

Curtis Brown's lawyers ? LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL. Curtis Brown can't afford a lawyer. Curtis Brown can't even pay PayPal the $5,000.00 Curtis Brown now owes PayPal. However, PayPal will get it out of Curtis Brown.

Whaaaaaaa, Whaaaaa, Whaaaaaa. Still whining and crying about losing the $5,000.00 credit card dispute are we ? No attorney told Curtis Brown the credit card dispute involved credit card fraud. Even the worst attorney isn't that stupid. This bogus credit card fraud claim is a figment of Curtis Brown's imagination. LOL, LOL, LOL.

Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC and Curtis Brown USA, LLC stole $10,000.00 from two of his clients (Cassandra O'Donnell and Bill Yeager) that have posted here on The Rip Off Report. Curtis Brown is nothing more than a crook. Not only is Curtis brown a crook, he's a stupid crook. 

Curtis Brown has been proven wrong on everything he's posted here on The Rip Off Report. I've posted documents that clearly show Curtis Brown to be a liar. The last one of several lies, was Curtis brown claiming the PayPal credit card dispute had been re-opened. I post documentation that back facts. All Curtis Brown does is run his mouth making bogus threats with no substance. Just hot air. I guess living out of his car is really starting to bother him. LOL, LOL, LOL.

The idiot (Curtis Brown) is now claiming Cassandra O'Donnell whom he stole thousands of dollars from is conspiring against him (Curtis Brown). Curtis Brown and his businesses along with his scams are plastered all over the internet and no one in their right mind would do business with Curtis Brown now. That's a good thing.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Attorneys for Curtis Brown and Paypal Say Robert Rowe Has Commited Credit Card Fraud

AUTHOR: Truth Maker - (United States of America)

Hey Robert Rowe,

Curtis has asked me not to write, but I'm not going to just stand by and let you have your say that easy.  First, he doesn't drink beer.  Now THAT was funny!!! LOL!!  In fact, he doesn't even drink.  It's just a long list of yours lies.  No biggy, nobody believes a word you say.  Robert Rowe is just being Robert Rowe.  The problem is you have zero credibility.  You say Tycoon Group is run out of town and has lost it's BBB rating,  That the BBB has put out an alert.  Hmm... I just checked and it looks like a company in excellent standing with an "A Rating" and the only complaint in 7 years is from you.  Wonder why you lie so much Robert Rowe??  Wonder why you got 8 complaints on your BBB.

Second you haven't quite made it into the END ZONE cowboy.  You started celebrating to early, while Curtis is right on your heels.  I little birdie tells me Paypal's attorneys will be turning on you in short order.  They won't there money you stole and Curtis ain't paying your bill.  It seems you actually breached the service contract and now you got other troubles brewing.

Third, there may be a little surprise personally for you this weekend, so check google under Custom Chopperwerks.  I hear a rumor that something is happening.

Fourth, I heard you cheated on your Ex-wife.  Wow, how many of the 10 commandments have you done!!!!  There's basically 1) adultery, 2) bearing false witness, i.e. lying, 3) stealing.  I'm trying to talk Curtis into posting everything about you, so that you can crawl back under that rock from whence you came.  Yeah, I like how you don't post all three pages of your Agreement.  You don't want to show page one, because it clearly shows Curtis does not guarantee you funding.  You said Curtis made you promises and guarantees - yet he's been in the industry for years without a problem until you snaked along and charmed him with your BS.  Then when another investor asked to see your financials and saw how broke you were and poor mishandling of your money the deal fell through. 

Fifth, you race to put up Paypals notice because you know it's about to change.  You know Curtis will make you pay.  I wouldn't want to be in your shoes.  I've said all along your like Wild E Cayote - constantly setting traps, thinking you're a genius but getting hammered and literally killing yourself in the process.

You don't sleep at night and you're living in hell and it's plain to see by everyone the way you carry on.  And, I understand you are scared to get served, won't answer your door, much less go outside.  Yet you claim Curtis won't sue you.  You're just one bad apple.  You probably are an embarrassment to your family, I'm sure.  You don't even have anything to piss on with THAT little p***k of yours.
 
I have agreed to testify in court proceedings.  I like the fact that you will go back to prison where you belong.

Stevie
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CURTIS Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC, AND Curtis Brown USA, LLC. WHINING AND CRYING IN HIS BEER

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Curtis Brown,

Geeez Curtis.......... you're really taking getting your butt kicked, and losing the $5,000.00 credit card dispute I filed against you for trying to steal my $5,000.00 pretty hard Aren't you ?Mmmmmmmm, by the way, I thought you said you weren't going to post anymore. You didn't lie again, did you ? Yeah.......... I remember you said something about a silent killer when you made that claim. I guess it isn't silent anymore and no one got killed huh ? 

Well......... I guess since you don't have any business, customers, and definitely no money, you've got to pass the time doing something....... Right ? However, living in a fantasy world and not dealing with reality is not healthy mentally....... Curtis. Let me help you out here and give you a little dose of the real world :

A. Attached to this rebuttal is Exhibit "T" (2 pages). Exhibit "T' is direct from PayPal Resolutions Dept.. It has today's date (02/28/13 see that ?) in the upper right hand corner. Page 2 of Exhibit "T" has the same date in the same location. Now what these documents make very clear is OUR CREDIT CARD DISPUTE CASE IS CLOSED. I've highlight the relevant parts like your name and the fact I won because you couldn't present any evidence to counter my claim against you. See that ? You claimed in several posts 10 days ago you had the case re-opened. Remember that ? See that's what living in a fantasy world will do to you.

B. We both know there is no credit card fraud. If that were the case you would have won the dispute.

C. The case is closed permanently NOT temporarily. The credit card company credited my bank account $5,000.00. That means CASE CLOSED and they don't re-open them. However, if you want to continue to dream............. knock yourself out.

D. Custis Brown now owes PayPal $5,000.00 which he can't pay because Curtis Brown doesn't have the money. PayPal will now come after Curtis Brown legally for the $5,000.00. Curtis read your contract when you opened up your account with PayPal. PayPal is located in California with ebay. That should be fun to watch.

D. Attached is Exhibit "I" which I have posted previously. Exhibit "I" is the contract Curtis Brown authored and Curtis Brown and myself signed. It clearly states the State of Florida has jurisdiction in any dispute that would arise between, Curtis Brown, Tycoon Group, LLC, Robert Rowe and Custom ChopperWerks, Inc.. Curtis Brown even emailed me stating he wouldn't come to Florida to litigate because it cost to much money. Money Curtis Brown doesn't have. Especially when Curtis Brown no longer has an income. So Curtis............ why don't get out of that fantasy world you are in before you lose it altogether. I know living out of your car is not comfortable, but you've got to get a grip.

E. There is no lawsuit filed by Curtis Brown here in Florida. Yes, I would like that as you did commit defamation when you posted lies about me being arrested when you knew what you stated was false. Cassandra O'Donnell another person who's money you stole would like that too.

F. Proper service in a lawsuit is made by a certified process server, or law enforcement officer. Certified U.S. Mail doesn't count. Telephone the outfit you purchased that Benny Hill Home Study Do It Yourself Lawyer Program and see if you can get your money back.

Well Curtis.................. sorry to urinate on your campfire. However, I think it's going to be next to impossible to re-hab your image after all this. Being shot down every time by rebuttals containing documents that set the facts straight really doesn't help does it Curtis ? Why ? Because you can't help yourself and have to come back stating all kinds of garbage and I'm forced to make you look stupid over and over again.
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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Robert Rowe of Custom Choppwerks May Get 10 Years in Federal Prison

AUTHOR: Tycoon Group LLC - (United States of America)

Hi Bob,

Tell me something.  We've served you via Certified Mail?  We are trying to get into court.  Why do you keep ignoring the postman?  Why won't you pick up the service?  You wanted legal proceedings so bad, well?  That's what you said, right?  We're ready.  As for you faking out the credit card company and paypal - yes TEMPORARILY  ya got away because we didn't have Comerica Bank's information linking the cashed checks to your Wells Fargo account.  It took much longer than anticipated.  Big gamble on your part.  Short lived though.  But big gamble.  You played Paypal and your credit card company, and it's also a felony under federal jurisdiction.  You really know how to game the system.  I'll give you that.  You gave part of your winnings to Cassandra.  Now she benefits and thus becomes your accessory, because you played to her greed and emotions.  Wow!!!! You are really stupid.

You see the beauty is, you started out with a lie to begin with all along.  We never had ANY intention to take from you.  We never stole from you.  In fact, per our agreement when Toshi Anzai backed out, we promptly sent you your refund.  That should have been end of story.  But, you got so caught up looking cute and talking alot of bull, showing off for whomever.  Hey, you likely felt invincible after you got Paypal initial decision.  What, did you think I was going to let an injustice like that go?  Wow.... That's a misstep is what THAT is.

And, about me not having any money -  I don't even think you believe THAT lie.  LOL!!!!!

When we are finished, you'll think the best thing that could have happened was that Paypal had the information needed prior.  Unfortunately or fortunately, Comerica Bank did not have those traced checks linking you to Wells Fargo and I could not produce it during the first go round.  The fact is, Paypal now knows you did wrong, and the process has gone back to your credit card company for their review in light of the new information that was not at hand before.  Cassandra must think you're Robin Hood!

Regardless of the outcome with your credit card company, you committed the act for which you're looking at up to 10 years in federal prison.  I'm not stopping into your in federal prison for all this crap you started, based on a lie that you were ripped off.  Son, you picked the wrong guy.  Your prank or joke or whatever you want to call it went too far and with the wrong person.  I'm just getting started.

Now, it's really a waste of my time to go on here, so until the correct judgment gets handed I will likely not respond to anymore of your time wasted nonsense.  Shame, shame, shame on you.
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#7 Author of original report

Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC, Curtis Brown USA, LLC. proves he can't stop lying.

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Hey Curtis. 

You posted on the other thread you weren't going to post any more comments. Especially when I've asked you numerous times why you stole Cassandra O'Donnell's $5,000.00 and Bill Yeager's $5,000.00 and wouldn't return their money. I posted the bank statement showing Cassandra O'Donnell bank wired Curtis Brown's business Tycoon Group, LLC $5,000.00. Curtis Brown claims Cassandra was no client of his. OK, so why didn't Curtis Brown return Cassandra O'Donnell's $5,000.00 if she wasn't Curtis Brown's client ? Can't answer that can you Curtis Brown. Curtis Brown avoids that question and refuses to answer it by creating false smoke screens with made up accusations. Come on Curtis........... make up a lie to explain why you stole $10,000.00 from these two people. You tried stealing $5,000.00 with me and lost, scumbag.

Curtis Brown ripped off Bill Yeager the exact same way. I've posted the documents. Curtis Brown won't answer why he didn't return Bill Yeager's $5,000.00 either.

Like I stated Curtis Brown said he wasn't going to post anymore. Well...... Curtis proved himself a liar again.

Another lie Curtis. You know I was never arrested. You have the documents showing I was never arrested and I also posted them here on The Rip Off Report. You (Curtis Brown) even stated that I had NEVER been arrested or convicted of any crime in the PPM you authored. Like I said, another lie regarding my alleged arrest.

You keep lying about credit card fraud. If there had been credit card fraud as you allege, how come you lost on the PayPal/ credit card claim ? There is no credit card fraud you moron.

Are you now going to accuse PayPal and the credit card issuer of conspiring against you like you did with Cassandra O'Donnell and Kim Burge of the CA. Better Business Bureau ? What about the other lie you posted that you had the PayPal dispute re-opened and you were appealing their decision ? Remember that ? Well, the case is closed and won't be re-opened as you were told by PayPal. The reason ? PayPal and the credit card issuer didn't believe Curtis Brown's lies or the fact Curtis Brown couldn't produce evidence to support his lies.

The result ? Curtis Brown lost, and now owes PayPal $5, 000.00 that he (Curtis Brown) can't pay. What happened to Mr. Moneybags Curtis Brown who posted on The Rip Off Report he was a rich guy ? You mean that was another lie ? No surprise there.

Hey Curtis.......... what happened to that lawsuit you were going to file against me for defamation that I was going to be served with about, what, four weeks ago ? You claimed I defamed you by calling you a liar and fraud. Well............ I did, and you still are a liar and a fraud.

You posted here that the lawsuit was on it's way. You were posting that hot air all over The Rip Off Report. Remember ? Then you email me telling me it was going to cost you to much money in legal fees. That's a no brainer, since you don't have the $5,000.00 to pay PayPal for the credit card dispute you lost. Looks like PayPal will sue you for non-payment. PayPal is in California and so is Curtis Brown. At least for the time being. Hey Curtis...... you aren't going to take off to Mexico are you ? LOL, LOL, LOL.
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Robert Rowe Does All He Can to Not Go to Prison

AUTHOR: Truth Maker - (United States of America)

Look up Custom Chopperwerks on Ripoff Report and disregard the above.  All that a man achieves and all that he fails to achieve is the direct result of his own thoughts. In a justly ordered universe, where loss of equipoise would mean total destruction, individual responsibility must be absolute. A man's weakness and strength, purity and impurity, are his own and not another man's. They are brought about by himself and not by another; and they can only be altered by himself, never by another. His condition is also his own, and not another man's. His sufferings and his happiness are evolved from within. As he thinks, so is he; as he continues to think, so he remains.

Robert Rowe of Custom Chopperwerks fails to to heed instructions from the law of universe.

The universe does not favor the greedy, the dishonest, the vicious, although on the mere surface it sometimes may appear to do so. It helps the honest, the magnanimous, the virtuous. All the great teachers of the ages have declared this in varying ways, and to prove it and to know it a man has but to persist in making himself increasingly virtuous by lifting his thoughts.

True Robert Rowe of Custom Choppwerks temporarily faked out Paypal and his credit card company, but new evidence just surfaced in the trace of checks received  by Robert Rowe making his entire ploy, a scam in itself.  Tycoon Group and Curtis Brown have been cleared.  And so Robert Rowe having not received the news to date, commits a felony for credit card fraud and I understand may soon be on his way to federal prison.

Robert Rowe you do not respect the Universal Laws and your ploy to attack on Ripoff Report, so condemns yourself.  Being arrested before, perhaps was not a lesson enough judging from your mugshot.
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