• Report: #1007520

Complaint Review: Custom Chopperwerks

  • Submitted: Fri, February 01, 2013
  • Updated: Fri, June 14, 2013

  • Reported By: Hooligan 80 — Palmetto Florida United States of America
Custom Chopperwerks
2825 Terra Ceia Bay Blvd. PALMETTO, Florida United States of America

Custom Chopperwerks Robert K. Rowe "You'll ever get anyone else's business on here either..." PALMETTO, Florida

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Curtis Brown, Tycoon Group, Curtis Brown USA, liar, thief, scammer

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group/ Curtis Brown USA alias Steve Petersen or whatever lying again

*Consumer Comment: Paypal Officially Goes After Robert Rowe for Fraud

*Consumer Comment: Paypal Officially Goes After Robert Rowe for Fraud

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Curtis Brown lying again and again using aliases

*Consumer Comment: Custom Choppwerks, Inc.

*Consumer Comment: LOL!!!!! Custom Chopperwerks International

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Curtis Brown lying again and again

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Curtis Brown lying again and again

*Consumer Comment: Robert Rowe Arrested

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Curtis Brown lying again and again

*Consumer Comment: Small World

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Curtis Brown lying again

*Consumer Comment: Pants on Fire

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This is aimed at Chopperwerks1: If you sell a product and state that if they send the year make and model the product is supposed to fit, that you will send the product that fits said year, make and model bike, but when you send the product (In this case, forward controls) and they don't fit like you said they will, and then agree to send adapters so they will fit, then that's on your head, not the customers.

As for your business with OCC and American Choppers, I hate to inform you of the following: NO ONE HERE GIVES A %$#@! BECAUSE THEIR BIKES ARE PILES OF %$#@!, so that's not saying much for your business. If you don't sell retail, then why the %$#@! is your product, which I will now call a sh$#@ty product due to the fact that it doesn't fit as claimed by your
company that it would, being sold on a website to the mass public? The means your company sells retail. Now, if you fail to mention that your forward controls will not fit a metric bike without adapters in any ad that features your product (Which a product manufacturer is accountable for doing), then the issue falls with your company. I could go on and on, but I figure you're probably just an $#@!hole since the first names you dropped were Orange County Choppers and American Chopper, and those guys are a**holes that make sh$#@ty showroom pieces that never last on the road, and also another company that doesn't honor their own warranty, and I doubt at this point you'll even make the deal right and don't give a sh$#@t about your customers. So, you'll never get my business, and I doubt you'll ever get anyone else's business on here either. Sounds like you got f**ked over by your ex wife (Since you are divorced now) and basically decided to say f**k any business deals she had, even if they represented your company through your [products being  sold through her.


Respectfully,
Go f$#@! yourself





P.S.: Welcome to the site, you should have read around before you dropped the OCC and American Choppers bomb.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 02/01/2013 05:01 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Custom-Chopperwerks/PALMETTO-Florida-34221/Custom-Chopperwerks-Robert-K-Rowe-Youll-ever-get-anyone-elses-business-on-here-either-1007520. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Curtis Brown, Tycoon Group, Curtis Brown USA, liar, thief, scammer

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - ()

Hey Steve & Truthmaker (Curtis Brown),

Triple dog dare me ? I've got your triple dog dare right here. How's this : Curtis Brown, Tycoon Group, Curtis Brown USA, is a liar, a thief who steals money from his clients like Cassandra O'Donnell, and William Yeager (Read their comments on Rip Off Report), has a fake virtual office, and is nothing but a fraud. Curtis Brown even told Kim Burge of the Better Business Bureau he is no longer in business because he shut his business down. The fact is Curtis brown never had a legitimate business as it was all a sham.

Any claimed N ombs you claim to have are nothing more than more Curtis Brown made up lies just like you lied about me being arrested. It should also be obvious to everyone that Curtis Brown doesn't have all his oars in the water. Especially using all these multiple pesonalities and aliases. 

By the way, I did a little research and it appears there is another Curtis Brown from the same area, same age, that was arrested for child porn. How about that ? That doesn't surprise me at all. What an odd coincidence. I knew Curtis Brown had a warped mind.

As for your alleged document you claim as proof PayPal cleared your name. That alleged document proves nothing as PayPal was not the governing factor in the decision. The governing factor was VISA who ruled in my favor in our dispute. PayPal does not re-open disputes, neither does VISA. My God, you are so stupid Curtis Brown. In any event, like I said, who cares ?

The bottom lne is Curtis Brown, Tycoon Group, and Curtis Brown USA, has been exposed as frauds. Now no one else will get burned or cheated by Curtis Brown and his scam businesses.

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group/ Curtis Brown USA alias Steve Petersen or whatever lying again

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - ()

Curtis Brown or whatever name or whatever name you want to use,

Your a liar. The credit card issuer and PayPal ruled against you and in my favor. The only way PayPal would zero out the balance you owed them is if you paid them the $5,000.00 you owed the for losing the dispute.

Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group/ Curtis Brown USA everyone that reads these stupid posts of yours using an alias knows the guy posting these garbage claims is none other than Curtis Brown. Bedsides who cares ? I won my dispute against you and the credit card issuer and PayPal returned the $5,000.00 you attempted to steal like you did from Cassandra O'Donnell and William Yeager. Everyone that has read the Rip Off Report now knows Curtis Brown is a liar, thief, and scammer. No one is going to use the services of Curtis Brown, Tycoon Group, or Curtis Brown USA. 

You lost Curtis Brown, Tycoon Group, Curtis Brown USA. Now I guess you'll have to find another profession like flipping burgers.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Paypal Officially Goes After Robert Rowe for Fraud

AUTHOR: Truth Maker - ()

Dear Mr. Exposefraudonline, aka Robert Rowe,

Well, as I've said before.  This whole thing started out as a lie.  You are a joker, a hoax and master minipulator.  The attached is proof now that Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group now has a zero balance and is completely exonarated.  Curtis says he'll be posting something a bit later on. 

Finally, the proof was in fact presented in front of the right eyes and determined through legal and civil channels that Robert Rowe of Custom Chopperwerks LIED and in fact had received checks totalling $5K.

How Paypal will treat this fraud is clearly outline in their Users Agreement. 

Robert Rowe if you ever, I do mean EVER come on this forum again and say that Curtis has stolen money from you or anyone else, I'm releasing those nukes I've been holding on you, Tom and Nancy.  I triple dog dare you to say you never got your checks last year.

This whole disgraceful thing was trumped up to make you look good.  That's all it ever was.   You ruined your business and Curtis' because you weren't thinking clearly and were so consummed by hatred and anger self generated based on LIES.  You lack true wisdom.

Problem is you've found out that when you intentionally go to hurt others, you ONLY end up hurting yourself.  You're learing this lesson late in life, but hopefully you will learn.

I don't ever want to see you on this forum again talking about my friend Curtis or Tycoon Group, because if you do - you will be sorrier than you are now.  The best thing you can do NOW is get to your credit card company FIRST, if isn't already too late and apologize to them, because your house of cards are falling.  You see, Truth will alway win, bank on THAT.

 

- Steve

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Start thinking clearly of yourself better, Tom and Nancy before you decide your next move.  You could make things even worse for you and the others. Believe that!

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#4 Consumer Comment

Paypal Officially Goes After Robert Rowe for Fraud

AUTHOR: Truth Maker - ()

Dear Robert Rowe,

Well, as I've said before.  This whole thing started out as a lie.  The attached is proof now that Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group now has a zero balance and is completely exonarated.  Curtis says he'll be posting something a bit later on. 

Finally, the proof was in fact presented in front of the right eyes and determined through legal and civil channels that Robert Rowe of Custom Chopperwerks LIED and in fact had received checks totalling $5K.

How Paypal will treat this fraud is clearly outline in their Users Agreement. 

Robert Rowe if you ever, I do mean EVER come on this forum again and say that Curtis has stolen money from you or anyone else, I'm releasing those nukes I've been holding on you, Tom and Nancy.  I triple dog dare you to say you never got your checks last year.

This whole disgraceful thing was trumped up to make you look good.  That's all it ever was.   You ruined your business and Curtis' because you weren't thinking clearly and were so consummed by hatred and anger self generated based on LIES.  You lack true wisdom.

Problem is you've found out that when you intentionally go to hurt others, you ONLY end up hurting yourself.  You're learing this lesson late in life, but hopefully you will learn.

I don't ever want to see you on this forum again talking about my friend Curtis or Tycoon Group, because if you do - you will be sorrier than you are now.  The best thing you can do NOW is get to your credit card company FIRST, if isn't already too late and apologize to them, because your house of cards are falling.  You see, Truth will alway win, bank on THAT.

 

- Steve

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Start thinking clearly of yourself better, Tom and Nancy before you decide your next move.  You could make things even worse for you and the others. Believe that!

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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Curtis Brown lying again and again using aliases

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Curtis Brown aka Author 187,

You sure have a lot of time on your hands now that your business folded and you've been exposed as a fraud Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC and Curtis Brown USA, LLC. You steal money from people.

The internet shot purported to be a mugshot of me is incorrect. That was taken off the internet which is in no way an official record and they have a disclaimer for good reason as to accuracy.

What I have posted here on The Rip Off Report are official Court documents that can be verified online with the official Hernando County , Florida Clerk of Court website. Those official court documents prove your internet mugshot information is wrong. 

The guy that filed the false warrant was a crook just like Curtis Brown who stole $80,000.00 worth of our property and filed a false warrant that was quashed by the Hernando County State Attorney.

It's funny how two allegedly different people all of a sudden appear and attempt to trash Custom ChopperWerks, Inc.. The business Grip This is not owned by me or Custom ChopperWerks, Inc..

These same two people claiming to have done business with Custom ChopperWerks but can't produce any invoice or receipt to prove this bogus claim.

Sorry Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC and Curtis Brown USA, LLC. you tried to trash Kim Burge of the California Better Business Bureau using the alias Manser and got caught at it.

Now you try it with Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. who turned you in to law enforcement, Security and Exchange Commission, California Better Business Bureau, and FNRA. It will be fun when I can post your mugshot here on The Rip Off Report.

Curtis Brown, keep your posts coming as they are entertaining, you haven't laid a glove on me yet.  
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#6 Consumer Comment

Custom Choppwerks, Inc.

AUTHOR: 187 - (United States of America)

Looks like Angry Johnny is pissed at you also.  Your other company is shady TOO.  No wonder, that's because the owner, THAT'S YOU MEAT HEAD is a crook.  How many people are you ripping off with your crappy bikes???  And, now you're posting that you're not giving refunds.  Hmmm...  wish you would have told me that earlier...

Others BE WARNED...  I'm putting up the mug shot of a crook.  His name is Robert Rowe, owner of Custom Chopperwerks, Inc.  Custom Chopperwerks International, Inc. and Gripthis1.com.  He ripped me off and he's ripped off lots of others.  Don't do business with this guy, unless you want to waste your money!
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#7 Consumer Comment

LOL!!!!! Custom Chopperwerks International

AUTHOR: 187 - (United States of America)

It's so funny you've got this fetish on Curtis Brown.  You can easily spot a speck in someone else's eye, but can't see the plank in your own eye.  Yeah, I read what you wrote about that guy.  But unlike you, I'm convinced he gave you your money back.   So, I'm staying focused on you, because the whole world needs to know you're a dirt bag and scum.  You always talk a lot of garbage because you are a con artist and a real sham!  And, you're businesses reflects that.  You cheated me and your other customers and I want to make sure to put the breaks to that.

And to refresh your memory little man, go back and look at all the blogs others have said about you.  Your companies, Custom Choppwerks, Inc. Gripthis1.com and Customer Choppwerks International, Inc., I just have a feeling that Curtis Brown didn't create all those aliases you like to claim.  You're just a p***k!

Bottom line, stop ripping off people!  And, what you do with Curtis Brown is between you and him.
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#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Curtis Brown lying again and again

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Curtis Brown,


Let me refresh your memory about you accusing me of being arrested. Here are the official documents :

Exhibit A : Is a "NO INFORMATION" affidavit filed with the Court. The prosecutor filed the "NO INFORMATION" affidavit which means I was never charged with a crime regarding the false warrant.

Exhibit B : Is the official Court Docket showing the case was ABANDONED AND CLOSED and that no charges were filed against me.

Exhibit C : Is the EXPUNGEMENT order signed by the prosecutor which means the incident never happened and my record is clean.

So much for your research and lies.
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#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Curtis Brown lying again and again

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Curtis Brown,

Who's Curtis Brown ? That's easy, it's you.

Give it up. The false claim I was arrested has been shown to be false here on The Rip Off Report. Just look at the court documents that have been posted here on The Rip Off Report that blows that false claim out of the water. I was never arrested, put in jail, or charged with any crime. A guy that stole $80,000.00 worth of our property filed a false police report to avoid arrest for grand theft. He went to jail. I didn't. The case regarding the false arrest was abandoned by the Court. Look it up in Hernando County, Florida with the Official Clerk of Court Records.

By the way Curtis Brown, I still haven't been served with any lawsuit you threatened here on The Rip Off Report. However, now that you (Curtis Brown) have been exposed as the fraud you are and closed your business Tycoon Group, LLC, you probably have no income to file one. That's funny.

Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC and Curtis Brown USA, LLC you need to be more creative with your aliases.

Again, Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. doesn't sell it's products to the general public, Go to our website www.customchopperwerks.com, click on enter. At the top of the page it clearly states if you want to purchase our product you must do so through one of our dealers that sell our products.

What that translates to mean Curtis Brown is your false claims using aliases claiming they purchased our products directly from Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. has been a waste of time and made your aliases look like liars which is par for the course.
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#10 Consumer Comment

Robert Rowe Arrested

AUTHOR: 187 - (United States of America)

Who the "F" is Curtis Brown and how do you expect me to believe anything you say when you're the one who has been to Jail.  I did some checking. 

http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Robert_Rowe_5649696/
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#11 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Curtis Brown lying again and again

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Curtis Brown,

Curtis Brown with another alias making another fabricated name. The only entities Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. has dealt with are LICENSED DEALERS at the wholesale level. We don't do business with RETAIL CONSUMERS.

Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC and Curtis Brown USA, LLC has a lot of time on his hands now that he has been exposed as a fraud and his businesses has closed it's doors. So now he poses as all these people that he fabricates, in an attempt to trash Custom ChopperWerks, Inc..

Isn't it strange how all of a sudden people are coming out of the woodwork claiming how supposedly Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. did something bad to them. However, here's the problem for Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC and Curtis brown USA, LLC. whose posing as all these virtual consumers :

A. Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. has an A+ rating (highest you can get) with the Florida Better Business Bureau. Yes, Curtis Brown I've already tipped them off to a false claim you may attempt to make. They are ready for it. Sorry, but it won't work because you have top submit written proof to the Better Business Bureau like receipts and be able to prove you actually did business with the business you are filing a claim against.

B. Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. does not sell to the general public. So obviously the fake people Curtis Brown has fabricated have never done business with Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. . 

I challenge any of these fake aliases to produce a RECEIPT issued by Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. for any purchase they claim they made through Custom ChopperWerks, Inc..

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#12 Consumer Comment

Small World

AUTHOR: 187 - (United States of America)

Hey Jack Off!!!  I just came across this.  I didn't have a good experience with you either.  So, I doubt anything you say will be believed.  You're just a snake oil salesman.  Guys like you give Florida state a bad name.
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#13 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Curtis Brown lying again

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Curtis Brown,

If anyone reading The Rip Off Report looks up CURTIS BROWN or TYCOON GROUP, LLC, or CURTIS BROWN USA you will see Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. as well as others filed complaints against CURTIS BROWN, TYCOON GROUP, LLC, and CURTIS BROWN USA, LLC. for fraud and cheating people out of money. Curtis Brown folded his business when he was exposed for this fraud. Just look up TYCOON GROUP, LLC BUSINESS REVIEW by the California Better Business Bureau.

If you read each complaint you will find Curtis Brown used several aliases posing as clients for Curtis Brown of Tycoon Group, LLC, and Curtis Brown USA, LLC attempting to salvage and rehabilitate his business which didn't work and everyone saw through.

Curtis Brown using an alias even filed a complaint using the alias Manser on The Rip Off Report against Kim Burge of the California Better Business Bureau who was the investigator on the complaints filed against CURTIS BROWN of TYCOON GROUP, LLC for placing an alert to warn consumers about CURTIS BROWN, TYCOON GROUP, LLC.

The bottom line is the person that has filed this false report against Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. is CURTIS BROWN who now has plenty of time on his hands because one of his businesses is out of business and no one will do any business with the other business (CURTIS BROWN USA, LLC) after reading The Rip Off Report.

Now I will address the false allegations stated in this Rip Off Report against Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. :

1. The complaint admits one of our dealers (Grip This, Inc.) is selling one of our products and not Custom ChopperWerks, Inc..

2. Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. is licensed by the federal and state government as a manufacturer of motorcycles and motorcycle parts. Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. sells wholesale only to dealers NOT to the general public or retail. In other words, Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. would not have sold it's products to this alleged retail consumer. The retail consumer must purchase our product through one of our dealers.

3. For the record, metric bikes require adapters which are an additional cost at the wholesale level and retail level. The metric adapters are not included when anyone orders a set of forward controls from one of our dealers. Without these adapters, the forward controls won't fit the metric (foreign bike) and the retail buyer is informed of this before making their purchase. If the retail buyer refuses to pay the dealer the additional cost for the adapters, they simply don't get them and it doesn't matter what date, year, make, and model, the retail buyer tells the dealer his bike is. Again, if the retail buyer doesn't want to pay the dealer for the adapters the retail buyer doesn't get them.

4. If you look up Grip This Motorcycle Products consumer rating on ebay they have a 100% customer satisfaction rating.

5. Yes, Orange County Choppers (OCC) of American Choppers is a dealer of Custom ChopperWerks, Inc. and featured our products on their T.V. program American Chopper. The success of OCC speaks for itself, and they make a quality product. The author of this complaint has never owned an OCC product so for the author making derogatory comments about a very successful business like OCC show a great lack of credibility. 

6. This complaint admits it never purchased any product through Custom ChopperWerks, Inc.. After reading this complaint which is nothing more than an incoherent rant, we wouldn't want this type of business anyway. In addition, the author of this complaint would never have to worry about being called a rocket scientist. 

Finally, 
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Pants on Fire

AUTHOR: Truth Maker - (United States of America)

Very Interesting....
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