• Report: #652681

Complaint Review: Dane Musk

  • Submitted: Tue, October 19, 2010
  • Updated: Sun, November 09, 2014

  • Reported By: Jill — Pittsburgh Pennsylvania United States of America
Dane Musk
Omaha, Nebraska United States of America

Dane Musk aka Dave Musk; David Musk Empty Promises for Private lending from a Private Equity Group and full of excuses Omaha, Nebraska

*Author of original report: Dave Musk Has been Caught Cyber Bulling Whistle Blowers

*Consumer Comment: i got the shaft from pavillion and david musk, then he electronicly harassed me,david musk behaves like a stalker

*Author of original report: David is in prison now.

*Consumer Comment: Dane, Dave--c'mon man we know who you are

*Consumer Comment: Dane, Dave--c'mon man we know who you are

*General Comment: Dave, Dane, Dan, Lane, Layne Musk

*Author of original report: Just Stop

*Consumer Comment: seriously? really?

*General Comment: Agree with Jill

*Author of original report: I knew it!!!

*Consumer Comment: Jill M. Vitaluna strike three,you are now out.

*Author of original report: Prove it

*Consumer Comment: Jill M. Vitaluna aka Jill Jones is wrong again.

*Author of original report: Dave aka Dane Musk

*Consumer Comment: Dane Meets Our Standards

*Author of original report: Returning the favor

*Consumer Comment: "Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth."

*Author of original report: Dave doesn't know Dave only Dane (Dane is not real)

*Consumer Comment: confusion

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First off if you ask Dave "Dane" about this report he will say oh it's a crazy disgruntled employee or a woman scored but listen to your instinct and let his actions speak for themselves.  His 1st action is to promise you a chance to make millions "your ship has come in".  He recruits people to find deals for him with people that are willing to pay $25,000 due diligence fees.  He will not sign anything for you as to that agreement.  You bring him deals and he tells that person seeking funds that he is summa c*m laude. Yet ask him to see a copy of it, he will say yes and never deliver.  He will give you a fast closing date for your deal but when the time comes he will be missing in action and if you push him on it he will say that you do not push people making the million dollar deals and it makes you look like an amateur when the truth is there is no deal.  He takes the cash and can turn it down for ANY reason with no refund.   Keep in mind. He has not signed a thing for you. Buyer beware.

Dave Musk is hiding his identity and calling himself Dane Musk now.  Since reading Ripoff I discovered that the name change was about the same time that he was/is criminally charged by the FBI according to the Ripoff Report.  Plus if you google Dane Musk this stuff does not show but it does under Dave Musk.  This is why I feel the need to get it out under Dane Musk too.

Originally, He contacted me claiming to be a fellow Beneficial Finance employee. He asked me to work with him stating that he is legitimate and claimed that he has been written up in magazines to prove it.  I was not able to obtain proof of the existing magazines only articles that he faxed to me. 

After doing research on him I found many red flags.  Yes, he did have a brooker license at one time but it is expired over 2 years ago.  His website has also been shut down.  I was able to look up his address on the county website but when he cammed me the inside of his home it was bare, like he was squatting.  He place may be empty because he is on the run from the FBI. I do not know.

He is now collecting $25k "due diligence" fees in behalf of a company called Trilateral http://www.trilatcd.com/index.html  He sent me a list of the investors.  I was only able to verify the name of one person and they are only a contractor.  I was not able to find a single deal that they did and when I research the business I discovered that the website is new.  I asked him for references and he made the excuse that their deals were private.  Legitimate companies show example deals. And there are magazine write ups.  Not only could I Not find any write ups. I could not even find a local newspaper write up on Dave.  If he is the go-getter that he claims there would be articles.... even advice columns or blogs... he has nothing.

He claimed to be able to turn funds around for investments in a matter of days but when I sent him a deal he kept stalling.  I was in contact by other people that have also sent him deals and he was not able to show a single closing.

He wanted me to visit him and said that he would pay for a visa but when the time came he was missing in action.  Again he offered me some funding to start my business but again after I shared sensitive information with him he said oh no, I would never do a website deal.  He knew that it was a website deal before I shared my information.  He came up short time and time again. 

He also refuses to sign NDNC agreements and his phone, fax number and e-mail addresses are often changing.

He claims that he is in Madeira Portugal for several months out of the year but would not show me his view from his window and he is in none of the photographs that he claims of places that he has visited in the UK.  His UK time is still the same as his USA time.  Hmmmmm?

He has sent me forwarded e-mails of funds that he claims that he has received but when I examined the header of the e-mails they were not forwarded.  He has several different cell phone numbers and is always in fear that people will find him, claiming that when he is not able to fund someone they get mad. That people are out to get him. (Well, no wonder).

On a side note. He claims to have an IQ of 164 but his vocabulary is very crude, even offensive at times.

There are many more lies but they are in more of a personal nature.  Speaking of which, I have promises of his in e-mails or IMs that he has sent. If you are an attorney please contact me.  He offered me $100k on one thing and $250k on another project.  Again, empty promises and it is your fault, not his. Look deeper David "Dane" Musk is a fake.



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#1 Author of original report

Dave Musk Has been Caught Cyber Bulling Whistle Blowers

AUTHOR: Jill - ()

http://davemuskcyberattacks.blogspot.com/ 

Dave Musk Has been Caught Cyber Bulling Whistle Blowers

http://davemuskcyberattacks.blogspot.com/ 

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i got the shaft from pavillion and david musk, then he electronicly harassed me,david musk behaves like a stalker

AUTHOR: anonymous - ()

I got the shaft from pavillion and david musk, then he electronicly harassed me,david musk behaves like a stalker,he uses aliases to pump up his ratings with false reviews ,and he uses avitars and aliases to electronicly harrass people i have gotten numerous threats and it is believed he conducts hacking activities as well. I attempted to use david lane musk at pavilion capital group and he instructed me to make up tax records to make it look like i made more money than i did , then he told me he was going to lie to investors to get the loan amount for a commercial building for me. well the bottom fell out of his plan and i complained about him on the internet and the war began he electronicly harrassed me for years! He attempeted to totally undermine my buisiness with false complaints bbb reviews,ect. i want to sue hime for compesation. Beside all that musk claims he has good reviews and never was found guilty of wore fraud on the internet as well especailly at hi pavillion captial group listings all this  is b s below is the report from the fbi ,in my oppionion musk should be guilty of cyber bullying as well after all ther are new laws to help protect victims from people like david musk and pavillion capital group and the crap they do.

Nebraska Man Convicted of Wire Fraud in Connection With Real Estate Development Scheme

(Source: FBI) - United States Attorney Deborah R. Gilg and the Federal Bureau of Investigation announce the following information for the attention of the media:

David Lane Musk, age 53 of Omaha, Nebraska, was found guilty by a United States District Court jury on three counts of wire fraud. Musk was indicted by a federal grand jury on fraud charges relating to a scheme to defraud individuals seeking funding for large real estate development projects.

Musk was operating out of a west Omaha location under the business names of Pavilion Capital Group or Pavilion Commercial Group. Musk represented to people seeking private equity funding that he had connections with a number of investor funds which could be used to finance such projects. Musk represented to each of the principals for the development projects that his connections to those with money required a complete FBI and Interpol background check for each prospective principal of the development projects. Musk charged $600 for the background checks with full knowledge that he did not have any connections to the equity funding sources he claimed to represent. Further he did not have the ability, nor intention, to procure FBI or Interpol background checks.

Musk, who has a 2001 felony conviction for identity theft, is subject to the maximum sentence of 60 years of incarceration and a fine of $750,000. Judge Joseph F. Bataillon allowed Musk to remain free on release conditions which include Musk taking down all Internet websites he has used in connection with the marketing of his real estate business under his true name, David Lane Musk, or under any other name that he has used, including Dan Musk and Pavilion Capital or Pavilion Commercial. Judge Bataillon set sentencing for August 3, 2012.

- See more at: http://www.loansafe.org/nebraska-man-convicted-of-wire-fraud-in-connection-with-real-estate-development-scheme#sthash.zfhNIoMZ.dpuf

Nebraska Man Convicted of Wire Fraud in Connection With Real Estate Development Scheme

(Source: FBI) - United States Attorney Deborah R. Gilg and the Federal Bureau of Investigation announce the following information for the attention of the media:

David Lane Musk, age 53 of Omaha, Nebraska, was found guilty by a United States District Court jury on three counts of wire fraud. Musk was indicted by a federal grand jury on fraud charges relating to a scheme to defraud individuals seeking funding for large real estate development projects.

Musk was operating out of a west Omaha location under the business names of Pavilion Capital Group or Pavilion Commercial Group. Musk represented to people seeking private equity funding that he had connections with a number of investor funds which could be used to finance such projects. Musk represented to each of the principals for the development projects that his connections to those with money required a complete FBI and Interpol background check for each prospective principal of the development projects. Musk charged $600 for the background checks with full knowledge that he did not have any connections to the equity funding sources he claimed to represent. Further he did not have the ability, nor intention, to procure FBI or Interpol background checks.

Musk, who has a 2001 felony conviction for identity theft, is subject to the maximum sentence of 60 years of incarceration and a fine of $750,000. Judge Joseph F. Bataillon allowed Musk to remain free on release conditions which include Musk taking down all Internet websites he has used in connection with the marketing of his real estate business under his true name, David Lane Musk, or under any other name that he has used, including Dan Musk and Pavilion Capital or Pavilion Commercial. Judge Bataillon set sentencing for August 3, 2012.

- See more at: http://www.loansafe.org/nebraska-man-convicted-of-wire-fraud-in-connection-with-real-estate-development-scheme#sthash.zfhNIoMZ.dpuf

 Nebraska Man Convicted of Wire Fraud in Connection With Real Estate Development Scheme

(Source: FBI) - United States Attorney Deborah R. Gilg and the Federal Bureau of Investigation announce the following information for the attention of the media:

David Lane Musk, age 53 of Omaha, Nebraska, was found guilty by a United States District Court jury on three counts of wire fraud. Musk was indicted by a federal grand jury on fraud charges relating to a scheme to defraud individuals seeking funding for large real estate development projects.

Musk was operating out of a west Omaha location under the business names of Pavilion Capital Group or Pavilion Commercial Group. Musk represented to people seeking private equity funding that he had connections with a number of investor funds which could be used to finance such projects. Musk represented to each of the principals for the development projects that his connections to those with money required a complete FBI and Interpol background check for each prospective principal of the development projects. Musk charged $600 for the background checks with full knowledge that he did not have any connections to the equity funding sources he claimed to represent. Further he did not have the ability, nor intention, to procure FBI or Interpol background checks.

Musk, who has a 2001 felony conviction for identity theft, is subject to the maximum sentence of 60 years of incarceration and a fine of $750,000. Judge Joseph F. Bataillon allowed Musk to remain free on release conditions which include Musk taking down all Internet websites he has used in connection with the marketing of his real estate business under his true name, David Lane Musk,
or under any other name that he has used, including Dan Musk and Pavilion Capital or Pavilion Commercial. Judge Bataillon set sentencing for August 3, 2012.


- See more at:
http://www.loansafe.org/nebraska-man-convicted-of-wire-fraud-in-connection-with-
real-estate-development-scheme#sthash.6N2iKE4p.dpuf

 David Lane Musk, 53, of Omaha, Nebraska, was sentenced by United States District Court Judge Joseph F. Bataillon to 48 months of jail for wire fraud. A grand jury found him guilty of three counts of wire fraud.

Judge Bataillon also ordered Musk to pay restitution in the amount of $126,715.00 and that his prison time be followed by a three year term of supervised release. Musk had been charged by a federal grand jury of defrauding individuals seeking funding for large real estate development projects.

Musk was operating out of a west Omaha location under the business names of Pavilion Capital Group or Pavilion Commercial Group.

Musk charged $600.00 for the background checks with full knowledge that he did not have any connections to the equity funding sources he claimed to represent.

Musk, who has a 2001 felony conviction for identity theft, was ordered by Judge Bataillon to be placed immediately in the custody of the U.S. Marshal, rather than allowed to self-surrender.

(Source: FBI) - United States Attorney Deborah R. Gilg and the Federal Bureau of Investigation announce the following information for the attention of the media:

David Lane Musk, age 53 of Omaha, Nebraska, was found guilty by a United States District Court jury on three counts of wire fraud. Musk was indicted by a federal grand jury on fraud charges relating to a scheme to defraud individuals seeking funding for large real estate development projects.

Musk was operating out of a west Omaha location under the business names of Pavilion Capital Group or Pavilion Commercial Group. Musk represented to people seeking private equity funding that he had connections with a number of investor funds which could be used to finance such projects. Musk represented to each of the principals for the development projects that his connections to those with money required a complete FBI and Interpol background check for each prospective principal of the development projects. Musk charged $600 for the background checks with full knowledge that he did not have any connections to the equity funding sources he claimed to represent. Further he did not have the ability, nor intention, to procure FBI or Interpol background checks.

Musk, who has a 2001 felony conviction for identity theft, is subject to the maximum sentence of 60 years of incarceration and a fine of $750,000. Judge Joseph F. Bataillon allowed Musk to remain free on release conditions which include Musk taking down all Internet websites he has used in connection with the marketing of his real estate business under his true name, David Lane Musk, or under any other name that he has used, including Dan Musk and Pavilion Capital or Pavilion Commercial. Judge Bataillon set sentencing for August 3, 2012.

- See more at: http://www.loansafe.org/nebraska-man-convicted-of-wire-fraud-in-connection-with-real-estate-development-scheme#sthash.zfhNIoMZ.dpuf

Nebraska Man Convicted of Wire Fraud in Connection With Real Estate Development Scheme

(Source: FBI) - United States Attorney Deborah R. Gilg and the Federal Bureau of Investigation announce the following information for the attention of the media:

David Lane Musk, age 53 of Omaha, Nebraska, was found guilty by a United States District Court jury on three counts of wire fraud. Musk was indicted by a federal grand jury on fraud charges relating to a scheme to defraud individuals seeking funding for large real estate development projects.

Musk was operating out of a west Omaha location under the business names of Pavilion Capital Group or Pavilion Commercial Group. Musk represented to people seeking private equity funding that he had connections with a number of investor funds which could be used to finance such projects. Musk represented to each of the principals for the development projects that his connections to those with money required a complete FBI and Interpol background check for each prospective principal of the development projects. Musk charged $600 for the background checks with full knowledge that he did not have any connections to the equity funding sources he claimed to represent. Further he did not have the ability, nor intention, to procure FBI or Interpol background checks.

Musk, who has a 2001 felony conviction for identity theft, is subject to the maximum sentence of 60 years of incarceration and a fine of $750,000. Judge Joseph F. Bataillon allowed Musk to remain free on release conditions which include Musk taking down all Internet websites he has used in connection with the marketing of his real estate business under his true name, David Lane Musk, or under any other name that he has used, including Dan Musk and Pavilion Capital or Pavilion Commercial. Judge Bataillon set sentencing for August 3, 2012.

- See more at: http://www.loansafe.org/nebraska-man-convicted-of-wire-fraud-in-connection-with-real-estate-development-scheme#sthash.zfhNIoMZ.dpuf

 link musk convicted  of 3 counts of wire fruad

http://www.loansafe.org/nebraska-man-convicted-of-wire-fraud-in-connection-with-real-estate-development-scheme

 link to fbi david lane musk arrested for wire fraud

http://www.fbi.gov/omaha/press-releases/2010/om062310.htm

 link to blog musck cyberbulling victims

davemuskcyberattacks.blogspot.com/

 

link to news artical found guilty

www.wowt.com/.../Omaha-Man-Sentenced-For-Wire-Fraud-171

 

link to david lane musks attempt to appeal was denied!!

media.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/13/07/123320P.pdf

 

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#3 Author of original report

David is in prison now.

AUTHOR: Jill - (USA)

Another person that he tried to scam sent this to me yesterday.

http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderServlet?Transaction=NameSearch&needingMoreList=false&FirstName=David&Middle=&LastName=Musk&Race=W&Sex=M&Age=53&x=75&y=14

Here is information as to why:

http://www.starherald.com/news/regional_statewide/omaha-man-gets-four-years-for-background-check-fraud/article_00c73b6e-07f8-11e2-8fa9-0019bb2963f4.html
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#4 Consumer Comment

Dane, Dave--c'mon man we know who you are

AUTHOR: Marvin - (U.S.A.)

Dude, THOUSANDS of people know you and your names used. We are all posters from the mortgage grapevine and many of us have emails with Dane. Dave, etc and have spoken to you on the phones. I used to ask you to stop emailing porn to my computer because my daughter saw it.  Looks like you ARE IN PRISON now, eh? Well, well. Too funny. http://www.fbi.gov/omaha/press-releases/2012/omaha-man-convicted-of-wire-fraud
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Dane, Dave--c'mon man we know who you are

AUTHOR: Marvin - (U.S.A.)

Dude, THOUSANDS of people know you and your names used. We are all posters from the mortgage grapevine and many of us have emails with Dane. Dave, etc and have spoken to you on the phones. I used to ask you to stop emailing porn to my computer because my daughter saw it.  Looks like you ARE IN PRISON now, eh? Well, well. Too funny.
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Dave, Dane, Dan, Lane, Layne Musk

AUTHOR: Scotty63 - (United States of America)

Take your pick!  He changes his name to try to hide.  Look up his profile on Linked In under Dan Musk.  Same picture, same BS bragging, same resume.  He has been in prison before for some type of felony theft.  I had business dealings with him in the past and he is a nut case!
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#7 Author of original report

Just Stop

AUTHOR: Jill - (USA)

David just stop.  It is obvious to anyone that read this and would say such things has some serious issues.

Every time that you post here you are digging your grave deeper. 

I know that I have helped people because some have contacted me. You should just stop not only are you hurting yourself but you family may end up reading what you have written someday

It is not a legacy in which that you would wish on them is it?

This is what you have written:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/brokerage-companies/http-www-assetcorner/http-www-assetcorner-com-ji-92c47.htm


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seriously? really?

AUTHOR: James - (USA)

It is amazing how people can post so much unverifiable information on the Internet.
 
Again this man is being wrongly slandered by what appears to be a woman who might be in need of some mental help.

A serious project principal will not find a word of her post believable in any fashion.

Why this site allows such mirth to happen is wrong.
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Agree with Jill

AUTHOR: Tired - (United States of America)

From all I have read, googled etc. I agree that Dave or Dane is the one writing these rebuttals 
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I knew it!!!

AUTHOR: Jill - (USA)

I knew that it was you that wrote at least the last two posts "DANE". I can tell the way that you speak to people and the lies that you spin. Now others will know too before dealing with you so I have achieved my goal of warning them.

If people had cash reserves they could go to a bank for funding.

The deal that you claim to have denied, this is what he wrote to me...

"they want 10% cash + 10 000 euros up front fees"

"They have only one intention ... To collect all money upfront ... Then nothing"

I asked how he found out and he said "by my solicitors" which are his attorneys.

Either he or you gave me copies of the term sheet that you sent to them with the approval and upfront fee request and you did not even meet him. I have proof. Where is yours?

Keep writing people will see more of the real you and more red flags.

What you wrote here is all they need to know...

http://www.ripoffreport.com/brokerage-companies/http-www-assetcorner/http-www-assetcorner-com-ji-92c47.htm

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Jill M. Vitaluna strike three,you are now out.

AUTHOR: James - (USA)

Jill M. Vitaluna,

I rest my case,after you posted this. People now can see what is what.
We will gladlyprove things to principals of projects we desire to partner with for funding success that meet our group's focus.
More schooling for you,a real estate broker and landlord named Jill:
Skin in the gamewith currentlack of cashequals poor management and a denial.
It is logical and common knowledgethat you have to have reserves to work with a private equity partner,especially in this market with qualitylines out the door. We can pick and choose only the best projects we desire.
Your only goal here is to tie Dane into someone with a common name to defame him and our group and create drama for your own personal folly. We are not amused. There is no crime here.
Again principals deal directlywith the equity group on sensitive informationand not the gate keeper facilitator,so it really does not matter. He is just the doorman,so treat him verywell if you want to get into the building to get your project considered for a draw stage success. Dane does well for us and we like him.
BTWJill, we bothknow your "brokered"project was completely denied for lack of ROI's and cash reservesand we did not ask for $10,000.00. We found out thatyou told your client that was needed for you to proceed. Shame on you Jill for trying to collect up front charges and shame on your for causing all this trouble here. I hope people check you out fully on any rental or home purchase transaction they consider.As you posted "I though about what people might think about me writing and if it could come across as unprofessional" Well,yes we alldo,Jill.
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Prove it

AUTHOR: Jill - (USA)

There is no anger in what I wrote. Only facts. The reason that I even wrote it is because David and Dane is trying to change his identity and no long be connected with all of his bad press. Do a search under "Musk" and you will find that I am not the only one.

I am curious as to why you would say that I am scored. I guessed that David would say that because he always has excuses that just do not pan out. If he is in a long term relationship as you say, how could I be scored. Yet, he did tell me that he is not in a relationship so I guess that is another red flag.

You say that I am mistaken but have yet to prove any of it. If fact this letter sounds like something that Dave wrote himself.

So prove it. You say that you are not new. Prove it. You want people to pay for DD but they already have skin in the game.

You did Not deny my birddog project. You approved it and wanted $10k to move forward without looking at it further. More red flags.

After writing back and forth with Dave for several months I feel that your wording here is David's too. You think that people do not express themselves uniquely then you are incorrect again. The more that you write the more red flags are raised for people.

Again, I am telling people to review it for themselves and verify, verify, verify.


I though about what people might think about me writing this and if it could come across as unprofessional to raise red flags for people but I think that people would care more about making sure that they are not scammed and wasting a lot of time as I have done. I think that they would appreciate anyone that wants to help them. That is why most sites now have comments for items. A time will come when private lenders will have comments left in a more professional way but for now this will have to sufficient.

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Jill M. Vitaluna aka Jill Jones is wrong again.

AUTHOR: James - (USA)

Jill M. Vitaluna,

You sound like maybe you are coming around logically now and angering down over a man who was just trying to do business with you and nothing more,as you desired muchmore from him.Hell has no fury as a woman's emotional scorn. What you say about the state of affairs of the banking industry is true,but you use this bad press to defame us.

Dane is his name and Daneis nice and intelligent, avery goodman,isin a serious long term lovingrelationship with a very nice pretty intelligent kindlady who is only a few years younger than him.He is a father of a beautiful daughter and now a cute grand daughter is in his life.Dane is walking around free as can be,enjoying lifeand in no trouble at all. he submits many projects and helps train and organizeour facilitation staff as a manager. Dane had a mortgage license at one time,but let it go,as he does not need to do low level,low profitresidential mortgage loans anymore. You are somistaken in all you write.
You posting emotional uneducated blasts on the Internet on lame sites like thishurts all and makes you look lowly andless than who you might be. Your constant ramblings here are most distressing as you try to defame Dane and who is part of us. OurExcel basedapplication is his application and is concise and in order with perfect structure,as you claim otherwise. We manage and structurethe money for wealthy individuals,so we are the private equity group as you claim otherwise.


 


We always ask for executive summaries first as you lead to think we do not. We waste no one's time. Due diligence varies in costs per project andis not collected until many (not just one) face to face meetings with legal counsels presentthat willlead to release of references and funded tombstones after we are sure the new project principals are trustworthy.


 


We want someone we desire to partner.We do not loan money,nor offer securities. We are not regulated by government. We partner with a project and help it succeed. We have no complaints about us nor any on goinggovernment investigation about us. We are transparent. We turn many away just with a look at an executive summary or after a phone call who do not meet our focus with no fees collected what so ever. We arejust intelligent andcareful about who we deal with,as we do not want anyone to pose as us and take from people. We make friends no enemies and Dane does a great job as our top facilitator. You are his only private equitycomplaint. Dane does not sign agreements for our group,as he is a facilitator and not a principal. Occasionally he might sign a confidentiality agreement,but in most cases it is avoided and not necessary,as Dane is paid directly from our group only and has no up front fees.


 


Our company is not new. You are just flinging more mud to see if it sticks. We justhave a new web site and we reorganized our corporate structure a few years ago for better tax advantages and adding new principals. You forgot to add wealso relocated last yearto another largerprestigious locationfrom our northern business financial district to the downtown historicsouthern district to be more visible. In factwe are now inthe most prestigious businessaddresslocation in this major city.


 


Your ramblings again are motivated by not so much protecting the public,as you have lost nothing but some time as we denied your brokeredproject for obvious reasons without any fees collected,but your drive isemotional vindication to stir the pot against Dane. You had your freedom of speech glory,please move on witha healthy mind set in yourlife now and be well.
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Dave aka Dane Musk

AUTHOR: Jill - (USA)

You are correct; you do not need a license but Dave aka Dane presented himself originally to me as someone with a license.

Your reply sounds nice but it doesn't change the fact that when I was working with him he will not give references or show funded projects. He said many times that he would not sign anything. His applications and processing paperwork is poorly done in excel or word.

There is still a Due Diligence fee. It was $25k. This is just a guess but I am guessing that you will look at any project that can pay the fee and do not look at projects that cannot. Why don't you take the fee after you fund? I would think that lenders that do deals regularly would have a staff at their disposal. Generally, it only takes 5 minutes to see if a deal is worth pursuing and doing more research on. That is why most lenders ask for an executive summary first.

Private lending is changing now that the banks are no longer lending the way that they were. It is a larger market and the lenders are smaller individuals now. Someone needs to help people seeking funding and the investors from being ripped off. The Securities and Exchange does not protect these individuals with private funding. I understand that being a large company allows the luxury of charging a Due Diligence fee but with no references, referrals or funded projects it reads scam when they do not prove who they are and what they have done or even a verification of funds.

The company that I referenced to before is new and the website is new. When you say underwritten and managed this brings up another red flag. David aka Dane represents himself as working directly with the private lender not an insurer or manager.

Of course there is a large pipeline of people seeking investors the banks simply are not lending like they use to do. When I was working with David I had people contacting me regularly. This leaves the door open for unscrupulous people to take advantage of the real entrepreneurs and the underfunded inventors. The Moms, Dads, youth and professionals that are just trying to better themselves, contribute to the world and make a small place in history. They are desperately crying for help to fulfill their dreams and poised for people to take advantage of them.

I have said before for people to make up their own minds to just do the research and I gave them some of my red flags. The ripoff report that Dave aka Dane wrote of me just shows part of who he is. Did you read what he wrote? There is a nice side of Dave aka Dane or I would not have worked with him for so long. What I have written is only a fraction of the red flags that I did disclose and there is a whole can of worms. Unlike Dave aka Dane's report of me, mine are what I have observed not whatever vile thing that I could imagine.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/brokerage-companies/http-www-assetcorner/http-www-assetcorner-com-ji-92c47.htm

It is also true that even scammers sometimes find real deals Madoff and Raffaello Follieri come to mind. Dave aka Dane has yet to show me that he is real and again I am simply telling people to judge for themselves and be careful. Ask for references, deals funded, proof of funds and speak to an attorney.

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#15 Consumer Comment

Dane Meets Our Standards

AUTHOR: James - (USA)


Private equity does not require a mortgage broker license since this is private verifiable partnerships and not a security offering or a loan of any kind.{Private equity joins the project as a partner to help for project draw success.





Dane is a real facilitator who connectsproject principals to the private equity principals and is paid "only" by the private equity group directly persuccessful drawand not the project principals. There are no up front fees required for term sheets,face to face meetings with legal counsel presentand draw schedules. Perhaps Dane might have collected small $600.00 processing fees early on,but he does not now,refunded any collectedand we "the private equity group"cover his processing expenses per submission directly to him.





For over 15 years this private equity grouphas underwritten & managed more than $20B of international assets. This private equity groupwas founded bythree business innovators at the beginning of the new millennium & has evolved from an initial advisory focus to the existing management concentration.





This group seeks to create progressive relationships and long-term revenue projects. This is accomplished through the skills and devotion of our extraordinary people and flexible capital.

Our asset management businesses model includes:

Precious Metals


Real Estate Title
Intellectual Property

We also provide various strategic advisory services, including:

Corporate Mergers and Acquisitions Advisory
Restructuring and Reorganization Advisory
Project Management Advisory

Dane is intelligent,professional and very proficient in connecting qualified clients with our group as a gate keeper. We enjoy his referrals and stand behind him and his work. You are not wiring money to Danenor giving Dane any information that would be at risk to your security. Your generic executive summary is all that is needed to see if your project meets our standards,then a phone conference call or meetingwith Dane to discuss your submission.





We do not deal direct with the publicand only use qualified referredfacilitators who screen out projects that are not meeting our vision. Dane meets our standards. We are in no need of any more facilitators,asDane has supplied us with a rather large pipeline. It is very safe and secure working with Dane and his past is of no consequence to what he accomplishes for you to get your project in draw stages,whetherhis pastis a good or bad past. It really does not matter and his namedoes not matter if successful results are achieved for your project.





I am surprised this site allows nonsense to be postedfromnovists. This woman is way off base,delusional and is clueless about many things with her personal attacks perhpas due to some personal issues.Her wild posts are actionable as defamation and we will pursue action.


 

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#16 Author of original report

Returning the favor

AUTHOR: Jill - (USA)

David Musk aka Dane Musk has filed a report against me in retaliation of my report against him. I find this amusing and disturbing. It is amusing because it only proves what I have said about him is true. I find it disturbing that someone could write such things. Affairs and boasting? He is mean spirited, even evil.

Here is his report...

http://www.assetcorner.com/ Jill M. Vitaluna Jill M. Vitaluna uses an alias (Jill Marie Jones) A Con woman using the Internet to steal your money. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

http://www.ripoffreport.com/brokerage-companies/http-www-assetcorner/http-www-assetcorner-com-ji-92c47.htm

Unlike his, all of my experience is verifiable. He has included the links himself to prove it. Again, unlike his, he has no websites or links to prove who he is. Only 3rd party websites none of his own. He only has AOL e-mail addresses.

Since he was kind enough to report old and new contact information on me. I thought that I would return the favor...

address: 1121 S 113 PLZ

OMAHA NE 68144

skype: david.musk1

cell 402-689-1141

family cell number 1402 218 5156

new cell 1 402 517 7268

Davetime1@aol.com

mortgageplanner7@aol.com

privateequity7@aol.com

pavilionloans@AOL.COM

old cell (402) 697-4801

(402) 517-7268

(866) 728-9724

(402) 689-1141

Here is one of the red flags that I found during my research on him...

Monday, December 21, 2009 2:38 PM

Jill,

David is not in our registry because his membership has expired.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you,

Paul Niermann

Membership and Marketing Associate

National Association of Mortgage Brokers

7900 Westpark Drive, Suite T309

McLean,VA 22102

Phone 703-342-5867

Fax 703-342-5905

pniermann@namb.org



David says that he is with a California Mortgage Brokers but he is only an affiliate there.

In a previous update I included links where you could verify whether David is real or not yourself. I think that in light of this retaliation of his that the nature of David speaks for itself. Please be careful so that you do not find yourself in the same situation has I have.







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#17 Consumer Comment

"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth."

AUTHOR: James - (USA)

"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth."
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#18 Author of original report

Dave doesn't know Dave only Dane (Dane is not real)

AUTHOR: Jill - (USA)

The last rebuttal is from "David in Omaha" claiming not to know who Dave is.  That is sooo funny Dave does not know who Dave is.  He is trying to throw people off track.  Don't trust him. Don't trust me. Check for yourself.  Ask for ID. Ask for references. Follow up on examining his license. Ask any of the people that write to him on facebook regularly.  They will tell you that he changed his name.  If he does actually sign something, check his ID.  Which he will not show you. Don't waste your time with Dane aka Dave. Don't waste your money. Don't share sensitive data.

Oh this should help.... an e-mail that he sent to me... "That is also why part of the reason for a "stage name" of "Dane Musk"that  I use now much like Bono,Sting or many of the local TV news anchors use another name."

He says no upfront fees but charges $600 application fee and if he waves this there are no upfront fees for the application but there are still upfront fees after he gives you are Term Sheet... $25k

Check...

http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/index.shtm


http://www.bbb.org/ 



http://www.whois.net/



http://www.hoovers.com

http://www.dnb.com/us/

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#19 Consumer Comment

confusion

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

Not sure who Dave Musk is, but no relation to the Dane I know.

I know that Dane Musk is real,he will sign NCNDs anytime and has drawn large cap commercial projects with a real private equity group.

Dane does not ask for up front fees on any transaction at any time.

I am sorry this person who posted this seems very confused about who Dane is.

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