• Report: #76071

Complaint Review: Debit Corporation Of America

  • Submitted: Sun, December 28, 2003
  • Updated: Wed, December 31, 2003

  • Reported By:61523 Illinois
Debit Corporation Of America
11900 Biscayne Blvd. STE. 699 Miami, Florida U.S.A.

Debit Corporation Of America ripoff Miami Florida

*Consumer Suggestion: you may need to seek legal advise

*Consumer Suggestion: Florida Dept of Agriculture and Consumer Services want victim complaints on Debit Corporation and Tele King, AmeriPOS and others

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I purchased one of Debit Corporation of America's business opportunities, costing:($14,915)on 06/18/2003. They finaly found locations for the three units after two months of tring. They said they would arange everything with the own's. That didn't happen, because when I would go to the places they contacted, they hardly knew anything about it.

After the two month contracts were done. One place sold none! One place sold one but the person couldn't get the pre-paid credit card after they had bought one and called the number to get it. And the three place sold one also, but that person brought it back because Debit Corp. of America never responded to her call.

I would think that MastCard knew how these people were to let them use their name on a debit card......What a Scam.....I would like to get my monies back some how!

61523, Illinois

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

you may need to seek legal advise

AUTHOR: Jacqueline - (U.S.A.)

Just to start--find a good lawyer.. This is a situation where you may need to seek legal advise. If possible, you might locate a good "Pro Bono" lawyer, who does not collect their fee, unless you win. They're not always easy to find, but they do exist.

It also sounds like you may not be asking for enough. Of coarse, a lawyer can be more specifice. I am in no way trying to supplement or replace legal advice, in any manner.

What would help is providing a compiled, itemized list and chart or all expenses invested:

1. Your start up fee/initial costs/"seed money"
2. A logging scedule of the time invested to contact with the supposed vendors.
3. Gas mileage
4. Reimbursements for other dealings with dissatisfied customers,
5. and any other processing/paper supply/handling, which occured as a result of trying to start the business. For example, any long distance phone calls, which were not toll free, postal fees, any shipping costs etc.

Based on the information found on the Internet, this is also classified as a "Home base business". The Debit Corporation of America possibly classifies itself in this manner. This type of occupation might require special licensing and bonding, on your part, and Debit's as well. This will all have to be considered. If they do not have a license to operate in Illinois, make every effort to verify that fact.

Right now, I wish I could offer more suggestions, but I do not know you "Membership Agreement" or "Terms and Conditions". I found a web site, which might have even more knowledge about this situation, and which possibly has archived information on the legalities. They are www.cardoffers.com They specialize in bringing this knowledge in the form of a Directory. Their email is: support@cardoffers.com This is NOT a consumer advocate site. They might even lean towards representing the credit card corporations, but it would not hurt for them to lend a pointer or two.

"CardOffers.com located in Miami, Florida offers a one-stop source for credit information and reviews". This according to their web site "About.asp". They also network to other Financial Sites. For questions or comments they have a discussion board, that you might join.

Here is some contact informaton you might need for your lawyer or for the process of collecting a refund:

Debit Corporation of America
Original business start date: 9-1-2000
In the State of Florida: 12-1-2002

The President: Mr. Jack Gordon
His phones: 1-954-4447 or 1-800-1836

A corporation email: contact@debitcorporationofamerica.com

Debit Corporations of America
1900 E. Hollandell Blvd.
Hallendell, FL, 33009

This according to the onlineBBB, who recommends reading up on "Credit Card Laundering and Franchising Fraud".

Now, if you're networking through the website or want more information for legal advice Network Solutions has the rest:

Domain name: debitcorporationsofamerica.com
Registrant: Bill Martin (Martinbill@hotmail.com)
Address: 925 W. 47th Court
Miami Beach, FL, 33410
Phone: 1-305-931-7230

Mr. Martin is also the Administrative contact.

Technical Contact: Arie Kachler (akachler@tecom.net)
Epagos Inc.
17701 Biscayne Blvd., 3rd Floor
Aventure, FL, 33160
Same phone as listed above.

Mr. Martin is also a billing contact.

This information was last updated 12-30-2003, which means it is one year old, and might be dated. The site will expire 12-4-2004. It's not good when they are only willing to commit one year at a time. It's a sign of instability.

Registration Service Provider: Epagos, Inc.
Their email: info@telcom.net

Epagos might be a subcontracter of some kind.

If you wanted more information you can access: whois.lacnic.net or report them to abuse@lacnic.net abuse.net only specializes in Internet related abutse, but still might have some pointers on how to network effectively, with eMarket type businesses.

The ARIN Whois database was last updated 12-28-2003

I'm sorry to hit you over the head with all of this tedious information, but you will need it, if you intend on collecting that refund.

If you can, post your "Terms of Agreements", "Membership Agreements" or "Terms and Conditions", I could offer more. Most importantly share those legal bindings with your lawyer.

Do they even have an established "Refund Policy"?

You can report your situation to www.ftc.gov. This is the site for The Federal Trade Commission. They might have other leads. It's a massive site, you'll need plenty of time to research.

BBB is currently updating their file on this corporation, so I imagine they're about to add to the current archive. To review what little info they have access: www.BBB.org or for you www.Chicago.BBB.org You can probably find their number in the Yellow Pages.

Like I said, you might not be asking for enough.

Statute of Limitations is unknown on this one, so you don't want to take too long in finding resolution.

You can make every effort confronting them directly through written/print information, and when you have exhausted all possibilities, then by all means contact a legitimate lawyer.

Only give 7 to 10 works days for compliance, and no more. Make it clear that you do not have time to waste, and full compensation would end that waste on both sides.

Get back to us on how everything works out. There are 9 other Reports posted here. I strongly recommend you review all 9, it shouldn't take too much time. There could be even more information.

Hope this helps.

Happy New Year

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Florida Dept of Agriculture and Consumer Services want victim complaints on Debit Corporation and Tele King, AmeriPOS and others

AUTHOR: Cyndee - (U.S.A.)

Immediately file a complaint with the State of Florida's Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. They are currently working on complaints from Debit Corp and Tele King. Go to their web site and file on line at www.doacs.state.fl.us

Don't wait. Do this today!!!!!!
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