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Complaint Review: Department of Social Services Division of Child Protective Services

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  • Submitted: Thu, May 17, 2012
  • Updated: Mon, May 21, 2012

  • Reported By: Mind Blowing — Salinas California United States of America
Department of Social Services Division of Child Protective Services
1000 S. Main St Salinas, California United States of America

Department of Social Services Division of Child Protective Services Took my four month old Grandson Salinas, California

*Author of original report: Devils Advocate more like the Devil

*Author of original report: Thank you!

*Consumer Comment: Actually..

*Consumer Comment: A misconception

*Consumer Comment: OK, I'll play devil's advocate here...

*Consumer Comment: Stacie Stacie Stacie

*Consumer Comment: Ok sweet heart.

*Author of original report: Get Real

*Consumer Comment: Get real

*Author of original report: FYI

*Consumer Comment: FYI

*Author of original report: Ignorant People

*Consumer Comment: Because

*Consumer Suggestion: Seriously.

*Author of original report: Addict

*Consumer Comment: Comments

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Hello My name is Kathrine,

I need guidance and an Attorney that is willing to work Pro Per.....  My 23yr old Daughter is a Drug addict as is her Boyfriend, they had a baby, I went to CPS before the baby was born to report child endangerment and was told there was nothing they could do until the baby was born.

January 3, 2012 Angel Iziah was born addicted he remained in the hospital for two months to detox he is doing great now....  CPS would not allow my daughter or the father to take Angel so I stepped up and said I would take him and even had a back up which is my Daughters' GodMother and Angels' Godmother.  Long story short CPS made up lies saying I wasn't level headed, due to the highly emotional case there were some untrue statements made by the CPS worker and Nurses at the Hospital and because this young baby has no voice, I felt I was his voice and corrected their less than true statements....  My daughter and the father are still using and I don't think they will get it together in time...  Currently my four month old Grandson is in CPS Emergency Foster care I get to see him once a month for an hour supervised how am I going to bond with him that way.  I spent every single day in the Hospital with him taking care of him and loving and bonding with him...  This has been heart wrenching I need a lawyer or someone to Advocate for me or guide me legally how do I go to CPS Court and get my rights back to my Grandson?

Thank you and God Bless You, this is a terrible agency they abuse their authority they lie they treated me like I was less than human, I don't feel they have the right to treat anyone this way including the addicts.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/17/2012 03:44 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Department-of-Social-Services-Division-of-Child-Protective-Services/Salinas-California-93906/Department-of-Social-Services-Division-of-Child-Protective-Services-Took-my-four-month-ol-884273. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Author of original report

Devils Advocate more like the Devil

AUTHOR: Mind Blowing - (United States of America)

You are the Devil.....  Not all drug addicts come from bad parents sometimes adult children make their own choices in life hello!
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Thank you!

AUTHOR: Mind Blowing - (United States of America)

No Sir not treating my daughter and the father unfairly me the Grandparent and it is very Emotional for me as I let go of my Daughter and gave her to God because through a lot of therapy and support groups but then I found out she was pregnant so then I felt I needed to help the baby.  I took it all the way to our Capital trying to legislate a law about pregnant women endangering the unborn still working on that.

They have treated me unfairly and it seems as though that is the direction CPS took it too for some reason they thought I was trying to protect her when it was about the Baby the entire time.  However there were times when reports from Nurses at the hospital were not TRUTH for example they were telling CPS my daughter would only visit in fifteen minute incraments and I stood up for my daughter and said that is not the TRUTH and the only reason I did that is because I was there with her when they were lying that is not okay and it shouldn't be a bad thing to stand up for the Truth I would never stand behind a lie of my daughter nor would I stand up for her if I was there to Witness it... 

The Tatics they use were not fair to me and they did say things I didn't say, that is not okay.  I was willing to take the Baby and COMPLY with CPS to the fullest and told them that but some how now that I think and reread your words that is what they must think.  It is such a horrible horrible situation I grew very attached to him in the hospital. 

I cannot go to legal aid as my income is too high yet I cannot afford an attorney either a lot of money I have already looked into it.  What I can do is file my response to their very first letter wherein they stated I wasn't level headed..... 

I am sorry for harsh words but it hurts when people attack when you are suffering I had a different impression of this site at first but now I know.  But I want you to know I was in full compliance with CPS but also did denounce some untruthful things that were said as they were not true and I feel as an agency they don't have the right to use their power to do illegal things which is making false accusations so instead of shutting my mouth I said something.

And I got angry at you for saying I was an addict and the reply you made that most addicts would say something like that, that is the type of thing CPS did is twist things.  I am not a Drug addict but have a daughter I love more than life itself that is and just because she is an addict doesn't mean I am a poor Mother I did everything I possibly could to raise her right but I was a single Mother worked three jobs as her Father was an addict and didn't pay child support but didn't raise her around drugs, alcohol and wild parties I raised her the best I could now I know she has her path in life to walk.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Actually..

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

Unless your words build others up and are uplifting and giving positive guidance don't reply to me. - If you would actually take a step back and read what I stated I was giving you a suggestion as to what your problem may be.  Perhaps CPS is right that you are not "level headed" and a bit too emotional.

The fact is that based on your comment it appears you feel that they are treating the parents unjustly because they are addicts.  It was only one sentence in your entire report, but as I said may be a very important sentence as to your state of mind.  If you made anything close to that statement to anyone at CPS that may be enough for them to think that you may not give your grandson a stable safe environment, instead they could feel that you would turn him back over to your daughter because you don't like how they are treating her.  So as others have said you need to work on this first.  That means having your daughter get her act together. 

So here is a question.  Do you still think that they are treating your daughter(the addict) unfairly?  If the answer is still yes, in what way are they being unfair to your daughter?
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#4 Consumer Comment

A misconception

AUTHOR: Ramjet - (U.S.A.)

You are apparently under the misconception that Ripoff Report may try to do something for you.  Actually all Ripoff Report does is provide a place for people to post complaints of one type or another.  The web site does not do any investigation or anything else.  People can post anything about anybody and Ripoff Report will not do anything.

The responses you get from random people with varying amounts of relevant knowledge are usually all you'll get.  Conceivably an agency or company or something COULD read it and try to contact you but I would not hold my breath.  The comments you are getting are about all you can expect from this or other consumer complaint sites.  Their actual primary purpose is to make money for the owners in various creative ways.

Good luck, it sounds like you need some.

 
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#5 Consumer Comment

OK, I'll play devil's advocate here...

AUTHOR: Southern Chemical and Equipment LLC - (USA)

To the OP...

A question, and food for thought.

How do you think you are qualified to raise your grand daughter if you already proved that you failed as a mother?

Your daughter is addicted to drugs.

How old is she again?

23?

How long has she been on drugs?

Drug use comes from improper upbringing, like it or not.

The bottom line here is that you obviously sucked as a mother, so what makes you think you can get it right this time?

And, if you are so broke that you cannot afford even basic legal consultation or assistance, how can you afford to raise your grandchild? (Properly).

These are probably the reasons CPS denied your application.

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#6 Consumer Comment

Stacie Stacie Stacie

AUTHOR: The Outlaw Josey Wales - (United States of America)

 Why are you so angry? Maybe you need to meet Bobby from Irvine and Kenneth with the rest of Team Rebutt at the 7-11 and all have a slurpie. Can't we all get along?
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#7 Consumer Comment

Ok sweet heart.

AUTHOR: Nicole - (United States of America)

1.  You posted on a public forum ASKING for advice.  In fact, one of your first statements was, and I quote, "I need guidance".  You can call me ignorant all you want to, but I know you're only doing it because no one here will pussyfoot around answers for you.

2.  Thanks, but I'll post where and what I want to.  Last I checked, I didn't answer to you :)

You may think my comment about it being CPS and not FPS is cruel, but why don't you answer me this; what would you expect them to do? Honestly?  Your daughter was pregnant and doing drugs.  What should they do?  Would you foot the hospital bill for 9 months while the had her under 24 hour observation?  I certainly hope so, because if my tax dollars went towards that kind of person I'd be livid.  My taxes already go to enough lowlife addicts.

Apparently someone needs to teach you sarcasm as well.  If I had meant beat your daughter, I'd have said beat your daughter.  When I say slap her around, I mean maybe attempt to help her because clearly she missed someone while she was growing up, case in point, you posting on a CLEARLY public forum then calling people who reply "ignorant" and saying things like "Maybe you should shut up!!!!  Ms. Nosey how do you know show much slime ball"  

Comments like that are probably the reason CPS is having such issues with giving your grandson back to you.  You are clearly unstable and like everyone else today, want to place the blame where it doesn't belong.  

The issue is plain and simple.  YOU raised a girl who turned into a DRUG ADDICT.  I'm on no way saying you did a crappy job, because anyone who is weak can turn into an addict if pushed enough.  But the issue is your DAUGHTER is an ADDICT.  As MOST of us have said, go to LEGAL AID.  Get help.  Use the internet for something constructive like finding the closest office instead of bitching at people who are giving you very viable options that would honestly help.

Most of us aren't as heartless as you make us out to be, we just hate seeing people bitch just to bitch.  Great, so CPS is giving you a hard time.  You obviously have access to the internet, look up your local LEGAL AID office, get an appointment, and they will help you from there.  Why don't you start with that, maybe you'll stand a chance at getting your son back.  Because here's the thing, you may think we are heartless, and you can call me all the names in the book, but at the end of the day?  You're still the one with the problem, not us.  

I genuinely hope you figure something out, maybe take some advice we've all tried to give you.
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#8 Author of original report

Get Real

AUTHOR: Mind Blowing - (United States of America)

Maybe you should shut up!!!!  Ms. Nosey how do you know show much slime ball....  I am defensive as you have no clue what I have been through or what I have done to try to get my daughter clean including going to our state capital, you get real and get a life....  I am putting blame on CPS because the baby is loved and adored and protected by me his Grandmother and he should be with me, your so clueless. 

Unless your words build others up and are uplifting and giving positive guidance don't reply to me.  You are standing on a platform of ignorance you don't know the case and it is really none of your business again this website said to post if I wanted an agency investigated so I did it, didn't know I would get harsh and heartless replies.....  You appear to be a very angry bitter person God Help your cold cold cold heart....  And as to your ignorance again they are licsenced social workers.

Again no need to reply with your hurtful ignorant chatter, you don't know and I Pray you never have to know what I have been through.....



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#9 Consumer Comment

Get real

AUTHOR: Stacey - (U.S.A.)

I don't work for CPS and never will - most of the caseworkers are not Licensed Social Workers because of the pay and the endless caseloads - because of your negative attitude and pointing fingers I hope that you do not get custody of that child.

Stop blaming CPS and start putting the blame on your drug addicted DAUGHTER who had the audacity of even having a child when she was using!  Maybe you should focus on getting her clean and sober so your grandchild can be in a stable home.  I suggest you post these "cases" against CPS. From what I see they are just more blogs than actual Court Cases!
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#10 Author of original report

FYI

AUTHOR: Mind Blowing - (United States of America)

No I don't I get the feeling all these negative replies are from social workers that probably work for this type of agency, if your so over worked for so little money than get another job, listen to logic you have a choice for where you want to work or are you a prisoner of your circumstance.

That is the Nature of my Complaint they are not helpful they said one thing do another.  They treat Family Members that are capable would easily pass background checks and an outstanding member of there community this would save tax payer dollars yours idiot......  That is my entire complaint never defended my daughter I am about protecting my Grandson and giving him a loving home within his own immediate family that is the argument they have no grounds to have not allowed me to have him NO GROUNDS yet they abuse their authority.  

Again unless you have positive stuff or resources don't comment on my post.  They are a terrible agency with no Transparency and I will get them exposed I would love to see you in my same situation this is about the Baby period.  I could support him without any Government support and love him as my own and protect him your way off base and by the way who are you God don't think you even have a place to comment you don't know me and you don't know the story, your replies are out of pure ignorance.

Again this was for rip off report and if your so stuck on do what CPS look at all the other complaints about them there are numerous class actions against them obviously others have experienced the same.
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#11 Consumer Comment

FYI

AUTHOR: Stacey - (U.S.A.)

When you post on a public forum you open yourself to comments regardless if you like it or not.  I suggest you point your anger towards your DAUGHTER because she and her partner are the ones who put you in this situation not CPS. 

Don't berate those who respond to this report - they are just doing what they have the right to do - make a comment. Work with CPS and do what they ask you to do.  I suggest you put yourself in their shoes - would you like to work for little money, overloaded with cases and have to take children from their families??? I sure would not do that -
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Ignorant People

AUTHOR: Mind Blowing - (United States of America)

Too both of you ignorant folks this wasn't for people like you who have no clue.....  And a slap down of an addict if you were smart doesn't take the addiction away, please wake up violence isn't the answer this report was made to this website for exposure not for your ignorant comments directed at me..  But just so you know there needs to be a law for the unborn, your stupid comment of fetus protection is heartless....  I call it child endangerment born or not born!  And my reason for reporting is the agency is not pro family, I am the Grandmother and did nothing my grandson should be with me....  I never protected my daughter in fact tried to have her arrested for child endangerment.  So unless you have positive advise or resources don't comment on my post it wasn't intended for people like you it was posted for rip off report to investigate.....   You don't know me and my hell and I don't know you but I would never say such heartless things to someone who is going through such a private hell as I am...   

Don't take the time to reply either!  Your comments are not helpful and not necessary go Judge someone else!
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#13 Consumer Comment

Because

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

I made that statement, actually just in passing, because you were talking about them being unfair to addicts.  So if you are not an addict you then must feel that they are being unfair to the parents..who by your own admission are addicts.  

Thank you for your thoughts but no I am not an addict why on Gods' Green Earth would I be even trying to get my Grandson if I were, that would be ignorant,
- Well many parents who are addicts attempt to get their kids back.  They actually give the same type of comment you made how they are being "unfair" and that they should be able to have their kids.

So if you gave CPS any indication that you feel they are being unfair to the parents that alone could be the reason why they are not quite willing to give you custody.  Because as mentioned before they may have a legitimate belief that you could put your grandson in danger by letting the parents care for him.
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#14 Consumer Suggestion

Seriously.

AUTHOR: Nicole - (United States of America)

Don't act like your brand of suffering is any different than anyone else's.  Your grandson was taken away by your daughter who is an addict.  

As the last poster said, CPS is NOT perfect by any means, but they are a hell of a lot better than addicts attempting to raise infants.  I'm not sure what you expected them to do BEFORE the child was born.  They are Child Protective Services not Fetus Protective Services.  

I'm sure you know about legal aid.  I don't know why you haven't spoken to them.  That's why they are there.  I don't doubt that CPS made the right decision for right now.  It seems like an extremely emotionally charged situation, and if that is the case it's best for the child to be removed from EVERYONE.  Just calm down, do you visitations, work with legal aid and you will get your grandson.  Maybe slap your daughter around a little and tell her to get her sh*t together.  Hopefully everything works out for you.
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Addict

AUTHOR: Mind Blowing - (United States of America)

Thank you for your thoughts but no I am not an addict why on Gods' Green Earth would I be even trying to get my Grandson if I were, that would be ignorant, so as far as I am concern your reply came from ignorance....  There are numerous complaints about this agency and many in other Counties they abuse their Authority, check out fightcps.com....  I would love to see you go through the horrific nightmare I have been and then see what your reply or post would be you have no idea, thank you!
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AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

I don't feel they have the right to treat anyone this way including the addicts.
- That statement probably says more than you think.  The goal of CPS is the safety of the child, they are by no means perfect.

However, if they feel you are going to put the child in danger you are not going to get custody.  The statement you made seems to indicate that you feel they are treating the parents wrong(unless you are an addict also), and it could be seen that you may put the child in possible danger and are going to let him be with your daughter.
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