- Report: #224364
Complaint Review: Discover Card
| Discover Card
Kearns, Utah U.S.A. |
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Discover Card It Does Not Pay To DISCOVER, card,! Ripoff Kearns Utah
*Consumer Comment: Not true that Discover will give you up to 2 years at reduced payments
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Not Necessarily True
*Consumer Comment: This is in response to Nisa - Columbus: Steering you in the right direction...don't think so
*Consumer Comment: BAH HUMBUG
*UPDATE Employee: not true at all
*Consumer Comment: Yikes
*Consumer Comment: Um, but no one made you make charges to the card.
*Consumer Comment: DISCOVER CARD FINANCIALLY RAPED OKLAHOMA WIDOW!!
*Consumer Comment: I HAVE NEVER HAD A CREDIT CARD BECAUSE THEY ARE RIP-OFFS
*Consumer Comment: I HAVE NEVER HAD A CREDIT CARD BECAUSE THEY ARE RIP-OFFS
*Consumer Comment: I HAVE NEVER HAD A CREDIT CARD BECAUSE THEY ARE RIP-OFFS
*Consumer Comment: I HAVE NEVER HAD A CREDIT CARD BECAUSE THEY ARE RIP-OFFS
*Consumer Suggestion: Not Legal
*Consumer Comment: Similar situation
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Steering you in the right direction
*Consumer Suggestion: Also, beware debt settlement.
*Consumer Suggestion: Some info for C.B. on Discovercard and class action lawsuits, etc.
*Consumer Comment: Unfortunately...
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The majority of creditors will work with you in times of crisis, but not Discover Card! What's worse is Discover Card's tactics!!!!!! They are in clear violation of the "Fair Debt Collection Practices Act." Consumers have a RIGHT to NOT be HARASSED, period! Even in times of financial crisis!
I would like to file a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against Discover Card, because I feel that this is the only way to STOP their illegal collection practices!! They call 8-10 times a day, leave at least 2 messages, pose as other people to get info, ask others that answer the phone "what relation they are to me, etc..." My best friend said that a Discover collections rep actually called & threatened her & her husband, used profanity, said that he knows where they live & have contacted their neighbors about the kind of people that they are, etc... My sister has been going through Debt Settlement to try & pay off their debts & Discover Card FLAT-OUT refused to work with them! Instead, they decided to garnish her wages, resulting in much less payment per month. They also sent the account to collections & then took it back! (I thought that was illegal!).
So many people are complaining about Discover Cards unethical & illegal practices! Can't this company be STOPPED? We all need to ban together & bring forward a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against Discover Card!
If Discover Card treated people with dignity & respect, they would have a much better success rate.
C.B.
LaGrange, Kentucky
U.S.A.
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Not true that Discover will give you up to 2 years at reduced payments
AUTHOR: Gina - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 18, 2012
When the six months was up in Oct 2009, I called to re-apply and get another six months. I was told that I could not do that, that I have to wait one year before I could re-apply again. I was never informed of that restriction. If I had been made aware of that I would have told Discover I want a year of reduced payments from the get-go.
Discover never worked with me again after that. I told them that their competitor, Bank of America, put me on a 5 year hardship program at 7% interest, $130/mo. payments. All the customer service person could say to me is, "Well, we're not Bank of America." Darn right you're not!!!
#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Not Necessarily True
AUTHOR: aaashleyrose - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 18, 2012
customer's spouse (in some states). They are allowed to present ways to "move money around" (garage sales, skipping mortgage payments, borrowing money from friends/family, etc) They do NOT garnish wages. They can, and do, lower interest rates, but the requirements for lower rates have changed a great deal and are much stricter and more difficult to meet.
They call any numbers they have as "leads" to contact the customer. This may be neighbors, family, friends, or anyone else.
They are NOT allowed to disclose any information to outside parties. If the customer states "do not call back on this phone number," that number is then marked as "Do not call" and is taken out of the system. Once things are out of the system, they are gone unless someone manually puts it back in. Once an account is sent to an outside collections agency, there is no way for
Discover to retrieve it.
While this is all Discover policy, not all employees follow it and, if the account isn't noted properly, it can lead to multiple messages being left and "do not call" numbers not being removed from the system. As for employees cursing, that is not the fault of the company, but the fault of the employee. Discover does monthly call quality checks and supervisors actively listen in on calls daily. If you were cursed at by an employee, I can guarantee that that employee was either strictly reprimanded and put on probation, or fired. Discover is not a company that is shy about firing employees. I was fired at 6 months pregnant and was told I wasn't doing my job. I was ranked second in the department at the time. Discover is an unethical company, but a lot of the points you made are untrue or the fault of the employees, not the company itself.
#3 Consumer Comment
This is in response to Nisa - Columbus: Steering you in the right direction...don't think so
AUTHOR: Gina - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 16, 2010
I know firsthand about the part you talk about that they will help you pay the debt by calling their hardship program. I did do that in May 2009 and got put on Discover's hardship program, my payment was cut in half...yippee!!! I was happy. Was on the program for 6months and now I'm off it. I was making the min payment since being off the program in Nov 2009 and my payment has gone up 20 bucks more a month. At this rate, I won't be able to afford the payment anymore. And 200 bucks goes to Cash Advance with an interest rate of 29.99. I had a cash advance years ago, but that doesn't get paid off, it keeps accumulating.
I called the Discover hardship program again to see if I can get back on the program (Feb 2010) and I was told that I have to be off the program for a year before they will put me back on it again. So i have to wait until Nov 2010...I can't. So the part of your comment, being an ex-employee, about helping you for a year and if you can't make it after that year, then you get another year is not true at all. They allow you 6-12 months. Don't know why I just got 6 months. Maybe I thought things would be better by then. But I do not remember a disclaimer about if you're on the program once, you have to wait another year to be put back on it again.
It's total BS...don't know why Discover can't be like B of A where I'm on their hardship permanently for the next 5yrs at a reduced payment to pay it off. I have seen my balance drop 1,000 bucks in the last 10 months. Can't say that for Discover...I've decided not to even pay them anything and have them call me...yeah, then they'll want to help me out. The hell with them!!!
I have to ask how Discover could win a suit? The business owner hanging by the thread (and my heart goes out to her) obviously did not think about her situation clearly. If she appeared in court, and provided financial records Discovercard (assuming the debt was legit) would be forced into a payment plan and all this money that was garnished would have been a mute point.
Secondly, as a business owner there were resources available through the Small Business Adminstration office for financial counseling to keep the business/personal finance affecting the business afloat. When served with papers to appear in court - if they couldn't appoint a lawyer or advocate to appear because it was a personal bill, they would have counseled her extensively and provided resources to get a payment plan to float her through the hard times.
As far as the employee stating these things don't happen. I don't buy it. I am currently in discovery with the company forcing them to disclose a signature card. in may case, they have the wrong person. The company ADMITTED they had the wrong person in writing, then backtracked refusing to correct the error on the credit report. On top of that, the company illegally reaged it.
Someone is screwed up in a big way. They lawyers are suing for the money, I am suing to repair the fraudulent trade line on my credit report. When I supplied proof of identity and a copy of the credit report in good faith, my personal information was disclosed to a maniac hired by Discovercard that took matters into his own hands to collect a debt I didn't even initiate. When the police get involved with a weapons charge attached and a physical assault not just in one township, but having been stalked and accosted in four townships across three counties - you think the bozos at Discovercard might get a clue.
Ultimately, we are trying to set precedence and prove Discovercard is responsible for the actions of the "independent contractor" because they disclosed personal information they were not entitled to disclose. The information received was for the purpose of proving they had the wrong person. Aside from this issue, Discovercard is in FCBA/FCRA/FDCPA violation for failure to correct the credit reports after providing evidence I did not open the account.
If Discover is attached to a company, such as Sears/K-Mart - I tend not to even shop there. Just the logo accepting the card in the store is enough to make me walk the other way because of the harrowing experiences over the past 10 years.
#7 Consumer Comment
Um, but no one made you make charges to the card.
AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 30, 2009
#8 Consumer Comment
DISCOVER CARD FINANCIALLY RAPED OKLAHOMA WIDOW!!
AUTHOR: Dessie - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 30, 2009
#9 Consumer Comment
I HAVE NEVER HAD A CREDIT CARD BECAUSE THEY ARE RIP-OFFS
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 02, 2009
IT IS TOO EASY TO GET IN OVER YOUR HEAD.
GET AN UNLISTED AND UNPUBLISHED PHONE NUMBER. MAKE SURE IT IS UNLISTED AND UNPUBLISHED AND THEN MAKE SURE NOBODY HAS IT BUT YOUR JOB AND ON MOST JOBS THEY DON'T GIVE OUT YOUR HOME PHONE NUMBER.YOU CAN GET ONE OF THOSE PHONES WITH A DIGITAL READOUT AND CALLER ID IF YOU CAN'T GET UNPUBLISHED AND UNLISTED.SCREEN YOUR CALLS AND JUST DON'T ANSWER. TELL YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO DO THE SAME. USE A CELL PHONE WITH PREPAID MINUTES FOR IMPORTANT CALLS WILL HELP YOU PRIORITIZE CALLS. PEACE AT LAST!
#10 Consumer Comment
I HAVE NEVER HAD A CREDIT CARD BECAUSE THEY ARE RIP-OFFS
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 02, 2009
IT IS TOO EASY TO GET IN OVER YOUR HEAD.
GET AN UNLISTED AND UNPUBLISHED PHONE NUMBER. MAKE SURE IT IS UNLISTED AND UNPUBLISHED AND THEN MAKE SURE NOBODY HAS IT BUT YOUR JOB AND ON MOST JOBS THEY DON'T GIVE OUT YOUR HOME PHONE NUMBER.YOU CAN GET ONE OF THOSE PHONES WITH A DIGITAL READOUT AND CALLER ID IF YOU CAN'T GET UNPUBLISHED AND UNLISTED.SCREEN YOUR CALLS AND JUST DON'T ANSWER. TELL YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO DO THE SAME. USE A CELL PHONE WITH PREPAID MINUTES FOR IMPORTANT CALLS WILL HELP YOU PRIORITIZE CALLS. PEACE AT LAST!
#11 Consumer Comment
I HAVE NEVER HAD A CREDIT CARD BECAUSE THEY ARE RIP-OFFS
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 02, 2009
IT IS TOO EASY TO GET IN OVER YOUR HEAD.
GET AN UNLISTED AND UNPUBLISHED PHONE NUMBER. MAKE SURE IT IS UNLISTED AND UNPUBLISHED AND THEN MAKE SURE NOBODY HAS IT BUT YOUR JOB AND ON MOST JOBS THEY DON'T GIVE OUT YOUR HOME PHONE NUMBER.YOU CAN GET ONE OF THOSE PHONES WITH A DIGITAL READOUT AND CALLER ID IF YOU CAN'T GET UNPUBLISHED AND UNLISTED.SCREEN YOUR CALLS AND JUST DON'T ANSWER. TELL YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO DO THE SAME. USE A CELL PHONE WITH PREPAID MINUTES FOR IMPORTANT CALLS WILL HELP YOU PRIORITIZE CALLS. PEACE AT LAST!
#12 Consumer Comment
I HAVE NEVER HAD A CREDIT CARD BECAUSE THEY ARE RIP-OFFS
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 02, 2009
IT IS TOO EASY TO GET IN OVER YOUR HEAD.
GET AN UNLISTED AND UNPUBLISHED PHONE NUMBER. MAKE SURE IT IS UNLISTED AND UNPUBLISHED AND THEN MAKE SURE NOBODY HAS IT BUT YOUR JOB AND ON MOST JOBS THEY DON'T GIVE OUT YOUR HOME PHONE NUMBER.YOU CAN GET ONE OF THOSE PHONES WITH A DIGITAL READOUT AND CALLER ID IF YOU CAN'T GET UNPUBLISHED AND UNLISTED.SCREEN YOUR CALLS AND JUST DON'T ANSWER. TELL YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO DO THE SAME. USE A CELL PHONE WITH PREPAID MINUTES FOR IMPORTANT CALLS WILL HELP YOU PRIORITIZE CALLS. PEACE AT LAST!
In my research over the YEARS I have heard it all about the unscrupulous and unfair business practices. IMHO - NEVER deal with their third party bill collectors until you check them out thoroughly at www.buddhibbs.com or just google them with the words SCAM, FRAUD, or ILLEGAL PRACTICES. You get the idea.
In my personal issue, they sold a 1999 debt to a third party collection firm who illegally posed as an attorney's office for intimidation purposes. The debt did not belong to me and they had the wrong person. After years of letter writing to various agencies, and constant harassment (including physical assault and brandishing a firearm) that caused police involvement the company agreed to delete the trade line and finally admitted they couldn't figure out who the owner of the account was. They were looking for a woman with the same first name as me, but different last name who lived in the same apartment building I lived in.
Another thing to watch for is the illegal use of court documents to phish for personal information. If you ever get something that appears official and it is a subpeona for financial information, call the court house and verify that a judge signed it. I have heard horror stories from consumers who had their 401K's wiped out, default judgments where they were not served legally and more. Protect your personal information and pay what you can.
My saga is still going on because Discovercard backtracked and claimed they never sent that letter in 2006 and to add insult to injury - altered the date of last activity to keep this on the credit report even though it was never mine. It has haunted me and cost me thousands over the years because of this "bad mark". Not all creditors will accept that letter to give me a better rate.
I just filed myself in small claims court against them to get this resolved once and for all.
If you owe the money, pay what you can - even if it is only $5 a week. Get rid of these people as quick as you can. For those with an open account, close it ASAP and pay it off.
As far as these yahoo's calling, send them a letter in writing telling them that you will only deal with this issue in writing and that you do not want phone calls. If they call, they are in violation of the FDCPA. You can also under the law tell them not to write, but if you break all communication they are more likely to send it to one of these "enforcers" just to give you a whole heck of a lot of grief.
Every time they do contact you in writing, RESPOND IMMEDIATELY. Send them a letter telling them your situation and making a token payment. If you truly owe the money, it should be paid.
#14 Consumer Comment
Similar situation
AUTHOR: Bohemiancatlady - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, January 03, 2009
#15 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Steering you in the right direction
AUTHOR: Nisa - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 03, 2008
Then there is the courtesy removing of late fees and finance charges on the account as long as the customer in question has not been repeatedly late (which we look at the past six months) and can make the payment. This is done before the account is sent to internal collections.
Then, if the account does become 30 days past due, there is a program that you can be put on where they would figure an average of your monthly billing cost and have you pay that average every month for a year (which after a year, if you're still not back on your feet you need to call in and get put back on it for another year).
Also, there is always the possibility of making only your minimum payments if you cannot afford to pay the balance in full.
And not to mention that there is also a payment protection plan that Discover offers for the price of $0.89/$100 (balance) where your payment can be put on hold for up to six months due to hospitalization, involuntary unemployment and much more to have that activated.
These are only a few things that Discover Card does to help customers prevent these situations before hand so it doesn't mess up their credit as well as work with customers when they first begin to be past due so we can get them current again.
However, after so long, if a debt has remained on the account unpaid then Discover, as do many other companies, have the right to sell the debt to a third party agency. When that happens, the debt and any disputes must be handled with that company because it is no longer affiliated with Discover.
#16 Consumer Suggestion
Also, beware debt settlement.
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 09, 2006
Debt settlement is in itself a scam. It invites creditors to sue you. The money your sister has been paying to the settlement company is most likely totally wasted. It would've been better for her to take an "informal bankruptcy" approach such as Steve did. The fundamental principle is to stop paying creditors and act like you have no money. Meanwhile, save as much cash as you can in a shoe box under your bed. If a creditor sues you (which is very unusual unless you've been making waves with them), take some money out of the shoe box and make a settlement with them before trial. That way you don't wind up with a judgement, wage garnishment, etc.
#17 Consumer Suggestion
Some info for C.B. on Discovercard and class action lawsuits, etc.
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 08, 2006
First, I need to let you know that the FDCPA omly applies to 3rd party debt collectors. It does not apply to Discover collecting on their own accounts.
Second, do you know how much it would cost to bring a class action suit against Discover? MILLIONS $$$$. And, do you know how much you would get IF you won? Maybe a few hundred bucks, if that. The lawyers make all of the money. And guess what, the costs of doing a class action suit are paid up front. By you.
Nobody can garnish your wages without first suing you, winning, and getting a judgement, then getting the garnishment order.
Your sister can fight the garnishment. If she files based on hardship, they may actually get nothing.
This is why you never speak with a debt collector on the phone. NEVER. It will never do anything positive for you. Get it in writing.
#18 Consumer Comment
Unfortunately...
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 08, 2006

