- Report: #591748
Complaint Review: ECMC
| ECMC
Chanhassen, Minnesota United States of America |
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ECMC Used scare tactics about a data theft from their facility in Oakdale MN. I have no student loans with them. Chanhassen, Minnesota
*Consumer Comment: This is definitely shady
*General Comment: Did they tell you the data was found intact?
*General Comment: All data discs recovered three days after theft
*Consumer Comment: Update to Previous Rebuttal
*Consumer Comment: Not a SCAM!
*Consumer Comment: ECMC - Not a rip-off
*Consumer Comment: ECMC May Not Be a Scam
*Consumer Comment: I have received the letter
*General Comment: Data Theft from ECMC verified
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Search Tips#1 Consumer Comment
This is definitely shady
AUTHOR: Michael - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, May 09, 2010
I received the letter as well (in April) and thought it sounded fishy until I investigated and saw it was a legit company. I decided not to get the Triple Alert at the time BUT...
Today I decided to get the free credit reports you are allowed once per year for free from annualcreditreport.com but when I finished printing those out I noticed you had to pay for credit scores. So I decided to enroll in Triple Alert from the ECMC letter for free and discovered that you have to PAY to see credit reports and scores. It is just for monitoring.
On the page once you login under the heading My Credit Reports you get text saying Check the details of your Credit Report regularly to confirm there's been no suspicious activity. [Order a New Experian Credit Report and PLUS Score] [Order all 3 Reports & Scores]... so to get 3 reports and 3 scores it costs $29.95, 3 reports and experian score $19.95, $10 for just your Experian credit report, no score. Trying to scare you into ordering reports that should be free with no option to just order your scores which is all you should be charged for. There is no mention of getting your 3 credit reports for free unless you read the FAQ, but most people are not going to go looking in there since the [FAQ] is a small link below the 3 big links for ordering reports/scores.
And I don't think it is coincidence that on May 5th 2010 ECMC announced a for-profit affiliate. http://www.ecmc.org/details/newsECMCSolutions050510.html This scare tactic to get signups and sell reports and scores could have helped fund it although this part is purely conjecture. It certainly lends more credence to the shadiness of the whole thing.
#2 General Comment
Did they tell you the data was found intact?
AUTHOR: LSquared - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 05, 2010
Did the police report or the contact you spoke with at the PD, inform you that all the data was recovered intact, not accessed and encoded, just three days after the theft? Apparently the police found the data discs but held onto them for a while because they didn't know who they belonged to. That makes me wonder how long ECMC waited to file a report of the theft. Something in the milk ain't clean with this whole situation and their data theft/recovery/solicitation for Triple Alert.
A link to an article about the recovered data...
http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/stories/2010/04/12/daily41.html
#3 General Comment
All data discs recovered three days after theft
AUTHOR: LSquared - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 05, 2010
My husband also received this letter from ECMC. It was sent to his parent's home. He hasn't resided there for close to 20 years. He did not recall having a loan through this company nor making payments to them at any point after his college graduation but thought perhaps at some point, the info was sold to them. He had no recollection of his loans being transferred or sold to ECMC but of course that doesn't mean that that neither event occurred. It seemed fishy to me so I did some digging and learned that there is a legitimate company that had data stolen but it was recovered by the police three days later, intact, not accessed and still encoded. The letter sent by ECMC stated that that the theft occurred three weeks prior to the printing of the consumer letter but said no police report was available. They said you could contact the Minneapolis Police Dept for a copy of the report. They didn't mention that the police recovered their data about 2.5 weeks prior to their consumer letter being sent out and that is the suspicious part to me. Here is a link to the Minneapolis/St. Paul Business Journal article that writes about the data recovery.
http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/stories/2010/04/12/daily41.html
I still have a creepy feeling regarding this whole theft and subsequent offer of free monitoring. Many have said that they appear to offer free credit reports but when you call, you are asked to pay for credit reports. The monitoring service is free for the first year only. I would bet that after that year, they try to continue charging you so, do not provide a credit card to Triple Alert for your "free" year, if they tell you that you can cancel after the first year and avoid charges. Why do I wonder if ECMC found a way to take advantage of an unfortunate situation? Could they have partnered with Triple Alert in this case and possibly reap some benefit for anyone who does call and sign up for the free year? The paranoid consumer in me wonders about the data theft and random recovery of mystery discs by the police three days later, to begin with. Apparently the stolen data wasn't in their computer systems and hacked into. It was old data, stored on encoded discs in a storage facility. The whole thing leaves me feeling uncomfortable about ECMC and Triple Alert.
My recommendation to my husband was to continue to monitor his credit reports as he has been diligent in doing all along and not to sign up for anything offered by this company.
#4 Consumer Comment
Update to Previous Rebuttal
AUTHOR: trmorgan2k - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 22, 2010
#5 Consumer Comment
Not a SCAM!
AUTHOR: Elkie - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 19, 2010
#6 Consumer Comment
ECMC - Not a rip-off
AUTHOR: dca58 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 18, 2010
I also received a letter from ECMC.
ECMC is a legitimate company - they manage federal student loans - I had outstanding loans about ten years back and paid the loans thru them.
It could be that your information is in their archive or database - in other words, probably an old federal student loan you had and paid off years ago.
The university I went to also had an identify theft incident - and they offered a very similar program - free monitoring for a year.
If I were you I would take them up on it - I know I am.
#7 Consumer Comment
ECMC May Not Be a Scam
AUTHOR: trmorgan2k - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 16, 2010
#8 Consumer Comment
I have received the letter
AUTHOR: ta9002 - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, April 13, 2010
#9 General Comment
Data Theft from ECMC verified
AUTHOR: KBell - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 12, 2010

