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Complaint Review: Eastern Refinishing - Charles "Charlie" Gayler And Tracy Gayler

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  • Submitted: Fri, June 19, 2009
  • Updated: Wed, August 08, 2012

  • Reported By:Biloxi Gulfport Mobile New Orleans Mississippi
Eastern Refinishing - Charles "Charlie" Gayler And Tracy Gayler
Multiple Addresses, Not Confirmed Nationwide U.S.A.

Eastern Refinishing - Charles "Charlie" Gayler And Tracy Gayler Totally unprofessional, a complete and utter ripoff ALL Nationwide

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: A bunch of lies

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I work for a GC on the MS Gulf Coast and we used this company to redo a tub unit on a remodel job. This was a purely "color-change" job - the tub was in perfect condition, just a dated color. The first trip, on April 25th, 2009, resulted in Chris, the tech, hitting the just-sprayed surface with a grocery bag. He acknowledged it and stated that he would return in about a week to redo the unit. The bathroom was sealed by his wife/helper, and no one moved the plastic sheeting over the door for 6 days. When the client and I inspected the work, not only was the area where Chris had hit the surface with the bag in obvious need of a redo, but there were several areas of missed coverage and lots of particles in the finish. When he finally arranged to come over, he called at the last minute and said he wasn't coming, but was sending his wife and a helper. They attempted to fix the mess, but made it worse - runs, drips, puddles, etc. and even acknowledged they missed some spots that would need a third trip. When we attempted to schedule this, we were unable to reach them for days, and when my boss finally reached Chris, he hung up, without saying a word, as soon as he heard our company name. He then contacted the "home office" and got all sorts of excuses - they are not anywhere as large as their somewhat amateurish website would try to make it seem. They have refused to fix the mess they made and the tub will need another contractor to come in, completely resand, redo, etc. or a complete removal and replacement.

We could not find any physical address (or even a mailing address) for them on the website. Furthermore, a look the dates of the reviews is pretty suspicious. My boss had our people do some basic research on this company and the results are not comforting: they have apparently been in and out of business in several states, including Florida (long-lapsed incorporation, and the people involved, the Gaylers, etc., having multiple companies, all also lapsed). There are no business licenses (or active corporations) for them in Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana or Michigan. There are a number of BBBs that have VERY negative files on them, for example:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4185/is_20050603/ai_n14653598/?tag=untagged

Also, note the conflicting information in articles prepared by Charles Gayler as "PR":

http://www.c3i3.net/category/charles-gayler/

We are filing complaints with appropriate authorities. I am not at liberty to discuss the client's decision, but suffice to say they will not be recommending them to anyone, either. I will supply pictures of the complete mess made by this company to anyone thinking of using them, but we would strongly suggest avoiding them.

You can request pictures at: easternrefinishingrippedusoff@yahoo.com

This email is not a joke - my boss had me create this account specifically for dealing with this company. He is REALLY pissed at these people and intends to see they are not allowed to prey on folks down here or anywhere else he can help.

Here is the last address we were able to find for the "headquarters":

Eastern Refinishing Inc.
917 Bruce Rd. 9 R R #6
Wiarton, ON N0H 2T0
800 463-1879

(They have had several past addresses all over the US)

And for the "National Sales Manager," (or whatever his title de jour might be), Levi Weppler:

(734) 568-0145 This number is also answered by Tracy Gayler as "Eastern Refinishing"
7069 Ridgedale Ln
Lambertville, MI 48144

A look at GoogleMaps' view of this address might give one an idea of just what kind of company this is - it's a very modest little house in a residential neighborhood. And yes, Google (and law enforcement) associates this address with Eastern Refinishing.

Easternrefinishingrippedusoff
Biloxi Gulfport Mobile New Orleans, Mississippi
U.S.A.

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

A bunch of lies

AUTHOR: Charlie - (Canada)

This "complaint is total crap".

I would like to state for the record that we have an "A" rating with the BBB and have been in business for 41 years. We use the best product on the market (Hawk labs products) and take great pride in being the #1 rated company nationwide. That being said:

I remember this girl/guy.

We scheduled a basic tub to be refinished. When Chris got there it turned out to be an entire 1 piece tub/walls and ceiling. Chris called it in and; after speaking to this "person" we declined the job. They wanted us to do it for the price of just a tub and "it was our fault for not pricing it properly". Well, that was not happening.

We told Chris that if he wanted to do it; since he drove 2 hours to get there; that was up to him but we would have no part of these people. Chris refinished the tub and apparently touched the tub with his hose when he was finished. He then made matters worse trying to fix it.

What got Chris fired was the way he handled the repair. He actually sent his "Wife" out to fix it. He apparently could not deal with these people either.

The secretary called us to complain about the job and we explained that we walked away from them and the job (as they were well aware). They wanted us to "force" Chris to come back out and we explained that we had nothing to do with their job and wanted nothing to do with them. They seemed to have forgotten the part where we declined the job and they thought that we were somehow responsible for Chris. After trying to explain many times that we had declined the job (and they knew that) I actually had to call the police to get them to stop harassing us. NO MONEY CHANGED HANDS WITH THESE PEOPLE!

All of the "comments" made by this "little girl" about us are both petty and untrue. They thought that they could get us to do the job no matter what bad information they had given us. We give prices based on what information is given to us by the customer. If they lie or hold back info; the price given can be wrong. I believe they were well aware of the actual tub size and were trying to bully us into doing it. We don't bully well and they got caught. This apparently made them mad.

We do over 10,000 tubs per year and you can't please everybody. 

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