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  • Report: #855830

Complaint Review: Empire Medical Training

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  • Submitted: Sun, March 18, 2012
  • Updated: Sat, March 09, 2013

  • Reported By: EmpireClassActionSuit — United States of America
Empire Medical Training
Internet United States of America

Empire Medical Training The horror stories you read are true. Not sure how this company stays in business. Internet

*Consumer Comment: I have not seen any of this problems

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: YOU DECIDE, WATCH OVER 100 YOU TUBE VIDEOS ON COMPANY

*Consumer Comment: ALL TRUE

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This operation is one of the most defunct operations I have ever run across.

Many years ago, Dr. Stephen Cosentino owned a pain management clinic.  He sold that a few years ago as part of a plea bargain to keep his license from showing a suspension.  The FL medical board took his license away because he was found to be addicted to opiates.  He was also supposed to attend classes but was able to get around that.  This guy is one of the BEST con artists I have ever known in my life.  You can search his medical license and it will show active with no disciplinary action, however it is all "hush hush" since he scammed the board.  To this date, he still manages to get his opiates and continues to face a major drug problem--that should make sense to those he has blown up on verbally if you manage to get him on the phone.

Mr. Horninger, another prime example of a con artist has also acted as a physician at several conferences, lied to physicians about his "fake" cocktail injections that were used on patients (to save money) and/or tries to chase every female attendee into a one night stand.  He is just as bad as Mr. Cosentino.  They would be a perfect match in a jail cell to sit and think about all the people they have screwed.

Call the AAFP (913-906-6000-ask for Sheryl or Paula in CME Dept) and ask them why Empire Medical is no longer certified to offer AAFP CME Credits. 

Several of the faculty on the website have spoken with us and most have not worked with Empire in many years.  Some even have outstanding honoraiums that have yet to be paid. 

The newest scam is the AAOPM website.  What a joke.  They made it up and charge you a bogus fee to send you a certification claiming you are a certified medical professional.  Are you serious?  

The classes are very unorganized.  Yes, the students end up teaching a lot of the class.  Most of the class is about upgrading memberships, buying the marketing and or laser sales.  It would be correct to say, you will inject 1 patient in Botox and Fillers.  Make sure the meds are packaged and opened in front of you.

For more information, or if you have been screwed by Empire Medical Training and are interested in joining the complaint to the medical board, please email contact info to: (((ROR redacted)))

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#1 Consumer Comment

I have not seen any of this problems

AUTHOR: Shdwhealer - ()

I have attended several of Empire's classes, one in NY and the rest in FL. I have been greatly satisfied with the instructors and the teaching. My Botox class was of a managible size and included several hands-on procedures. The only class with which I had a problem was the Anti-Aging course in NY, and that problem was from several of the students ("doctors") who continued to ask redundant questions to the point that the instructor (who was extremely knowledgable) could not cover the course. I mentioned this to the staff, and I was promplty given a list of when this course and instructor would be teaching again for me to retake it (free).

The two individuals you mention were in none of my classes. My instructors were all knowlegable and well versed. I have even discussed with one of them about part-time employment at one of their clinics on a locums type basis. I checked this out for obvious reasons and it is legit.

I was never pushed to buy anything. They had a couple of commercials if you will on the website design, but they were held seperate from the primary lesson plan.

Further, I am sorry, but the continued comments about who is sleeping, or trying to sleep, with whom, seem childish and irrelevant. If you are upset about this, it is an ethical issue. This has nothing to do with the lectures or the level of training.

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

YOU DECIDE, WATCH OVER 100 YOU TUBE VIDEOS ON COMPANY

AUTHOR: Physician Advisory Board - ()

The gentlemen who we have learned wrote this post was terminated due to plagiarizing content (among other things), which is also ironic because even now he had to copy a post written over 4 years ago from a disgruntled employee.

The problem with posting anonymously like this is that the author can write whatever they want without having to worry about retribution. The facts, and being truthful are less important to the writer than trying to disparage the company they are angry with or in competition with. Many of the posts I have read here have mixed statements of truth and inaccuracies, which is NOT helpful when trying to evaluate a company.

If you are truly interested in evaluating the quality of our company and training programs, the best way is to go straight to YOUTUBE as well as the About Us and Resources section of our website. Here you will see over 100 videos (as of this time) from real life individuals. These videos are taken from the actual events, live programs of the seminars you want to evaluate. You will see different teachers, physicians and other speakers actually giving the seminars. Some videos are even full-length instructional videos that we give to our attendees after they attend a workshop. You will also see close to 100 DOCTORS AND OTHER HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS describe their experiences with our company in detail. In addition, you will see and listen to some of our physician instructors talk about the programs as well. These videos should give you a very clear picture of our seminars. Anonymous posts typically provide less than truthful statements, are vindictive, and are intended to serve the writers benefit not the reader.   

Keep in mind, our organization has provided medical education to Health Care Practitioners for over 15 years and successfully trained well over 30,000 individuals. When a company trains this many individuals for so long there is no doubt you are going to find complaints of this nature. It is unfortunate when the posts are anonymous, though, because they only confuse the reader as to the truth. We continue to see individuals and companies emerge overnight who attempt to copy our programs and offerings and write negative statements about our organization. Many seem to disappear just as quickly, not having the resources or professional staff to properly deliver the same quality of training our customers have seen from us since 1995.

If, after all of this, you are still concerned, we offer readers the following GUARANTEE: You are welcome to attend a seminar FREE and only pay us if you are happy with the program. We dont see many guarantees like that out there but we know you will be happy because our programs are outstanding. In addition, please understand that we are trying to accommodate you but because we operate as a business we must utilize certain safeguards to prevent others from taking advantage of what is otherwise a very good opportunity. To get started and take advantage of this opportunity, please contact our training coordinator for additional details.

To take a look at some real videos visit YouTube or our website and navigate to the about us or resources section.
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#3 Consumer Comment

ALL TRUE

AUTHOR: responsible Party - (United States of America)

I CONTACTED THE CME DEPT AND YES THIS COMPANY IS RUN BY CROOKS BEWARE DO NOT SEND THEY YOUR MONEY YOU WILL BE SORRY YOU GET WORTHLESS CERTIFICATES AND NO CME CREDITS  DO NOT WASTE MONEY ON THIS SCAM  STEPHEN COSENTINO HAS NOTHING HE RENTS HIS HOME AND BUYS THINGS IN OTHER PEOPLE NAMES TO AVOID BEING SUED  HE IS A F*CKING LIAR AND THEFT.....

I HAVE SEEN BILL HORNIGER TRY TO SLEEP WITH THE FEMALE DRS THAT ATTEND THE SEMINARS HE IS HORN BAG WITH A WIG  BEWARE OF THEM.
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