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  • Submitted: Fri, August 12, 2011
  • Updated: Mon, March 04, 2013

  • Reported By: Out Spoken — Florence Internet Italy
European Dream Connections
Sacramento, California, U.S.A. Sacramento, California United States of America

European Dream Connections Dishonest, Deceitful, Suspicious, and Prejudice, Sacramento, California

*Consumer Comment: European Dream Connections AKA Dream Connections

*Consumer Comment: THIS COMPLAINT IS BOGUS - EUROPEAN DREAM CONNECTIONS IS GENUINE AND A THREAT TO THE BAD GUYS!

*Author of original report: EDC Remains Always Corrupt

*General Comment: EDC, no bad posts! Post all bad of this anastasiadate

*General Comment: Sour Grapes!

*Author of original report: EUROPEAN DREAM CONNECTIONS IS NOT CLEARED OF ANY ACCUSATIONS (THESE ARE ALL LIES); HERE ARE MORE FACTS

*Consumer Comment: Mark Davis and Anna Davis EDC

*Author of original report: EUROPEAN DREAM CONNECTIONS IS NOT CLEARED OF ANY ACCUSATIONS (THESE ARE ALL LIES); HERE ARE FACTS

*Consumer Comment: Get To The Point Please! What Happened?

*Author of original report: EUROPEAN DREAM CONNECTIONS IS NOT CLEARED OF ANY ACCUSATIONS (THESE ARE ALL LIES)

*Consumer Comment: OK! Now we get closer to the truth - and EUROPEAN DREAM CONNECTIONS is cleared of the accusations!

*Author of original report: COMPLAINT WITH MERIT: Mark and Anna Hurt People

*Consumer Comment: COMPLAINT WITHOUT MERIT!

*Author of original report: Don't Believe the Lies of Anna and Mark Davis of their Stooge!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: All Lies put out by AFA also know as A Foreign Affair from Loveme.com

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It is better to get right to the point and say that Mark Edward Davis and Anna Astifiera-Davis are dishonest, deceitful and full of prejudice.  I say this without any shame and only with the truth on my side but it is well known that both are without shame in what they are doing in being deceitful!

No matter their appearance there is a hidden deception that is going on in their business and one should not be fooled by them at all concerning this!  This means one can be very suspicious about them!

They are the promoters of a business called European Dream Connections (as if European Dreams are better then all other dreams to connect with) that concerns tours for women!

They both share a 25 year age difference in their "connection" where she was 18 years old and he was 43 years when they connected!  (Mark Davis' son could now see his stepmother as his older sister at the same time!)

But this is just a side issue but the main issue comes next!

Those who have had dealings with them in the past have noted a lack of seriousness they have when it comes to helping others. [continued below]....
.....  This is the dishonest and deceitful and deceptive part about them.

One will find that they are more into "games" and "fun" than actually the seriousness about helping others for example in giving others helpful information when this is requested from them.

Mark Edward Davis actually has instead of giving one important most needed information has used the opportunity to provide one with information on comedy-that's right-comedy!

How can one ask for important information and get back comedy in return???  Well in the minds of Mark Edward Davis and Anna Astifiera they could care less and have shown that they care less because to them all you are is a paycheck for their business once you go on their tours!

So in other words by them doing this they are actually saying that you are just a big Joke to them!

Now what if one complains-Well it has been found that in order to be part of their tours one must be part of their forum but others have said that when they have complained to Mark Edward and Anna about certain issues like these that they have literally blocked them from the forum!

Plus they have also been known to refuse to reply back to emails sent to them about why such had to happen.

Instead of fixing the problem that others have complained about they try to cover over the problem and try to silence those who would complain about issues that they have a right to complain about like the information issue in the example above by getting them off their site!

This is their prejudice in dealing with others!

Well today someone is speaking out about their victimization and mistreatment of others.  For others to claim that they are the "real deal" is not the case at all and they are more the "deceitful deal" instead of the real one!

It is time that they be allowed to not get away with what they are doing and that is the reason why this report will be a permanent record to expose their deception and deceit so that all others will know that they are not all that genuine as "others" might say that they really are!

Don't believe everything the "others" say such as them being completely 100% "real"!

For the reader reading these are complete lies!

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 08/12/2011 08:54 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/European-Dream-Connections/Sacramento-California-/European-Dream-Connections-Dishonest-Deceitful-Suspicious-and-Prejudice-Sacramento-C-764555. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

European Dream Connections AKA Dream Connections

AUTHOR: Judge - (USA)

First of all European Dream Connections is now "Dream Connections". First of all anyone interested in working with this company must realize that their formula is the following. First identify an impoverished country, recruit women that wish to have a better life,then recruit men that can afford to go. Yes Dream Connections is doing it better than others but it's still about the money. Do they really care about you? My experience and those of many others is "No", they don't care about you,they care about the money. Why would they risk the lives of their clients during civil unrest when a few weeks before their trip to Kiev a passenger plane gets shot down by Ukrainians, a suicide bomber detonates his bomb in Nikolaev and suicide bombers continue throughout Ukraines check points. 

Mark is a master salesman and if you have ever been in sales you know that you have to bullshit at least a little. The success rate they claim is total bullshit. If you find a pen pal  on your trip,they count it as a success. Most men on their trips return with pen pals not wives. Then DC makes a big hoopla of the ones that do find wives, of course,anyone would.

 

Do your homework before giving them your money. First of all it is much cheaper to go on your own,if you are so inclined to. The dollar goes a hell of a long way in all the countries they go to so you can find agencies,interpreters,hotels,food and cell service for soooo much less. Of course they are charging extra to interview girls they recruit thru friends and off the street.If you just want a pen pal any agency will do, and it's a lot cheaper to write letters. If you go you will be ok as long as you have realistic expectations like: being ok to spend a bunch of money for nothing or just a pen pal, risking your safety and hanging out with a bunch of guys. I have spoken to people that have done this and most take several trips to find a bride and then the real nightmares "might" begin. Do some research because that's whole new conversation.

 

One last thing. Why does an honest company change their name and constantly change their address around the state and to different states? I have been watching and thinking about them for a while and have noticed that the same people might show up in several of their videos and photos, men and women. As on the other sites like theirs the women in the photos are not the same ones that's attend the events. As a matter of fact you will rarely see the same women on their videos that you see in their profiles. 

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#2 Consumer Comment

THIS COMPLAINT IS BOGUS - EUROPEAN DREAM CONNECTIONS IS GENUINE AND A THREAT TO THE BAD GUYS!

AUTHOR: whtknt77 - (United States of America)

DEAR MR. OUT SPOKEN FROM "FLORENCE ITALY":

WE KNOW YOUR ORIGINAL COMPLAINT AND ALL FOLLOWING STATEMENTS FROM YOU ARE FALSE.  WE KNOW YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL WRITER, HIRED BY COMPETITORS TO MAKE REGULAR POSTS HERE TO KEEP THIS COMPLAINT ACTIVE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS FAKE.  GET A LIFE!!!  YOU ARE A LOSER, A COWARD AND YOU DETRACT FROM SOCIETY.  TRY CHANGING YOUR LIFE AND BECOMING A GOOD PERSON WHO CONTRIBUTES POSITIVELY TO SOCIETY, LIKE MARK AND ANNA DO.  THIS COMPLAINT IS BOGUS AND ALL THOSE INVOLVED CLOSELY WITH THE COMPANY KNOW IT.  CHECK OUT THE "USEFUL" VOTES ON THESE POSTS HERE TO NOTICE THE TRUTH!  EDC WANTS TO HELP MEN FIND THEIR FUTURE SOULMATES IN UKRAINE - NOTHING MORE OR LESS.  AS FOR ALEX PINTO - STOP SLEEPING WITH THE GIRLS IN YOUR AGENCY, MARRIED MAN!
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#3 Author of original report

EDC Remains Always Corrupt

AUTHOR: Out Spoken - (Italy)

The proof is here already to be seen that EDC that was initiated by Mark and Anna indeed remains corrupt and stained by the ugliness of its deeds, acts and ways (and the evidence is not coming down about this at all).  Comments about "Sour Grapes" are just plain stupid ones because they are only meant to distract from the correct comments about these seriously twisted, devious and indeed Evil individuals Mark and Anna and their evil enterprise in its dealings and ways.

This report is permanently affixed here to expose them and such will remain a testament of that exposure against these deceitful people named Mark and Anna-Even when it also comes to them damaging other companies by those that they send to these companies on their behalf as has been previously attested to in one of the updates of this report.  Deceitful creeps like these are more like a breath of noxious gas-one has just got to make sure that they don't breathe any of it in.
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#4 General Comment

EDC, no bad posts! Post all bad of this anastasiadate

AUTHOR: JohnrT - (United States of America)

Greetings,

I wish to say hell to all! My name is John, I live and work in Kiev, Ukraine. I can say of all the interesting things of this international dating and or marriage brokers, EDC has nothing to worry about in complaints that I can see, but this one. Yes to all that posted here about the bad of Anastasia date, yes that is the agency that is the worst of all. There is many postings here, and I even helped with findings to prove that one lady was as they say to good. She also was removed from Anastasia date, that really surprised me, usually they do nothing about this type of thing.

To all with bad experiences with Anastasia date, if you could please post them under Anastasia date with all information you have of them in their deceitful ways, all evidence is greatly appreciated for future reference. Once again I see nothing bad over here of EDC, I think that the man posting here is troubled in some way, age difference is not a concern in the EU, only in USA, but it is over looked now. Most ladies go after older men in America now, why because they have and are settled down. It is good to see that a agency prides itself in cleaning up the dating market, we need to just make the good stand above the bad, the shadow keeps the light off the bad and sooner or later they will die! Keep the posting up, positive writings of good companies are not heard from only the bad ones. Remember to post the bad of Anastasia date! Thanks





JohnrT





Kiev, Ukraine
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#5 General Comment

Sour Grapes!

AUTHOR: Curt - (United States of America)

As a man who lives in the country of Ukraine 6 months a year and sees firsthand the deception that goes on within the "very crooked and dishonest" dating industry i must say that Dream Connections is doing it the right way.

It sounds to me like this person who has written this complaint did not get the results that they wanted and that he is now placing all of the blame on Mark and Anna.

Woman from Ukraine are strong,independent and very educated and could one really think that just because someone pays $7000 that this would attract a woman to a man who would not be worthy of their love? I don't think so.

So it sounds as though this writer has a case of "Sour Grapes" because he did not get the results that he felt his money paid for.

And yes, buyers remorse is a tough thing to swallow sometimes but in this instance it sounds as though the person who is complaining made his own bed and he is a bit upset that he now has to sleep in it.

So my question to him would be "why is this the fault of Mark and Anna Davis?" You were not truthful about yourself in your profile and when it came down to it it sounds like you were not accepted by some of these lovely ladies in Ukraine.

You misrepresented yourself and you really have no one to blame but yourself for the results that you received.

I find European Connections to be a breath of fresh air in an industry that desperately needs cleaning up.

And even though i have never met Mark or Anna or even been on a tour with their company i have seen enough to know that they are doing things the "right way" and also with integrity and that is why i have taking the time to write this rebuttal.

I have a very strong dislike for people who fabricate the truth and make up lies about other people and or companies who are doing things the right way and what you have written is "not the truth" about this company or this couple and it is just shy of being outright slander.

Their are always two sides to every story and you usually find the truth somewhere in between.

But in this case their is no in between. Your dis-satisfaction of the tour you took to Ukraine to meet the woman of your dreams was of your own doing and no one else is to blame for the results or lack of results that you received but you.

And the sooner you take responsibility for that and admit that you were just not what these woman expected or wanted in a man or future life partner the the better off you will be.

And i am more than confident that Mark and Anna are counting their blessings that they "did not" take on this person who wrote this article about them and their company as an investor.

I could only imagine what a nightmare to them that would of been.God was certainly watching over them.
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#6 Author of original report

EUROPEAN DREAM CONNECTIONS IS NOT CLEARED OF ANY ACCUSATIONS (THESE ARE ALL LIES); HERE ARE MORE FACTS

AUTHOR: Out Spoken - (Italy)

Your idea about these crooked and wicked people being as "perfect" is all wrong.  I am extremely grateful and thankful that I was able to find exposure of the wicked dealings of EDC from another agency owner who experienced it firsthand and we have Alexandre Pinto of Poltava to thank for that.  If you want to find out more I suggest you go ask him.

This therefore justifies my argument about the crookedness, wickedness and evil that I had to face with Mark and Anna and that there is crookedness and wickedness that is going on with the EDC most definitely behind the backs of its members that is very disguised and seemingly camouflaged that they do not necessarily get to seeUnclean and polluted people like Mark and Anna (which indeed they most certainly are) cannot do any so-called "cleaning up".

The societal issue you mentioned is not being discussed here but the operations of wicked and corrupt individuals known as Mark Davis and Anna is that which is being discussed here.  Please post your evidence about Anastasiadate.  It indeed will be good to see such as you have "claimed".

Mark and Anna and European Dream Connections (EDC) are Corrupt and I am sorry that a Poltava agency owner from personal experience with the EDC had to find out the hard way about that but the record of such is clearly there to be seen.
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#7 Consumer Comment

Mark Davis and Anna Davis EDC

AUTHOR: Djackson - (United States of America)

I do not know where your found your information but I have been a member and gone on a tour with him and even shared a room with him. I have been with two other companies and I can tell you it is a dirty business that Mark is trying to clean up. I have been to the Ukraine many times just on the street and in Russia the same way. I have yet to see a man of color over in any country. But that is their society. Our society not long ago was worst if you do not remember. I do not believe that EDC bases it's clientele based on race or religious background. I have talked to another agency about a friend of mine who is of color and he said it would be difficult to find him dates. I also talked to an English teacher in a local college and asked the same question and she said the older people would not but the younger ones might. I am talking anything but Caucasian. It is not the touring companies making these rules. Who made the rules for our country. I can also tell you that one of the founders met his wife and they are a mixed couple. Mark is trying to clean up the sex tours and that is how he screens. I have been on a group tour with him and a private tour with his wife and race has never been a topic. Mark and Anna have been great for me and many other men. If you want to get ripped off go to Anastasia Date and I can give you proof of their receipt. I was interviewed about their practicess And how I know and have the proof. So if you want to complain choose the right person,

Doug
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#8 Author of original report

EUROPEAN DREAM CONNECTIONS IS NOT CLEARED OF ANY ACCUSATIONS (THESE ARE ALL LIES); HERE ARE FACTS

AUTHOR: Out Spoken - (Italy)

So you wish for me to get to the point with the facts.  Well then let's introduce some facts that recently came from the words of Alexandre Pinto (also known as Alex Pinto) who runs a dating agency in Poltava.  He recently made these surprising statements about one individual who went by the name "Buccaneer" from European Dream Connections on the site known as the complaints board who posted against his agency and in turn he basically exposed the corrupt ways of European Dream Connections.  Here are his own words taken from the complaints board with the relevant information that justifies corrupt activity with EDC being seen:

Date:  12th of Feb, 2012
Author:  Alexandre Pinto

"My name is Alex Pinto and I am the owner of For Him Dating agency!

....I was not planing to give attention to such complain-board, as all the participants here are faceless...

FACTS:

- The personified person "Buccaneer" ("playing the pirate"
- as means the word itself) is Tim.

(as I do not wish to perform the same equal evil person that he is, for now
I'll preserve myself to further identification of himself)

- Tim never was a FHD client. Tim IS an European Dream Connections client who
came to Poltava in a Dating Tour.

- FHD only dealt with EDC administration and provided in Poltava on last
October 22 till 29, all the necessary logistics and pre-chosen ladies to attend
this tour.

- For this fact, I personally never communicate with Tim or received any payment
from him, as all was paid through EDC administration. (the Tour's provider and
salesman customer)

- EDC provided their clients with included translation services free of charge
for the first 3 days (all inclusive - even meals) and Tim was considered bt EDC
a "special case" and gave me orders not to charge him any required
additional translation service after this three days all inclusive. Afterwards,
I understood the reason of this, as Tim was presented as a potential investor
on EDC company.

- Tim never used FHD private transfers or accommodations, as he stayed in a EDC
pre-payed hotel, and was full time transported by bus along with the other Tour
clients. Any consideration he may make upon FHD accommodation and
transportation services are pure speculation and maleficence, as he never
benefited them.

TIM'S PROFILE:

- When back in the USA, Tim was not accurate person fulfilling his information
file, omitted and manipulated information, which was crucial to his success in
Ukraine:

- He declared his age to be "over 40" - he is 51

- He declared to have 2 children at his responsibility - he has 3 (one of young
age) plus dependent parents.

- His body type is chubby, 5''7" height and 229lb weight.

- He presents himself without self-esteem, not physical cared appearance, not
talkative easy going or cheerful to communicate with.

- For his useful 5 days free in Poltava, he chose 34 ladies to meet.

If he would be an "easy case" to deal with, and if I would not screen
the level of the ladies I work with, maybe Tim had been lucky on his quest. But
unfortunately he wasn't!

I personally and categorically decline any kind of responsibility on his
nonsuccessive tour!

No one finds a wife in 7 days. There are to many details beside time, that are
determinant to a succeeded. Tim didn't gather any of them!

Tim was my "friend" on Facebook. Along with 26 other persons he had
the opportunity to create friendship with in Poltava.

I blocked him, due to the obvious and also to preserve his identity from this
complain-board. (for now)

On November 25th last year, (after his tour in Poltava) I privately offered him
my personal help and coach as a regular client with extremely reduced fees,
towards to a better success in future.

On January 16th 2012 he wrote me: (2 months later)

"Tim

I want to thank you for accepting my friend request. I gave you a total of 34
ladies ages rangeing from 25 to 38 years of age. You found me 0 ladies to go
out with. I spent a total of $7, 000.00 for nothing. I went over there with a
goal of getting a life partner and Wife. So I'm disappointed in your service.
Please give me a answer on why you ruined my Trip."

I recall your attention to the fact that he was a EDC customer and we never had
any prior conversation before his arrival in Poltava.

About the veracity and integrity of the explanations that were given to Tim
after his failure, remain between him and EDC's administration.

I'm officially unaware of such explanations... though I know from third parts
that on nothing they benefit or attended to my good name.

Such explanations are exclusive responsibility of the company that recruited,
promoted and sold him the Tour, as well as all the dreams he was told to
believe about dating.

I also declare that for obvious reasons I no longer have commercial relations
with the Tour Company European Dream Connections!"

Conclusion:  In other words then there seems to be a link connected with damaging the reputation of others and European Dream Connections.  These again are not my words but the words of a dating agency owner.  So therefore the conclusion can therefore be made that the Accusations made to support the case that concerns the corrupt activity of EDC or European Dream Connections can indeed be justified.
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#9 Consumer Comment

Get To The Point Please! What Happened?

AUTHOR: whtknt77 - (United States of America)

Mr. Complainer - once again you wrote and wrote and wrote and didn't explain in detail what happened to you, so the people reading this can't decide if a deception or dishonesty or ripoff occurred.  Will you please tell the details of what advice you were seeking and what exact comedy Mark Davis gave you in response.  Then we can all decide for ourselves if European Dream Connections is all the things you accuse it of being.  You can not go into a court room and make general negative statements about someone, and then support your accusations with no details.  And at the start of your explanation, please tell everyone how much money you were ripped off.  That is all anyone wants to know - how you were ripped off (the details) and how much you were ripped off.  This is not a site for trying to smear someone because your feelings were hurt.  Be honest and tell us the facts please!  Did you lose any money at all?  What advice were you seeking?
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#10 Author of original report

EUROPEAN DREAM CONNECTIONS IS NOT CLEARED OF ANY ACCUSATIONS (THESE ARE ALL LIES)

AUTHOR: Out Spoken - (Italy)

Note:  The above title will continue to remain in response to the matter at hand and let me say I only mentioned part of the issue with them.  I only decided to answer the issues in summary fashion the last time I posted and at a later date deal with the points.  The intention of my earlier posting was to state that the claims made by this report are valid coming from a person who has indeed experience in being hurt by these deceptive people.  The title also remains appropriate as well.  Now on to the points to consider:

Let's start with the nonsense posted by AUTHOR: whtknt77 - Chicago (United States of America)


1.  -  complainer seems to think that by naming the company European Dream
Connections, other types of dreams are not as good.  ANSWER - What?
-Yes this is correct because Europe is More than just the Ukraine last one checked.  This makes the title of the company greatly misleading because it only focuses on one women group or type from one location.  Are we to believe that only in Europe are dreams "connections" to be found?  or only in the Ukraine?  Rubbish and Nonsense.So what about America then?  In America according to the New York Times Post there are at least 59.9 million single American women and among this group are real genuine women.  So can't "dream connections" as it is called be with them as well? In Essence they are indirectly stating that European women are better than American women which is a bogus assumption and is regularly used by promoters of such "business endeavors." because they assume that one can find their "dreams" fulfilled with European women (namely Russian ones) than with American woman.  I think every American man who comes up with that crap idea should get slapped in the face for thinking that because a woman is just that-a woman and no matter the cultural difference they still remain just that-a woman.  It seems that everyone who finds something in Europe tends to want to make a business out of it and make money from it even if it ends up hurting people and deceiving people like it has in the process which Anna and Mark have done.

2.  their company, European Dream Connections is a reputable, honest, ethical international dating and matchmaking service-LIES.  If they were honest and reputable and ethical then why hurt other people as they have done very much deceptively.  Hurting others and being "honest and reputable and ethical" does not seem to mix because they don't.  However the words wicked and deceptive do seem to line up with what they have done and if they have been "successful" it is because they have been at being wicked and deceptive.  Also to say that they cannot be wicked and deceptive is completely a LIE-because one is not with them 24/7 a day to prove otherwise.

3.  -  complainer seems to have an "issue" (his word) with their age difference.  ANSWER - What does that have to do with this Ripoff Report complaint?-This shows the absurdity with Mark Davis in that Mark who could be Anna's father actually is promoting this idea that older men who could be the fathers of younger women are supposed to go all over Europe chasing after young women's skirts.  Like if that makes it acceptable.  Just like the same scenario with Doug Anthony Hutchison, 51 who married 16-year-old Courtney Alexis Stoddard/Stodden.  The point is to show how totally absurd this is just like with Doug Anthony Hutchison, 51 who married 16-year-old Courtney Alexis Stoddard/Stodden.  There is something called death and more than often it comes to the one who is much older plus the generation gap means that there is a generational understanding that is lacking where eventually one individual will seek those who are of their generational mindset later on.  it is indeed an inevitability one cannot avoid.

4.  -  complainer has noticed a "lack of seriousness" in their behavior while helping others, calling it the "dishonest and deceitful and deceptive part about them."  ANSWER - ....but why that is considered by the complainer as dishonest, etc....
-Yes It can be considered as dishonest.  A person who is Honest in their business is also Serious in their business as well because you are dealing with people who have paid their money.  If Hurting people is considered "Joyful" then one needs another definition about what joy really and truly is all about.  If you are not serious in dealing with your customers then it shows that you are not really genuine or really and truly honest with them at all.  Even someone with Common Sense will know that A person who is Honest with you as a customer/client is Serious with You as well.

5.  -  complainer seems to have asked for advice and been given comedy??? Oh Yes Indeed it was.  What I got as a response showed me that they were not serious at all and that my issue was being taken as a joke and fun and games like if it was Happy Hour at the Comedy Club.  No wonder Jokers like Anna and Mark will want to "defend" their deception because they are part of the so-called "joke" of deceiving others as well perhaps it seems.  Hurting others it seems is a Joke and Game for Anna and Mark.  Toying with the feelings of well intentioned people gives them a laugh it also appears as well.

Note:  The only person who will deem it necessary to clear this site of any accusation
is me and no outsider will do that for me who may also be liars and deceptive individuals themselves.  If any matter wishes to be dealt with then let european dream connections contact me right here.  Plus I am not an indecent man who believes in garbage like treating women badly nor did I harass anyone but I was indeed deliberately and viciously hurt by them and which does also line up with monetary issues as well.  Honesty is not just about monetary issues alone however and it includes a holistic package and definitely includes the good treatment of good people as a whole.

European Dream Connections remains a  Dishonest, Deceitful, Suspicious, Business Still-Mark and Anna cannot allowed to get away.
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#11 Consumer Comment

OK! Now we get closer to the truth - and EUROPEAN DREAM CONNECTIONS is cleared of the accusations!

AUTHOR: whtknt77 - (United States of America)

Mr. Out Spoken (Complainer), Now we learn that your real complaint is that you were "deeply hurt" in your communications with Mark and Anna Davis.  This is an entirely different matter than what you originally wrote.  Having difficulty when asking advice does not justify you bashing the entire company and using words like "dishonest" "deceitful" "full of prejudice" "without shame" "deceptive".  Additionally, since the website is free to join, and the only cost comes if you go on a tour with them, you personally were not "ripped off", you have lost no money, so I am not even sure why you wrote the initial complaint here - on the Ripoff Report.  There was no ripoff in your case!

What most likely happened is that you either contacted them too often for free advice (they answer the toll-free number themselves and give their cell numbers to anyone), and they finally got sick of you "pestering" them so often - or - you asked inappropriate questions, like that guy who asked about having sex with the ladies early in the tour (see earlier post).
  
Please explain in detail what exact information or advice you were seeking.  Let the people who read this learn the details and decide for themselves if you had any blame at all in the situation - I tend to believe that part of this problem was your fault.  In any case, it has nothing to do with a ripoff of money - it is a personality issue.  Can you tell us the specifics?
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#12 Author of original report

COMPLAINT WITH MERIT: Mark and Anna Hurt People

AUTHOR: Out Spoken - (Italy)

This complaint may not have been well worded in the way that it should have been according to how some may perceive it but it is justified.  In 2011 I joined the Mark and Anna bandwagon where I was greatly and deeply hurt by them.  Because of this I decided that I was not going to let them get away for what they had willingly and shamelessly done and reveal to other about their unscrupulous activity.  The post is therefore justified based upon my own experiences which are full of merit.
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#13 Consumer Comment

COMPLAINT WITHOUT MERIT!

AUTHOR: whtknt77 - (United States of America)

Yes, as the complainer says, let's get right to the point and tell people who read this complaint and my rebuttal that the complaint here is completely without substance or merit.  Mark Davis and his loving wife of 5 years, Anna, who is from Ukraine, are good people, and their company, European Dream Connections is a reputable, honest, ethical international dating and matchmaking service with incredible success in the short time it has been in business.

Let's start with the complaints listed in this ridiculous rant (which rambles on and on without really saying very much that is substantial - lots of name calling and extra meaningless words - did you notice that?):

-  complainer seems to think that by naming the company European Dream Connections, other types of dreams are not as good.  ANSWER - What?

-  complainer seems to have an "issue" (his word) with their age difference.  ANSWER - What does that have to do with this Ripoff Report complaint?

-  complainer has noticed a "lack of seriousness" in their behavior while helping others, calling it the "dishonest and deceitful and deceptive part about them."  ANSWER - They are a friendly and joyful couple, but why that is considered by the complainer as dishonest, etc... is nonsense and ridiculous.

-  complainer seems to have asked for advice and been given comedy???  ANSWER - Mr. Complainer, write in this forum what information you are seeking, and I will provide you with a serious answer, if one is deserved.

-  I give up at this point because the rest of this complaint is just one guy's ranting about being snubbed when he asked inappropriate questions or became a nuisance and was wasting these good people's time.   How much did he spend at the site - NOTHING!  Why?  Please read below:

European Dream Connections (EDC) is real, honest and they have a great service to offer  -  everything on the website is FREE and there is a lot of content there - experts, videos, interviews with successful tour participants and foreign women - the list goes on and on.  There is additional content on YouTube and it's all very informative and straight-forward with no hype and no B.S.  Whoever wrote this negative complaint is just upset because not everyone is well matched with the EDC concept of assisting serious, well-intentioned men to find a good foreign woman for marriage.

Furthermore, if this complainer is upset for getting kicked off a free website, any reasonable person can figure out that he must have issues.  He definitely needs an attitude check.  If I were Mark or Anna, I would refuse to give some people free advice again and again, wasting my time, especially if they hadn't put down a deposit for a tour or if they were rude.  EDC does something that I really appreciate - they screen their members, unlike other tour companies.  They will not work with men who are rude or arrogant or show a general disrespect for women.  They will also screen out men who are married and/or want to travel on a tour for a fling or for sex as a main goal.  

I'm not sure into which category this complainer fits, but I suggest you take a tour with A Foreign Affair or AnastasiaDate - they do not screen their tour participants (and it can be noticed - I know, I went to 3 completely disorganized socials with AnastasiaDate in Odessa and Nikolaev in May, 2011 - a big waste of time and money.  Do you really think the best girls go to those "meet" markets where the number of women are close to 200 for 10 or 15 guys - talk about quantity over quality!  Not to mention how embarrassed I was for so many of the women there who didn't speak to a single guy during the events).

So, Mr. Complainer, just because you didn't "mesh well" with the EDC model and/or had a personality conflict with someone, don't write such a poorly conceived and executed complaint that is without merit or substance.  Just move on and join another tour site and spend money on worthless letters written by paid interpreters or expensive webcam chats with the interpreter sitting off-cam and putting words into the girl's mouth.  Or, better yet, explain in this public forum what information you were seeking that wasn't worth answering by Mr. Davis.  Perhaps that could be the key to his humorous reaction.  I happen to know that 1 guy wrote him and asked about being able to have sex with the women early in the tour because if the sex is not good, then why continue with her?  WAS THAT GUY SERIOUS???????? (yes he was!)

P.S. Since the site and all the information provided by EDC is FREE, and it costs nothing to become a member (you need a sincere heart though) - HOW MUCH MONEY WERE YOU "RIPPED OFF"?  Let me guess - $0.00.
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#14 Author of original report

Don't Believe the Lies of Anna and Mark Davis of their Stooge!

AUTHOR: Out Spoken - (Italy)

Don't believe the lies of Anna and Mark Davis who are liars in their own right and the report bears factual points that very much are provable.  All that which has been stated is 100% correct and 100)% believable and True!

It seems they have their stooges in different places sent out to "defend" them against the truth which clearly exposes their deceitful ways and practices and flies in the face of their wicked ways!  Those who have something to hide will always dance around the truth they are afraid exposes them and here is such a case with Mark and Anna Davis!
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#15 REBUTTAL Individual responds

All Lies put out by AFA also know as A Foreign Affair from Loveme.com

AUTHOR: Bucaneer - (United States of America)

I just want everyone to know that I traced the IP address back to AFA which is another dating site who is known to practice dishonest business practices and are know to slander other business who do the same type of online business.  They go after anyone who is honest and trusting in there dealings with the public.
There is 3 owners of AFA and are based in Phoenix, AZ.  Mark and Anna Davis was clients of John Adams of AFA. and they were fine until they decided to open European Dream Connections which AFA didn't like and know they are both under attack by A Foreign Affair who's website is hosted in Dallas, Texas but there offices are in Phoenix Arizona. I just want to say that if this keeps up then something legal is going to take place with AFA and all the partners.
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