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  • Submitted: Tue, February 05, 2013
  • Updated: Tue, February 05, 2013

  • Reported By: David — Chicago, IL 60654 Illinois United States of America
Exodus Cymbals
39086 WATERVIEW DR BIG BEAR LAKE, California United States of America

Exodus Cymbals Carlos Skinfill Customs Fraud - Working illegally in USA - NOT PAYING TAXES in California - Debts owed to many BIG BEAR LAKE , California

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: EXODUS CYMBALS ARE A SCAM

*General Comment: Carlos is a con man

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Official Exodus Cymbals REBUTTAL

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Carlos Skinfill and Exodus World Class Cymbals is a fraud! He is asking everyone for money. He says he runs a church ministry. I have not seen any documentation to prove this.  Still he asks and gets donations. He is in California and illegally running a business.  He always has money and spends lavishly and  is a big self promoter. He paid internet BOTS and services to up his "LIKES" on Exodus World Class Cymbals Facebook page to around 50,000 "LIKES" but only a handful are talking on the page. Doesn't that tell you something? He has screwed every major company of expensive musical equipment he "ENDORSED". He claims to have opened a recording studio and has contracts with Disney, MGM, Warner Brothers, Sony, etc. He now claims to be a cymbal expert and manufacturer when he is really nothing but buying OEM cymbals. These cymbals are made by Masterwork and Impressions, two no name OEM suppliers. He transfers money from Mexico to USA and maintains a big lifestyle in Big Bear Lake, Ca. He is importing  items to California around customs and the local and state governments knowledge. There are fees and taxes to be paid on inventories that are not being paid. He claims to have sold the name of the business to a friend in Japan for 250,000.00 and he is working for that partner / buyer. This is only a front. If you look at the past business dealings you will see there is a lot of unhappy people that are in the music industry and members of NAMM.  This con artist owes me thousands and worse my time! When you call him he is always busy in in a far away country on business. BUYER BEWARE WHEN DEALING WITH Carlos Skinfill and EXODUS WORLD CLASS CYMBALS! You have been warned!-

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

EXODUS CYMBALS ARE A SCAM

AUTHOR: Josh Broge - ()

I too have been dealing with this "company" for over a year now. None of their numbers work anymore. I was told I would be getting my order in 45-60 days after last payment. Sent last payment and waited for order. Never came. Contacted them and was told ever lie in the book. Waited till December of 2013 and finally had enough. Requested a refund and was told in 5 days I would. 5 days came and went. It is now almost April of 2014. I started dealing with them back in Febuary of 2013. My lawer is now looking into this and I am starting a law suit. We will get our money back one way or another. 

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Carlos is a con man

AUTHOR: sucker100 - ()

I foolishly lent him money. He is personable and talented but his biggest asset is his gift of convincing people he will pay you back after you lend him money. He is a DEADBEAT LIER!!!!!!. God knows what else he does beyond this.

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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Official Exodus Cymbals REBUTTAL

AUTHOR: Carlos Skinfill - ()

To Whom It May Concern,

Here's my direct office phone number 1 (888) 974-1501, please call me and I will be glad to address your concerns.
If you are owed money then fax over any supporting documentation and we will sort all of this out ASAP.  
I realized that you are using a fake name and state since I don't know any person with that name in that state.


Our technical support friends are working to find out the IP address registry for this ''NEGATIVE & DEFAMATORY'' content.  

Exodus Cymbals, Inc  strives to provide the best cymbals in the world to drummers at a reasonable price for the quality offered. These cymbals are manufactured in Istanbul, Turkey by skilled family artisans who are the best at their game. Our experts led by Carlos Skinfill have selected and designed the cymbals that we brand with the Exodus Cymbals name. 

My business records are on file with the appropriate state offices in Sacramento, California and there are no judgements and/or liens against it. 


So here's the REBUTTAL to all this defamatory content.

Carlos Skinfill is involved with ''The Worship TV Channel'' and you can learn all about it at www.youtube.com/TheWorshipTV


Carlos Skinfill and Exodus World Class Cymbals is a fraud! <--Case for Libel if you find out who wrote this, subpoena Ripoff Report's raw access logs. 

He is asking everyone for money. He says he runs a church ministry. I have not seen any documentation to prove this.  Still he asks and gets donations. <--I run an Internet based channel called ''The Worship TV Channel.  I have never asked to anyone in the world for a donation since I do this by my own will and money (This is 100% false and defamatory)  www.youtube.com/TheWorshipTV  we have testimonies of celebrities and guests involved.  ABSOLUTELY NO ASKED DONATIONS TO ANYONE THIS IS A HOAX.

He is in California and illegally running a business.  <--Our business license is available upon request and EIN (Employer Identification Number)

He always has money and spends lavishly and  is a big self promoter. <--A family run businessallows for less $ being thrown at Facebook advertising. 

He paid internet BOTS and services to up his "LIKES" on Exodus World Class Cymbals Facebook page to around 50,000 "LIKES" but only a handful are talking on the page. Doesn't that tell you something? <--We work with Facebook, Inc  to do online promotion from time to time, perfectly legal and not at all frowned upon.  We have statements available upon request unless you think Facebook is a BOT!!


He has screwed every major company of expensive musical equipment he "ENDORSED". <--Sounds like a butthurt former endorsing company owner trying to cause my name harm. 
I know perfectly that my former cymbal company is not happy with the success of Exodus Cymbals in sales, fans and even their own former artists are working with us like a family! 


He claims to have opened a recording studio and has contracts with Disney, MGM, Warner Brothers, Sony, etc. <--My studio works exclusively for Exodus Cymbals, Inc and The Worship TV Channel. (This is more clear than water and you can find hundreds of videos recorded and filmed in our facilities)


He now claims to be a cymbal expert and manufacturer when he is really nothing but buying OEM cymbals. <--"OEM" would indicate a certain mark of quality. We and about 50 other companies who are providing a better alternative for drummers by way of great affordable cymbals and service. This is WHY somebody is trying to make our name dirty. 


These cymbals are made by Masterwork and Impressions, two no name OEM suppliers. <--If they are indeed made by either of these companies then the quality is there to begin with.
However we don't have any relationship with these companies!  It doesn't matter who makes the product! The most important is the high quality delivered to each customer and Artist!



He transfers money from Mexico to USA and maintains a big lifestyle in Big Bear Lake, Ca. <--Bringing money in FROM MX is quite preferable in the average American's eyes than the other way around. Is this illegal? If so. Please somebody explain what's a Wire Transfer or Western Union service!!   No doubt the guy who wrote this IS VERY IGNORANT.


He is importing items to California around customs and the local and state governments knowledge. <--This is the most funny comment!!!  So..we're paying the drug cartels to smuggle cymbals in through the drug tunnels. Riiiight. Wacko alert!  

There are fees and taxes to be paid on inventories that are not being paid. <--The IRS is not stupid and we have all our documents in order and 100% legal.

He claims to have sold the name of the business to a friend in Japan for 250,000.00 and he is working for that partner / buyer. <--A piece of information purposely given to a certain cymbal company employee; a "tracer particle" of sorts. And I know who is involved!  I won't mention the company name because I'm not in the same level of education and ethics.

This is only a front. If you look at the past business dealings you will see there is a lot of unhappy people that are in the music industry and members of NAMM. <--There's a lot of unhappy music people anyway. What could Exodus be doing other than trying to provide a quality product to drummers?  And this guy is very unhappy because he lost my name, worldwide promotion and skills to sell their own product!!!

This con artist owes me thousands and worse my time! <--Then do like the rest of the civilized world and sue me in small claims court. For if you were bent upon retribution you would have already done so.  (This is again another lie)

When you call him he is always busy in in a far away country on business. <--Drumming is an international business and it's festival season. By the way I always answer my phone to anyone!

BUYER BEWARE WHEN DEALING WITH Carlos Skinfill and EXODUS WORLD CLASS CYMBALS! You have been warned!- <--We welcome you to enquire about our cymbals and for anyone who has seen this and would like to question the character of our company we will provide you THE BEST SERVICE than any other because we are musicians and YES we are experts in cymbals, not only people behind the desk wasting their time and energy watching our success!

When you break this all down it just sounds like a butthurt company owner who is trying to get some sort of a dig in.

Thanks and enjoy the best cymbals in the world please visit:   www.exoduscymbals.com  follow us on Facebook : www.facebook.com/ExodusCymbalsWorldClass  and watch our professional videos on Youtube:  www.youtube.com/ExodusCymbals

Sincerely
Carlos Skinfill.
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