- Report: #332639
Complaint Review: FCNB/ Midland Credit Management/ Midland Funding LLC
| FCNB/ Midland Credit Management/ Midland Funding LLC P.O. Box 1259
Oaks, Pennsylvania U.S.A. |
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FCNB/ Midland Credit Management/ Midland Funding LLC incredible attempt to collect debt that was paid off 14 years ago. Oaks Pennsylvania
*Consumer Suggestion: Regarding the "petition"...LEARN THE LAW!!
*Consumer Comment: My Petition to shut down Midland Funding LLC!!!
*Consumer Comment: My Petition to shut down midland funding LLC
*Consumer Suggestion: Small correction.
*Consumer Comment: Some advice and clarification
*Consumer Suggestion: Statute of Limitations
*Consumer Comment: SOL for OHIO
*Consumer Comment: Dear Heated
*Consumer Comment: Same thing!
*Consumer Comment: Tracy, you are incorret I believe.
*Consumer Suggestion: Watch Midland Funding LLC, they will sue you , it does not matter if the debt is time barred
*Consumer Comment: Advise
*Consumer Comment: First National Bank - Midland Funding
*Consumer Suggestion: Go one step farther
*Consumer Suggestion: It's even simpler than that..Burden of proof is on them.
*Consumer Suggestion: do NOT agree to pay anything
*Consumer Suggestion: A few things.
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Fix it the right way.
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I had no idea what this debt was as we paid off our 2 FCNB credit cards (Speigel and Eddie Bauer) many years ago. i know that these credit cards were paid in full somewhere between 1992-1994 because it was a requirement in order to obtain a mortgage to purchase a home.
I called MCM today and spoke with a representative. I asked him what company this debt was from and he told me it was Spiegel, from March 1994. I explained to him that this was not a valid debt as it was paid in full many years ago. He told me either i could provide proof that the debt was paid or i could submit payment of debt to MCM. I explained that i would be unable to provide proof, since it was 14-16 years ago, he told me that i would then be held responsible for the debt.
Am i going to be forced to pay this company $312, just so my credit is not ruined? Is there some organization that protects consumers from this kind of injustice?
Macgal
Seattle, Washington
U.S.A.
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Search Tips#1 Consumer Suggestion
Regarding the "petition"...LEARN THE LAW!!
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 26, 2010
There is no provision in the law for a "petition" to close down a business.
Won't happen. Don't waste your time.
These are big, corrupt companies, with DEEP pockets and SLIMY "lawyers" that know every trick in the book.
You need to EDUCATE yourself in these matters if you want RESULTS and to NOT look stupid.
Get a grip, and PLEASE stop SPAMMING this forum with your "petition" NONSENSE.
Thank you.
#2 Consumer Comment
My Petition to shut down Midland Funding LLC!!!
AUTHOR: stop_midland_funding_LLC - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 25, 2010
The petition site is at thepetitionsite.com Type in google search engine thepetitionsite.com and when you are in the site go to search in the site and type in Shut Down Midland Funding LLC to find my petition!
I hope you join in the fight with me!
#3 Consumer Comment
My Petition to shut down midland funding LLC
AUTHOR: stop_midland_funding_LLC - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 25, 2010
The petition site is at thepetitionsite.com Type in google search engine thepetitionsite.com and when you are in the site go to search in the site and type in Shut Down Midland Funding LLC to find my petition!
I hope you join in the fight with me!
#4 Consumer Suggestion
Small correction.
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 27, 2009
It doesn't work that way. The defendant MUST ASSERT an expired SOL defense. The courts will NOT assert an expired SOL for the defendant. The defendant motions for dismissal because the SOL is expired. The plaintif must then prove that the SOL is not expired. The judge will not do this for you.
#5 Consumer Comment
Some advice and clarification
AUTHOR: Tim - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 27, 2009
First, the above rebuttal made the following statement: "And if they take you to court they have to prove the Statute of Limitations has Not run out." This is not correct. The statute of limitations is an affirmative defense. The defendant has the burden of showing that it is more likely than not that the SOL has expired.
If you are sued, and you want to go solo, be sure to file an answer to any complaint in a timely manner and, in your answer, assert the SOL as an affirmative defense. Mention the particular statute.
Along with the answer, file a motion to dismiss based on the expiration of the statute of limitations.
This may just be a solid case to go lawyer-free. Just familiarize yourself with the appropriate court rules regarding pleadings and motions.
Best of luck!
#6 Consumer Suggestion
Statute of Limitations
AUTHOR: Tripletmommy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, May 26, 2009
#8 Consumer Comment
Dear Heated
AUTHOR: Victim Of Collections - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 29, 2009
AZ Statute 12-543 is VERY GREY and no appellate court has ever ruled on this Statute. Jerold Kaplan will argue the SOL is six while others who represent those being collected against that the SOL is three.
While the FTC states that time-barred debts may not be sued upon....it does not prevent it from happening. AND it happens EVERY DAY. Access the website http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov for Justice Courts and search Midland Funding. I am quite certain that everyone one of those cases are "time-barred" according to the FTC. This means absolutely NOTHING to the Justices on the bench.
I have a summary judgement that was granted against me and Midland had all of one fabricated statement of theirs (my name was not even on it) and one statement from the original creditor (very poor copy) dating back to 2003 for a credit card that was reported lost!!!!! The Justice did make one huge error though...he granted the summary five days prior to the time on answering actually expired.
Case LC2008-000690-001 from January 2009 is the AZ Superior Court's reversal of a lower court's decision regarding SOL being 6 years.
#10 Consumer Comment
Tracy, you are incorret I believe.
AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 05, 2009
#11 Consumer Suggestion
Watch Midland Funding LLC, they will sue you , it does not matter if the debt is time barred
AUTHOR: Tracy Akron - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 04, 2009
Tracy
Technically, a debt collector can come after you forever for defaulted debt...however, once the statute of limitations is up...they've lost the power to successfully take legal action. Per the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, you can send them a "cease communications" letter and that will be all that you need to do. Per this law they must cease collection activity.
Send the collection agency a letter via Certified Mail + Return Receipt stating:
Per the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, I am requesting that you cease all communications with me about this alleged debt. This letter is being time stamped via Certified Mail and I can confirm receipt. I will pursue each subsequent phone call from your office with a $1,000 per incident penalty for Fair Debt Collection Practices Act violations.
* DO NOT sign your signature on any document that you mail to a debt collector. It could end up on a forged document that can be used against you. Simply type your full name.
If the debt collector calls back, tell them that you have officially sent a certified letter to them to cease communications with you per the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
Don't let them scare/bully you into paying this ancient, time-barred debt with bogus threats of arrest or legal action...they can't do either...they are powerless over you.
#13 Consumer Comment
First National Bank - Midland Funding
AUTHOR: Victim Of Collections - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 17, 2009
A little research and here is what went on with FCNB in 2003:
RE: FCNB - First Consumer National Bank Credit Card - web site gone - old phone number doesn't work - statements not being issued - however, found new way to view account and make payments FCNB - First Consumer National Bank Credit Cards I have been having the same problems as many other posts here. They are bankrupt and were ordered by the OCC to stop issuing new cards. Thier old phone number doesn't work anymore, thier web site is gone, and I don't receive statements anymore. However, I have found information to help those of us with accounts. Apparently they have contracted with another company to take over thier credit card services until all accounts are paid and closed and they totally shutdown the FCNB card group. I was able to log on, view my account, make a payment and more from the new site. Here's the info I came accross: CardMember Services, located in Norcross, Georgia, has been engaged by First National Bank of Omaha to provide customer service for First Consumer's credit card account holders. Services are available over the web at www.CardMemberServices.net / FirstConsumers and through our automated voice response system at 1-866-691-0053. You may also reach us at P.O. Box 922788, Norcross, GA 30010-2788. Hope this helps!
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Date: Saturday, 27-Sep-03 00:00:00 CDT
First Consumer National Bank Credit Card Consumer Comments
Author: Jim
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:34 am
Post subject: First Consumer National Bank Credit Card Consumer Comments
Dear Webmaster,
FCNB Closed for good in Feb or March of 2003. It would be helpful to post this under FCNB, Eddie Bauer, and the other one I can't remember to let all persons viewing your site that this is what happened to them.
Got a postcard, actually two, one for Visa and One for MasterCard to stop using the card as of a date listed.
For the first month or two, you could get someone on the phone. They closed the bank!!! Was able to get info from Bank Officer that they were closed because of too many outstand bad debts and the parent bank (holding company) just pull the plug and that is that.
Holding company is now dismantling bank assets and liabilities. I think that they are forwarding mail and just post it when they have time. Hate to say it, but it is probably legal. That is why everyone is getting late fees on accounts that were mailed last month (last cycle).
#14 Consumer Suggestion
Go one step farther
AUTHOR: Benn - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, May 24, 2008
If so then you will need to contact the bank in question and have them do a research on the account and have them copy the check(s) in question. This will cost you but in the long run it will be worth the money. The bank will take a month or two since its so old but give them as much information you can to make their job easier and save you some money. All checks are copied and scanned onto microfish and stored in or near the bank.
When you get the copies of the check(s) showing it is paided off with endorcements on the back. Send the idiots a copy via certified, return receipt requested and then staple all that together and keep it in a file forever and ever AMEN.
Reason: because this WILL come back again in the future and when it does you will have the proof that is was paid off and then you will have documentation to file a complaint with the FTC and also recourse to sue in your local courthouse for violations of the debt collections act.
#15 Consumer Suggestion
It's even simpler than that..Burden of proof is on them.
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, May 16, 2008
You NEVER have to prove you don't owe a debt.
They always have to prove that you do.
STAY OFF THE PHONE!!
NEVER speak to any bottomfeeder on the phone!!
DO NOT sign any letter you send them, as your signature will most likely end up on a "contract".
Only communicate with them IN WRITING, and by CERTIFIED MAIL, RETURN RECIEPT REQUESTED. Be sure to put the certified# on the letter itself and keep a copy for your records. This procedure is very important, as it proves exactly WHAT you sent.
Unfortunately there is no organization that will actually protect your rights in collections matters. It is up to you to assert your rights under the FDCPA and the FCRA in the civil courts. The FTC will take a complaint online, but will not represent you individually.
#16 Consumer Suggestion
do NOT agree to pay anything
AUTHOR: Nancy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 15, 2008
The statute of limitations for this type of debt in WA is 6 years, so even if they were to sue you in civil court, the SOL being expired is an absolute affirmative defense against the lawsuit.
The reporting period for debts on consumer credit reports is approximately 7 1/2 years so this debt is way beyond that.
You should send them a certified, return receipt requested letter that affirms the following:
A. You DISPUTE the entire amount of the debt and you will NOT pay this debt at this time. Also, you want to demand validation of this alleged debt-you want copies of all documentation that makes them believe that it is your debt and that it is a valid debt. This documentation is to include complete contact information for the CURRENT CREDITOR and the ORIGINAL CREDITOR.
B. Affirm to them that the debt is beyond the statute of limitations and you insist that they forward any documents to you that would establish that the 6 year SOL is not expired.
C. The debt is beyond the reporting period allowed by the federal Fair Credit Reporting Act and that you expect them to ensure that this alleged debt does not show on any consumer credit reports about you. You should inform them that you will be checking consumer credit reports about you and if this debt appears you will seek criminal and civil remedies for violating the FCRA.
NOTE: You need to request a free annual credit report as entitled by the FCRA -go to www.annualcreditreport.com to request your free annual credit report. DO NOT use any other website for this. This is the ONLY website to request your entitled free annual credit report.
D. Only written communication is permitted. If they make any phone calls to you, your family, neighbors, or your employer, said calls will be considered deliberate acts of harassment and appropriate criminal complaints will be filed with law enforcement.
In the meantime, you should read the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act and the Fair Credit Reporting Act to become familiar with your rights. They are available at the Federal Trade Commission website www.ftc.gov
Good luck.

