• Report: #492976

Complaint Review: FLORIDA GUN WORKS/FLORIDA ARMORT

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  • Submitted: Thu, September 10, 2009
  • Updated: Sat, March 10, 2012

  • Reported By: Gun Pirate — Apalachicola Florida USA
FLORIDA GUN WORKS/FLORIDA ARMORT
8306 mills drive miami, Florida United States of America

FLORIDA GUN WORKS/FLORIDA ARMORT the sales manager "matt" got mad at me when i inquired as to why i cancelled my order,and i told him because of too many ripoff reports,and he called me an idiot! and said ripoff report is a fraud the operation has NO PHONE NUMBER LISTED.they insist on doing business only by postal mail or e/mail.the sales guy told me i could "send cash" OH BOY! the whole operation is suspicious and secretive miami, Florida

*Consumer Comment: The Final Verdict...

*Consumer Comment: Regarding "Miguel the moron"

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Again another BS report!!

*Author of original report: miguel the moron!

*Consumer Comment: Florida Gun Works

* : florida "con-artist " work's"

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i was about to place a web-order for 2 rifles,i saw on the site and everything seemed ok, then i got to looking around for a phone number on the site..and could not find one! by chance i then thought to myself that maybe i ought to check them out and that  $ 1500.00 is a lot of gun-dough, so i checked them out on this site and found 38 reports! OH MAN!! 38 reports!..AND these were from people right there in miami and all around the USA.so i sent an e/mail and canceled plan's to submit my order,that i was uncomfortable with 38..now 39! consumer complaint's.the sales manager this "matt" whoever he is is very nasty and sent me an e/mail that if i believed ripoff report/ i  was an 'idiot'.i e/mailed him back and told him that im not only going to place him again in the ripoff report hall of shame,but that im going to report him to the ATF.because clearly he is using and violating federal laws,selling guns and not providing a phone number if im not mistaken.and a whole host of other decent business practices,i also encourage you to report these clowns to the miami-dade, BBB (BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU) AND ANYONE AND EVERYONE IN THE FIREARMS INDUSTRY,so this company will be put out of business pronto! there is no place for this kind of stuff in any respectable business and firearms have a much higher standard when it comes to retail..these are not stale donuts! and i ask all of you reading this..if a gunshop has no moral's or ethic's with regard to financial transaction's.i dont think its a stretch to say that maybe they are not keeping the required records and paperwork.and who knows what they are selling and who is getting firearms that maybe should not?  if someone is dishonest on one aspect they are dishonest period.this place needs to be shut down or taken over with somebody who recognizes integrity and honor.ive been a professional gunsmith all my life 20 plus years,and this is the first time ive come across such a blatant and corrupt company! thank you very much and god bless! RIPOFF-REPORT SAVED ME THIS TIME!

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 09/10/2009 03:41 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/FLORIDA-GUN-WORKSFLORIDA-ARMORT/miami-Florida-33183/FLORIDA-GUN-WORKSFLORIDA-ARMORT-the-sales-manager-matt-got-mad-at-me-when-i-inquired-as-492976. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

The Final Verdict...

AUTHOR: PrivateEye4Hire - (USA)

  Obviously, with all those complaints, and the nasty unprofessional emails to the original poster, the company is crap and no one should do business with them.

  Also...

  The original poster made NO PURCHASE, did NO BUSINESS with this lame company, and has no reason to be on this site. This site is for people who have been "RIPPED OFF". 

     NO BUSINESS DEALING = NO POSSIBLE RIPOFF = FALSE REPORT = NITWIT 

   Also...

   You cant post something on a public website, and then cry that "its none of your business".
 You put it out here for all to read, that makes it anyones business.

    VERDICT:
                    1. The company is not trustworthy and no one should trust them.
                    2. The original poster is a twit and needs to be more productive with his time.

     Now...

    I have made my decision on this matter and i will not tolerate any further bs on this thread.

  
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#2 Consumer Comment

Regarding "Miguel the moron"

AUTHOR: Gun dealer - (United States of America)

Sir, I think you missed the point. What it seems "Miguel" was pointing out is that in your initial post, you identify yourself as a professional gunsmith, with over 20 years experience. If that is true, federal law requires that gunsmiths have a type 01 FFL and as such, you would then be a licensed federal firearms dealer. As a licensed dealer, you would be able to purchase firearms and parts at a greatly reduced cost, and you would not be buying from a retail dealer.

If you have been a professional gunsmith for over 20 years, but you DON'T have the required federal firearms license, then you have been committing felonies all of this time. Miguel the moron, as you called him, is 100% right with that assessment. Aside from that, regarding the root of your complaint, I believe he expressed that he would not buy from them as they have a terrible history anyways.
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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Again another BS report!!

AUTHOR: Matt - (U.S.A.)

Quite simply, how could you have been ripped off if you never placed an order, never lost any money, and never did business with us? All these accusations and not one ounce of proof! Waste of time if you ask me.
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#4 Author of original report

miguel the moron!

AUTHOR: Gun Pirate - (USA)

im not about to explain to you why or what i was considering purchasing from them.that is my business.you are concerned with trivial details,rather than the main point which is i believe is that they are crooked and illegal gun dealers,which is of course great concern to any reasonable person.but you seem so upset over something that is none of your business! ripoff reports are meant to inform and then decide if they have merit,you can agree or disagree with what i said but do not insult me by implying that i 'might be a felon' you seem to know next to nothing about the firearms business and for sure nothing at all about ethics or honesty.you seem to be trying to show off,im sure you are quite impressed by your nonsense comment,but i highly doubt anyone else is.so there miguel let me give you a few choice words,you crawl back on your raft and paddle back to wherever it was you came from!

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#5 Consumer Comment

Florida Gun Works

AUTHOR: Miguel - (United States of America)

I have in the past heard of problems with Florida Gun Works.  Among those complaints is always the lack of phone number to reach them on, and orders not being delivered.  That said, I do have some issue with this specific ripoff report.

You mention that you are a 20 plus year professional gunsmith..yet, you are trying to make a purchase from an overpriced gun dealer...As a professional gunsmith, you would have your own Federal Firearms License, a type 01 FFL..which would then allow you to purchase at wholesale from manufacturers and distributers.  Why would you be making a purchase at way way overpriced retail when you are an FFL yourself.  That's like the owner of a Chevy truck dealership, driving to a competitors dealership to purchase a truck at retail.  It just makes no sense, unless you are an unlicensed gunsmith, which then would mean you are a felon and that doesnt really cast much credence on your report.  Also, you seem to make an issue about them not having a phone number. Specifically you write " that im going to report him to the ATF because clearly he is using and violating federal laws,selling guns and not providing a phone number".  Well....As a Federal Firearms Dealer myself, I know there is no law or requirement to keep or have any phone number available to consumers...So I don't know what you are harping about there.  If you want your complaint to be credible..don't write about things that are of zero value, consequence or are plain wrong.

That said, I would never buy from them as they have a history of not sending out product and still keeping peoples money.

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florida "con-artist " work's"

AUTHOR: Gun Pirate - (USA)

just a quick follow up! no matter what "rebuttal's" you might see posted on here about FLORIDA GUN WORK'S..ask them what is their daytime business phone number?..and ask the west palm beach BBB..better business bureau about them..you will find they are rated "F" not a member and also have a large amount of complaint's against them! for recv payment and not delivering.and ask yourself why? there are no photographs of the shop or the staff on the website.this "matt" sent me an e/mail today..he is upset that i am reporting him because we did not do business and he is so full of wonder why i would take the time to report him,because i did not lose anything..well RETARD!..you see i have spent my whole life as a gun-collector,shooter,dealer,and full time professional gunsmith.i have always conducted everything honestly,above board and full of integrity and deceny.no i was not ripped-off by you,but you tried ! and that makes me very angry and i hope to see garbage like you put out of business!! its easy to talk about your reputation..you have none! except on the -minus side.i hope to help save others grief and wasting their time with such an obvious con.

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