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Complaint Review: Fashion Scents

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  • Submitted: Sun, January 20, 2008
  • Updated: Thu, June 04, 2009

  • Reported By:Rancho cucamonga California
Fashion Scents
Mountain Ave Upland Ca Upland, California U.S.A.

Fashion Scents Total Rip Off Scentura Creations is fake, a fraud and a total RIP OFF Upland California

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Ok THats whats up

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Thanx you for the answers Mr. Gaynor but your spelling and grammar are horrible

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Earley this is earley ? You want anwers ?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Owner Early Gaynor is a Chicken S**T

*UPDATE Employee: Owner Baby we getting money over here. Shout out to donny and holly for the opportunity

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Double-Edged Sword

*Consumer Comment: THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN WORKING THE STREETS SINCE 1991

*Consumer Comment: THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN WORKING THE STREETS SINCE 1991

*Consumer Comment: THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN WORKING THE STREETS SINCE 1991

*Consumer Comment: THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN WORKING THE STREETS SINCE 1991

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when you start they tell you your going to be a rich and they tell you that mike is rich, not true, they tell you the product is real and that you should lie to the customers to get them to buy the scents and when they realize that you lied, and they sue you... oops you signed the contract that you are an indepentant contractor of the company and your the one that is screwed you could lose your house, your car, your family, but you will still have your job
:-)

they con you into working for free for up to eight weeks and the only profit you make if you make any is what you sell so if you are not so good at selling product basicly you become broke but wait didnt they tell you that you were going to be rich? oh what a concept... they lied.... but they never lie remember!!
just watch your back when you apply with them if you do, i don't recomend it there are plenty of other well paying jobs out there you do not need them

Anonymous
Rancho cucamonga, California
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 01/20/2008 04:07 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Fashion-Scents/Upland-California/Fashion-Scents-Total-Rip-Off-Scentura-Creations-is-fake-a-fraud-and-a-total-RIP-OFF-Uplan-301870. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Ok THats whats up

AUTHOR: Mdwethebest - (U.S.A.)

Well Im glad that you moved on and you are doing something good , with yourself even though I believe that not anyone can make a six figure income selling anything that's a lie. I see people who sell car's , sell house's shit I even know rappers who sell there music and know one can make $100,000 but if u got any more questions hit me up 1
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thanx you for the answers Mr. Gaynor but your spelling and grammar are horrible

AUTHOR: Noah From Chicago - (U.S.A.)

About time Earley, thanks for finally giving us some answers. From your response it looks like you might be an exception to the many Scentura owners that fit into these numerous reports. It is nice to know that some owners are more honest than others. To answer your question anyone could make that kind of money selling anything not just Scentura products. I'm not bitter, I was just trying to get honest answers and it took a lot longer than it should have.

By the way I do have a fulltime job, I'm Director of Human Resources for a nonprofit organization in Downtown Chicago. We help people who are underskilled or underemployed to receive job training and ultimately job placement. From the looks of your response you could really use some writing courses. I mean you misspelled the word know! I learned how to spell know in elementary school.

I'm not broke and I don't spend all day on the internet making these posts. The whole point of my posts was to address the deception. Sales aren't for everyone, people who don't want to work in sales don't want to work in sales, so naturally they quit when they find out how much sales are involved before any management aspects are involved.

While your office may not function this way the vast majority do. I'm not giving this even close to my best effort, in order to give it my best I'd have to stand outside offices handing out factual literature about the company and get local government officials involved but I simply don't have that much free time. I have a fulltime job, I practice martial arts, I help my friends throw parties & bar events and volunteer for political campaigns when elections are coming up. This is just a side hobby and to be honest its fun causing a stir.

Thank you Mr. Gaynor my work here is finally done.
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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Earley this is earley ? You want anwers ?

AUTHOR: Mdwethebest - (U.S.A.)

First of all let me introduce myself my name is Earley Gaynor alot has changed since my above post. I been open in my own office for about 3 months so I can only talk what I have experienced with the company Im not anyone amazing I just stuck with the company threw thick and thin. I Have just won the Rising Star award for my office we have went straight from nothing to the #4 office in the country. We are the #1 office on the east coast when it comes to rookies. Jasmine, and Terika are my partners and we are going to become the rookies of the year just from working hard and just dong the business correctly by being honest with people and telling the truth and Im not going to stop Now with this guy Noah who is above me with his little post that he keeps on posting every where so ill answer the questions he keeps asking but even when I do answer the questions at the end of the day it wont change anything about the company in his mind and the only thing he can do is write negitive shit on the internet because he is bitter that he is broke with no job Lol Noah why dont you have a job? If u did have a job you wouldnt have time to be posting stuff on the internet all day. You Blow out's are funny you got nothing better to do then type on the internet but ill answer these small questions This is how my office does it

1.You asked why dont we give sales permits right ? First of all I give all of my car leaders[ which since u are a blow out u dont no what im talking about] the people who lead the cars have a sales permit for each car. Its licensed from p.g county legislation I had to get 12 of them all $100 a piece so that sales permit thing is a lie I dont no what rob and ricki did when u were there in chicago but let it go that was a while ago why are u so bitter lol ur funny blowout.
2.u asked why do we hold ffaar contest if were not going to really going to give out the money right. Easy I heard the same thing when I was in training and i seen so many people complaining about the contest that I was like when I get open Im not going to do that. Which means in my office we dont do a ffaar contest because we dont want people to think that we made it to the top by cheating or tricking people we do everything legit bottle for bottle. { i firgured the only way to change something is from within rather than bitching and complaining and thats what I did I got open and I run my office diffrently .
3.u asked y do we post ad's for recp- asst manager, this is also easy this is another thing that each individual owner can or cant do . Which I chose to do it diffrently and if u dont believe me come to dc and check out the washington post. My ad say's ELM entry level managers must love , money , music and fun no exp required
4.u asked why do we lie about how much u will make. I tell my people that they will make $100-250 a wk while they are in my training program and I promise them that if they work hard that they will get the same opportunity that I got where they can run their own office I am not any better than anyone I just wasnt weak like u noah I dont quit anything that I start all the company ever did was give me everything they said they would and whats funny is people like u are so quick to call this a scam but all they do is promise u an office and answer the question do u actually get an office in the end and then answer is yes ? Me and you both no that u actually get an office because in your ad u said that owners said they dont make no money lol no thats some funny shit I made 11 thousand dollars last month and I am no better than anybody , I am 22 years old , a young black male and I am making this money legally/ Noah so go get a job cause u arent strong enough to run an office.Just to throw out some numbers real quick we sold 808 bottles last week we broke the rookie record right[ oh and check the record if u think Im lieing. We make $10 oer bottle so right there is 8080 dollars that week right there yeah we got to split the money but my business is still pulling in $8000 a wk in a recession most companys are folding and we are expanding were else can a young black man make that kind of money legally ? ANSWER MY QUESTION NOAH ? DONT U HERE ME TALKING TO U , U BLOW OUT ANSWER ME . I AM ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS BECAUSE IM TAKING OUT TIME MY DAY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS SO ALL I WANT IS ANSWERS LOL CUASE I NO U ARE ON THE COMPUTER RIGHT NOW TALKING ABOUT SCENTURA CAUSE YOUR OBSESSED WITH US UR JUST MAD THAT U WAS TO WEAK TO MAKE IT .
5.I dont promise company vacations again your judging scentura threw a blow outs point of view and your not noticing that we are all in diffrent org. we dont do that , this is the schott division we tell them the only way your going on a company trip is when u are an owner. By the way the company trip is Jun 19 2009 South Beach We are staying at the Hard Rocke Hotel Holl@
6.we call u names because u make me laugh noah u are really giving it your best shot at trying to stop people from working for us which is fine. Im not quiting for nobody its to much money to be made and its fun. I cant compare this to a job this is the most fun I have ever had in life @ 22 six figures aint nothing better. But really noah let it go stop writing neg stuff about the company u seem obsessed with rob- ricki and me and u dont even no me lol your probaly a nerd.
7.last question was why is there so many reports against the company.

First of all you have never seen anything up here about Earley or Selah Management thats the name of my business because we do things right in Lanham Md. Thats why we are going to be the rookies of the year cause we do right by the business and and by the people who come threw our doors. Most people stories are all the same they stayed for a couple of days and they quit and now there complaining about how the company didnt work for them well for 1 they said it will be a 6- 8 wk program and most of the people quit before 2nd interview. Ladies and gentleman kisa of all Ages The person Im talking to name is Noah he went threw a training program i chicago and he quit so he is asking questions and judging the company from a quitters perspective so if u are thinking about joining the company then talk to a real owner. Believe me I was not a scentura supporter at first but I wasnt negitive because i didnt no enough to be neg. So I wanted to see if I was really going to get an office and if I was , then I swore that I would give mstions or comments about scentura call me 301 577 6694 office number and 240 286 7471 how real is that I am an owner and Im leaving my name and number on the internet only for people who really want to no info or have questions or wanna no if it is real or whatever the case is NOAh I answered all your little questions so what are u going to bitch and complain about now about how rob and ricki scammed u give it a brake. the real definiton of scam is success comes after merching. I love the business and I love all the Owners thank you Larry Hohn for the opp. thank you donny and holly Ill make u proud Ill do the business correct I swear Peace and blessings see you guys at the top.
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Owner Early Gaynor is a Chicken S**T

AUTHOR: Noah From Chicago - (U.S.A.)

Early Gaynor who calls himself an owner keeps posting the same story and is too chicken to answer my questions

I implore you Mr. Gaynor to give us some honesty!!!! Please answer the following questions.

1. Why do you send people out to sell on the streets without sales permits? You know it's illegal but you send people out anyway! When they get a ticket or a court date do you help them?

2. Why do you hold contests for large cash prizes and fail to deliver? You know it's true, you tell people that the ones who sell the most during FFAAR will get a generous cash prize (in my case $750) and lie to them the next day saying the group as a whole didn't sell enough.

3. Why do you post ads for receptionists and office help when that's not what the job entails? And don't try to tell me that you only advertise for management because you know that's BS.

4. Why do you lie about how much people will make during training? You tell people they can make hundreds a week but they don't. I've read countless accounts from people who worked for a Scentura branch for months and took home little to nothing. I even read accounts from owners that said the majority of what you make pays for the office and advertisements and you take home little to nothing in the end.

5. Why do you promise company vacations when you're really just making people sell in other towns? You know you make them pay for everything themselves and I'm sure you're familiar with the term room bottle."

6. Why do you call people such mindless, unprofessional and immature names like weak piece of sh*t" if they don't play into your deception? Earley you may remember calling me a f*king idiot" for posting facts because you had no real response or intelligent answer for me

7. If this isn't a scam as you continue to claim. Why are there so many reports against this company? Also, why did the Better Business Bureau and an Illinois State ruling call Scentrua a multi-level selling company? Don't try saying that Ford, McDonalds and Wal-Mart have complaints against them too! These companies are at least upfront about their job duties, they pay their employees a steady paycheck and they don't try selling to random people in parking lots without the proper permits.

8. How do you sleep at night? This is a question of conscious so don't go bragging about how expensive your house, bed or car are because it's all from dirty money no matter how you look at it. I really don't understand how you guys live with yourselves by taking advantage of so many young professionals that are just trying to get ahead.

Here's your chance to come clean so don't try saying I'm not being fair!
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#5 UPDATE Employee

Owner Baby we getting money over here. Shout out to donny and holly for the opportunity

AUTHOR: Mdwethebest - (U.S.A.)

First off, let me introduce myself. My name is Earley Gaynor, I went through training a year and a half ago in middlesex, new jersey. When I first started I answered the ad just like everyone else. But unlike the other people that I started with, I stuck with it and I finished the program. When I started I was in Job Corp, I was broke and I had no plan in life. I went from job to job to job until finally I answered the ad, Donnie did my first interview and he gave me the opportunity of a lifetime. When I started I had to do some sales (just like everyone else) but instead of quitting, I had to work harder. Long story short I finished the program in ten weeks (two weeks shorter than my goal). I now run a location of my own in Lanham, Maryland, which means I am a promotion of Donnie and Holly's. I now do the same job that they do, I signed up to be a manager and that is exactly what I am. I didn't get in this to do sales (which no one does). Donnie told me that I could make 30K my first year in the first interview. But in my business in its first year, I made $82,000. I feel like I scammed Donnie. People who blow out in their first or second week obviously didn't understand the business. They give anyone, no matter what race,color,gender, or age, the same opportunity they gave me. Free merchandise, free training, (the day you have to pay for something should be a red flag for you no matter what business) and they also give you the opportunity to move to any state with a business for free. Like I said I went through training in New Jersey and I got the freedom to move to Maryland. Any person with a brain can look at all these negative letters and see that people run offices all over the country. So ask yourself, how did they get there? They got promoted there obviously. Running your own business isn't going to happen overnight, it takes more time and dedication to be successful in this and in any business. Anyone who says this is a pyramid scam or that you dont get promoted doesn't know what THE
F*** your talking about. Everyone has the exact same equal opportunity. All it takes to complete training is working hard( for yourself), dedication, and a little blind faith, believing that Donnie and Holly will get you open. I am so confident that I am going to leave my phone number (NOT FOR BLOWOUTS) but for people who actually want some advice on how to run a successful business for Scentura. 240-380-6157 or 240-330-7566. I have alot of respect for Donnie and Holly because if I was in the position, I wouldn't even bother running an office I would retire. They are great people and unbelievable promoting owners. I am 21 years old, I am black and I make decent money. Thanks to Larry Hohn for giving me the opportunity. When an opportunity like this comes your way it isn't about what someone else did or does for you but what you do with the opportunity yourself. See you at the top.
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#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Double-Edged Sword

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

This company is one that i used ti be employed by. Now after reading most of the comments and complaints ive noticed not that many people do not get past 2 Weeks,and yet I used to work there for 2-3 Months. Now im pretty sure this is going to co-inside with most peoples basic opinion, which is entitrely valid. You can make the money like they told you, and you can also do it legitimally. But its not going to be an easy task. I use to work with a few women on the team who knew how to sell the product, and I remember the girls bringing home on avg $300-$400 a week. When i watched them i noticed that they would pretty much picked out men to market to and then flirt and sucker them in. They would tell me "Sex sells, but dont ever sell sex", at the time i knew what they were talking about, and it made perfect sense. But the guys, well, lets just say they were the ones who would revert to the lying and scamming. They would probably take home $100 tops per week. As for the managers, Mike was smart, he knew who would flake out and just let nature take its course, he used to tell us not to lie and distort the product but to keep to the ideals that the product is based on, which was that the "merch" is not the same as the brand named stuff and to never market it as the same. He just said to recommend Blank if they liked Blank. As for the other managers, well, lots of foul play was around. And yes, you can earn the keys to an office, i know most people say im lying or that its not true but hey, im going to be honest, its really possible, but like to any light there has to be dark. The trainers who worked there way up would gossip and mistreat the rookies. And at times, the trainers would bail out and go do their own thing. Yea they eventually left, but i would not recommend this to anyone who can't take someone negative criticism. Towards the end of my last month before i quit i noticed that most of the top sellers would lean towards each other and team together for fun cars and "Blitz". It was a sure fire way to knock off anyone who couldnt hang and at the same time make money.

But to summarize it all, id like to say its possible to make money, but its hard, and there will be jerks to hinder any progress, and finally, u have must have the drive to deal with any problems that come your way. The only people who i would recommend this job is to someone who has no real time constraints placed on them by responsibilites.
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#7 Consumer Comment

THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN WORKING THE STREETS SINCE 1991

AUTHOR: Margaret - (U.S.A.)

I remember back in 1991 I had a friend that was selling this perfume. It smells good but its not the real thing. 19.99 a bottle is an OK price for a knock scent, but a lot of the higher priced perfumes are showing up after the holidays for the same price in places like Big Lots, Ross Dress For Less, TJ Maxx, etc.

Anyway, the company is a big joke. You are better off purchasing a few bottles then to work for them. I don't know about the law suits though!!
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#8 Consumer Comment

THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN WORKING THE STREETS SINCE 1991

AUTHOR: Margaret - (U.S.A.)

I remember back in 1991 I had a friend that was selling this perfume. It smells good but its not the real thing. 19.99 a bottle is an OK price for a knock scent, but a lot of the higher priced perfumes are showing up after the holidays for the same price in places like Big Lots, Ross Dress For Less, TJ Maxx, etc.

Anyway, the company is a big joke. You are better off purchasing a few bottles then to work for them. I don't know about the law suits though!!
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#9 Consumer Comment

THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN WORKING THE STREETS SINCE 1991

AUTHOR: Margaret - (U.S.A.)

I remember back in 1991 I had a friend that was selling this perfume. It smells good but its not the real thing. 19.99 a bottle is an OK price for a knock scent, but a lot of the higher priced perfumes are showing up after the holidays for the same price in places like Big Lots, Ross Dress For Less, TJ Maxx, etc.

Anyway, the company is a big joke. You are better off purchasing a few bottles then to work for them. I don't know about the law suits though!!
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#10 Consumer Comment

THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN WORKING THE STREETS SINCE 1991

AUTHOR: Margaret - (U.S.A.)

I remember back in 1991 I had a friend that was selling this perfume. It smells good but its not the real thing. 19.99 a bottle is an OK price for a knock scent, but a lot of the higher priced perfumes are showing up after the holidays for the same price in places like Big Lots, Ross Dress For Less, TJ Maxx, etc.

Anyway, the company is a big joke. You are better off purchasing a few bottles then to work for them. I don't know about the law suits though!!
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