On 4-26-05, I called the 800 number and spoke with 'Lisa', hoping to 'validate' their company that is giving out the grants, as I was told on the call I received that got all this started. Lisa told me that the $29.95 they charge is for their program, which teaches you how to apply for grants, that what I claim I was told was not true. She stated that if that is what I was told, then their employee grossly misrepresented the company and what it was all about. I let her know in no uncertain terms how unhappy I was to find them in this website as a fraudulent company.
She said that their name is First National Grants.....totally different than the one listed here. She played the recording I listened to at the first phone call where I authorized them to be able to be paid the fee for processing the direct deposit of the 110% guaranteed grant in the amount of $12,500.00. The only thing the recording states is just that I am allowing them to take that amount from my account and at the very end it tells me that when I receive my letter, there will be an offer inside for me to apply to receive money every year and that offer would cost me $299.95, but I was not obligated in any way to purchase that offer and I could call their 800 number to cancel immediately so I won't be charged that against my bank account.
I still have not received their 'welcome' letter with all the offers inside, but I did call the 800 number the first lady gave me with her grant pitch, Easy One Rate phone plan that gives me unlimited long distance calling, for a flat fee.
The fellow I talked to there, very happily cancelled my trial period of 30 days, which Lisa says is 10, for $9.95, with monthly fee of $49.95 thereafter if I kept the plan. I asked him about First National Government Grant and he said he knew nothing other than his company allowed them to 'sell' their phone plan with their grants.
I gave him this website to look up what they really are just so he would know what his company was affiliated with and how it makes his comany look. I called my bank and they are on the watch for that debit to come in on the wire, and when it does they are going to trace them and first off get my money back, then prosecute them for fraud, with my help and your website's help, because I am printing everything out.
Lisa informed me today that they WILL take that money from me and that there is nothing I can do about it. I told her just go ahead and try to take that money and watch what happens. I asked for a supervisor or manager or owner of her company and she stated that no one was present that was in any of those positions. I told her she was just calling me from her home out of a phone book and getting money fraudulently. When you first call that 800 number, the woman's voice in the recording that tells you all reps are busy and to hold, is the very same woman who called me in the first place and told me I had money coming, etc, etc. Lisa is not the same woman, different voice, but they both have accents.
Well, good luck to everyone that gets tangled up in this, and I really do hope there really will be a class action lawsuit against those people. Easy money is what they are about and they are getting lots of it. I hate that I was stupid enough to fall for it myself, but, things happen.
U.S.A. EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back! HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:
Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.
According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.
If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.
Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent! DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!
Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.
And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.
Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.
If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form. CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD
If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.
Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.
And good luck Let us know how you do!
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