- Report: #142494
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Complaint Review: First NationalGrants
First NationalGrantsW. Sahara Ave. Nationwide United States of America
First NationalGrants, ccs, cca, first National Health Benefits, titan, first National Consumer Credit, first National Everything Rip Off Las Vegas..they are using many different operations.. firts national everything ran out of names to use! las vegas Las Vegas Nevada India *EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account!
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I said again you have the wrong number..oh well is this the owner of this number..i was bored so i decided to see what the deal was..despite the fact i alrady knew who and what they were doing..ill explain later why i know this information.
she recited my home address and kept insisting i give her the zipcode(probably to find the major bank in my area to recite the routing number to me so i would get all excited that shye knew it).
well i jumped over that question and said what company is this?..she said this is first national government grants..dont you trust anything with the word government in it?..i said yeah bit whats the deal?..
she went on about how i had already been approved for the 12,500 dollar loan..i immediatly told her i wasnt interested..she went on about how i wasnt trusting the government..
i said well do i have to pay for free money? she said yes its a small fee of 29.99 for processing it..i said well im not interested yall are scam artists..i dont know how yall go to sleep at night taking s**t out of peoples mouths..im not giving you anything to fund your terrorist organization and hung up.
i havent recieved any more calls..but i have my suspicions about these people other than the grant issue..back before christmas passed i recieved the c.c.s. merchant card and i went all out for it calling to activate it...but my account was withdrawn and not in good standing..it sounded like a little gangster 17 year old guy reading the terms of agreement that lasted an hour..and the verification thing..he seemed like it was his first or second day so i cut him some slack andf i doubt he even knew what was going on.
i was scammed by that one company..out of las vegas same adress..i then read a million reports on this site about the different aliases they adopt..and i also think for every alias it is the same company.
i think they are paying the indians..outsourcing..to keep the scam going..i think it is all the same f****t a*s people in vegas that scammed me..with their 80 bling bling cars..well i only came to this conclusion after i put it all together.
i hope everyone is catching on to all of this too..the sweepstakes thing is them too..i got a letter stating i won a half a million dollars..confidential!..tell no one..send processing fee to las vegas..man f*** a las vegas..i hate las vegas after these fags on w.sahara blvd keep finding ways and different groups to get our money..
yes they call people in dire need of money..yes they know whats going on ..despite the fact they are all the way in india..if they didnt know what was going on then they wouldnt hang up on you after refusing to give them banking info..ect.
im just stating here that i think ive realized..the assholes in las vegas are behind all three-eight scams and organizations...if it says first national in it..its bullshit...other than that its consumer credit services..first national health benefits..first national government grants..grants4u..the sweepstakes scheme..
just remember they are paying other companies by outsourcing and its really them behind the whole thing..i thank rip off report for helping me come to my conclusions..hopefully while they are calling everyone today people google this s**t and find my report..
sorry to everyone who has been scammed by these fags in disguise..they are just too lazy to get a real job and they hang up on you when being called out upon..because they are pissed because they cant meet their quota for that day and their pay will be knocked or they will get let go..
haha good for them you can keep them from getting anywhere by hanging up on them or heckling them ..play around with their heads..piss them off..they play emotional games with everyone here..why not f*** with them for a little while..
right now i want to go to las vegas and beat the s**t out of those fags with the bling bling..with their stinky a*s dicks..oh and im gonna find the report i read a long time ago about the c.c.s merchant card where some one knew their personal info and everything they drove around ..buying s**t with the money they scammed us out of..
i will repost this info as soon as i track it down so we can terrorize those f*g bombs..im tired of them keeping their operations going under different company names and now they are using f***ing foreigners to do it..not like the indian assholes aint in on it..
supposedly when you agree to the 29.99 for thr grant youve also agreed to some package bullshit that has to do with a vacation and phone service..well thats them outsourcing again..hence the added 299.99 debit form your account..they are making money in so many different ways that it isnt even funny.
i know we are all tired of this s**t so remember the main culprit is those assholes in las vegas ..thanks again for reading and i hope they choke on a bag of a thousand dicks..
Jennifer Many, Louisiana
EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!
HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:
Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.
According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.
If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.
Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!
DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!
Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.
And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.
Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.
If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.
CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD
If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.
Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.
And good luck Let us know how you do!
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This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/12/2005 01:44 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/First-NationalGrants/nationwide/First-NationalGrants-ccs-cca-first-National-Health-Benefits-titan-first-National-Cons-142494. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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