- Report: #890639
Complaint Review: Full Moon Farms Wolfdog Sanctuary
| Full Moon Farms Wolfdog Sanctuary 39 Full moon trail
Black Mountain, North Carolina United States of America |
|
Full Moon Farms Wolfdog Sanctuary Animal abuse scam Black Mountain, North Carolina
*Consumer Comment: Buncombe County Sheriff and AC & Black Mtn.Police Departments in Nancy's Pocket.
*Consumer Comment: WOW!
*Consumer Comment: Think those of us who think comments about Full Moon Farms
*Consumer Comment: Michele S.----You are just as bad if not worse !
*General Comment: Goodbye and Good Ridance
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE...Michele(Nancy) & Trey
*Consumer Comment: Wolfdog People Beware - Agree + More
*Consumer Comment: Look forward to that day
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE..Refuge Ridge
*General Comment: Wolfdog People Beware
*Consumer Comment: Words are more dangerous often than physical violence
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE.. Wolfdog rescue
*Consumer Comment: Please James stay where you are
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE..Michele
*General Comment: Here's the Problem James
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE.. Wolfdog rescue
*General Comment: Here's the Problem James
*Consumer Comment: Please stop these attacks
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE..Michele
*General Comment: Tragic and Heart-Breaking
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE...
*Consumer Comment: To those who are attacking Full Moon Farms
*General Comment: James and N. Rogers ATTN
*Consumer Comment: Wolflover
*Consumer Comment: Sad and Dangerous Response
*Consumer Comment: Sad and disgusting
*Consumer Comment: Seriously?
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE...
*Consumer Comment: Ouestions that need to be answered
*Consumer Comment: Re: Karen
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re..Karen
*General Comment: Reply to James
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE: Michele
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re...
*General Comment: Appreciate Nancy and FMF
*General Comment: A Question of Credibility
*General Comment: Wolfdogs come before your personal problems
*General Comment: Avoiding the question doesn't help at all.
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Placements and Adoptions
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE...
*Consumer Comment: The truth is
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re..Michele or Nancy..???
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Iceman
*General Comment: The Bottom Line ,again
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Wonderful in what way?
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: reputations
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: who?
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re... Jerry
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Not so
*General Comment: full moon farm
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: walk in our shoes
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re...
*Consumer Comment: Bottom line?
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE..WoW !!
*Consumer Comment: Re:Full Moon Farm Receive Excellent Health Care
*General Comment: Full Moon Farm Receive Excellent Health Care
*Consumer Comment: Praying for Nancy and the animals at Full Moon Farm
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re..Michele
*General Comment: A Wonderful Sanctuary is Being Attacked
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re: TO: Alleged Former Volunteer
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re: TO: Alleged Former Volunteer
*General Comment: TO: Alleged Former Volunteer
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Former Volunteer
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE: LOL....
*General Comment: Angry Man
*UPDATE Employee: Re: Cheryl and wolfie....
*UPDATE Employee: Re..wolfie and cheryl
*UPDATE Employee: my nose smells.... personal vandetta
*General Comment: You've Lost
*UPDATE Employee: RE: Cheryl B
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: ?? REALLY james ??
*Consumer Comment: Libel & Slander
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re...
*Consumer Comment: Shame on all of you for the slandering of this rescue
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re...donations
*Consumer Comment: Donations
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE..WoW !!
*Consumer Comment: Expecting perfection by a human's standards?
*Consumer Comment: Ouch
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Dirty rider....
*Consumer Comment: Re: Of Course
*Consumer Comment: Howlin
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Of course...
*Consumer Comment: My observations at Howl In yesterday
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Fuzzy godmother..!!!
*Consumer Comment: You have no idea
*General Comment: Not easy running a rescue
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Character Assassination
*Consumer Comment: If this is true!
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Via former employee member of the board
*General Comment: I see Personal Vendetta
*Consumer Comment: Are you serious?
*Consumer Comment: Re: Character assasination
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Character Assassination
*Consumer Comment: Re: Character assasination
*Consumer Comment: Birds of a feather "Kat"
*Consumer Comment: I call BS
*Consumer Comment: Character Assassination
*General Comment: understanding
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Kat....
*Consumer Suggestion: Nothing ventured nothing gained
*General Comment: This is a Personal Vendetta
*General Comment: Utter Nonsense
*Consumer Comment: Disagree
*General Comment: My interaction with FMF
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: No Shame On You
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Sue and Vickie
*Consumer Comment: Full moon is A Wonderful place
*Consumer Comment: A regular FMF visitor responds...
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The Truth About Full Moon Farm
*Author of original report: Statement from another person from Full Moon Farm
Does your business have a bad reputation?
Fix it the right way.
Corporate Advocacy Program™
Ms. Brown is the only one caring for all of these animals. All of her volunteers have left. Ms Brown endangers the public every time she brings these animals out for a "petting zoo" and there has already been several bite reports.
Ms Brown solicits donations for the care of the animals but this money does not got to the animals but directly into her personal bank account. Many donors have never gotten requested receipts.
Ms. Brown runs this sanctuary unlicensed by any government agency (USDA DOA ) there is no oversite on the health and safety of this facility.
My group is contacting every animal organization we can to try and get the animals removed from this terrible situation. We are reporting her here so that the world can know what really goes on behind the gates at full moon farm
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/30/2012 02:16 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Full-Moon-Farms-Wolfdog-Sanctuary/Black-Mountain-North-Carolina-28711/Full-Moon-Farms-Wolfdog-Sanctuary-Animal-abuse-scam-Black-Mountain-North-Carolina-890639. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report.
Click Here to read other Ripoff Reports on Full Moon Farms Wolfdog Sanctuary
If you would like to see more Rip-off Reports on this company/individual, search here:
Search Tips#1 Consumer Comment
Buncombe County Sheriff and AC & Black Mtn.Police Departments in Nancy's Pocket.
AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 21, 2012
WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU NEWS WHICH IN ITS SELF YOU WOULD BE UNAWARE OF.
WE HAVE LEARNED THAT NANCY BROWN DOES HAVE THE ABOVE POLICE AND SHERIFF DEPARTMENTS RELAYING COMPLAINTS AND PEOPLE'S NAMES TO HER. DO NOT FILE COMPLAINTS WITH BCSD AND BMPD. FORWARD ANY COMPLAINTS TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND ADA. **"We don't forgive, We don't forget, United as one, Divided by zero, Expect us.! HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND!
#3 Consumer Comment
Think those of us who think comments about Full Moon Farms
AUTHOR: Refuge Ridge - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 05, 2012
#4 Consumer Comment
Michele S.----You are just as bad if not worse !
AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 05, 2012
#5 General Comment
Goodbye and Good Ridance
AUTHOR: Michele - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 03, 2012
#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds
RE...Michele(Nancy) & Trey
AUTHOR: James - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, September 02, 2012
#7 Consumer Comment
Wolfdog People Beware - Agree + More
AUTHOR: wolflover2 - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, September 02, 2012
#8 Consumer Comment
Look forward to that day
AUTHOR: Refuge Ridge - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, September 01, 2012
Sincerely,
Marty @ Refuge Ridge
#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds
RE..Refuge Ridge
AUTHOR: James - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, September 01, 2012
#10 General Comment
Wolfdog People Beware
AUTHOR: Michele - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, September 01, 2012
As an employee, he is unprofessional, disrespectful, untrustworthy and self-serving -- almost to the point of psychopathy. In order to achieve his objectives, there is no line he will not cross -- legal, moral or otherwise. He has little regard for the well-being of those in his care and has proven to be compulsive liar as well as a thief. [His criminal record is extensive and should be examined very carefully by anyone considering him as a potential employee.]
His attacks on Full Moon Farm are vicious, recklessly irresponsible and completely unsubstantiated. In these reports, he has been asked many times to explain his motives for attacking his former employer, Nancy Brown, a devoted and reputable wolfdog rescuer who has saved hundreds of wolfdogs from unspeakable abuse and neglect since founding Full Moon Farm. In every instance, James has consistently refused to provide any justification or proof for his attacks. Instead, he berates and belittles all those who ask for clarification or questioned him in any way.
His actions do not support his claims to care about the well-being of wolfdogs. Even though he has been told not to slander Nancy Brown or undermine her rescue efforts for the sake of the animals, he persists without a thought for what might happen to the current canine residents of FMF should his efforts to close down their sanctuary succeed. He doesn't have the resources to provide any of them with better homes or any homes at all for that matter. This doesn't appear to concern him much, but it does concerns all of those who sincerely care for these vulnerable animals.
Thanks to his vitriolic and ill-considered attacks in these reports, James is finally acquiring a well-deserved reputation as a trouble-maker. His acerbic responses to those who are sincerely concerned with the welfare of the animals living at FMF and who question the accuracy of his attacks in these reports, stand for themselves.
In conclusion, James should not be allowed to have anything more to do with wolfdog rescue. The animals we love are already very vulnerable due to the ignorance of the many people who don't know what wonderful creatures they are and who fear them. As a community, we must do all we can to protect them and those, like Nancy Brown, who continue to do their best to rescue them.
#11 Consumer Comment
Words are more dangerous often than physical violence
AUTHOR: Refuge Ridge - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, September 01, 2012
#12 UPDATE EX-employee responds
RE.. Wolfdog rescue
AUTHOR: James - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
And if I knew who you were then I would gladly steer clear of your rescue and stay away from you.!! BTW..when my rescue and sanctuary is up and running, I will show you and others what a true sanctuary is all about my friend. !! PS...If your not willing to find out the truth, it's best you say nothing at all...kinda looks like a vendetta against me..!!!
#13 Consumer Comment
Please James stay where you are
AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
#14 UPDATE EX-employee responds
RE..Michele
AUTHOR: James - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
#15 General Comment
Here's the Problem James
AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
Nancy Brown fired you because she didn't think you were doing an adequate job. It's understandable that you left with a chip on your shoulder. You have a clear motive for lashing out at her. Unless you can demonstrate that you have good reasons for attacking Full Moon Farm, there is no reason for anyone to believe your attacks are anything but a personal vendetta.
This, coupled with your reluctance to divulge your side of the story, is probably why 90% of those who read these reports are indicating that your submissions lack credibility.
PLEASE CLARIFY YOUR SIDE: The best way for you to earn credibility is to present your side clearly and unambiguously. This is the only way those reading these reports can judge for themselves whether or not your stated desire to close down a badly needed wolfdog rescue facility with an excellent reputation is justified or not.
If you have the integrity to present your position, I (and probably others) will give you my full attention. If your side of the story is reasonable, I (and many others who have been defending Nancy Brown) may finally understand your point of view.
If you don't present your side of the story, how can you continue to berate and belittle those of us who question your attacks on, what we believe to be, a valuable resource for wolfdogs?
#16 UPDATE EX-employee responds
RE.. Wolfdog rescue
AUTHOR: James - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
#17 General Comment
Here's the Problem James
AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
Nancy Brown fired you because she didn't think you were doing an adequate job. It's understandable that you left with a chip on your shoulder. You have a clear motive for lashing out at her. Unless you can demonstrate that you have good reasons for attacking Full Moon Farm, there is no reason for anyone to believe your attacks are anything but a personal vendetta.
This, coupled with your reluctance to divulge your side of the story, is probably why 90% of those who read these reports are indicating that your submissions lack credibility.
PLEASE CLARIFY YOUR SIDE: The best way for you to earn credibility is to present your side clearly and unambiguously. This is the only way those reading these reports can judge for themselves whether or not your stated desire to close down a badly needed wolfdog rescue facility with an excellent reputation is justified or not.
If you have the integrity to present your position, I (and probably others) will give you my full attention. If your side of the story is reasonable, I (and many others who have been defending Nancy Brown) may finally understand your point of view.
If you don't present your side of the story, how can you continue to berate and belittle those of us who question your attacks on, what we believe to be, a valuable resource for wolfdogs?
#18 Consumer Comment
Please stop these attacks
AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
Your writings have made me wary of each of you-I have to question your intentions. That also is sad because I have until the last year or so been very open to having volunteers. You have validated my decision to concentrate on education instead of rescue. The animals I have will live with me until they transition. I dare say I am not the only person you have convinced there is too much potential for unfounded attacks.
I would also think that any refuge any of you have visited will be wary of you after all of this.
#19 UPDATE EX-employee responds
RE..Michele
AUTHOR: James - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
#20 General Comment
Tragic and Heart-Breaking
AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
The saddest consequence of the misguided attacks on FMF is that wolfdogs will lose a valuable asset and more will suffer and die without hope because there are not enough wolfdog rescues by far. The good ones, like Full Moon Farm, with proven track records, are so desperately needed. Anyone who has seen an abused or abandoned wolfdog arriving at FMF are filled to overflowing with gratitude for Nancy's sincere devotion and hard work.
Nancy's attackers are so driven by hurt feelings and wild emotions that they have not taken a moment to realize that if Full Moon Farm gets closed down, close to 80 wolfdogs will be made homeless and all or most will be euthanized.
This entire scandal is a tragedy for wolfdog owners like me who have had nothing but positive encounters with Nancy Brown. I have visited Full Moon Farm many times and I never saw a lack of clean water and good quality food. No reasonable person can deny that Nancy is passionate about wolfdog rescue and that she has devoted her entire life to the effort.
Bottom Line: Wolfdogs will suffer as a direct consequence of these irresponsible attacks. As a wolfdog owner, this is one of the saddest things I have witnessed for the wolfdog community. I wish there was more I could do to save the residents of Full Moon Farm from these reckless attackers.
#22 Consumer Comment
To those who are attacking Full Moon Farms
AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, August 30, 2012
#23 General Comment
James and N. Rogers ATTN
AUTHOR: Karen - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, August 30, 2012
Secondly - I never threatened anyone nor will I do so. At 70 I don't have a lot of patience for stupidity which the accusation stated I had done. Nothing even close to threatening. I have had it with all this nonsense. I have known Nancy for many years and both of you appear to me to be troublemakers.
#25 Consumer Comment
Sad and Dangerous Response
AUTHOR: wolflover2 - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, August 30, 2012
#26 Consumer Comment
Sad and disgusting
AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, August 30, 2012
#27 Consumer Comment
Seriously?
AUTHOR: Dirt Bike Rider - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
We do want to know the truth that's why we are asking. And as far as drama goes, James it seems by all these posts that you Thrive on it.
The lives of these animals are at stake, you have so much to say, but can't tell us what plan you have for these innocent lives?
#28 UPDATE EX-employee responds
RE...
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
#29 Consumer Comment
Ouestions that need to be answered
AUTHOR: Dirt Bike Rider - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
If you both have so much evidence then why didn't you both not go to the proper authorities and let them handle it???
Making public statements like this shows a personal vendetta, plain and simple. If you truly cared about those animals you would not have done this. You would have handled it differently, and let the authorities do their thing.
You have put the lives and the home of 74 wolfdogs danger.
So here's another question.
What plans do you have for the wolfdogs, once you get it shut down?
Name the Sanctuary's that are going to take them in. "We" the public want to know.
Like I said my family and I have been there, and we saw nothing wrong, and I would hate to think that those beautiful animals will loose their homes and maybe face the threat euthanasia because of this whole fiasco.
I'm sure FMF has already lost much needed donations because of this. I can't imagine what kind of money it takes to operate a Sanctuary of that size, much less the stress of these kind of accusations. You both can sit here and deny it all you want, but this is WRONG! And is not helping the animals a one bit! So answer the questions, and let us know your plan.
#30 Consumer Comment
Re: Karen
AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
NANCY, all of your comments are coming from the same ISP and have been tracked, so these threats are being turned over to the proper authorities. Good day Madam!
#31 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Re..Karen
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
#32 General Comment
Reply to James
AUTHOR: Karen - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
#33 UPDATE EX-employee responds
RE: Michele
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
My Leaving...read from the bottom email to top!! Hello All. I just wanted to say what a pleasure it was to get to know each and every one of you. I will keep this short for obvious reasons.. Me and Lisa will be leaving tomorrow for good,after we do our chores and say our goodbyes to the wolfers we will be headed out. We love each and every one of you and will miss you...Thank You for everything!! Many blessings,
James&Lisa
From: "jameslandreth
To: Nancy Browne
Cc: Sharon Greene
Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 10:42:22 PM
Subject: Re: Things
I will know better in the next few days.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: "Nancy Brown"
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:40:33
To: <jameslandreth95@yahoo.com>
Cc: Sharon Greene; Jay Alcombright; Allison Frady; Mish Frankl; Sarah Hallback, Pam and Dave Michael Kim Tulloss-Smith
Subject: Re: Things
Effective date?
--------------------------------------------------
From: <jameslandreth95@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:19 PM
To: "Nancy Brown"
Cc: "Sharon Greene" ; "Jay Alcombright"
; "Allison Frady" ;
"Mish Frankl" ; "Sarah Hallback" ; "Pam and Dave Michael" ; "Kim
Tulloss-Smith"
Subject: Re: Things
> Dear Nancy and everyone here...It has taken me a few day's to write this, I love the animals and you all so much and I thank each of you for all you have given me and Lisa..with that said I resign as caretaker with the deepest regret and sadness. Thank You All,
> James
> ------Original Message------
> To: Nancy Brown
>
> Subject: Re: Things
> Sent: Jun 25, 2011 9:53 AM
>
> Nancy...I wish that you would have sat and talked this out before this post. James
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Nancy Brown
> To: jameslandreth
>
> Subject: Things
> Sent: Jun 25, 2011 5:35 AM
>
> June 25, 2011 Dear James, It has become apparent that your time with Full Moon Farm is coming to an end. I have several requests of you: 1.) Be professional. Enough of the Facebook posting. Every negative thing you post affects the dogs. If it is about the dogs, then make it so. 2.) Advise me of the times you will be away from the property, the needs of the animals, and your estimated date of departure. 3.) Continue to perform your duties until your replacement can be found and trained. It is my understanding that you are making arrangements to leave already. 4.) Full Moon Farm has been an incorporated business since 2002. We will continue on. I am most appreciative of your service for the past 10 months, and only wish you well. As life goes on, we all know that people and things change. I harbor no ill feelings, and wish you the best of
> life in your next adventure. In gratitude, and in Peace. ~Nancy
And the last email from volunteers to me and others..If I was doing such a bad job why would they write this Michele..?? Another email James TO:Kim Message flaggedThursday, June 30, 2011 8:37 PM Thank You so much for your kind words Kim..We will miss the Farm but not the crap that comes with it!!! I think that we will be searching other Rescues and Sanctuaries to give our time and talents too. It is very sad that one person can hurt and degrade others to the point they want to give up or leave! It breaks my heart that these innocent animals have to suffer through all this..It just isn't right!!! We will be around if you ever need us and we will not be strangers, Thank You Kim.. Many blessings ..:D From: KimTo:Sent: Wed, June 29, 2011 9:19:46 PMSubject: James leaving!? Hey guys.. just thought I would give a 'what the hell' out to you about James and Lisa leaving as caretakers. I know we have all been 'here' numerous times although this might be one of the first for Jay. I have not even called Nancy about this whole situation because I have come to feel so defeated when it applies to the Farm and people/ideas that have big ways of 'creating a business, getting all these animals into humane enclosures, working with socialization, adopting out very adoptable animals and so forth'. Have you noticed I did not include Nancy in on this email because well I would surely get banned and railed publicly and not feeling that aggro vibe in my Life. I think Dean and Ryan took sensible steps back out of frustration and lack of creating a big difference because of Nancy. She is truly her own worse enemy and completely self-sabotaging as a likable human, rescuer and business owner. A little heads up. since the spring, Nancy has been talking to selected friends about shutting down FMF in Oct/Nov if 'things' do not improve. She has not said this to me personally because I do not call her anymore. I cannot hear the same crying, crispy story she has over and over. I will say here and on record what Sarah H. told me, James, Lisa and Sarah's girlfriend(Jess) this past Monday June 27,2011 when talking about this subject. I asked Sarah what in the world would nancy do with all 80 some dogs if she shuts down?? She told me that she has asked Nancy that same question and that one of Nancy's response is that she would 'put down' the older wolfdogs. This is when Sarah told us "this is when you see me putting more posts about donations, events to donate". Well, I wanted to vomit hearing this. Should we take this as just Nancy running her mouth or serious? Sarah also included that if we asked Nancy about this 'remark' then Nancy would deny it. I am not including Sarah in this email because I do not truly know where she stands in regard to Nancy. although listening to her on Monday she will share what the two of them have talked about. I will stand by this statement though because I feel that as an incredible hypocritical, self serving, demented attitude to her 'rescue animals.' With that said, here we go with 'another caretaker that Nancy will micro manage and run into the ground or submission'. in no way do I feel that she has the best interest of the dogs or people involved. Heard nasty little stories about how she was willing to let you go Sharon after that whole Alison F. ordeal(via Sarah H.). After 3 years volunteering I am shocked FMF has lasted as long as it has....she truly has a difficult and dysfuntional time dealing with people. If it comes to me telling this all to Nancy I WILL but hope this will be in confidentiality. I truly care about sooooo many of the animals out there. I also want to be present if 'the shit hits the fan' and she is eauthanizing animals and dispersing the rest to rally for their defense. Even though I talked personally with today James, I wanted to say THANK YOU again for giving the last year of your Life to FMF. I believe you had the wolfdogs best interest in your heart at all times and your vision for their better livelihood is inspiring. You could not have been a better caretaker and any rescue organization will be so fortunate to have your love, dedication and work ethic:) I look forward to seeing you volunteering at FMF, hopefully for many years to come my friend! Much love and respect. Kim End the lies and false accusations Nancy,we know the truth!
#34 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Re...
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
#35 General Comment
Appreciate Nancy and FMF
AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
I want to send Nancy my encouragement. No one gets into WD rescue for ego or gain but simply for love of the animals. I hope this does not close a facility that has a good reputation with other wolf dog rescues. Surely everyone can work together out of love for the animals. Otherwise these animals will pay the ultimate price.
Sincerely,
Marty W.
#36 General Comment
A Question of Credibility
AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
The emotionally-charged attacks by an angry and disgruntled ex-employee (who was asked to leave for not providing adequate care for the wolfdogs at FMF) lack all credibility. Unlike Nancy Brown, he, and those defending him, are not able to provide any homes for wolfdogs in need. In spite of it, they are attempting to destroy FMF knowing full well that by doing so they are risking the lives of the animals they claim to care about. If they succeed, at least 70 wolfdogs will be made homeless and euthanized.
The wolfdog community considers FMF to be a significant and much needed asset. We are distressed that a handful of vengeful people -- oblivious of the harmful consequences their personal vendetta might engender for the canine residents of the sanctuary -- are slandering this warm and loving wolfdog haven to advance their cynical and destructive agendas. We, who know FMF, can not allow this to happen. We owe it to the dogs we love and care for.
#37 General Comment
Wolfdogs come before your personal problems
AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
Full Moon Farm has rescued over 500 wolfdogs from unspeakable abuse and neglect. More are in need of rescue every day.
Full Moon Farm has an excellent reputation amongst wolfdog owners and lovers. It is very badly needed.
The people who have initiated these slanderous reports do NOT have the resources, motivation and devotion required to rescue and care for wolfdogs now suffering and in need of rescue. The fact that they are determined to destroy a reputable wolfdog sanctuary without being able to provide better (or any) homes for the wolfdogs currently in residence, makes it clear that these individuals are not in the slightest way motivated by a love of wolfdogs but rather by personal problems stemming from termination of employment for inadequate performance.
If you are attempting to destroy even a single wolfdog's home without having a better home ready and waiting for that animal, you are egregiously irresponsible and a threat to the wolfdog community.
#38 General Comment
Avoiding the question doesn't help at all.
AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
If you are trying to destroy a wolfdog sanctuary without being absolutely sure that you can and will provide all the animals currently in residence with better homes (or any homes at all), you are playing with the lives and well being of those wolfdogs. If you succeed, you know as well as anyone, that you will neither be able to provide better homes for those dogs or even any homes at all. Where will they go? Have you spent so much as a minute thinking about the consequences of your actions?
So tell us clearly and plainly:
What actions have you taken to insure that all of the wolfdogs currently residing at Full Moon Farm will have better homes than they do now if you succeed in destroying their sanctuary?
If you have a good answer to this question, if you have indeed made certain that all of the wolfdogs at FMA do have better homes waiting for them, then I apologize for criticizing you. If you have NOT, however, I think you are depraved individuals intent on destruction regardless of all the pain and suffering you will cause by your actions.
This is very serious. This hasn't been addressed by the disgruntled ex-employees in any way. They don't even seem worried about it. Their intensely emotionally fueled rampage could end in the deaths of close to 70 animals that will have NOWHERE to go if they are allowed to destroy Full Moon Farm.
As a wolfdog owner and lover of wolfdogs, I'm very concerned and distressed to discover that a few people who claim to be "in it for the animals" are, in reality, in it for vengance against an ex-employer who fired them for grossly inadequate care of the dogs in question. They have become so deluded by their emotions that they no longer care about the dire consequences their actions might have for the animals they claim to want to protect. As an owner, I know all too well that wolfdogs are in great need of sanctuaries like FMF that provide shelter, good food, good vet care and good socialization with volunteers who adore them.
FMF is being grossly misrepresented by people who haven't even thought about where the animals they claim to love will go if they succeed and their home is destroyed. This is irresponsible at best.
Fortunately, as all who come here can see for themselves, an overwhelming majority of the comments made by the ex-employee who was fired, and his cohorts, are all judged to be "unhelpful" by at least 90% of those who read them. Even though they are causing considerable distress for those of us who really do care about wolfdogs and who have benefited from Nancy Brown's expertise and devotion, I firmly believe that they represent an insignificant minority of people with first-hand experience of FMF, and that once their emotions cool off, they will fade away. No matter how vehement these few people are, the truth will prevail as it always does.
#39 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Placements and Adoptions
AUTHOR: Lynda - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
#40 UPDATE EX-employee responds
RE...
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 13, 2012
#41 Consumer Comment
The truth is
AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 13, 2012
#42 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Re..Michele or Nancy..???
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 13, 2012
I can tell you that he loves his breakfast! I don't interrupt him when he is enjoying his food. I do come back later to clean the poop up and spend time rubbing his head and under his chin. He would just lean on me and I swear he smiles.
I noticed what appeared to be a stye forming and documented it not only on the daily checksheet but mentioned it to Nancy. He was never taken to the vet and that growth now covers most of the top lid.
Tumors don't just disappear. In my year there I never met Dr Bev. If he is tumor free then we were lied to. He still has the growth on his eyelid. If he has been examined and found tumor free I am ecstatic for him; saddened by the socialization he has missed because Nancy told us he couldn't be touched; and why not end all the controversy and print out the vet report with Dr Bevs signature. It would be wonderful to see and would end all the doubt.
#44 General Comment
The Bottom Line ,again
AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 13, 2012
If you are able to provide better homes for the animals now living at FMF then maybe you're for real but if you are trying to destroy a wolfdog sanctuary without the ability to provide better homes for every one of the FMF dogs, you are NOT in it for the animals, you are threatening their very existence.
Everyone knows this. It is obvious and undeniable. End of story.
One more time: All of you hell bent on destroying a wolfdog sanctuary at a time when there are so few available and so many in dire need are behaving like psychopaths unless you are able to guarantee that all the animals now living at FMF will have better homes if you are successful. If you succeed in bringing down one of the few good sanctuaries available for these vulnerable animals and you have not found each and every one of the animals now at FMF better homes, you will be directly responsible for their deaths and your actions are irresponsible, immoral, selfish, criminal, cynical, dangerous and depraved. You know who you are and you know that what you are doing is threatening the lives of all the wolfdogs now at FMF as well as those who need to be removed from abusive situations and need a place to go right now.
The fact is that none of the disgruntled people striving to destroy this wolfdog sanctuary can provide the dogs currently at FMF with better homes. If they succeed, the animals will be euthanized (killed).
Unless you are able to provide the dogs at FMA with better homes, trying to destroy the only home these animals have is criminal, psychopathic, selfish, depraved, immoral, irresponsible, irrational and murderous. Shame on you liars and haters. Provide these wonderful dogs with better homes or gtfo.
#45 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wonderful in what way?
AUTHOR: Lynda - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 13, 2012
This is not a personal vendetta. What is there to gain? Money spent is money gone-so there is not a monetary pay off. Nobody I know wants to live there or really have the responsibility if something goes wrong-and in our world something always goes wrong. So no gain there. Vendettas have a pay off. There is no pay off here, so lets move on.
We speak of Nancy because she is the president of a failing company. This is the fourth board that I am aware of that Nancy has asked to bring Full Moon Farm into being as a successful business as she states repeatedly she has no sense for business. Her own children withdrew from a previous board, We worked hard and had viable solutions and in the end, Nancy would not let the changes be implemented. It is HER sanctuary and she fears anyone taking anything that belongs to HER. She does have a narcissistic personality so I understand that this is part and parcel of the continued failure of a self sustaining sanctuary. Her basic personality disorder is a big issue in the failure of Full Moon to move forward.
First of all, the land is not hers. It is a matter of public record who the land belongs to. There are serious financial infractions in violation of federal law and the way it is set up she will not bear the brunt of these punishments, her board and volunteers will. Nancy is not stupid. There is a reason behind almost everything she does. In fact, the IRS will be investigating the lack of documentation of all donations.Even the $200.00 I gave her for the purchase of board insurance that has not been purchased, and the money not returned is a violation. I had given my word for that amount; I kept my word.
Federal Law states very clearly that any money donated to a 501(c)3 non profit for a specific purpose MUST be used for that purpose. All money taken in for sponsorships must be used for that animal. All money given for spay and neuters must be used for that purpose. This is not happening. We don't know where the money goes and an audit is going to be demanded.
At no time is the president of a foundation or incorporation to handle the money; that is the treasurer's job. There are no checks and balances here ;Nancy pockets a great deal of money and lives very well. At NO time during my tenure as treasurer did I see a finacial statement. The only time I handled any cash from a howl in, I counted it, had it recounted by another, and we both signed our name to the amounts we totaled. They were in agreement. Then it was turned over to Nancy. From there? I cannot give you an answer.
The sticking point with those of us who have resigned is the total lack of vet care. The vet she says she uses is not going to back what she says. She will not lose her license over Nancy and the claims she has made. By the time Nancy takes an animal to the vet, they do not come back alive. They are not checked for heartworm, they are not examined on intake nor are the quarantined; resulting in the spread of bordatella from an animal we were told when we took her was animal aggressive. This animal has all ready attacked and injured another animal.
Bites that happen are not reported. I have a problem with this. It is the law. Not only is this a danger to the people getting bitten but the person bitten is told by Nancy to break the law by saying "If you go to the Doctor, say this happened at home." Many of our animals are biters, are on exhibition, and have lost their bite inhibition. Many, including our ambassador animal are not fond of children, and is food aggressive to the point where he drew blood on his pen mate's neck in not one but two attacks. Had Nathaniel not moved so quickly and had he not had backup, (I was really frightened) River would have killed Guinivere.
We do have a hoarding issue here as well. We have tried to get Nancy to adopt out the dogs, and there are dogs there and she won't. I myself have offered to take four, have the land to keep them and have been doing this since 2005. She trusted me to care for the animals but would not let any of the long term volunteers adopt. One of our main goals was to reduce the number of animals so that the remaining ones would have more. I understand that ten are now gone. Good. It's a start.
Nancy does not spend much time with the animals. She generally shows up after we have finished a full days work with a list of things she wants done yesterday. I rarely saw her interact with an animal unless there was a tour or event or Howl In. When issues with an animal are reported, they are generally ignored, and this too concerns us as she is the only one she allows to make decsions. There is no delegation of authority, no back up plans if something were to happen to her, or updated examinations.
People keep saying this is a vendetta. You need to examine the meaning of the word. It means to attack and harm a person. What we are after is reduced numbers of animals, the deletion of all 10x10 enclosures; especially the ones that stand in water, responsible book keeping, not breaking the law, truth in all things, and first and foremost better care for the animals. I can see where you might think this is a vendetta since Nancy is the only one who can change these things.
I have also defended the farm. I have never seen any moldy food being given to the animals. Nancy is a stickler for cleaning water buckets with every fill and they are bleached once a month at the least. Do I think that's enough? No. I have seen raw food fed twice. We had to get it out of the pens after two days, wash it off and cut it into smaller pieces. Is this is problem? Frankly I don't think so. Animals in the wild eat rotten meat. A kill may be eaten for a week after the kill. Do I think we feed enough raw? No. The higher the content the more meat should be fed. That depends on the availability of the meat though. Nancy fed the best dry food she could afford. Could we have done better? I do believe so if a budget had been set, and the number of animals reduced.
The volunteers I worked with I loved. I miss them very much. It is hard work, no doubt about it. We worked together, argued together, laughed together and every one of us loved the animals. You don't do this kind of work if you don't. To have as many volunteers walk off at one time you must ask yourself why this happened? What hasn't been said, is that for the entire week after all of these volunteers walked off the mountain, or were told to "pack their shit and go" they came back everyday and still fed, watered, cut grass, cleaned enclosures and not once were they told thank-you. In fact none of us ever were. Lots of criticism, name calling, yelling at us; but good job or thank you? No, seldom if ever.
There are animals there that are so low or no content that they could be house pets. Why not set up adoption procedures and give these animals a forever home? There are several people involved with the Farm that have their own wolf dogs. Why not let them adopt when they have requested to? This is where the lack of adoption procedures and the hoarding factor comes in.
We have done our best to improve the Farm. My question is this. If Nancy truly had the best interest of these animals at heart, admits she has no head for business, had a good working board, would she not turn the presidency over to someone who could handle the business end, make the hard decisions, and let her remain on the board in another capacity? Why not Vice-President? She would have a vote in what happened there and she would be off the hook for the business decisions. She cannot change the person she is, and we cannot allow ourselves to look the other way; not because we hate Nancy, but because we love the animals.
I am not sure how all of this went viral. It is certainly uncomfortable for me; I hate confrontation. That doesn't mean I don't stand my ground, it just means I feel like throwing up when I do. I have a high standard I hold myself to, honesty, integrity, promises made-promises kept. I tend to expect the same out of others. When it is very clear that I am lied to, I lose respect. I dont get angry because I understand that without fail when you get angry, it's because you are hurt. Deal with the hurt and the anger takes care of itself. So your word "Vendetta" is not in my vocabulary for people-although I do have a vendetta against electronic things I can't figure out.
I have asked people to stop donating money; but to donate food and supplies. My hope is that this keeps the animals well, the farm improving, but Nancy not having unlimited control over cash. I hear she has a CPA now, and I am thrilled! Nobody wants the animals hurt or the farm closed. Those of us who chose to take a stand didn't do so out of hate, but concern and love for the animals.
Let's not make this worse than it all ready is. Facts are facts-we do not need to gossip monger. Are we all not working towards a common goal?
OK-off my soapbox for now.
Blessed Be.
#46 UPDATE EX-employee responds
reputations
AUTHOR: Lynda - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 12, 2012
#48 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Re... Jerry
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 12, 2012
The animals are priority one and we will see to it they are properly cared for..Thank you for your comment, it was enlightening..!!!
One escapee was shot.
She has tried to euthanize, but let that animal suffer all night with an improper doseage of Ketamine.
She does not vaccinate the animals.
She does not report animal bites.
She does not do the hands on care.
The arrival time of Nancy at the farm is far after the chores are finished.
She doesn't just not vet the animals, she refuses to vet the animals and waits for an animal communicator to tell her it's time to take them.
The only interaction Nancy has with "HER" animals is when it is in public and makes her look good.
There are more animals there that would like to eat her than not.
#50 General Comment
full moon farm
AUTHOR: Jerry C - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 12, 2012
A lot of her animals are old, mean, or sick, but not because of anything she did. She doesn't just kill them on the spot like your tax supported shelters. She (and all the volunteers) i have met, give them as much care, compassion, company, dignity and love as each will accept. Remember, these aren't poodles , they're wolfdogs, the craziest, and most intelligent animal on the face of the earth. No one wants to deal with them (like your parents who some of you stuff in a rest home to keep them out of sight) No you didn't breed them, but we are all responsible for them, just like air pollution and garbage. We need to deal with it. Many improvements are underway now, Including a water project, driveway and stream repairs, larger and better enclosures, and gravel paths. I will be there most of next week and need help doing ANYTHING, even just watching me in case I get hurt on some of the machinery.
Remember, IT AIN'T ABOUT YOU.....most people have their own little agenda, and it's all about them only. That's why I gave up on people a few years ago and prefer the wolves. Ice man is OLD, not sick and mangy. He can crush 2 inch bones, and if you go to facebook, you can see him wallowing my ass on the ground. And James....I only met you once and I knew you were a loser then. If you'd keep your mouth shut, and your pants zipped, It would be a better world.
#51 UPDATE EX-employee responds
walk in our shoes
AUTHOR: Lynda - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 17, 2012
Ms Brown has several faces and the only one that isn't abusive and crying hysterically half the time is the one you see when she is the center of attention; and she does love that.
In the end, Ms Brown is a hoarder of animals to feed her ego. The animals are the ones I am concerned with. Let the government take care of her.
There have been three boards try to make this work by limiting the number of animals taken in; and having them vetted first. Regardless of what you have heard, we have seen the condition of the animals when it isn't show time. I wouldn't put an eight pound poodle in half of the enclosures. I have never met the vet, but she prescibes without examination for both the dogs and Nancy.
One must think quality over quantity. The sheer numbers demand neglect as daily chores take up the majority of every day. Don't think Nancy participates in this either. She shows after the work has been done with a million excuses as to why she wasn't there. She ignores the daily worksheets that define problems, and waits until it's too late to do anything to take action. We all knew when she would finally take an animal to the vet, it wouldn't come back alive. Keep in mind documentation was made and ignored.
An organization fails from the top down, not the bottom up. She won't step down as this is her ocd-the only thing she derives any money from, not because she cares about the animals.
As with any "production" what you see on stage is far from the scene behind the curtains.
#52 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Re...
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 16, 2012
#53 Consumer Comment
Bottom line?
AUTHOR: Sue - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 16, 2012
It seems like folks keep missing some really obvious stuff. (?)
If the James version of "the animals being taken care of" means that their only safe haven is shut down out of spite, and they are all put to death...how is it possible to spin that into "I'm in it for the animals"? That's such an empty, meaningless phrase when used with malicious intent...as seems to be the case more and more often these days. :-/
Also, you asked "if the animals are well cared for, why are they dying of cancer/tumors or bloat?" and I'm not sure what's so hard to grasp about that. When animals (or people!) die, they have to die from SOMETHING. Usually, cancer is what gets them when they've lived long enough, and been cared for well enough, that they don't *die of something else*. How would YOU suggest that old dogs are prevented from dying of cancer? Or would you just kill them outright the day it's diagnosed--while they still have good quality of life? I still suspect that this is really where your whole uproar is coming from--that animals do get cancer and there's nothing you can do about it. It sucks but it's a part of life.
Even bloat is not something that suggests neglect; a lot of very well run facilities and conscientious private owners have had dogs die from bloat. It's a common killer for large, deep-chested dogs. (I've not had it happen myself, but have seen well-cared-for animals I knew personally who did.) There's no surefire way to avoid it other than pre-emptive gastropexy surgery, which carries its own risks. Again, it's horrible when it happens, but to imply that there's something wrong with the animal's care if it bloats demonstrates a lack of knowledge and experience on your part.
Granted, you've done a fair job of showing that some of the volunteers have had personal problems when it came to getting along with the sanctuary's owner. (Doesn't really surprise me, since most canine rescues and dog people in general tend to have the Type A/"alpha bitch" mentality. It's unfortunately tied to what makes them successful.) I just don't see that as enough reason to put all these animals at risk. I would argue that if you care about these dogs, it makes more sense to put ego and personal feelings aside, and try to SOLVE problems instead of creating new ones.
#54 UPDATE EX-employee responds
RE..WoW !!
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 16, 2012
#55 Consumer Comment
Re:Full Moon Farm Receive Excellent Health Care
AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 16, 2012
Go on, don't be afraid ask her....lets see if she tells the truth.
#56 General Comment
Full Moon Farm Receive Excellent Health Care
AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 16, 2012
I remember being perplexed when Nancy Brown hired James Landreth. He had previously worked as caretaker for a notorious back-yard breeder in South Carolina. The wolfdogs cared for by James Landreth there, were in horrendous condition. The abuse was so egregious that the breeder was forced to shut down. Thirty-eight wolfdogs, in extremely poor condition, were suddenly homeless. Nancy Brown took them all in. She saw animals in distress. She didn't turn any away. That's the kind of thing that has earned her the respect, admiration, and appreciation of the wolfdog rescue community.
Why Nancy hired a man responsible, in part, for the abusive neglect of wolfdogs in SC, is a mystery to me. I believe she made a big mistake by neglecting to do a criminal background check before hiring him and that this decision is now coming back to bite her.
After James Landreth was asked to leave, he began harassing Nancy Brown. It was easy to see that he had a big chip on his shoulder and wanted revenge. He didn't hide his hatred of Nancy Brown and many volunteers and visitors to Full Moom Farm, during his final weeks there, knew about it. Fortunately, for the canine residents of FMF, Nancy was able to find a good new caretaker right away.
The new, and latest caretaker Nancy Brown hired, an earnest, hard-working young man called Nathaniel, made noticeable improvments to the property - cleaning up neglected areas and repairing equipment. While he was there, the condition of the dogs' enclosures improved. As a volunteer, I saw how hard Nathanial worked and liked him very much. He made great efforts to befriend the wolfdogs and was learning a great deal from his position as caretaker. While under Nathaniel's care, I never saw a wolfdog without clean water and high-quality food. I was over-joyed that the wolfdogs at Full Moon Farm were being well cared for.
I don't know if James Landreth has ever met Nathaniel and I don't know how he is able to claim that the animals suffered in any way while Nathaniel was caretaker. He was no longer visiting the Farm after his termination. I don't know why James is accusing Nathaniel of neglecting to clean enclosures, feeding bad food and not providing fresh clean water. My experience of Nathaniel's work was the exact opposite to that described by James Landreth. It doesn't seem right to attack a young man like Nathaniel and I simply don't understand why this is taking place. It appears that he's doing wolfdogs a great disservice by attempting to undermine Nancy Brown's efforts and those of the other volunteers who are working with her to aide and protect wolfdogs.
The attacks on this website are irresponsible and unforgivable. They are jeopardizing the lives of the wolfdogs currently at FMF as well as uncountable others in dire need of sanctuary. Resolving personal problems with Nancy Brown in this fashion is terribly misguided and destructive. The vast majority of people acquainted with Nancy Brown and Full Moon Farm know very well that the content of these attacks are unfounded.
I would urge anyone not acquainted with Full Moon Farm to check out their website on Facebook and see for themselves how the canine residents there are doing. You will find countless beautiful photos of wolfdogs and volunteers enjoying one another's company, detailed and loving descritpions of all the residents and hundreds and thousands of positive reports by those who have visited Full Moon Farm.
Full Moon Farm is an invaluable asset to wolfdogs and is very much needed. Nancy Brown's sincere love of wolfdogs and her dedication to rescue are clear to all who know her or have ever visited this wonderful sanctuary.
#57 Consumer Comment
Praying for Nancy and the animals at Full Moon Farm
AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 15, 2012
#58 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Re..Michele
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 15, 2012
Go ask Nancy to show you the vet report and X-ray's showing Iceman is free of tumors and cancer..Then come back and tell me..!!! There is none or she would have already posted it..!!! You and everyone else can justify this by saying this is a vendetta and its hate....but I could care less about Nancy and my feelings toward her..its the animals that cannot tell you when they are sick or in pain and that is what we are here for..the animals only.!!!
When this all comes out and the truth is shown,are you still going to believe Nancy or all of you that sit there and make these comments going to help the animals...I bet none of you do cause this isn't about the animals for you!! I just hope all of you realize you cannot let problems and the health of animals go unreported no matter who the person is...!!! FOR THE ANIMALS...ALWAYS AND FOREVER.!!!
#59 General Comment
A Wonderful Sanctuary is Being Attacked
AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 15, 2012
Nancy Brown's entire life and all her energy and resources are, and always have been, devoted to caring for the wolfdogs at FMF. The animals are happy and good health. They are fed high-quality kibble daily as well as fresh meat several times a month and none ever go hungry. They always have clean water, clean enclosures with nice dog houses for shelter and the best veterinary care money can buy. [I take my pups to the same vet and she's intelligent, experienced and highly competent.]
Animals that come to FMF abused, sick and poorly socialized are healed physically and mentally under Nancy's care. It's amazes me to see scared, starved and abused animals learn to trust and love again. These wolfdogs have no where else to go. Nancy has made it her life's mission to reduce their suffering however she can and give them a good home for life. Time after time, animals that were unapproachable when they arrived, learn to love and trust again and that's why so many people are drawn to volunteer there. If it were not for Full Moom Farm, they would continue to be brutalized or simply euthanized.
In addition to caring for the wolfdogs at FMF, Nancy works tirelessly to educating the public about wolfdogs, dispelling the myth that they are dangerous or aggressive. Her beautiful and gentle "Ambassadog", River, accompanies her to educational events to the delight of all who meet him. This is very important to those of us who love wolfdogs because ignorance and inappropriate fear endanger these amazing dogs. Full Moon Farm has a warm, friendly, personal feel. The dogs are always happy to see volunteers and it's a joy to see them as well.
I'm confounded and upset that a few individuals with a personal vendetta against Nancy Brown are putting the welfare of the wolfdogs of Full Moon Farm in jeopardy to further their cause. It's reprehensible to put the animals at Full Moon Farm at risk by trying to undermine Nancy Brown's efforts. I don't know all of the authors of these reports against Full Moon Farm, but I so know that their reports are groundless and that their efforts are misguided, cynical and mean-spirited. If they loved wolfdogs, they would not be attacking Full Moon Farm.
#60 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Re: TO: Alleged Former Volunteer
AUTHOR: Eagle Who Watches - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 12, 2012
Take a stand, take ACTION and DO SOMETHING about it!!!!!
#61 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Re: TO: Alleged Former Volunteer
AUTHOR: Eagle Who Watches - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 11, 2012
And who are you to call what I have said slanderous. I do fear Nancy brown and I have my reasons for it. I don't need to ride on someone else's coat tails to come to that conclusion. Hang around long enough and you will be running from the mountain faster than she can say boo.
You've no idea what many of us have been through while volunteering at the farm. Your the one who needs to get a life. I have one and am very happy with it now that I have gotten away from that wretched woman. And work full time with a reputable sanctuary that truly has the animals best interest at heart.
What are you doing to help the animals at Full Moon Farm?
#62 General Comment
TO: Alleged Former Volunteer
AUTHOR: wolflover2 - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 11, 2012
If Animal Control and the Vet deem the animals and the animals' conditions are fit, who are you to decide otherwise? This is a vendetta and a power trip. I've seen this place and these animals. The only problem is you people. Geez. Get a life.
#63 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Former Volunteer
AUTHOR: Eagle Who Watches - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 09, 2012
I have seen the atrocities at Full Moon Farm first hand as an ex-volunteer. I am not a disgruntled former employee I am deeply saddened by the way in which the animals at Full Moon Farm are treated. I had tried to implement change when it comes to the care of the animals ie: better housing larger enclosures. Cleaning up the property and more importantly veterinarian care for the animals.
I have seen first hand Ms. Brown diagnose and treat an animal without consulting a veterinarian. Some of which have died on the property and are buried on the property. And some of which we were told had gotten out and Ms. Brown gave the ranchers permission to shoot to kill if a wolfer came onto their property.
I have also seen people being bitten but I am not going to say what animal the bite came from because several of the animals have aggression issues. What concerns me is that Ms. Brown has made it clear to us that if we were ever bitten and needed to see a doctor not to tell them that it happened at the farm. If you could not abide by those rules then you would not be able to volunteer at the Farm. So those of us that truly love the animals made these kinds of statements in order to be able to work with the animals. trying to socialize them and so forth.
I don't want to see any harm come to any of the animals, but I also do not want them to have to live under the conditions that they are currently in. I have made every attempt to remedy some of these problems but to no avail which led me to leave the farm.
I have given my written statement to the proper authorities and have turned over all documentation that I have with the hope that a proper investigation will take place and that changes can and will be implemented for the best interest of the animals.
I love and miss my duties at the farm, but knowing that people are trying to fix the problems eases my mind to a certain extent.
Our love and devotion to the animals is all that matters at this point. I felt the need to speak up because this has gotten so out of hand people attacking people when it should only be about the animals.
#64 UPDATE EX-employee responds
RE: LOL....
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 09, 2012
#66 UPDATE Employee
Re: Cheryl and wolfie....
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 09, 2012
This is so true...people judge and criticize what they do not want to believe or understand.....so tell's the character of the person..!!!!
#67 UPDATE Employee
Re..wolfie and cheryl
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 09, 2012
Cheryl.....it seem's you have lost your mind yet again...threatening me will do you and others no good,this is going to happen with or without your support and you can continue to lie and fall at Nancy's feet as everyone else does...Your Rantings and obvious inevitable mental breakdown is apparent by "Your" acct of things that happened at the farm. You and everyone just. don't get it...you really think I would spend all this time on a supposed vendetta towards Nancy...lol..she isn't worth it..but the animals deserve more and they are going to get it..!!! And Cheryl...yea Karma is a bitch,so go play with your mobile grooming business and play your little farm computer games cause in the end you will see the truth come out and the lies exposed...!!!!!
#68 UPDATE Employee
my nose smells.... personal vandetta
AUTHOR: cheryl b - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 08, 2012
Yes... I was having a tough time taking care of the animals... but GUESS WHAT... i was doing it. I lugged water, food and poop buckets... everyday! A pencil pushing 54 yr old woman, jumping into the farm life.... you bet your a** i was sore and tired! But a man 10yrs younger has to be a wuss and complain about the work?? When you got there the property was not in bad shape considering we were STILL cleaning up from an ice storm that nearly devastated the mountain,
and if you remember we had regulars from WW college helping in the clean up. I too put my blood, sweat and tears into the sanctuary. Actually i know several folks who have been breaking their backs for FMF from its inception, over coming many obstacles..... that no matter how they felt about Nancy, me, Sharon, Trey, Mish, etc.... they didn't go to the internet and try to destroy all the good that FMF has and will accomplish.
Yes.. I kept records of what meds the animals were being given... DUH... does it matter that it was note book pages being kept in the animals files? Did you keep any records of the treatments and diets that you maintained? Did you maintain meds and diets? Where is your proof, mine is on notebook pages in the animals' file.
Yes... Beverly has been to the farm on a multitude of times, she came in her church clothes to help Howler to the bridge. She came to the vet office on a Sunday to help Sky and Nita. She took 7am and 10pm calls from me when Dodger first came to us. Don't ever think that Beverly doesn't take care of the animals.... and yes.... the farm constantly owes a bill .. why? cuz the animals are being vetted! And yes... occasionally the farm has a feed bill due... mmmmm, cuz the animals are getting fed???
Misty is another animal you have no business saying anything about. I have my own demons to fight over her... I will not let you attach your ego to that. (to those that don't know... Misty was almost dead when Nancy got her... she had many problems, and the farm spent a lot of money to try to keep her healthy, she would get healthy and fall back... it was a week to week struggle at the end... but Misty was a fighter, never slowed down and always had a good attitude.. I fought at least twice to keep her from the bridge... Dr Beverly and Nancy over ruled ... it was her time... *find out more about Misty on our web page)
and i ask once again:
if the water was nasty... why wasn't it cleaned
if the food was bad... why wasn't it changed
if fences needed mending.. why didn't you mend them
YOU were in charge after all.
again.... MAN UP.... take your pettiness and walk away from the animals... i don't care what your problem is with Nancy... just leave the animals out of it! You run a good con... you got rid of me... right? no matter what i tried to tell anyone, they didn't believe me..... beware.... KARMA IS A B*TCH.
"may the powers that be look to this man, james landreth.. may the animals at Full Moon Farm be absent from his malice"
p.s. when it comes to Full Moon Farm, the only mistake i ever made was letting you run me off.
#70 UPDATE Employee
RE: Cheryl B
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 08, 2012
As for Beverly being there at all times...Why didn't she see Misty when she was out there..???? Because the only time she was there was for the rabies vaccinations..that's why.!!! You never called the vet to come see Misty or Mya ...they both got self-vetted by Nancy and you,that's why when you left Mya never got better because the meds she was getting was the wrong thing and she had not seen the vet and Nancy would not take her as Mya hates her..!!! As to Akila...you seem to forget what you were arguing about....her weight and not eating...not the bump on her nose..and after a couple of weeks trying to help her gain weight and it not working..yes she went to the vet.!! And now Chance...It was you,Sarah and me in the cabin with Chance the night before he was put down,and Nancy came down to look at him along with Patti,from up the hill,and Nancy decided it was time and tried to euthenize him with just ketamine,well it didn't work and he labored at breathing for a while but woke back up. The next morning me along with Sarah and Mish took him to Dr.Beverlys to be euthenized,they came out to the van and he went quietly..!!!! So is that accurate enough for you or do you want the times all this took place too..????
I am going to say once and for all,I busted my a** taking care of the animals,the farm,the vehicles and everything else including Nancy's house on the hill and for you and everyone else to say I never took animals to the vet, 8 times with 4 animals coming home to be buried,Chance,Dakota,Misty and Bear ....and that I did not take care and do everything for these animals..???? You are just as bad as Nancy at blaming others for your mistakes and shortcomings and when you decide to blame and spread lies you had better have the proof to back it up,not just your short term selective memory...!!!!! Thank You Cheryl for your's and Nancy's version of things that might have happened.......next time try the truth...!!!!
#71 UPDATE EX-employee responds
?? REALLY james ??
AUTHOR: cheryl b - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 08, 2012
"mr" james landreth was in charge of the animals, the caretaker after i left, and if the animals were in bad shape, who is at fault?? When i was caretaker, the animals got fresh food, fresh water and meds that were prescribed by the vet. If you think the vet wasn't/isn't involved, why would she take a call from me at any hour?
I am sure there are numerous posts from volunteers and others that have visited the farm... but the one i read from Sue was put very eloquently and is right on target. The farm has regular volunteers that would NEVER LET ANYTHING BAD HAPPEN to the animals.
When james first came to the farm with the SC animals, most came with severe problems. All were underweight and most were not the least bit socialized. With love from our volunteers, a lot of these animals are now tolerant and even invite human contact. james talks of self vetting... but he fails to mention that he spent every third or fourth night with his pocket knife in Akilas pen cutting open a bump on her nose... instead of having us take her to the vet. When i told Nancy that the animal needed to see the vet, he raised a stink and called me a liar. *i saw what i saw. After 2 weeks of fighting with him, i called Nancy to come and look for herself.... the dog seen the vet.
james: HOW DARE YOU talk about the last hours that Chance spent on this earth. For your information the meds given to him were to make him comfortable until morning, when he had his appointment to go to the bridge (a trip that you did NOT take). I loved that old man, and you will NOT make his passing a card in your vendetta deck! This statement also pertains to Ozzy, Mya (whom you did NOT give prescribed meds to), Dodger (whom i seen you give moldy bread to), or any other of the 'kidz' on the farm. Your problem is with Nancy, act like a man and leave the animals out of your problem.
I didn't copy the original report, so I forget what else i needed to make clear to the folks that do not know james landreth.
But know this:
if the water buckets were dirty, why didn't he make sure they were clean?
if the food was bad, why didn't he make sure they got fresh?
if the dog needed vetting, why wasn't Nancy or the vet called?
The pens and the grounds are maintained and the animals are in good shape, both physically and mentally (considering each and their personalities).
PLEASE.... visit Full Moon Farm at a Howl-In ... see with your own eyes :)
or visit us on facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Moon-Farm-Wolfdog-Sanctuary/208635945835968
or visit our web page:
http://www.fullmoonfarm.org
#72 Consumer Comment
Libel & Slander
AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 08, 2012
Libel is an offense that occurs when one party spreads false information about another party by way of written word. This can include posting lies on the Internet, publishing a story in a magazine, or writing on a bathroom wall. Slander occurs when one party tells lies about another through speech. This oral offense is not limited to face-to-face conversations.
A person may be guilty of slander for statements made over an intercom or left on an answering machine.It is important to note that a person cannot be successfully sued for slander or libel unless there is a third party involved. The law does not recognize that an offense has occurred when false information is limited to a perpetrator and the individual who alleges harm. Another important similarity between slander and libel is that each has only one absolute defense, which is truth.
No matter the harm done to a persons reputation, the party causing harm cannot be found guilty of slander or libel if she can prove that the statements that she made are true.
And we know the statements that we have made are true!
Heed your word's wisely, they may come back to haunt you "Says The Seed To The Spawn"
#73 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Re...
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, June 07, 2012
Go right ahead and throw me under the bus to make yourselves feel better because I know in my heart that this is the right thing to do..!!! I'm curious though...do you really know the true story and facts or are you going on rumors and lies from Nancy ..???? I will not be commenting anymore because no matter the proof or the facts that come out,some people fail to see the truth..!!!
#74 Consumer Comment
Shame on all of you for the slandering of this rescue
AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, June 07, 2012
#75 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Re...donations
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, June 07, 2012
#76 Consumer Comment
Donations
AUTHOR: ARA - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, June 07, 2012
I don't know if this amount of money is worth contacting the IRS about but if anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it.
#77 UPDATE EX-employee responds
RE..WoW !!
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 04, 2012
#78 Consumer Comment
Expecting perfection by a human's standards?
AUTHOR: Sue - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 04, 2012
Seriously...who cares. Weeds? True or not true, I doubt the dogs are devastated by that because, well...they're DOGS. Dogs aren't offended by nature; in fact, they rather like it.
Grass grows quickly. Mud is, unfortunately, what dirt turns into when it rains a lot--like it does often in NC during the spring. Some humans may be put off by a muddy patch within a large pen, where the water tub was just dumped for refilling, &/or where the animal played in the water tub as the vast majority of wolfdogs will do...but that doesn't really say anything about overall quality of life...only about how much it rained, or if the mower was in the shop. Are the animals healthy? Are their frames of mind good? Do they have appropriate setups/environments? These are the important things.
(I don't know who the Inverness person is or if they've ever been to FMF, but their platform isn't any better: "I think all the positive reviews must be made up by the owner. That way, they wouldn't outweigh the postings from the only two negative people: me and the disgruntled ex-employee.")
I've been around long enough to know, for sure, who *all but one* of the positive testimonal writers are, in Real Life...and none of those are Nancy, so it seems to me you're grasping at straws due to a lack of genuine support.
This whole thing is getting pretty silly. I'm sorry you had bad experiences there, and I understand that there are two sides to every story and that *no one* can ever be perfect (nor can they ever please EVERYONE)...but the gross exaggeration of crying "witch" is morally reprehensible, and making waves when no one is suffering or endangered is absolutely not in the best interests of the dogs. If you had issues with the handling of any dog (partially) in your care, why wouldn't you try to do something *then*, instead of just pitching a fit a year after you've left?
James, I don't really know you but it sounds to me like you haven't had a lot of experiences with senior dogs. Life isn't all sunshine and butterflies when you get old--whether you're a human or a dog. You slow down, you get achy with arthritis, and if you live long enough, you end up with tumors/cancer, because that's what usually kills you when you didn't succumb to anything else. (Btw, the occurences of Iceman seeing the vet would be easy enough to confirm, especially for any of the agencies that are responsible for such things. The vet does keep records!)
I really feel for seniors, but it's not necessarily best to run right out and kill them the moment they show signs of aging. Granted, different people choose to do it later, or sooner, than others...I know some people wait longer than I would, but regardless, *it's not my call*. If the animal's pain is managed and their overall quality of life is good, then the call on "When It's Time" is totally up to the owner. That's because they are the OWNER. If you (general "you", meaning all those people who are quick to critique other folks' rescues) want to call all the shots on a rescue, then -start your own rescue-. The mentality that "I know best, and everyone else needs to do everything MY way or I'll sic the animal rights groups, cops, etc on them" is mindblowing...I don't know what's wrong with the world to make people feel this way, but it's getting more and more common in the rescue world and it's always the animals who pay for it. :-(
#79 Consumer Comment
Ouch
AUTHOR: Dirt Bike Rider - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 04, 2012
Um I didn't threaten you, just stated the facts that you better hope your statements on here are true, or Ms. Brown will have quite a case against you for slander.
As far as this profile goes, No way would I tell you my real name and put my family at risk by the likes of you. This will be my last post, and you can consider this one person that you did NOT convince with your bogus "Rip Off" report. It's easy to see how childish you are by your angry, hate filled posts. Neither you, or this hateful display of spite is worthy of a response. Nuff said!
#80 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Dirty rider....
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 04, 2012
#81 Consumer Comment
Re: Of Course
AUTHOR: Dirt Bike Rider - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 04, 2012
I saw people interacting with Iceman he was getting pets and he was loving all over people. If you look at the Full Moon Farms album you will read where they state, and I quote "Ice was given a clean bill of health by Dr. Beverly last week." So Mr. Landreth I do have the facts, and I have seen for my own eyes. How long has it been since you have been there? A year?
Let me also ask you this, You (James) are the Ex caretaker, also those private emails are dated last year. If you were truly concerned about the animals and their well being, why did you wait a whole year to bring this up?
No I have not volunteered there but, nor do I know how Ms. Brown treats her volunteers. But by reading all these posts by you and past volunteer's and board members, it seems to me that all of you claim she is hard to get along with, which kinda confirms the whole "personal vendetta" for me.
And to you N. Rodgers, There are plenty of albums on the Facebook page, showing all the animals not just 5 or 6. Go look for yourself, or better yet go visit, it's open to the public.
People the fact is, and if you can't admit this you may need to re-think your priority's. This is being handled the WRONG way. As I have said already, If you people have hard evidence against Ms. Brown, then take it to the proper authorities, they and only they are judge, jury, and executioner. This example here, and the Facebook page made goes to show that some people got their feelings hurt, and disgruntled ex employees are out for revenge. This is public slander plain and simple. You guys had better have your "facts" straight, because I see
serious repercussions to each and everyone of you.
#82 Consumer Comment
Howlin
AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 03, 2012
N. Rodgers
#83 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Of course...
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 03, 2012
#84 Consumer Comment
My observations at Howl In yesterday
AUTHOR: Dirt Bike Rider - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 03, 2012
As we pulled up we noticed a Deputy's car parked at the entrance, when I questioned this I was told it was because, someone I believe the Ex caretaker above had sent all this info all over the internet, including to extreme animal rights groups like PETA and some even more extreme groups. To me that is WRONG! Again putting the lives of the animals in danger.
We asked a staff member could we see the lower level, because in this accusation it was told that no one was allowed down there. Well this is untrue, we were took on a private tour and we would like to Thank the wonderful staff member that showed us around.
We also asked to see Iceman, the wolfdog that was said to be hidden covered in mud and his own feces. What we saw was a happy healthy boy not hidden at all, as a matter of fact you can see his pen along with a few others from the top of the hill, and as well as you walk down the driveway. He was also being visited by his sponsor, we were told and seemed over joyed. Yes he was in a 10X10 but we noticed his and all the pens were clean and well kept. We also saw that efforts were being made to build larger enclosures for those animals.
So may I suggest before anyone passes judgement, see for yourself, don't believe something just because it's posted on the internet. They also say a picture is worth a thousand words. so I suggest that everyone in doubt go look at the pictures I saw posted today by Full Moon Farms Facebook page, what you will see is happy healthy animals, not ones being abused.
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.417621274937433.102896.208635945835968&type=1
#85 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Fuzzy godmother..!!!
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 01, 2012
#86 Consumer Comment
You have no idea
AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 01, 2012
Everyone keeps bitching and making accusations about the caretaker James being a convicted felon. because he had a shady past makes him not credible? What about the other volunteers that have quit what about the board of directors that tried to fix these problems but Nancy would not have a thing to do with it? Why are you harping on one person. Oh, because he is the only one that you can slam?
I hope they put you in a 10x10 cage with feces and mud up to your ass covered in mange with tumors all over your body and stick you behind a shack so no one can see you.
You people are the ones making it personal, not the people that are coming forward.
Get over yourselves, find something else to b*tch about already!
#87 General Comment
Not easy running a rescue
AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 01, 2012
#88 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Character Assassination
AUTHOR: furry godmother - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 01, 2012
BTW: Did anyone FORCE Mr. Landreth to live at Full Moon Farm? I don't think so. So they should stop crying about his living conditions. If what he says is true, why did he stay there? As far as I know, Ms. Brown isn't running a charity hotel for transients.
Also, I am NOT Nancy Brown and I have never met all these "aliases" who claim to be in the know. They are afraid to come into the open. I won't give my name because I do not wish to be harassed by people making wild accusations. Also, their FB page is nonsense (and I'm being polite). They state it's not personal. Yes it is. Destruction is always personal. They may get some of these animals destroyed and if that happens, they will NEVER, NEVER be forgiven.
#89 Consumer Comment
If this is true!
AUTHOR: Concerned Citizen - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 01, 2012
I do not see personal vendetta as people are claiming. I have also seen the facebook page and i did see pictures of people petting and handeling the animals. This is so disheartening i hope everyone that is coming forward is turning their evidence over to the proper authorities. Not much I can do for anyone since i am just learning about this. But if it is the truth I really want to see someone save these animals.
#90 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Via former employee member of the board
AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 01, 2012
I sincerely believe in my heart that 2/3 of the now 85 animals-yes-she took in three more-could be adopted or placed with another sanctuary. Contrary to what some are thinking, we don't want all of the animals euthanized-we want them in a better living situation and many could find forever homes.
There are those of us who worked tirelessly for a six month period to bring Nancy on board with positive changes and vetting for the animals. Two statements stand out in my mind-like any hoarder-she doesn't want to give up control or have anyone "touch her sh*t" and she has stated that" I don't need anyone telling me how to treat my woofers, I know them better than anyone else!"
Obviously that is not working. Another thing she has stated repeatedly is that she is done, she just wants to sell the place. Obviously the statement, no matter how many times it is said is not true, or she would have all ready put it on the market.
We are also (come to find out) the third board who has tried to make changes and ended up being blamed for Nancy's inability. Many kept records. All are willing to turn their documents over to the authorities. It occurs to me that if Nancy really and truly cared for these animals, that she would be willing to step down.
#91 General Comment
I see Personal Vendetta
AUTHOR: Dirt Bike Rider - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 01, 2012
If you people have incriminating evidence against Ms. Brown then why not take it to the proper authorities? Let them handle it.
Instead you put the lives of these animals at stake this way? These are accusations only, everyone is innocent until proven guilty last time I looked.
I also ask this, are all you on here that are in support of this accusation willing to step up and take all the animals in, find them sanctuary because of what you have started? I'm sure this facility is struggling in this economy, and now may loose much needed donations because of this.
Have any of you thought about what kind of chaos you may have created for those animals because of this public slander?
Or wait let me answer for you, NO! You are only thinking of yourselves and you "Personal Vendetta"
Also is it not against the law to post private emails? Real tacky in my opinion either way.
When this place shuts down because of you, I sure hope you can sleep at night knowing the blood of those animals is on your hands!
I have seen Full Moon Farm first hand, many times it is a wonderful place, the animals are all happy and healthy. During Howl In's they only let sponsors on the lower levels, this is for the safety of the people and animals. They will also take you down for a tour if you ask a staff member. It is not a "Petting Zoo" as stated above, no one is allowed near the animals. It is a Sanctuary.
Oh and I also saw the Facebook page which I'm sure one of you created, just more proof of what this really is. You people need to grow up and handle things the adult way, and know that people will see you for what you really are by doing things like this. If you do have hard evidence (which I doubt you do) then take it where it belongs and stop this childish slander.
#92 Consumer Comment
Are you serious?
AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 01, 2012
#93 Consumer Comment
Re: Character assasination
AUTHOR: Katelynn - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 01, 2012
No one wants to take over Full Moon Farm, what we do want is a full investigation into your activities. The care of the animals, the misappropriation of funds. You Ms. Brown are sadly mistaken if you think anyone of the people coming forward want to run the farm. They don't, they want the animals to have the best possible chance at a good life being well cared for, fed properly, routine vetrinary care and socialization. And we also want to make sure that not one more person is bitten by another of your animals because of your stupidity.
Stop hiding under an alias name to cover your ass, why will you not allow anyone to bring cameras into the howlin? Why do you not allow people onto the three levels of the farm? Why are you hiding sick animals behind buildings and not getting them vet care? Please tell us, it's okay you can use your alias. We already know which post are yours.
Kate
#94 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Character Assassination
AUTHOR: furry godmother - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 01, 2012
#95 Consumer Comment
Re: Character assasination
AUTHOR: Katelynn - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
Nancy you really should stop with trying to defend yourself using aliases. You can change the style in which it is written but the words are the same. And the information your posting you would only be privy to so stop already. And go take care of the animals, get in the trenches take Iceman to the vet please.
Gigs up, time to rescue some wolf-dogs
Kate
#96 Consumer Comment
Birds of a feather "Kat"
AUTHOR: Katelynn - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
Do you even know that there are 3 levels to the property, some of which are not accessible to the general public or people on tour? Do you know about Iceman hidden behind a building with mange and tumors so bad that he cant stand to be touched. Do you know about Chance, the dog Nancy tried to euthanize with Ketamine. He didn't go down as expected so she left him to suffer over night until she could take him to the vet and have him properly euthanized? The volunteers thought he was going to suffocate through the night.
Her own words have come back to bite her. Do tell Kat how does a tumor on the back of a dogs tongue get so bad that it looks like a prickly pair before you noticed something was wrong? Stick a golf ball in your mouth and try to swallow.
Here let me share with you what is on Facebook that is not posted here, and then lets get to another matter at hand Kat, how about the pictures of your animals. Shall we post those here or on Facebook Kat? Birds of a feather!
All of this information is on Facebook located here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Truth-About-Full-Moon-Farm-in-Black-Mountain-NC/467670526581380
Email from Nancy
From: Nancy LaPorta BrownSent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:49 PMTo: fmf_volunteers@yahoogroups.comSubject: [fmf_volunteers] Another Star in the Sky today As suspected, Dakota II - aka Dakotdiak - had an inoperable tumor. It was unlike anything that Dr. Dillman, (71 years old), had ever seen. It looked like a prickley pear, about the size of a golf ball, attached to the back of his tongue. There was nothing we could do.
He had a fabulous morning, so happy to see Pam and Dave. He crawled in Pam's lap for scritches. We took a crate in early, did chores for a while, and Pam and Dave took high value treats in. They fed a few to da boyz, and then put some in the crate. He walked right in. He never fussed or fretted. Dave and Richard carried him to my vehicle, and Pam and I took off. We had to wait a while, as there was a rabies clinic, and he was calm. Once inside, I got a slip lead on him, and a muzzle. we administered Dormitor, and got him into the Xray room. (I stepped on the damn pedal and took an Xray shot of air!) Dr. D. was looking around and gasped. Dakota ate this morning and woofed down his treats. How, is beyond all of us.
I know in my heart that he knew, and he was ready. He wasn't ready two weeks ago, but today he was.
Please keep Kodiak in your prayers. The have been together for a long time.
<sigh>
Nancy
Former member of the board of directors statement Lynda Nicols
Resignation Letter and Explanation
At the time of my admittance to the board, Nancy Laporta-Brown informed me that my treasury position was to only include documentation of donations and charitable contributions.. Several donors have asked why they have not received their tax letters for charitable donations, and I have no record of such donation even being made.
I have never seen a financial statement, nor been provided the means to create one. This leads me to the next item; salaries. Repeatedly stated, no one at Full Moon Farm, Inc. receives a salary, and yet, in the next breath, Nancy Laporta-Brown states she has not received an income since 2009(or 2004, depending on statements and/or emails made by Miss Brown) This holds no credibility when Miss Brown lives in a very nice house, drives a well maintained vehicle, purchases organic, natural foods, pays her electric bill, has Internet access, 4 separate phone lines, eats out a minimum of 4 times a week, ect, ect; questions are raised and I have no explanations.
There is no financial accountability. The farm files a 990, which basically means, the monies made are stated, not fact. All cash donations are held by Miss Brown, and only Miss Brown, who is accountable to no one.
This does not mean, Miss Brown can not be paid by Full Moon Farm, Inc. for the work provided, but, it does mean that an honest, up front salary is created, and a paycheck issued, weekly.
At this point, a CPA should be in charge of the treasury job at Full Moon Farm, Inc.
Personal friends of mine have made substantial donations to Full Moon Farm, Inc., and those donations were not used for the designated purpose.
Example: Michele Nagle donated $340.00, pursuant to a plea posted on Face book, in regards to animal spay and neuters. The only animal neutered was Daegen. The others are still intact.
No explanation for why no other animal was spayed/neutered, as the money was directed for. It is disheartening and to me; dishonest, as I inadvertently accepted money for a specific need, and that need went unmet.
Everything I have done for Full Moon Farm, Inc. was honest, up front, and done with compassion for the dogs residing on your property. After my home burned down, I donated $100 dollars to FMF for the dog food UPC tags that burned, I paid my $200 for Board Insurance(which is still not purchased, and I am no longer part of) I also gave an additional $200 for the used printer that was given to me by Miss Brown for FMF work, and burned in the fire.
I received no acknowledgment nor receipt of this.
I have been unable to write a grant during my time with FMF, due to the following:
No Financial Statements
Goals
Detailed plans for reaching granting goals
Breakdown of what the grant will be used for.
Long term sustainability of funding
As well as no yearly budgets.
No guarantee considering the lack of financial disclosure what the money would be used for.
Animal care, is another issue I am going to speak of. We have daily check sheets, to which, no one reads. Miss Brown frequently misses issues regarding mobility, eating, bowels or behavioral issues, due to lack of due diligence.
Dakota is case in point. Dakota's condition was verbal as well as written, by multiple volunteers, myself included. No veterinairy care was provided until it was to late to save the dog. A golf ball size tongue tumor does not appear overnite. The amount of discomfort to try and swallow food, drink, or as we all saw, swallow your own saliva, must have been incredible. It was ignored, and if you believe Miss Brown, FMF's veterinarian also ignored it. I spoke with my personal vet, and he stated that a call in regards to any animal, drooling, would have been an immediate office visit, not dose and run, as he called it.
This leads me to the next issue, practicing veterinary medicine with out a license. Not only is this a Class 1 Misdemeanor, it runs per count. Meaning every act is prosecuted as a separate act, ten pills, ten counts, ten illness' missed, another ten counts, ext, ext.
Add to this, not one person on FMF property is a licensed veterinarian, none have the knowledge or training, persuent to the law, to diagnose and treat a medical condition.
Sadly, something as simple as, dosing an animal, without an accurate weight, and you are doing more damage than not.
Now, we also have animals that you do not need to be a veterinarian to see something is seriously wrong. Animals with hip dysplasia, watching them move is painful, an animal covered in tumors and showing signs of mange, coats that are matted and filthy, open lesions and hot spots, allergies untreated, severe ear damage from flies, fleas, ticks, ect. When asked about prevention, the comment given was to mow the lawn to prevent ticks, high contents are not bothered by fleas, and the untouchables can't be treated.
What is the quality of life? We are responsible for not only their basic needs, but enrichment and socialization. This is not mercy, it is neglect.
The sheer number of animals is one of the biggest factors within your problems. There are mental issues with several red zone animals. Autumn can only be handled by two people, if one comes once a week, she is lucky. That means she spends 312 days alone (if not more).
There are so many animals on this property, there is no time to finish all chores for care and to socialize with the animals. If you give each of the 83 animals on the property ten minutes, that equates to 13 hours in one day, for one person.
There are no standards for adoptions or outtakes for animals that should not be at a sanctuary. No standard of care, or euthanasia guidelines.
Instead, an Animal Communicator tells FMF when an animal is ready to end its life, instead of allowing a veterinarian to educate you on that animals quality of life and treatment options.
There are also personal animals housed at FMF. Banjo was purchased at 9 days old, Aries was 4 months old. These were pups, chosen by Miss Brown, to be owned and cared for, as her own animals. The 501(c)3 now provides all care for both animals. Miss Brown is still hoping to breed Aries who has lost his bite inhibition and is becoming kennel crazed.
3 unreported dog bites have occurred in the last 4 months. This is a $500 dollar fine, per bite, along with misdemeanor charges, and possible other legal issues, as all bites are to be recorded and all animals quarantined, per the state of North Carolina.
This is a sanctuary, and needs to be run in the best interest for the animals you choose to accept and care for. Quality versus Quantity.
It was my hope that FMF went to the next level, with a strong board, people working together and animals receiving the care they deserve.
The continued lies, rumors, deception, drama, ect, have made it clear, that the past will continue into the future.
The appalling care of the caretaker, was the final straw. Working from dawn until well after dark, verbal abuse, no money, many times no food, no running water, no heat, etc, all while, a perfectly habitable cabin is 300 feet away. Then, to turn him into a sordid, lie filled story, to make you look better, even more disgusting. This speaks to not only your lack of moral compass, but your vindictiveness.
That was the moment I was done. You have lost several good volunteers; ones there for the right reasons, along with the support of people who not only donated, but also validated your reputation, myself included. That is over now.
What I see happening at FMF upsets me on not only an emotional level, but a moral one, as well. I will do what I can to see these animals are cared for in the was they deserve and need.
On a legal note, we are all potentially facing serious trouble for our knowledge and lack of follow through with reporting.
At the end of the day, it is about those dogs, and that is it. Do the right thing by them, even if it means swallowing your pride, spite and hate. Those dogs have no choice in what you DO get to choose for them.
I resigned from the board, not as a volunteer. Since I was removed from both the board page and volunteer page, this was the only option left to clarify my resignation. Lynda Nicols
This is a show that Nancy Brown describes how she ignored the dogs care.
She describes how anemic the dog is, the sizes of the tumor they could see on his tongue.
This did not happen overnight! http://www.blogtalkradio.com/animal-alliance-radio/2012/05/11/animal-alliance-radio
Another email James TO:Kim Message flaggedThursday, June 30, 2011 8:37 PM Thank You so much for your kind words Kim..We will miss the Farm but not the crap that comes with it!!! I think that we will be searching other Rescues and Sanctuaries to give our time and talents too...It is very sad that one person can hurt and degrade others to the point they want to give up or leave!!! It breaks my heart that these innocent animals have to suffer through all this..It just isn't right!!!!! We will be around if you ever need us and we will not be strangers, Thank You Kim..Many blessings....:D From: KimTo:Sent: Wed, June 29, 2011 9:19:46 PMSubject: James leaving!? Hey guys....just thought I would give a 'what the hell' out to you about James and Lisa leaving as caretakers. I know we have all been 'here' numerous times although this might be one of the first for Jay. I have not even called Nancy about this whole situation because I have come to feel so defeated when it applies to the Farm and people/ideas that have big ways of 'creating a business, getting all these animals into humane enclosures, working with socialization, adopting out very adoptable animals and so forth'. Have you noticed I did not include Nancy in on this email because well.......I would surely get banned and railed publicly and not feeling that aggro vibe in my Life. I think Dean and Ryan took sensible steps back out of frustration and lack of creating a big difference because of Nancy. She is truly her own worse enemy and completely self-sabotaging as a likable human, rescuer and business owner. A little heads up....since the spring, Nancy has been talking to selected friends about shutting down FMF in Oct/Nov if 'things' do not improve. She has not said this to me personally because I do not call her anymore. I cannot hear the same crying, crispy story she has over and over. I will say here and on record what Sarah H. told me, James, Lisa and Sarah's girlfriend(Jess) this past Monday June 27,2011 when talking about this subject. I asked Sarah what in the world would nancy do with all 80 some dogs if she shuts down?? She told me that she has asked Nancy that same question and that one of Nancy's response is that she would 'put down' the older wolfdogs. This is when Sarah told us "this is when you see me putting more posts about donations, events to donate". Well, I wanted to vomit hearing this. Should we take this as just Nancy running her mouth or serious? Sarah also included that if we asked Nancy about this 'remark' then Nancy would deny it. I am not including Sarah in this email because I do not truly know where she stands in regard to Nancy....although listening to her on Monday she will share what the two of them have talked about. I will stand by this statement though because I feel that as an incredible hypocritical, self serving, demented attitude to her 'rescue animals.' With that said, here we go with 'another caretaker that Nancy will micro manage and run into the ground or submission'.....in no way do I feel that she has the best interest of the dogs or people involved. Heard nasty little stories about how she was willing to let you go Sharon after that whole Alison F. ordeal(via Sarah H.). After 3 years volunteering I am shocked FMF has lasted as long as it has....she truly has a difficult and dysfuntional time dealing with people. If it comes to me telling this all to Nancy I WILL but hope this will be in confidentiality. I truly care about sooooo many of the animals out there. I also want to be present if 'the shit hits the fan' and she is eauthanizing animals and dispersing the rest to rally for their defense. Even though I talked personally with today James, I wanted to say THANK YOU again for giving the last year of your Life to FMF. I believe you had the wolfdogs best interest in your heart at all times and your vision for their better livelihood is inspiring. You could not have been a better caretaker and any rescue organization will be so fortunate to have your love, dedication and work ethic:) I look forward to seeing you volunteering at FMF, hopefully for many years to come my friend! Much love and respect....Kim
Another Rant, how in Gods name could a caretaker/volunteer that receives no pay come up with this kind of money?
----- Forwarded Message -----From: "jamesTo:Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:19 PMSubject: Fw: Pens, interaction and more... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "Nancy Brown" <wolfmommy></wolfmommy>Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:00:30 -0400To: sharonSubject: Re: Pens, interaction and more... Folks, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.. We have no insurance, there will be no more interaction with any high content, questionable animal, by anyone - per my attorney. In fact, I am considering shutting it down, and may have to , after you read the rest of this email... Think long and hard folks - my second mortgage is late. The property taxes are late. My job as a real estate broker comes to a halt today, at 5:00, as I cannot pay my dues of $525.00 - hence I have no way of making any income. The farm owners policy of $615.00 must be paid today, or that calls my mortgage due. My electric bill, telephone, satellite, cell phone are all over due. So Trey - can you come up with $125,000? Can any of you? I'll sell the property and all for $250,000. Step up to the plate folks! Ludicrous? I have carried this to the tune of more than a half of a million dollars for the last 9 years. I have no income, no chance of any income no 401, no retirement plan, no partner, spouse, husband or wife to foot my bills. My kids are all pissed off because I am broke and cannot pay my bills. Cheryl worked for no money. James works for no money and I have worked for no money. If pens were built with the materials on the ground, instead of play time with the dogs, we would not have so many animal in 10 x 10's. Put up or shut up. Someone buy me out, or help me shut it down - those are the options. $2,000 cash to me today by 3:00 is what is needed. The farm may be solvent in some respects, but I own the property and if I loose the property the farm is no more. If I drop dead from a stress heart attack, the farm is no more. Trey - I am Full Moon Farm, and I stand to loose everything, and a lot of animals stand to loose their lives. Ask your mom, since January of 2008 I have begged for some help in getting grants, funding, a working board of experienced people, and I have failed. So that failure means we all loose. ~Nancy From Trey - Hey Nancy, this is Trey, I did take Cory into Autumns pen only because Autumn likes Cory, just like Ishkara or Alison. If anybody, I would be the first to know If Autumn posed a threat to someone due to the fact I spend more time with her than anyone else. If I least bit felt that anything negative could have resulted from the experience I wouldn't have allowed it. I do not "antagonize" Mi'je, I've been working with her through targeting commands to teach her positive reinforcement. In the advent that someone whom Mi'je does not know where to venture to close she would now most likely sniff them which I've taught her to do, instead of biting. I feel that you are not there enough to truly see how we interact with the animals resulting in you're perception of them based solely on you're personal experience with them, for example "Autumn hates Nancy therefore Autumn hates everyone and is considered dangerous." Imposing a hands off would be detrimental to all we've worked for. I understand it applying to new volunteers and the public, but for you're actual Volunteers, "people that actually come up there every weekend" I find it ludicrous. From: sharonSent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 2:08 PMTo: TreySubject: Re: Pens, interaction and more... All of us which are regular volunteers, know that if we are bitten and have to go to the Dr. not to say that we were bitten by one of the guys at the farm.I would never do or say anything to jeopardize you the farm or the animals there. I also think since I have been volunteering, and now that we have more regular dedicated volunteers that understand the animals and their behavior, I can say that the animals are 100 times better socially and that's because we interact with them, walk them and so forth. Volunteering is hard work and I think our pay is being able to interact with the animals, imposing a hands off means I can't go up and see Mi'je, Aries, Mya. Tatonka, that's devastating to me.I do understand that new volunteers and visitors should not be hands on with the animals because they don't know them or their behavior.Nancy I love you too, and I feel like you are the same as my family, I have never or would never do anything intentionally behind your back. The decisions I make at the farm when you are not there are based on my best intentions for the animals, and based on my knowledge of them. I feel like in the 4 years that I have been coming, by now I should know what I'm doing, if not then I don't need to be there. I'm sorry if you feel disappointed by us and what we do, but that was never our intentions.I had woke up this morning feeling really good about yesterday, we worked hard got the chores done then took, Zen, Wraith, Sofia and Dodger for a walk, again I apologize if that was wrong, and I am sorry. --- On Sun, 3/13/11, Nancy Brown <wolfmommy></wolfmommy> wrote:From: Nancy Brown <wolfmommy></wolfmommy>Subject: Pens, interaction and more... Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 12:12 PM We no longer have liability insurance. I will start locking the high content pens, to keep people out. Trey - if there is something that you do not want me to know about, the DON'T DO IT! I understand you took Corey into Autumn's pen, and then did not want me to know about it, and that is not acceptable. I am very disappointed that things are being done without my knowledge. I am not trying to be a bitch here, but it must be understood that the buck stops at me - I am the one who would loose everything. One bite, one incident that requires hospitalization, shuts us down, and I loose my property. The dogs will die, as there is no place for them to go, and my property will be seized for payment of debts, after I get my ass sued off. I will post to the volunteer list that hands off if now in effect. Please do not antagonize Mi'je and making her growl. Please exercise caution around Mya, especially if I am on the property, and keep everyone away from Banjo, as he is getting moodier and moodier. We will be having a board meeting the last weekend of the month, and now protocols will be put into effect. Please send me your ideas soon. I am very thankful to all of you, and love you all like family - (maybe better than family at times!) - so please do not take any of this personal. If I do not start running this like a business, it will all be shut down, when I drop dead of a heart attack from the stress of it all. If I die, loose the property or go insane, more than 80 animals are screwed.
EMAIL REGARDING JAMES DEPARTURE
My Leaving.......read from the bottom email to top..!!!!..................... Hello All...I just wanted to say what a pleasure it was to get to know each and every one of you. I will keep this short for obvious reasons..Me and Lisa will be leaving tomorrow for good,after we do our chores and say our goodbyes to the wolfers we will be headed out...We love each and every one of you and will miss you...Thank You for everything!!!! Many blessings,
James&Lisa
From: "jameslandreth
To: Nancy Browne
Cc: Sharon Greene
Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 10:42:22 PM
Subject: Re: Things
I will know better in the next few days.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: "Nancy Brown"
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:40:33
To: <jameslandreth95@yahoo.com>
Cc: Sharon Greene; Jay Alcombright; Allison Frady; Mish Frankl; Sarah Hallback, Pam and Dave Michael Kim Tulloss-Smith
Subject: Re: Things
Effective date?
--------------------------------------------------
From: <jameslandreth95@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:19 PM
To: "Nancy Brown"
Cc: "Sharon Greene" ; "Jay Alcombright"
; "Allison Frady" ;
"Mish Frankl" ; "Sarah Hallback" ; "Pam and Dave Michael" ; "Kim
Tulloss-Smith"
Subject: Re: Things
> Dear Nancy and everyone here...It has taken me a few day's to write this,
> I love the animals and you all so much and I thank each of you for all you
> have given me and Lisa..with that said I resign as caretaker with the
> deepest regret and sadness. Thank You All,
> James
> ------Original Message------
> To: Nancy Brown
>
> Subject: Re: Things
> Sent: Jun 25, 2011 9:53 AM
>
> Nancy...I wish that you would have sat and talked this out before this
> post. James
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Nancy Brown
> To: jameslandreth
>
> Subject: Things
> Sent: Jun 25, 2011 5:35 AM
>
> June 25, 2011 Dear James, It has become apparent that your time with
> Full Moon Farm is coming to an end. I have several requests of you: 1.)
> Be professional. Enough of the Facebook posting. Every negative thing
> you post affects the dogs. If it is about the dogs, then make it so.
> 2.) Advise me of the times you will be away from the property, the needs
> of the animals, and your estimated date of departure. 3.) Continue to
> perform your duties until your replacement can be found and trained. It
> is my understanding that you are making arrangements to leave already.
> 4.) Full Moon Farm has been an incorporated business since 2002. We will
> continue on. I am most appreciative of your service for the past 10
> months, and only wish you well. As life goes on, we all know that people
> and things change. I harbor no ill feelings, and wish you the best of
> life in your next adventure. In gratitude, and in Peace. ~Nancy
There have been multiple animals that have had to be put to sleep because they were to far gone in regards to their health. If they were being checked regularly by the vet then their health would have never gotten that bad. There is an animal on the property covered in tumors that is not being treated by a vet, the only place on this animals body you can even touch him is on his head because he is in too much pain covered in tumors. Also there are multiple animals that have not been spayed or neutered but Nancy has money to buy organic groceries and dine out on a regular basis.
Unlike Share
The Truth About Full Moon Farm in Black Mountain, NC, Tina L Wise and 3 others like this.
Cynthia Claassens WTH!!!!!
14 hours ago via mobile Unlike 2
Barbie Nemeth thats what I said????
13 hours ago Unlike 1
Wolf Man No wonder nothing changes up there...!!!!
13 hours ago Like
Traci Walela Spirit Cremeans WTF?
5 hours ago via mobile Like
Lynda Nichols The animals you see on the tour are not all of the animals. Three of those animals you have seen have bitten someone within the last three months and Ms Brown told that person that if she required a Dr.s care-to say it happened at home. It is illegal to not report an animal bite. You have never been down the hill and seen those animals.
5 hours ago Unlike 1
Hello,
Don't want to go personally public with this. But, with either Mystic or Chewey. Says they got bloat, but one of them kept getting out, and no human could go near them. They got out about 2/3 times could barely trap them. Had to be tricked to go into a different pen. Nancy got word from a local farmer, that the dog was hurrassing some of there animals and since nancy could not catch her, she ended up telling the farmer if she tries to kill any go ahead and shoot her. Whish ended up happening being shot. But yet she told everyone it was bloat. Big sigh. I do hope something gets done soon. In Regards.xxxx
Unlike Share
The Truth About Full Moon Farm in Black Mountain, NC and 2 others like this.
Wolf Man No reports and big lies....WTH..?????
12 hours ago Like 1
The Truth About Full Moon Farm in Black Mountain, NC Email Section stating the above is true. Full Email posted in notes.
"Nancy Brown"
Qote: "For the record, I ok'd a rancher to shoot an animal of mine that escaped in January of 2008, after a tree took out his fence, in an ice storm. I set...See More
3 hours ago Unlike 1
The Truth About Full Moon Farm in Black Mountain, NC James here...did anyone catch the fact that Nancy just admitted to having darts and the gun and meds..all of which she has not had the proper training and certs to use and the meds...Where did you get the meds Nancy.??? You do not have a FDA license to buy them,who gave them to you..????? And I don't understand how you could not catch one of your own animals..????? You said you spent 10,000 on going to Cali and a month to do it to catch Shadow and Sunshine...but you had help on that Nancy because you do not know what you are doing cause if you did all that escaped from your house and the farm would have been captured.....I know because that it was I do now....Prove me wrong..?????
What do these people have to gain, NOTHING.....but better care and treatment of these animals.
Sometimes it is not easy to see what is right in our face.
Kate
#97 Consumer Comment
I call BS
AUTHOR: WRR - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
#98 Consumer Comment
Character Assassination
AUTHOR: furry godmother - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
#99 General Comment
understanding
AUTHOR: wolflover - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
#100 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Kat....
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
A little heads up....since the spring, Nancy has been talking to selected friends about shutting down FMF in Oct/Nov if 'things' do not improve. She has not said this to me personally because I do not call her anymore. I cannot hear the same crying, crispy story she has over and over. I will say here and on record what Sarah H. told me, James, Lisa and Sarah's girlfriend(Jess) this past Monday June 27,2011 when talking about this subject. I asked Sarah what in the world would nancy do with all 80 some dogs if she shuts down?? She told me that she has asked Nancy that same question and that one of Nancy's response is that she would 'put down' the older wolfdogs. This is when Sarah told us "this is when you see me putting more posts about donations, events to donate". Well, I wanted to vomit hearing this. Should we take this as just Nancy running her mouth or serious? Sarah also included that if we asked Nancy about this 'remark' then Nancy would deny it. I am not including Sarah in this email because I do not truly know where she stands in regard to Nancy....although listening to her on Monday she will share what the two of them have talked about. I will stand by this statement though because I feel that as an incredible hypocritical, self serving, demented attitude to her 'rescue animals.'
With that said, here we go with 'another caretaker that Nancy will micro manage and run into the ground or submission'.....in no way do I feel that she has the best interest of the dogs or people involved. Heard nasty little stories about how she was willing to let you go Sharon after that whole Alison F. ordeal(via Sarah H.). After 3 years volunteering I am shocked FMF has lasted as long as it has....she truly has a difficult and dysfuntional time dealing with people. If it comes to me telling this all to Nancy I WILL but hope this will be in confidentiality. I truly care about sooooo many of the animals out there. I also want to be present if 'the shit hits the fan' and she is eauthanizing animals and dispersing the rest to rally for their defense.
Even though I talked personally with today James, I wanted to say THANK YOU again for giving the last year of your Life to FMF. I believe you had the wolfdogs best interest in your heart at all times and your vision for their better livelihood is inspiring. You could not have been a better caretaker and any rescue organization will be so fortunate to have your love, dedication and work ethic:) I look forward to seeing you volunteering at FMF, hopefully for many years to come my friend!
#101 Consumer Suggestion
Nothing ventured nothing gained
AUTHOR: Katelynn - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
I do not understand why these employees/former employees Board of directors would say these things if it were not true. What have they to gain from this?
I have read the reports and first hand testimonies from
these people on the Face Book page located here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Truth-About-Full-Moon-Farm-in-Black-Mountain-NC/467670526581380
Undeniable facts that these animals are and have been for some time now living in horrific conditions.
Maybe not all of them, but even if just one of them is suffering I have a problem with that.
I am going on record right now, that some of the reports on Full Moon Farm that have been posted here on the Rip Off Report are in fact Nancy LaPorta Brown writing her own testimonials and commending the farm.
I am and will continue to be vocal to help these animals, and I ask everyone else to do the same.
I am sure that this does not even scratch the surface and it is my prayer that there will be a full investigation into Ms. Brown. If there is nothing to hide she wouldnt have a problem with that would she?
Kate
#102 General Comment
This is a Personal Vendetta
AUTHOR: Kat Wolfdancer - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
In that twelve year span, she has been a wealth of support and education, and a true friend. She has repeatedly gone *above and beyond* to help in placing animals, transporting animals, rescuing animals, and fighting unfair breed-and-species specific legislation against the private ownership of animals. In those twelve years, I have also met in person many people who have been to Full Moon Farm, often at *unscheduled* visits. I have seen -and have saved- many many gigs of pictures of the animals and people whom Nancy has helped.
The Wolfdog Community is a closed one, and its' members share certain emotional strengths and weaknesses, as do all human Communities. Mostly thanks to the Animal Rights agenda, many people seem wont to believe that "No-one can do it as well as they themselves can", and/or "If they could not *do it* than no-one should be allowed to try" In rescue, many failed rescuers get trapped in a "Beat Cop's Mentality", where, when all you see is Bad Things, you begin to feel as if the world is bad all over. Mr Landreth has personal issues to deal with, and apparently, has decided an unwarranted attack against one of the few good Wolfdog Rescues in the nation is the best way to "Make a name for himself", as well as exact revenge for his dismissal. This often happens when persons have little control over their own lives, they feel they must attack and rise on the backs of the those they slaughter -in this case via character assassination- to have control once more. In Mr Landreth's case, he is willing to destroy an organization which has worked tirelessly to positively impact the lives of unwanted, condemned, or abandoned wolfdogs for no better reason than he was oredered off the property and relieved of his Caretaker duties as a result of his neglectful behavior. This is how he would take his revenge: by maligning the Organization with absolute lies and political spin.
I have spoken for too many years to too many people who have been there personally to believe any of this complaint against Full Moon Farm. I believe this is a personal vendetta, and would urge anyone who has questions NOT to believe anything this Mr Landreth or Michelle (Last name not provided) have to say, but rather to contact Nancy Brown herself, or better, to schedule an appointment and go see for yourself.
#103 General Comment
Utter Nonsense
AUTHOR: Karen - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
Nancy never stops taking care of the animals even though she is spread very thin. Her care is beyond almost any rescue I have ever been around. That includes other breeds.
His statements are total lies and I can not believe anything this man has to say after reading this nonsense.
#104 Consumer Comment
Disagree
AUTHOR: WRR - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
#105 General Comment
My interaction with FMF
AUTHOR: Richard - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
I have visited FMF several times over the past 5 years and had numerous lengthy conversations with Nancy Brown. I have also visited numerous other Wolfdog rescue facilities in the 25 years I have been involved with Wolfdogs. No Canine rescue facility is perfect and this goes for the highly funded HSUS ones as well. Wolfdog rescue facilities do amazingly well
considering the extreme lack of interest from the public, lack of funds from any outlet, and large target on your back from helping a controversial breed. My findings at FMF have been that they house more animals than nearly any other
facility. Despite this and small staff, the animals seem very well adjusted, healthy, well fed, and happy. Many are even very social, which is actually not common involving Wolfdogs that enter the rescue system due to the fact that
Wolfdogs usually only bond with one person or family and usually come from neglect on top of that. This facility does better than most I have seen housing less than the animals with 3 times the staff.
Addressing individual issues cited..FMF is a 501 non profit licensed facility. USDA/APHIS licensing is not required for Wolfdogs as the federal government classifies them as dogs. I have known other facilities that were licensed despite this and were inspected regularly, and passed with much less containment and nearly no social animals on site. Obtaining this license means little and adds more expense to these rescue facilities that operate primarily in the red and out of the owners pocket anyway. As for feeding neglect, I have not witnessed an underfed animal there that had not just arrived in from a
neglectful environment. Feeding raw meat to Wolfdogs is a very common practice as their protein requirements can be different than other breeds. I have not seen moldy kibble in her food storage or in the animals enclosures. In fact, I
was there when a large shipment came in and helped stack bags of sealed unopened kibble. As for vet care, I have seen the vet there during social visits as well as performing treatments and spoken with her.
I know unless you stay on site at a particular facility 24 hours a day, you will never know everything for sure. This is why we have a system to monitor complaints with local Animal Control Officers that have visited and have not found the above accusations to be credible. I havent witnessed any of the FMF animals in dire needs or suffering. In fact, they all
seem quite happy. Shutting a facility like this down would be for purely personal gain and vindictive reasons. FMF is one of the few educational rescue facilities left for Wolfdogs. Removing this would result in the death of all at that site and leave countless others to suffer the same fate. A real rescuer or person whom cares about the welfare of animals would not target such places with actions like this. They would instead, open their own facility or partner with one that had the items they feel make them better, and take in all the animals first to ensure their safety.
#106 UPDATE EX-employee responds
No Shame On You
AUTHOR: James L. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
And you say you know so much, but you have not mentioned the 3 levels of Full Moon Farm, you have not fed the animals, tried to seek medical care for them...sat beside them as they took their last HARD breath but I have and so have many others....so SHAME ON YOU!
Try asking some questions, and getting straight answers....there are none nor are their vet records stating that these dogs were humanly euthanized. I was there...you were not!
#107 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sue and Vickie
AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 31, 2012
#108 Consumer Comment
Full moon is A Wonderful place
AUTHOR: Vicki Spencer - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 30, 2012
As far as vet care you say they do not get it but then post photos about all the vet care and surgeries they have been given. They can not all be saved and cancer takes people as well. The point is they are not allowed to suffer and are given medical care . Any one who deals with rescue and even those who have a lot of personal pets will do some of their own basic medical care which saves the money for things that only a vet can do. I have to say also I have been at the farm when the vet has been there so we can put those accusations to rest right now as well.
This woman Nancy is well respected in her town and she is open to visitors and not behind a gate as you put it. Anyone is welcome to visit to see that the words in this complaint are just words of slander & anger. i certainly hope Nancy will consdier a suit against you for slander because your lies are in writing
I hope anyone who reads this and has any doubt about Full moon farm would just simply take the time to visit and then nothing more would need to be said. nancy has a big heart and would have a much easier life without taking in everyones discarded pets. It really upsets me that anyone would accuse her of making money from these animals that is almost laughable to even think that could happen when you are caring for this many animals.I guess some people love their little dream world inside their heads.
Nancy always has volunteers but with a labor of love such as this I am sure there is never quite as much help as she would like . But I can gaurantee you if there ever is a day when there is not help at the farm Nancy will see to it that before she eats or settles in for the night every single animal will be fed, watered and given anything it needs for the evening even if she has to do it all herself.
I do not know who you are James but I DO know who Nancy is and shame on YOU!!!
#109 Consumer Comment
A regular FMF visitor responds...
AUTHOR: Sue - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 30, 2012
I've been visiting Full Moon Farm since 2002. I usually get out there at least once or twice a year; some years it's more.
While they DO have around 80 animals to care for (!) --and that says volumes about how little commitment many people have towards their pets--in my experience that's about the only accurate thing in the complaint.
This reads right out of a script: "not providing adequate food, water, shelter, kenneling or vet care". It's like the person was only trying to generate legal fodder.
My personal experience there is in sharp contrast with this. The animals there are fed daily, have always had clean water in their buckets when I have visited, and show evidence of this proper care by their good weights and healthy physiques. I never see a malnourished looking dog there, unless it just came in as a surrender. The animals are fed a mix of kibble and raw meat; the raw meat is necessary for most wolfdogs and the kibble is used to supplement because let's face it, most rescues run on a shoestring budget and can't afford to feed 100% raw. Since I've been "around" the farm so long, when I come, I often pitch in and distribute kibble or help with other chores; the food is kept in sealed containers in a shed, and I've never seen moldy kibble lying around.
Each animal has at least a doghouse; some of the bigger enclosures offer more elaborate play/shelter structures. (I'm not sure what "adequate kenneling" means.)
As we both work within in the wolfdog rescue and education network, I speak with Nancy regularly and it seems they are *always* having the vet out for something. This one needs shots, that new one was neutered, this one's acting "off"--could you have a look at him, and so on. Most dog rescues do try to learn some basic vet tech stuff for themselves, but the vet is a regular visitor at this rescue and, I'm quite sure, could and would give an excellent reference.
FMF does have quite a few seniors, who are allowed to live out their lives as long as they have some *quality* of life and are not in pain. She works hand in hand with the vet to determine when it's "their time to go", and the dogs are then euthanised professionally. Again, I have been there personally for at least one or two of these, and been on the phone with her at other times while she was at the vet's, putting an old or ill one to sleep.
The vast majority of the residents are spayed or neutered; those too old, ill, or otherwise compromised are given a spayed/neutered animal as a companion, and to my knowledge there has never been an "accident". The containments are secure and up-to-par. They don't have a problem with escapes, nor with neighbour complaints for any other reason. As far as the temperaments of the animals is concerned, most come from poor backgrounds and are not bulletproof "pets"...pet animals don't belong in sanctuary; sanctuaries take the "tough cases". If people who don't understand canine behaviour make mistakes, an undersocialised wolf-content animal is likely to respond with a fear nip or with obnoxious behaviour. This is WHY pens are so secure, and why there are signs posted on the animals with poor social skills. That said...there are very few animals there I would be afraid to go in with, even alone. The same goes for many of the volunteers, who know the drill and do pen chores, take dogs for walks, and give love and attention. (There are photos and videos all over the internet of people having positive interactions with the dogs at the Farm.)
The comment about diverting funds was especially amusing. Like most animal rescuers, Nancy supports the Farm by giving up most of her own small income to it! A rescue is not a money-making operation; almost all of us operate in the red. That's why donations are always so welcome; they can make the difference between the owner going broke or the dogs having regular new toys, treats, and such.
As to licensing, no license is required to help dogs in North Carolina. (Since puppymills ARE licensed under USDA and the misery they inflict is sanctioned by the government, that should give you an idea how useful the licensing would be, regardless...but that's another soap box.)
One last bit to ponder. Even if any of this had been accurate, if animals WERE removed from Full Moon Farm, they have nowhere else to go. Let me repeat that...almost all of the animals at FMF are there because *no one else would take them*. If dogs are taken from any sanctuary on the notion that things could be "more perfect" elsewhere (and of course they could--if you only have two or three dogs, each will always get more attention and resources than if you care for 30, or 80!), you need to HAVE that "more perfect" place to take them to available.
This whole complaint is pretty transparent, as an unfounded personal attack.
Anybody who actually does anything worthwhile with their life is going to have enemies, so I guess it's no surprise that Nancy's finally got a disgruntled ex-employee who will go out of his way to cause problems. It's really disappointing, though, how people who profess to "love" animals will take personal vendettas out in ways that cause animals harm. :( Even minutes wasted on replying to ridiculous stunts like this take time away from the animals...for Nancy, and for others who have been to her place and have to write in to set the record straight.
I encourage anyone who's concerned to take a tour of the Farm and see for themselves. While you're at it, offer a little help with the chores, give a social wolfdog some attention, maybe donate some new stuffed toys or a squeaky ball. The wolfdogs will love you for it, and it's much better karma than taking out your grievances on the animals.
#110 UPDATE EX-employee responds
The Truth About Full Moon Farm
AUTHOR: James L. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 30, 2012
My name is James Landreth and due to recent events at FMF I felt the need to tell what I have witnessed at the Farm....First i would like to address the issue of medicine..Ms.Brown did and still does self medicate the animals at the Farm without first taking them to the vet or have a vet come out to examine them,most of the med's are out of date and are in unsealed containers or bottles. She has also tried to euthenize animals that were sick and dying with ketamine and other meds that she has gotten from friends as she does not have a license to purchase them herself, case in point..Chance was an older animal at the farm who was almost 17 years old and his health was really bad,Ms.Brown tried to help him pass with an overdose of ketamine but it did not work,I thought he was going to suffocate to death but he did not and I had to take him the next morning to the vet to have him euthenized..She also has a dart gun,darts and the meds for them that she uses on occasions to sedate animals at the Farm or friends animals,to my knowledge she does not have a license to purchase or the training to use the dart gun and medicine's...She wanted me to take a class and be certified to use the dart gun but she never followed through with it......Next the animals at the Farm...The animals at the Farm do not have a vet that see's them on a regular basis,the only time a vet is scheduled is to give rabies shots to all the animals..Unless there is an emergency that they have to go to the vet then Ms.Brown takes care of it herself even though she is not a vet and is not certified to do so...Many animals have hot spots and skin issues that goes unnoticed and the mats and fur issues never get resolved.If she does treat the skin issues it is usually with Ivomec and anti-biotics and a vet is never called to look at them..Tumors and growths are never addressed and are often dismissed and again a vet is never consulted about them..Heartworm tests and medicines to prevent heartworms are not a priority as they are 83 animals on the property and as Ms.Brown said "too expensive to deal with" ..end quote.!! The high conternt enclosures are never cleaned or mowed due to the fact they cannot be handled and grass and weeds gets as high as 4 ft or more and stays that way till cold weather kills it and is trampled down by the animals. ......... My name is James Landreth and I was the caretaker for Full Moon Farm for almost a year before I left due to these issues and the constant verbal assault and mood swings by Ms.Brown. In the end it is all about taking care and seeing that these animals are given the best life possible and in my opinion that is not the case as long as Ms.Brown is allowed to run and operate the Sanctuary....
Sincerely,
James D.Landreth Jr.
#111 Author of original report
Statement from another person from Full Moon Farm
AUTHOR: AnimalKnight - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 30, 2012

