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Complaint Review: Full Moon Farms Wolfdog Sanctuary

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  • Submitted: Wed, May 30, 2012
  • Updated: Sun, October 21, 2012

  • Reported By: Michelle — L United States of America
Full Moon Farms Wolfdog Sanctuary
39 Full moon trail Black Mountain, North Carolina United States of America

Full Moon Farms Wolfdog Sanctuary Animal abuse scam Black Mountain, North Carolina

*Consumer Comment: Buncombe County Sheriff and AC & Black Mtn.Police Departments in Nancy's Pocket.

*Consumer Comment: WOW!

*Consumer Comment: Think those of us who think comments about Full Moon Farms

*Consumer Comment: Michele S.----You are just as bad if not worse !

*General Comment: Goodbye and Good Ridance

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE...Michele(Nancy) & Trey

*Consumer Comment: Wolfdog People Beware - Agree + More

*Consumer Comment: Look forward to that day

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE..Refuge Ridge

*General Comment: Wolfdog People Beware

*Consumer Comment: Words are more dangerous often than physical violence

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE.. Wolfdog rescue

*Consumer Comment: Please James stay where you are

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE..Michele

*General Comment: Here's the Problem James

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE.. Wolfdog rescue

*General Comment: Here's the Problem James

*Consumer Comment: Please stop these attacks

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE..Michele

*General Comment: Tragic and Heart-Breaking

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE...

*Consumer Comment: To those who are attacking Full Moon Farms

*General Comment: James and N. Rogers ATTN

*Consumer Comment: Wolflover

*Consumer Comment: Sad and Dangerous Response

*Consumer Comment: Sad and disgusting

*Consumer Comment: Seriously?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE...

*Consumer Comment: Ouestions that need to be answered

*Consumer Comment: Re: Karen

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re..Karen

*General Comment: Reply to James

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE: Michele

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re...

*General Comment: Appreciate Nancy and FMF

*General Comment: A Question of Credibility

*General Comment: Wolfdogs come before your personal problems

*General Comment: Avoiding the question doesn't help at all.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Placements and Adoptions

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE...

*Consumer Comment: The truth is

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re..Michele or Nancy..???

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Iceman

*General Comment: The Bottom Line ,again

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Wonderful in what way?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: reputations

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: who?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re... Jerry

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Not so

*General Comment: full moon farm

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: walk in our shoes

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re...

*Consumer Comment: Bottom line?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE..WoW !!

*Consumer Comment: Re:Full Moon Farm Receive Excellent Health Care

*General Comment: Full Moon Farm Receive Excellent Health Care

*Consumer Comment: Praying for Nancy and the animals at Full Moon Farm

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re..Michele

*General Comment: A Wonderful Sanctuary is Being Attacked

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re: TO: Alleged Former Volunteer

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re: TO: Alleged Former Volunteer

*General Comment: TO: Alleged Former Volunteer

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Former Volunteer

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE: LOL....

*General Comment: Angry Man

*UPDATE Employee: Re: Cheryl and wolfie....

*UPDATE Employee: Re..wolfie and cheryl

*UPDATE Employee: my nose smells.... personal vandetta

*General Comment: You've Lost

*UPDATE Employee: RE: Cheryl B

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: ?? REALLY james ??

*Consumer Comment: Libel & Slander

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re...

*Consumer Comment: Shame on all of you for the slandering of this rescue

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Re...donations

*Consumer Comment: Donations

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: RE..WoW !!

*Consumer Comment: Expecting perfection by a human's standards?

*Consumer Comment: Ouch

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Dirty rider....

*Consumer Comment: Re: Of Course

*Consumer Comment: Howlin

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Of course...

*Consumer Comment: My observations at Howl In yesterday

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Fuzzy godmother..!!!

*Consumer Comment: You have no idea

*General Comment: Not easy running a rescue

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Character Assassination

*Consumer Comment: If this is true!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Via former employee member of the board

*General Comment: I see Personal Vendetta

*Consumer Comment: Are you serious?

*Consumer Comment: Re: Character assasination

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Character Assassination

*Consumer Comment: Re: Character assasination

*Consumer Comment: Birds of a feather "Kat"

*Consumer Comment: I call BS

*Consumer Comment: Character Assassination

*General Comment: understanding

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Kat....

*Consumer Suggestion: Nothing ventured nothing gained

*General Comment: This is a Personal Vendetta

*General Comment: Utter Nonsense

*Consumer Comment: Disagree

*General Comment: My interaction with FMF

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: No Shame On You

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Sue and Vickie

*Consumer Comment: Full moon is A Wonderful place

*Consumer Comment: A regular FMF visitor responds...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The Truth About Full Moon Farm

*Author of original report: Statement from another person from Full Moon Farm

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The owner Nancy Brown is not caring for the 80+ wolfdogs in the sanctuary. She is not providing adequate food, water, shelter, kenneling or vet care. She is thousands in debt to the feed store and feeds the dogs old raw meat and moldy kibble. When the dogs get sick she kills them herself. The cages that the dogs live in are too small and filthy and not secure. Many of the 80+ wolfdogs are vicious and not able to be handled. the dogs do not get vaccinations, worming spayed or neutered. 

Ms. Brown is the only one caring for all of these animals. All of her volunteers have left. Ms Brown endangers the public every time she brings these animals out for a "petting zoo" and there has already been several bite reports. 

Ms Brown solicits donations for the care of the animals but this money does not got to the animals but directly into her personal bank account. [continued below]....
..... Many donors have never gotten requested receipts.

Ms. Brown runs this sanctuary unlicensed by any government agency (USDA DOA ) there is no oversite on the health and safety of this facility. 

My group is contacting every animal organization we can to try and get the animals removed from this terrible situation. We are reporting her here so that the world can know what really goes on behind the gates at full moon farm


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#1 Consumer Comment

Buncombe County Sheriff and AC & Black Mtn.Police Departments in Nancy's Pocket.

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)

"GOOD DAY.
WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU NEWS WHICH IN ITS SELF YOU WOULD BE UNAWARE OF.
WE HAVE LEARNED THAT NANCY BROWN DOES HAVE THE ABOVE POLICE AND SHERIFF DEPARTMENTS RELAYING COMPLAINTS AND PEOPLE'S NAMES TO HER. DO NOT FILE COMPLAINTS WITH BCSD AND BMPD. FORWARD ANY COMPLAINTS TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND ADA.   **"We don't forgive, We don't forget, United as one, Divided by zero, Expect us.!    HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND!
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#2 Consumer Comment

WOW!

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)

Wow Michele, no I mean Nancy. I promised myself to stay away from this page because of the drama, but another volunteer told me of Nancy's comment about James. Nancy I have known you for many years on and off the Farm, but this comment sounds more like you than it does James. I thought you said you were not a vindictive person Nancy, this sure looks like an axe to grind to me. A lot of volunteers and people looked up to you but now you will be lucky if you see me again. Get a life and morals Nancy, James has moved on, got married and forgot about you! Do all of us a favor and do the same while continuing to fix the many problems at the Farm. Omg, your comment really has pissed me off ! Grow the f**k up Nancy!
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#3 Consumer Comment

Think those of us who think comments about Full Moon Farms

AUTHOR: Refuge Ridge - (USA)

are slander pure and simple would help her more to ignore this and the unsigned posts on the Facebook. page. People addicted to drama thrive on creating turmoil and strife. I have found that their impact is limited if people simply ignore their comments. It is obvious by the helpfuls and not helpfuls that Nancy has many supporters and a limited number of detractors. It is a shame that a site like this even exists but it is not the only one. It is disheartening to read some of the comments designed to hurt FullMoon Farms that will if allowed to fester will end up hurting the animals most of all. As a refuge this has been an eye opener as to how some people can be. Maybe that is the good that comes out of something like this. I appreciate Full Moon Farms and Nancy as she was an advisor when we started Refuge Ridge. I wish them the very best.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Michele S.----You are just as bad if not worse !

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)

Michele,  I am a volunteer at FMF, I am still volunteering and taking care of the animals. I have followed this report from the beginning and from the looks of it dear, you are the psychotic one!  Your attacks and accounts of James's activity's and work are 100% false. I know when you started volunteering and there is no way you were privy to this information unless Nancy told you.  I am sick at the things you have said, What did he ever do to you ?  You forgot to mention Nancy taking $1000.00 from you to board your animals at the Farm for the 2 1/2 wks during your family emergency !  I do not agree with all of  James's and the other volunteers actions, but that does not give you the right to spread lies about him.  Answer some questions Michele-- How long have you known James and Lisa ? Did he tell you when and why he was leaving ? When was the last time you were at the Farm ? Why did you go crying to him when Nancy yelled at you?  If this is all about the animals, why are you attacking him at every turn ?  The final question is, Why haven't you provided proof of all the claims against James ?  I am starting to believe that you have been lying and manipulating every one here, or Michele has no clue her name is being used and the comments are Nancy.  Enough with the drama and lies, help us at the Farm and stop the comments, or I will make sure you never step foot on the Farm again!   PS-- How do you think the animals will react to all of your negative energy and hostility? Please answer the questions carefully,I already know the answers!
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#5 General Comment

Goodbye and Good Ridance

AUTHOR: Michele - (United States of America)

What a relief to know that James has finally decided to stop these awful sick rants. And may God protect the wolfdogs he encounters.
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#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds

RE...Michele(Nancy) & Trey

AUTHOR: James - (USA)

That was a very good and thought out letter Nancy(Michele),but to try and take the heat off you for your animal abuse and theft of funds and shift it onto me is quite devious even for you.!! I do not have to prove myself to anyone,and still trying to ban me from the wolfdog community is getting real old. I will have my own sanctuary soon,so why would it matter what others think of me or why should I care?  I don't, my true friends who know the truth will always be there,so again your lying and hateful self shows through.    And Trey, If you are referring to the new page my friend,I have already told you I am not a part anymore.  It is out of my hands and will not be commenting on pages nor do I care who does.  Nancy, with all the time and effort you have spent keeping your name off this report,and all the time you have been on here commenting, don't you think it would have been better spent taking care of the animals and fixing the many problems at the Farm?  But you do not care as evident in your life and your care of the animals.  So from now on say what you will Nancy and everyone,just remember this thread and your comments next time anything happens to the animals at the Farm, I tried to warn all of you!   Thank You and Goodbye 
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#7 Consumer Comment

Wolfdog People Beware - Agree + More

AUTHOR: wolflover2 - (USA)

Yesterday was the 10th Anniversary Party for FMF.  It was a great success.  James and his co-conspirators immediately put up a facebook page attacking Nancy and creating false messages.   These people are mentally unstable and do not belong anywhere any animals:  4 legged and 2 legged.
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#8 Consumer Comment

Look forward to that day

AUTHOR: Refuge Ridge - (USA)

I will look forward to that day. There is such a need for refuges that it is good to hear that another is about to be born. Sending wishes for all to come together soon.
Sincerely,
Marty @ Refuge Ridge
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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

RE..Refuge Ridge

AUTHOR: James - (USA)

Thank you and blessings to you and your's...it is not easy and I understand what you are saying and what is involved.!! That is why I will no longer be commenting and trying to make people understand why this has been brought forth,I agree the negative energy has shown through in my comments and it has to stop.  Once my sanctuary is up and running, you will be invited to see first hand..Thank you.!!
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#10 General Comment

Wolfdog People Beware

AUTHOR: Michele - (United States of America)

In my opinion, James Landreth appears to be a sketchy individual with a checkered past and some heavy-duty psychological issues. He is aggressive and confrontational and thrives on dissension. He is likely to disrupt any community which allows him access. He has a track record for using and manipulating people who are attracted to him and the list of those he has wronged is long and growing.

As an employee, he is unprofessional, disrespectful, untrustworthy and self-serving -- almost to the point of psychopathy. In order to achieve his objectives, there is no line he will not cross -- legal, moral or otherwise. He has little regard for the well-being of those in his care and has proven to be compulsive liar as well as a thief. [His criminal record is extensive and should be examined very carefully by anyone considering him as a potential employee.]

His attacks on Full Moon Farm are vicious, recklessly irresponsible and completely unsubstantiated. In these reports, he has been asked many times to explain his motives for attacking his former employer, Nancy Brown, a devoted and reputable wolfdog rescuer who has saved hundreds of wolfdogs from unspeakable abuse and neglect since founding Full Moon Farm. In every instance, James has consistently refused to provide any justification or proof for his attacks. Instead, he berates and belittles all those who ask for clarification or questioned him in any way.

His actions do not support his claims to care about the well-being of wolfdogs. Even though he has been told not to slander Nancy Brown or undermine her rescue efforts for the sake of the animals, he persists without a thought for what might happen to the current canine residents of FMF should his efforts to close down their sanctuary succeed. He doesn't have the resources to provide any of them with better homes or any homes at all for that matter. This doesn't appear to concern him much, but it does concerns all of those who sincerely care for these vulnerable animals.
 
Thanks to his vitriolic and ill-considered attacks in these reports, James is finally acquiring a well-deserved reputation as a trouble-maker. His acerbic responses to those who are sincerely concerned with the welfare of the animals living at FMF and who question the accuracy of his attacks in these reports, stand for themselves.

In conclusion, James should not be allowed to have anything more to do with wolfdog rescue. The animals we love are already very vulnerable due to the ignorance of the many people who don't know what wonderful creatures they are and who fear them. As a community, we must do all we can to protect them and those, like Nancy Brown, who continue to do their best to rescue them.
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#11 Consumer Comment

Words are more dangerous often than physical violence

AUTHOR: Refuge Ridge - (USA)

 I would really like to see those that are carrying on this tirade against Full Moon Farms go on to establish reputable sanctuaries. It is not as easy as it looks from the outside. The words that have been written and the manner that the attacks have been carried on certainly enable me to understand why many sanctuaries would not want to have that type of energy around the people there or the animals. I send well wishes and prayers to Nancy-also to those that have issued words about becoming good rescues that they do indeed turn their words into reality putting good energy out into the wolf-dog world. Words can truly be weapons when sent forth as attacks and retribution.
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#12 UPDATE EX-employee responds

RE.. Wolfdog rescue

AUTHOR: James - (USA)

Hahahahaha...funny how my name is out there for all to see and you choose to hide and make snide comments and do nothing.!!!  I do not make snap decisions on people but you really show me what a true idiot is all about..choosing to hide behind a computer with your fake name giving out advise when you have no clue to the truth..!!!  

And if I knew who you were then I would gladly steer clear of your rescue and stay away from you.!!  BTW..when my rescue and sanctuary is up and running, I will show you and others what a true sanctuary is all about my friend. !! PS...If your not willing to find out the truth, it's best you say nothing at all...kinda looks like a vendetta against me..!!!
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#13 Consumer Comment

Please James stay where you are

AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)

I certainly would not want you around my animals- you are the piece of work.
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#14 UPDATE EX-employee responds

RE..Michele

AUTHOR: James - (USA)

As I have proven and stated before, Nancy did not fire me, I quit because of Nancy and her actions or lack thereof...so for you to keep using the same tired excuse as to why you are attacking me lends no credibility to your words..!!  Furthermore, your lack of involvement and volunteering at the Farm for over 2 months now tells me you either believe what is true or you have no desire to actually look after and help these animals.  I have stated if you want the truth and explanations to call me and I will gladly discuss the issue with you, but for me to put it on here for all to read would tip our hand and not help the animals at all...!!!   Since you really only know what you are told and have no concept of the truth about me and or the farm, you and others are only grasping at straws and trying to hurt me and others...!!  Go ahead with your rantings and ravings about how great Nancy is, but when more animals die and the others are suffering, maybe then you will ask yourself why didn't I find out the truth and do more to help save these animals.  Goodbye Michele
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#15 General Comment

Here's the Problem James

AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)

HERE'S THE PROBLEM JAMES:

Nancy Brown fired you because she didn't think you were doing an adequate job. It's understandable that you left with a chip on your shoulder. You have a clear motive for lashing out at her. Unless you can demonstrate that you have good reasons for attacking Full Moon Farm, there is no reason for anyone to believe your attacks are anything but a personal vendetta.

This, coupled with your reluctance to divulge your side of the story, is probably why 90% of those who read these reports are indicating that your submissions lack credibility.

PLEASE CLARIFY YOUR SIDE: The best way for you to earn credibility is to present your side clearly and unambiguously. This is the only way those reading these reports can judge for themselves whether or not your stated desire to close down a badly needed wolfdog rescue facility with an excellent reputation is justified or not.

If you have the integrity to present your position, I (and probably others) will give you my full attention. If your side of the story is reasonable, I (and many others who have been defending Nancy Brown) may finally understand your point of view.

If you don't present your side of the story, how can you continue to berate and belittle those of us who question your attacks on, what we believe to be, a valuable resource for wolfdogs?
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#16 UPDATE EX-employee responds

RE.. Wolfdog rescue

AUTHOR: James - (USA)

I understand about being cautious and careful with volunteers, but if you are a reputable rescue and sanctuary and are doing everything right by the animals then you have nothing to be worried about..!!! All i hear is excuses for Nancy's behavior and actions, and the fact that you and others have not asked to hear the other side of the story just reaffirms that you do not want the truth. If you knew me and met me that would be different but you have not and have based decisions on hearsay and lies from Nancy Brown.  I do not make assumptions about any one or there sanctuaries unless i visit or have met you.!!  Talk about small minded thinking and ideas...!!!  You people are quite a piece of work..!!!
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#17 General Comment

Here's the Problem James

AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)

HERE'S THE PROBLEM JAMES:

Nancy Brown fired you because she didn't think you were doing an adequate job. It's understandable that you left with a chip on your shoulder. You have a clear motive for lashing out at her. Unless you can demonstrate that you have good reasons for attacking Full Moon Farm, there is no reason for anyone to believe your attacks are anything but a personal vendetta.

This, coupled with your reluctance to divulge your side of the story, is probably why 90% of those who read these reports are indicating that your submissions lack credibility.

PLEASE CLARIFY YOUR SIDE: The best way for you to earn credibility is to present your side clearly and unambiguously. This is the only way those reading these reports can judge for themselves whether or not your stated desire to close down a badly needed wolfdog rescue facility with an excellent reputation is justified or not.

If you have the integrity to present your position, I (and probably others) will give you my full attention. If your side of the story is reasonable, I (and many others who have been defending Nancy Brown) may finally understand your point of view.

If you don't present your side of the story, how can you continue to berate and belittle those of us who question your attacks on, what we believe to be, a valuable resource for wolfdogs?
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#18 Consumer Comment

Please stop these attacks

AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)

I cannot help but be influenced in my opinion of those writing the mean and hateful words against Full Moon Farms. This is painful to watch. I have a refuge-I am at a point I cannot take any more wolf-dogs. We have a good reputation and have done good work with the animals and education.  Many of the things that Nancy has been accused of are the best practices ex: taking some of our animals to the vet would prove very stressful. 

Your writings have made me wary of each of  you-I have to question your intentions. That also is sad because I have until the last year or so been very open to having volunteers. You have validated my decision to concentrate on education instead of rescue. The animals I have will live with me until they transition. I dare say I am not the only person you have convinced there is too much potential for unfounded attacks. 

I would also think that any refuge any of you have visited will be wary of you after all of this.
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RE..Michele

AUTHOR: James - (USA)

No Michele...the bottom line and sad part is that all of you are so narrow minded and have only one side of the story. Again your comments prove that if you were really about the animals as you say you would find out the truth from both sides. I find it really arrogant that you and others think and believe you know it all when it comes to Nancy Brown and the Farm,but until you have worked as a caretaker and busted your a** 24/7 to take care of these animals and make life better and end up being shot down at every attempt to help the animals then you will never fully understand.... You and others keep saying revenge but none of you are willing to find out and support what you are saying...!! Believe what you will, in the end the truth and lies will be exposed and the animals will be taken care of regardless of your help or not..     
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#20 General Comment

Tragic and Heart-Breaking

AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)

As a wolfdog owner, I'm overcome with sadness that Nancy Brown and her wonderful Full Moon Farm wolfdog rescue are still under attack by the small but persistent group of irresponsible thugs out to hurt Nancy because of personal grudges that have nothing to do with the actual conditions of wolfdogs at FMF. These folks are so fired up with hate that they haven't stopped to think of what will happen to the 80 odd wolfdogs currently residing at FMF. They are so angry that they forget about the 100s of wolfdogs she has rescued and they don't think of what will happen to all the others wolfdogs she could rescue if not for this. This is nothing short of tragic.

The saddest consequence of the misguided attacks on FMF is that wolfdogs will lose a valuable asset and more will suffer and die without hope because there are not enough wolfdog rescues by far. The good ones, like Full Moon Farm, with proven track records, are so desperately needed. Anyone who has seen an abused or abandoned wolfdog arriving at FMF are filled to overflowing with gratitude for Nancy's sincere devotion and hard work.

Nancy's attackers are so driven by hurt feelings and wild emotions that they have not taken a moment to realize that if Full Moon Farm gets closed down, close to 80 wolfdogs will be made homeless and all or most will be euthanized.

This entire scandal is a tragedy for wolfdog owners like me who have had nothing but positive encounters with Nancy Brown. I have visited Full Moon Farm many times and I never saw a lack of clean water and good quality food. No reasonable person can deny that Nancy is passionate about wolfdog rescue and that she has devoted her entire life to the effort.

Bottom Line: Wolfdogs will suffer as a direct consequence of these irresponsible attacks. As a wolfdog owner, this is one of the saddest things I have witnessed for the wolfdog community. I wish there was more I could do to save the residents of Full Moon Farm from these reckless attackers.
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#21 UPDATE EX-employee responds

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AUTHOR: James - (USA)

First off,Karen it did seem like a threat to me,but the fact of you not having a clue what Nancy is doing and not doing really puts you in the dark. You people only go by what she tells you and not the fact I worked and saw what she has not done to properly care for these animals.  And to reply to the wolfdog rescue, you do not even know me and for you to say I am a bad person for bringing this to light, it really tells me how one sided you really are..step up and ask the questions and see for yourself and then you tell me before you say I am not about the animals.  I did everything for Nancy and this is the thanks I get for wanting to go on with my life.  Not one of you has called me to find out the other side of the story..why.??  I will tell you,because you do not want to think that Nancy is really doing what she has done. Step and and find out the truth or at least listen to both sides before you make a decision..I did and that's why I have not commented since july on this report,besides it is out of my hands and up to the courts now.  Really..the people I have met and seen in the wolfdog community I thought would want the truth but I guess you all are just to scared to find out for yourselves.  Besides why would I want to be with friends with you or volunteer at your sanctuary if you are not willing to find out the truth and help these animals.  You know how to contact me if you want the other side of the story, if not just continue to sit back and believe the lies. 
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#22 Consumer Comment

To those who are attacking Full Moon Farms

AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)

I have been seeing this for months. For the last time it is not easy running a refuge- It is easy to make negative comments when you are not the one having to make the tough decisions -showing up every now and then to "help". I can only say that I am sorry that Nancy has had to deal with you. I would not want you to volunteer at our refuge. Help like that is not needed. I hope this works out for Nancy and the animals soon. I just do not understand these vindictive attacks and lack of concern for the animals. Feel fortunate for those I have helping me. The attacks are senseless and just plain mean spirited.
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#23 General Comment

James and N. Rogers ATTN

AUTHOR: Karen - (United States of America)

First off N. Rogers and James- you sure can't read correctly.  Nancy is in North Carolina and I am in Oklahoma. There is no way it is the same ISP, therefore recheck your numbers.  

Secondly - I never threatened anyone nor will I do so.  At 70 I don't have a lot of patience for stupidity which the accusation stated I had done.  Nothing even close to threatening.  I have had it with all this nonsense.  I have known Nancy for many years and both of you appear to me to be troublemakers.    
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#24 Consumer Comment

Wolflover

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)

I am sorry to cause any trouble but my husband, a state trooper checked it out and it's true. I can not understand why they want to arrest Nancy ?  I am starting to think that some might be true or else the warrant would not have been issued. I have said enough, I will keep my thoughts and comments to myself. 
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#25 Consumer Comment

Sad and Dangerous Response

AUTHOR: wolflover2 - (USA)

Anonymous, please do not encourage these fools to respond.   They are demented.  Anything they say is absolute BS and not to be believed.   They are people of no conscience and no consequence.
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#26 Consumer Comment

Sad and disgusting

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)

It is unbelievable how low these people will go, I stumbled onto a blog where it says Nancy will be arrested and a raid conducted Sept.1. I am shocked to the point of disbelief that on a day Nancy is to be honored and praised that she will be arrested. Is this what you people have stooped to, to take away her dignity in front of all her wolfdog friends ?  Shameful and disgusting. 
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#27 Consumer Comment

Seriously?

AUTHOR: Dirt Bike Rider - (United States of America)

We are the ones you are trying to convince, but yet you can't tell us your plan?? Could that be because you don't have one?
We do want to know the truth that's why we are asking. And as far as drama goes, James it seems by all these posts that you Thrive on it. 
The lives of these animals are at stake, you have so much to say, but can't tell us what plan you have for these innocent lives? 
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AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

 To reply to your question Dirty Rider. No thank you. we will pass on that as everything is in place and will not mess it up just to satisfy the curiosity of a few!!  I'm done with these comments as I have better things to do besides arguing with ones who do not want the truth and thrive on drama. Goodbye!
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#29 Consumer Comment

Ouestions that need to be answered

AUTHOR: Dirt Bike Rider - (United States of America)

Lynda and James, both of you keep saying that it's about the animals and nothing personal against Nancy. Then why did you make this "Rip Off Report"???? Or if you didn't make it, why are you supporting it?

If you both have so much evidence then why didn't you both not go to the proper authorities and let them handle it???
 
Making public statements like this shows a personal vendetta, plain and simple. If you truly cared about those animals you would not have done this. You would have handled it differently, and let the authorities do their thing.
You have put the lives and the home of 74 wolfdogs danger.
So here's another question.
What plans do you have for the wolfdogs, once you get it shut down?
Name the Sanctuary's that are going to take them in. "We" the public want to know.  
Like I said my family and I have been there, and we saw nothing wrong, and I would hate to think that those beautiful animals will loose their homes and maybe face the threat euthanasia because of this whole fiasco. 
I'm sure FMF has already lost much needed donations because of this. I can't imagine what kind of money it takes to operate a Sanctuary of that size, much less the stress of these kind of accusations. You both can sit here and deny it all you want, but this is WRONG! And is not helping the animals a one bit! So answer the questions, and let us know your plan. 
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#30 Consumer Comment

Re: Karen

AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)

Dear Karen, is that a threat or a promise...........or should I say Nancy? NANCY BROWN aka KAREN & atleast 3 others writing these post. Gigs up, when people keep saying that your dead in the water it's time to lay down and let someone else take the lead.


NANCY, all of your comments are coming from the same ISP and have been tracked, so these threats are being turned over to the proper authorities. Good day Madam!

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Re..Karen

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

Karen....I knew it was only a matter of time before someone threatened me and now it is on here for all to see,I am not worried about you nor anyone else as my animals are very well taken care of and when I open my own sanctuary next year then you and everyone else will see... Funny that you think I am bashing fmf, when you have chosen not to get the full story. Go ahead as with everyone else and stick your head in the sand and chose to listen to one side.. Thank you for your comment..!!!
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#32 General Comment

Reply to James

AUTHOR: Karen - (United States of America)

James, your continued slamming of FMF has become more than nonsense.  You will accomplish nothing but closing FMF and killing the animals therein.  If you remember, and many commenting on this report, know that this type of slander caused wolfdogs to be outlawed in another county in NC.  Several died because of this type of action in that county.  I am disgusted with your continued slamming as are many others.  Either provide proper care for your animals or find yourself in the same situation that you are trying to put FMF into.  Take care of your own and please drop the constant slamming. you've chosen to leave FMF, therefore leave it.  
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RE: Michele

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

OK you have forced me to prove to you and others that you are just lying and are out for revenge,the following emails prove that I was not thrown off the property or did not take care of the animals but just the opposite...Lies are lies Michele,and the truth always show's through!!   EMAIL REGARDING JAMES DEPARTURE 

My Leaving...read from the bottom email to top!! Hello All. I just wanted to say what a pleasure it was to get to know each and every one of you. I will keep this short for obvious reasons.. Me and Lisa will be leaving tomorrow for good,after we do our chores and say our goodbyes to the wolfers we will be headed out. We love each and every one of you and will miss you...Thank You for everything!! Many blessings, 
James&Lisa
From: "jameslandreth
To: Nancy Browne
Cc: Sharon Greene 
Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 10:42:22 PM
Subject: Re: Things

I will know better in the next few days.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Nancy Brown" 
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:40:33 
To: <jameslandreth95@yahoo.com>
Cc: Sharon Greene; Jay Alcombright; Allison Frady; Mish Frankl; Sarah Hallback, Pam and Dave Michael Kim Tulloss-Smith
Subject: Re: Things

Effective date?

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From: <jameslandreth95@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:19 PM
To: "Nancy Brown"
Cc: "Sharon Greene" ; "Jay Alcombright" 
; "Allison Frady" ; 
"Mish Frankl" ; "Sarah Hallback" ; "Pam and Dave Michael" ; "Kim 
Tulloss-Smith"
Subject: Re: Things

> Dear Nancy and everyone here...It has taken me a few day's to write this,  I love the animals and you all so much and I thank each of you for all you  have given me and Lisa..with that said I resign as caretaker with the  deepest regret and sadness. Thank You All,
> James
> ------Original Message------
> To: Nancy Brown

> Subject: Re: Things
> Sent: Jun 25, 2011 9:53 AM
>
> Nancy...I wish that you would have sat and talked this out before this  post. James
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Nancy Brown
> To: jameslandreth
>
> Subject: Things
> Sent: Jun 25, 2011 5:35 AM
>
> June 25, 2011 Dear James, It has become apparent that your time with  Full Moon Farm is coming to an end. I have several requests of you: 1.)  Be professional. Enough of the Facebook posting. Every negative thing  you post affects the dogs. If it is about the dogs, then make it so.  2.) Advise me of the times you will be away from the property, the needs  of the animals, and your estimated date of departure. 3.) Continue to  perform your duties until your replacement can be found and trained. It  is my understanding that you are making arrangements to leave already.  4.) Full Moon Farm has been an incorporated business since 2002. We will  continue on. I am most appreciative of your service for the past 10  months, and only wish you well. As life goes on, we all know that people  and things change. I harbor no ill feelings, and wish you the best of 
> life in your next adventure. In gratitude, and in Peace. ~Nancy                                                                                                                        
And the last email from volunteers to me and others..If I was doing such a bad job why would they write this Michele..??  Another email  James TO:Kim Message flaggedThursday, June 30, 2011 8:37 PM Thank You so much for your kind words Kim..We will miss the Farm but not the crap that comes with it!!! I think that we will be searching other Rescues and Sanctuaries to give our time and talents too. It is very sad that one person can hurt and degrade others to the point they want to give up or leave!  It breaks my heart that these innocent animals have to suffer through all this..It just isn't right!!!  We will be around if you ever need us and we will not be strangers, Thank You Kim.. Many blessings ..:D   From: KimTo:Sent: Wed, June 29, 2011 9:19:46 PMSubject: James leaving!?   Hey guys.. just thought I would give a 'what the hell' out to you about James and Lisa leaving as caretakers. I know we have all been 'here' numerous times although this might be one of the first for Jay. I have not even called Nancy about this whole situation because I have come to feel so defeated when it applies to the Farm and people/ideas that have big ways of 'creating a business, getting all these animals into humane enclosures, working with socialization, adopting out very adoptable animals and so forth'. Have you noticed I did not include Nancy in on this email because well I would surely get banned and railed publicly and not feeling that aggro vibe in my Life. I think Dean and Ryan took sensible steps back out of frustration and lack of creating a big difference because of Nancy. She is truly her own worse enemy and completely self-sabotaging as a likable human, rescuer and business owner.  A little heads up. since the spring, Nancy has been talking to selected friends about shutting down FMF in Oct/Nov if 'things' do not improve. She has not said this to me personally because I do not call her anymore. I cannot hear the same crying, crispy story she has over and over. I will say here and on record what Sarah H. told me, James, Lisa and Sarah's girlfriend(Jess) this past Monday June 27,2011 when talking about this subject. I asked Sarah what in the world would nancy do with all 80 some dogs if she shuts down?? She told me that she has asked Nancy that same question and that one of Nancy's response is that she would 'put down' the older wolfdogs. This is when Sarah told us "this is when you see me putting more posts about donations, events to donate". Well, I wanted to vomit hearing this. Should we take this as just Nancy running her mouth or serious? Sarah also included that if we asked Nancy about this 'remark'  then Nancy would deny it. I am not including Sarah in this email because I do not truly know where she stands in regard to Nancy. although listening to her on Monday she will share what the two of them have talked about. I will stand by this statement though because I feel that as an incredible hypocritical, self serving, demented attitude to her 'rescue animals.'  With that said, here we go with 'another caretaker that Nancy will micro manage and run into the ground or submission'. in no way do I feel that she has the best interest of the dogs or people involved. Heard nasty little stories about how she was willing to let you go Sharon after that whole Alison F. ordeal(via Sarah H.). After 3 years volunteering I am shocked FMF has lasted as long as it has....she truly has a difficult and dysfuntional time dealing with people.  If it comes to me  telling this all to Nancy I WILL but hope this will be in confidentiality. I truly care about sooooo many of the animals out there. I also want to be present if 'the shit hits the fan' and she is eauthanizing animals and dispersing the rest to rally for their defense.   Even though I talked personally with today James, I wanted to say THANK YOU again for giving the last year of your Life to FMF. I believe you had the wolfdogs best interest in your heart at all times and your vision for their better livelihood is inspiring. You could not have been a better caretaker and any rescue organization will be so fortunate to have your love, dedication and work ethic:) I look forward to seeing you volunteering at FMF, hopefully for many years to come my friend! Much love and respect. Kim    End the lies and false accusations Nancy,we know the truth!
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AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

Marty, thank you for your comment and I do understand your concern for the animals and situation, but like I said before this has not been taken lightly and the animals are priority # 1. If the situation becomes necessary to find homes for these animals then we will do so, that has been taken care of and discussed for the animals safety. As for Nancy Micheles comments, again your lies and false accounts of what really happened at the farm shows through. do I need to post the emails of my leaving the farm again to prove you are lying? This is about the care and concern of the animals not how many likes a post gets or comments made to try and disprove your inept ways of running a sanctuary. Don't you think your time would be better spent on improving the quality of life for these animals instead of commenting here and trying to make yourself look better.?? I do..!! It's funny Michele that your last 2 post choose to attack my credibility and financial status which you know nothing of. I have 16 animals myself that I care, feed and take full responsibility for. How about getting Your facts straight before you make yourself look any worse than you already have. ok!
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#35 General Comment

Appreciate Nancy and FMF

AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)

I had to respond as the manager of a refuge. I find it difficult to imagine that there will be places for Nancy's wolfdogs to go should some individuals be successful and see FMF closed. So many sanctuaries have had to close their doors-I have had to turn down numerous animals which is very difficult. Unlike James would imply it is not due to a lack of caring but to having all resources and spaces occupied. 
I want to send Nancy my encouragement. No one gets into WD rescue for ego or gain but simply for love of the animals. I hope this does not close a facility that has a good reputation with other wolf dog rescues. Surely everyone can work together out of love for the animals. Otherwise these animals will pay the ultimate price.
Sincerely,
Marty W.
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#36 General Comment

A Question of Credibility

AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)

An overwhelming majority of the wolfdog community, support Full Moon Farm 100% and are grateful for it's existence. What if something terrible happens to me and I can't care for the dogs I love more than anything in the world? The first place that springs to mind is Full Moon Farm. I am not alone. We know the great difficulties inherent in raising and living with wolfdogs, we know the future is uncertain and that there are mighty few places for our animals to go if we can't keep them ourselves for any reason. We are comforted by the thought that FMF is there for them should they ever be in need. We are grateful for this. an incredible amount of work and devotion are required to operate a sanctuary of this size.

The emotionally-charged attacks by an angry and disgruntled ex-employee (who was asked to leave for not providing adequate care for the wolfdogs at FMF) lack all credibility. Unlike Nancy Brown, he, and those defending him, are not able to provide any homes for wolfdogs in need. In spite of it, they are attempting to destroy FMF knowing full well that by doing so they are risking the lives of the animals they claim to care about. If they succeed, at least 70 wolfdogs will be made homeless and euthanized.

The wolfdog community considers FMF to be a significant and much needed asset. We are distressed that a handful of vengeful people -- oblivious of the harmful consequences their personal vendetta might engender for the canine residents of the sanctuary -- are slandering this warm and loving wolfdog haven to advance their cynical and destructive agendas. We, who know FMF, can not allow this to happen. We owe it to the dogs we love and care for.
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#37 General Comment

Wolfdogs come before your personal problems

AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)

Thank you for writing about the dire need for sanctuaries for wolfdogs. It is true that hundreds are killed every single day.

Full Moon Farm has rescued over 500 wolfdogs from unspeakable abuse and neglect. More are in need of rescue every day.

Full Moon Farm has an excellent reputation amongst wolfdog owners and lovers. It is very badly needed.

The people who have initiated these slanderous reports do NOT have the resources, motivation and devotion required to rescue and care for wolfdogs now suffering and in need of rescue. The fact that they are determined to destroy a reputable wolfdog sanctuary without being able to provide better (or any) homes for the wolfdogs currently in residence, makes it clear that these individuals are not in the slightest way motivated by a love of wolfdogs but rather by personal problems stemming from termination of employment for inadequate performance.

If you are attempting to destroy even a single wolfdog's home without having a better home ready and waiting for that animal, you are egregiously irresponsible and a threat to the wolfdog community.
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#38 General Comment

Avoiding the question doesn't help at all.

AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)

Another paranoid rant attempting to dodge the question of responsibility towards the current residents of FMF. In case you've already forgotten what the most important question of all might be, let me remind you:

If you are trying to destroy a wolfdog sanctuary without being absolutely sure that you can and will provide all the animals currently in residence with better homes (or any homes at all), you are playing with the lives and well being of those wolfdogs. If you succeed, you know as well as anyone, that you will neither be able to provide better homes for those dogs or even any homes at all. Where will they go? Have you spent so much as a minute thinking about the consequences of your actions?

So tell us clearly and plainly:

What actions have you taken to insure that all of the wolfdogs currently residing at Full Moon Farm will have better homes than they do now if you succeed in destroying their sanctuary?

If you have a good answer to this question, if you have indeed made certain that all of the wolfdogs at FMA do have better homes waiting for them, then I apologize for criticizing you. If you have NOT, however, I think you are depraved individuals intent on destruction regardless of all the pain and suffering you will cause by your actions.

This is very serious. This hasn't been addressed by the disgruntled ex-employees in any way. They don't even seem worried about it. Their intensely emotionally fueled rampage could end in the deaths of close to 70 animals that will have NOWHERE to go if they are allowed to destroy Full Moon Farm.

As a wolfdog owner and lover of wolfdogs, I'm very concerned and distressed to discover that a few people who claim to be "in it for the animals" are, in reality, in it for vengance against an ex-employer who fired them for grossly inadequate care of the dogs in question. They have become so deluded by their emotions that they no longer care about the dire consequences their actions might have for the animals they claim to want to protect. As an owner, I know all too well that wolfdogs are in great need of sanctuaries like FMF that provide shelter, good food, good vet care and good socialization with volunteers who adore them.

FMF is being grossly misrepresented by people who haven't even thought about where the animals they claim to love will go if they succeed and their home is destroyed. This is irresponsible at best.

Fortunately, as all who come here can see for themselves, an overwhelming majority of the comments made by the ex-employee who was fired, and his cohorts, are all judged to be "unhelpful" by at least 90% of those who read them. Even though they are causing considerable distress for those of us who really do care about wolfdogs and who have benefited from Nancy Brown's expertise and devotion, I firmly believe that they represent an insignificant minority of people with first-hand experience of FMF, and that once their emotions cool off, they will fade away. No matter how vehement these few people are, the truth will prevail as it always does.
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Placements and Adoptions

AUTHOR: Lynda - (USA)

Are there those of us who could provide a better living environment? Yes. Nancy does not allow placements or adoptions.
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AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

To make comments from the sidelines and choose not to help either way just proves to me and others your only interest  is in our comments..No one has chosen to call or really find out the truth from me or any one else... To listen to just one person and not get all the facts is as bad as the abuse going on, and frankly I am surprised at some of these hypocritical people who do run these reputable rescues not stepping forward to find out all the facts. Then to say we will have blood on our hands from these animals tells me you have no idea of our motives and the planning before we decided to bring this to light,so you just assume that we want all the animals put down.  We want all the animals to be safe and happy and properly cared for and that's what we plan to do, I'm sorry you do not agree with any of what we have said or brought to light but if we did not step in to stop this would any of you have done it..???  No,because you were oblivious as to the happenings at the Farm and what goes on there,so before you are so quick to condemn me and the others find out the facts and go from there otherwise keep your comments and lies to yourself unless you have the full story. Two sides to every story folks,get both before you judge other peoples motives and action's..!!  
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#41 Consumer Comment

The truth is

AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)

that you and the other venomous volunteers are going to cost these animals their lives. Nancy had a good reputation among wolf dog rescues. The truth is hundreds of wolf dogs are destroyed a month because no one has room for additional animals. The truth is that watching this unfold makes rescues rethink how they involve volunteers- you all are truly frightening. The truth is "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" as you have no idea what it is like to lie awake worrying about how you are going to keep a refuge going while giving the animals all they need. People do not go into rescue to make money-they do it for love of the animals. The blood of these animals that you profess to love will end up being on you and the others hands. The truth is that makes many of us very sad.
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Re..Michele or Nancy..???

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

I agree with Linda..post the vet report and xrays proving Iceman is tumor free and I will eat my words.. but as of late no one has seen anything but lies from Nancy..cover up again!! Nancy it is so obvious to me and others you wrote michele's comment...Like I said before this is all about the animals and getting them the proper care and love they need, quit hiding and attacking people and do us all a favor and leave and let people who truly love these animals take control and give them what they deserve. The lies and fraud are coming out and no I and the others will not shutup and go away.!! The animals will get the care they need, the proper diet and above all the love and respect they deserve. We all know the truth but you nancy have failed to realize the situation you have put the animals in, did you really expect none of us to sit back and watch you keep running this sanctuary into the ground.??? Until you have taken care of 83 animals 24/7 for almost a year and seen everything that has happened and dealt with it then don't comment or assume you know all the facts and truth..!! The truth is the truth, some just can't handle it or deal with it..!!!
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Iceman

AUTHOR: Lynda - (USA)

 I was told on my first trip into iceman's enclosure that he was covered with tumors and would bite in pain if touched anywhere on the sides or back. I never checked to see if he had tumors because I didn't want to hurt him.

I can tell you that he loves his breakfast! I don't interrupt him when he is enjoying his food. I do come back later to clean the poop up and spend time rubbing his head and under his chin. He would just lean on me and I swear he smiles. 

I noticed what appeared to be a stye forming and documented it not only on the daily checksheet but mentioned it to Nancy. He was never taken to the vet and that growth now covers most of the top lid.

Tumors don't just disappear. In my year there I never met Dr Bev. If he is tumor free then we were lied to. He still has the growth on his eyelid. If he has been examined and found tumor free I am ecstatic for him; saddened by the socialization he has missed because Nancy told us he couldn't be touched; and why not end all the controversy and print out the vet report with Dr Bevs signature. It would be wonderful to see and would end all the doubt.

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#44 General Comment

The Bottom Line ,again

AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)

It's been said already but never addressed by those criticizing Full Moon Farm and Nancy Brown:

If you are able to provide better homes for the animals now living at FMF then maybe you're for real but if you are trying to destroy a wolfdog sanctuary without the ability to provide better homes for every one of the FMF dogs, you are NOT in it for the animals, you are threatening their very existence.

Everyone knows this. It is obvious and undeniable. End of story.

One more time: All of you hell bent on destroying a wolfdog sanctuary at a time when there are so few available and so many in dire need are behaving like psychopaths unless you are able to guarantee that all the animals now living at FMF will have better homes if you are successful. If you succeed in bringing down one of the few good sanctuaries available for these vulnerable animals and you have not found each and every one of the animals now at FMF better homes, you will be directly responsible for their deaths and your actions are irresponsible, immoral, selfish, criminal, cynical, dangerous and depraved. You know who you are and you know that what you are doing is threatening the lives of all the wolfdogs now at FMF as well as those who need to be removed from abusive situations and need a place to go right now.

The fact is that none of the disgruntled people striving to destroy this wolfdog sanctuary can provide the dogs currently at FMF with better homes. If they succeed, the animals will be euthanized (killed).

Unless you are able to provide the dogs at FMA with better homes, trying to destroy the only home these animals have is criminal, psychopathic, selfish, depraved, immoral, irresponsible, irrational and murderous. Shame on you liars and haters. Provide these wonderful dogs with better homes or gtfo.
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Wonderful in what way?

AUTHOR: Lynda - (USA)

    This whole thing is being taken to the depths of hell and spit back up. I have written both for and against the Farm. I don't think we need to exaggerate the problems-the reality is hard enough.

This is not a personal vendetta. What is there to gain? Money spent is money gone-so there is not a monetary pay off. Nobody I know wants to live there or really have the responsibility if something goes wrong-and in our world something always goes wrong.  So no gain there. Vendettas have a pay off. There is no pay off here, so lets move on.

We speak of Nancy because she is the president of a failing company. This is the fourth board that I am aware of that Nancy has asked to bring Full Moon Farm into being as a successful business as she states repeatedly she has no sense for business. Her own children withdrew from a previous board, We worked hard and had viable solutions and in the end, Nancy would not let the changes be implemented. It is HER sanctuary and she fears anyone taking anything that belongs to HER. She does have a narcissistic personality so I understand that this is part and parcel of the continued failure of a self sustaining sanctuary. Her basic personality disorder is a big issue in the failure of Full Moon to move forward. 

First of all, the land is not hers. It is a matter of public record who the land belongs to. There are serious financial infractions in violation of federal law and the way it is set up she will not bear the brunt of these punishments, her board and volunteers will. Nancy is not stupid. There is a reason behind almost everything she does. In fact, the IRS will be investigating the lack of documentation of all donations.Even the $200.00 I gave her for the purchase of board insurance that has not been purchased, and the money not returned is a violation. I had given my word for that amount; I kept my word.

 Federal Law states very clearly that any money donated to a 501(c)3 non profit for a specific purpose MUST be used for that purpose. All money taken in for sponsorships must be used for that animal. All money given for spay and neuters must be used for that purpose. This is not happening. We don't know where the money goes and an audit is going to be demanded.

At no time is the president of a foundation or incorporation to handle the money; that is the treasurer's job. There are no checks and balances here ;Nancy pockets a great deal of money and lives very well. At NO time during my tenure as treasurer did I see a finacial statement. The only time I handled any cash from a howl in, I counted it, had it recounted by another, and we both signed our name to the amounts we totaled.  They were in agreement. Then it was turned over to Nancy. From there? I cannot give you an answer.

The sticking point with those of us who have resigned is the total lack of vet care. The vet she says she uses is not going to back what she says. She will not lose her license over Nancy and the claims she has made. By the time Nancy takes an animal to the vet, they do not come back alive. They are not checked for heartworm, they are not examined on intake nor are the quarantined; resulting in the spread of bordatella from an animal we were told when we took her was animal aggressive. This animal has all ready attacked and injured another animal.

Bites that happen are not reported. I have a problem with this. It is the law. Not only is this a danger to the people getting bitten but the person bitten is told by Nancy to break the law by saying "If you go to the Doctor, say this happened at home." Many of our animals are biters, are on exhibition, and have lost their bite inhibition. Many, including our ambassador animal are not fond of children, and is food aggressive to the point where he drew blood on his pen mate's neck in not one but two attacks. Had Nathaniel not moved so quickly and had he not had backup, (I was really frightened) River would have killed Guinivere.

 We do have a hoarding issue here as well. We have tried to get Nancy to adopt out the dogs, and there are dogs there and she won't. I myself have offered to take four, have the land to keep them and have been doing this since 2005. She trusted me to care for the animals but would not let any of the long term volunteers adopt. One of our main goals was to reduce the number of animals so that the remaining ones would have more. I understand that ten are now gone. Good. It's a start.

 Nancy does not spend much time with the animals. She generally shows up after we have finished a full days work with a list of things she wants done yesterday. I rarely saw her interact with an animal unless there was a tour or event or Howl In. When issues with an animal are reported, they are generally ignored, and this too concerns us as she is the only one she allows to make decsions. There is no delegation of authority, no back up plans if something were to happen to her, or updated examinations. 

 People keep saying this is a vendetta. You need to examine the meaning of the word. It means to attack and harm a person. What we are after is reduced numbers of animals, the deletion of all 10x10 enclosures; especially the ones that stand in water, responsible book keeping, not breaking the law, truth in all things, and first and foremost better care for the animals. I can see where you might think this is a vendetta since Nancy is the only one who can change these things.

 I have also defended the farm. I have never seen any moldy food being given to the animals. Nancy is a stickler for cleaning water buckets with every fill and they are bleached once a month at the least. Do I think that's enough? No. I have seen raw food fed twice. We had to get it out of the pens after two days, wash it off and cut it into smaller pieces. Is this is problem? Frankly I don't think so. Animals in the wild eat rotten meat. A kill may be eaten for a week after the kill. Do I think we feed enough raw? No. The higher the content the more meat should be fed. That depends on the availability of the meat though. Nancy fed the best dry food she could afford. Could we have done better? I do believe so if a budget had been set, and the number of animals reduced.

 The volunteers I worked with I loved. I miss them very much. It is hard work, no doubt about it. We worked together, argued together, laughed together and every one of us loved the animals. You don't do this kind of work if you don't. To have as many volunteers walk off at one time you must ask yourself why this happened? What hasn't been said, is that for the entire week after all of these volunteers walked off the mountain, or were told to "pack their shit and go" they came back everyday and still fed, watered, cut grass, cleaned enclosures and not once were they told thank-you. In fact none of us ever were. Lots of criticism, name calling, yelling at us; but good job or thank you? No, seldom if ever.

There are animals there that are so low or no content that they could be house pets. Why not set up adoption procedures and give these animals a forever home? There are several people involved with the Farm that have their own wolf dogs. Why not let them adopt when they have requested to? This is where the lack of adoption procedures and the hoarding factor comes in. 

 We have done our best to improve the Farm. My question is this. If Nancy truly had the best interest of these animals at heart, admits she has no head for business, had a good working board, would she not turn the presidency over to someone who could handle the business end, make the hard decisions, and let her remain on the board in another capacity? Why not Vice-President? She would have a vote in what happened there and she would be off the hook for the business decisions. She cannot change the person she is, and we cannot allow ourselves to look the other way; not because we hate Nancy, but because we love the animals.

 I am not sure how all of this went viral. It is certainly uncomfortable for me; I hate confrontation. That doesn't mean I don't stand my ground, it just means I feel like throwing up when I do. I have a high standard I hold myself to, honesty, integrity, promises made-promises kept. I tend to expect the same out of others. When it is very clear that I am lied to, I lose respect. I dont get angry because I understand that without fail when you get angry, it's because you are hurt. Deal with the hurt and the anger takes care of itself. So your word "Vendetta" is not in my vocabulary for people-although I do have a vendetta against electronic things I can't figure out.

 I have asked people to stop donating money; but to donate food and supplies. My hope is that this keeps the animals well, the farm improving, but Nancy not having unlimited control over cash. I hear she has a CPA now, and I am thrilled! Nobody wants the animals hurt or the farm closed. Those of us who chose to take a stand didn't do so out of hate, but concern and love for the animals. 

 Let's not make this worse than it all ready is. Facts are facts-we do not need to gossip monger. Are we all not working towards a common goal?

  OK-off my soapbox for now. 
Blessed Be.



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#46 UPDATE EX-employee responds

reputations

AUTHOR: Lynda - (USA)

    Ask some of the people in the wolf world or the dog world how they feel about her. Haven't found many who haven't backed way off in offers of any help or who now have any respect for Nancy.
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#47 UPDATE EX-employee responds

who?

AUTHOR: Lynda - (USA)

    We have all ready identified your writing several times Nancy; those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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Re... Jerry

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

Wow Jerry...for only to have met me once you sure do know everything about me,I'm really glad you posted your comments know everyone can see the kind of people Nancy has as friends and volunteers. Funny how you know everything after a few months there....try staying there 24/7 for a year and see what you find out.!!! To come on here and attack me really shows your true colors and intent, you need not worry about my pants or who I am because its none of your business and Nancy's either. Jealousy and manipulation is Nancy's mo and you fell for it...

The animals are priority one and we will see to it they are properly cared for..Thank you for your comment, it was enlightening..!!!
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#49 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Not so

AUTHOR: Lynda - (USA)

There have been escapes.
One escapee was shot.
She has tried to euthanize, but let that animal suffer all night with an improper doseage of Ketamine.
She does not vaccinate the animals.
She does not report animal bites.
She does not do the hands on care.

The arrival time of Nancy at the farm is far after the chores are finished.
She doesn't just not vet the animals, she refuses to vet the animals and waits for an animal communicator to tell her it's time to take them.
The only interaction Nancy has with "HER" animals is when it is in public and makes her look good.
There are more animals there that would like to eat her than not.

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#50 General Comment

full moon farm

AUTHOR: Jerry C - (United States of America)

Ok folks, I have been hanging around the farm a few months, because I recently lost my wolfdog and am having a hard time with it.  Every one of those animals  will end up dead if you all don't quit bitching.     True they don't get to sleep on a 3000 mattress and eat steak, venison and ice cream every day like mine did, but given the limited support Nancy gets, I don't see how she does it....or why. Have you seen all those "gated communities" on the way up to the farm?   If Nancy was in it for the money, she'd sell  off the farm for a mil or so and be sipping pina coladas in the bahamas. Why she works like a slave 10 or 12 hours a day is beyond me. I stayed there a week and regardless of anything else she does, every waking minute is dedicated to those animals. Without her, those animals will die.  No she probably doesn't keep good books, her etiquette  isn't perfect, she can't do everything just so so, but those animals come ahead of all else.  These other shelters around the country have million dollar budgets and 5 or ten animals, and pick and chose their animals.  Nancy would take every scrubby mutt in the country if she could afford them. 

 A lot of her animals are old, mean,  or sick, but not because of anything she did. She doesn't just kill them on the spot like your tax supported shelters.  She (and all the volunteers) i have met, give them as much care, compassion, company, dignity and love as each will accept.  Remember, these aren't poodles ,  they're wolfdogs, the craziest, and most intelligent animal on the face of the earth. No one wants to deal with them (like your parents who some of you stuff in a rest home to keep them out of sight) No you didn't breed them,  but we are all responsible for them, just like air pollution and garbage. We need to deal with it. Many improvements are underway now, Including a water project, driveway and stream repairs, larger and better enclosures, and gravel paths.   I will be there most of next week and need help doing ANYTHING, even just watching me in case I get hurt on some of the machinery.

Remember, IT AIN'T ABOUT YOU.....most people have their own little agenda, and it's all about them only. That's why I gave up on people a few years ago and prefer the wolves.  Ice man is OLD, not sick and mangy. He can crush 2 inch bones, and if you go to facebook, you can see him wallowing my ass on the ground.   And James....I only met you once and I knew you were a loser then. If you'd keep your mouth shut, and your pants zipped, It would be a better world.         
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walk in our shoes

AUTHOR: Lynda - (USA)

    All of this passion defending Ms Brown when you come out once in a while; you are misguided. You see money Nancy-the one with the smile and her hand out with the proverbial knife in the other.

    Ms Brown has several faces and the only one that isn't abusive and crying hysterically half the time is the one you see when she is the center of attention; and she does love that.

    In the end, Ms Brown is a hoarder of animals to feed her ego. The animals are the ones I am concerned with. Let the government take care of her.

    There have been three boards try to make this work by limiting the number of animals taken in; and having them vetted first. Regardless of what you have heard, we have seen the condition of the animals when it isn't show time. I wouldn't put an eight pound poodle in half of the enclosures. I have never met the vet, but she prescibes without examination for both the dogs and Nancy.

    One must think quality over quantity. The sheer numbers demand neglect as daily chores take up the majority of every day. Don't think Nancy participates in this either. She shows after the work has been done with a million excuses as to why she wasn't there. She ignores the daily worksheets that define problems, and waits until it's too late to do anything to take action. We all knew when she would finally take an animal to the vet, it wouldn't come back alive. Keep in mind documentation was made and ignored.

    An organization fails from the top down, not the bottom up. She won't step down as this is her ocd-the only thing she derives any money from, not because she cares about the animals. 

    As with any "production" what you see on stage is far from the scene behind the curtains.

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AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

Funny 'sue'..if you want to find out my knowledge about wolves and wolfdogs then contact me and I will gladly talk to you..and if you always assume something without knowing all the facts then your just as misguided and gullible as everyone on this report has proven. Not one of has tried to find out the truth,maybe because you are scared to confront Nancy or you just do not want to believe that this is going on...either way we are standing up for the animals and we will be their voice..!!!
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#53 Consumer Comment

Bottom line?

AUTHOR: Sue - (United States of America)

It seems like folks keep missing some really obvious stuff. (?)

If the James version of "the animals being taken care of" means that their only safe haven is shut down out of spite, and they are all put to death...how is it possible to spin that into "I'm in it for the animals"? That's such an empty, meaningless phrase when used with malicious intent...as seems to be the case more and more often these days.  :-/

Also, you asked "if the animals are well cared for, why are they dying of cancer/tumors or bloat?" and I'm not sure what's so hard to grasp about that. When animals (or people!) die, they have to die from SOMETHING. Usually, cancer is what gets them when they've lived long enough, and been cared for well enough, that they don't *die of something else*. How would YOU suggest that old dogs are prevented from dying of cancer?  Or would you just kill them outright the day it's diagnosed--while they still have good quality of life? I still suspect that this is really where your whole uproar is coming from--that animals do get cancer and there's nothing you can do about it. It sucks but it's a part of life.  

Even bloat is not something that suggests neglect; a lot of very well run facilities and conscientious private owners have had dogs die from bloat. It's a common killer for large, deep-chested dogs. (I've not had it happen myself, but have seen well-cared-for animals I knew personally who did.) There's no surefire way to avoid it other than pre-emptive gastropexy surgery, which carries its own risks. Again, it's horrible when it happens, but to imply that there's something wrong with the animal's care if it bloats demonstrates a lack of knowledge and experience on your part.

Granted, you've done a fair job of showing that some of the volunteers have had personal problems when it came to getting along with the sanctuary's owner. (Doesn't really surprise me, since most canine rescues and dog people in general tend to have the Type A/"alpha bitch" mentality. It's unfortunately tied to what makes them successful.) I just don't see that as enough reason to put all these animals at risk. I would argue that if you care about these dogs, it makes more sense to put ego and personal feelings aside, and try to SOLVE problems instead of creating new ones.

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#54 UPDATE EX-employee responds

RE..WoW !!

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

First of all Michele let me point out to everyone here,you were never there when Cheryl was caretaker and you started volunteering at the Farm 3 months before I left the Farm. What you have written reads like a script from Nancy Brown's book of lies..And if you know so much about me then you would have known me and Nathaniel were very good friends and I helped as much as he helped the Farm before he became caretaker and Nancy abused him. Did you know Nancy threw Nathaniel off the farm and 6 others left the same night too..????  Did you ask her why she threw everyone out and got rid of her caretaker again..???  She will never tell anyone the truth because her lies suit her more and she looks good from making everyone else look bad. Anyway I never told you about what happened down in SC as it was none of your business and your account could not be further from the truth...get your facts straight before you try and do Nancy's dirty work and lie to everyone. But Michele what is very interesting to me is that I never told you about my criminal record so how did you find out and what gives you the right to judge me after all we only met 3-4 times at the Farm and you know nothing about me or the situation at the Farm.  I really laughed as I read your comments and knowing that you did not write this and you were put up to this by Nancy Brown...Pathetic..!!!!  FYI.....I encourage you and the others to find out the real truth and start asking Nancy all the question about the farm and for proof so that you will know along with the rest of us what is really going on at the Farm.!!!!  You and others keep insisting that this is a vendetta and revenge for me...lol...well I will ask you this..Why is it then that Nancy is trying to attack me and only me and no one else..????  Revenge and hatred on her part or could it be I am speaking the truth and not scared of Nancy as everyone else is...??????   Nancy is a very sick and sorry excuse for a human being after what she did to Nathaniel and the way she treated him...She treated me and Nate and countless others the same way and all because we had the animals best interest at heart and wanted to change things and she didn't want too...If she treats her volunteers and caretakers this way..I wonder how does she really treat the animals she says she loves so much..????    Are you Michele and everyone else going to be part of the solution for these animals or are all you going to be the continuing problem along with Nancy..???..because with or without you we are going to shut her down and get the appropriate people in place to take care and see that these animals are taken care of the right way.... Solution or Problem people ....your choice.!!!!
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#55 Consumer Comment

Re:Full Moon Farm Receive Excellent Health Care

AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)

No-one said Nathaniel was a bad caretaker you nit witt, but did Nancy forget to tell you that Nathaniel up and quit on her too? Don't think so, why don't you ask her why Nathaniel and Alison split in the middle of the night. Or ask Nathaniel what she did to him to make him leave in such a hurry.

Go on, don't be afraid ask her....lets see if she tells the truth.
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#56 General Comment

Full Moon Farm Receive Excellent Health Care

AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)

This is what I've seen first hand. I remember that when Cheryl was caretaker, the animals were well-cared for, fed good-quality food, always had fresh water and competent vet care. I know the veterinarian employed by FMF. She is extremely well-respected by the community for her competence and experience. She is not at all the kind of person who would ignore poor conditions at Full Moon Farm and allow the dogs there to be maltreated in any way.

I remember being perplexed when Nancy Brown hired James Landreth. He had previously worked as caretaker for a notorious back-yard breeder in South Carolina. The wolfdogs cared for by James Landreth there, were in horrendous condition. The abuse was so egregious that the breeder was forced to shut down. Thirty-eight wolfdogs, in extremely poor condition, were suddenly homeless. Nancy Brown took them all in. She saw animals in distress. She didn't turn any away. That's the kind of thing that has earned her the respect, admiration, and appreciation of the wolfdog rescue community.

Why Nancy hired a man responsible, in part, for the abusive neglect of wolfdogs in SC, is a mystery to me. I believe she made a big mistake by neglecting to do a criminal background check before hiring him and that this decision is now coming back to bite her.

After James Landreth was asked to leave, he began harassing Nancy Brown. It was easy to see that he had a big chip on his shoulder and wanted revenge. He didn't hide his hatred of Nancy Brown and many volunteers and visitors to Full Moom Farm, during his final weeks there, knew about it. Fortunately, for the canine residents of FMF, Nancy was able to find a good new caretaker right away.

The new, and latest caretaker Nancy Brown hired, an earnest, hard-working young man called Nathaniel, made noticeable improvments to the property - cleaning up neglected areas and repairing equipment. While he was there, the condition of the dogs' enclosures improved. As a volunteer, I saw how hard Nathanial worked and liked him very much. He made great efforts to befriend the wolfdogs and was learning a great deal from his position as caretaker. While under Nathaniel's care, I never saw a wolfdog without clean water and high-quality food. I was over-joyed that the wolfdogs at Full Moon Farm were being well cared for.

I don't know if James Landreth has ever met Nathaniel and I don't know how he is able to claim that the animals suffered in any way while Nathaniel was caretaker. He was no longer visiting the Farm after his termination. I don't know why James is accusing Nathaniel of neglecting to clean enclosures, feeding bad food and not providing fresh clean water. My experience of Nathaniel's work was the exact opposite to that described by James Landreth. It doesn't seem right to attack a young man like Nathaniel and I simply don't understand why this is taking place. It appears that he's doing wolfdogs a great disservice by attempting to undermine Nancy Brown's efforts and those of the other volunteers who are working with her to aide and protect wolfdogs.

The attacks on this website are irresponsible and unforgivable. They are jeopardizing the lives of the wolfdogs currently at FMF as well as uncountable others in dire need of sanctuary. Resolving personal problems with Nancy Brown in this fashion is terribly misguided and destructive. The vast majority of people acquainted with Nancy Brown and Full Moon Farm know very well that the content of these attacks are unfounded.

I would urge anyone not acquainted with Full Moon Farm to check out their website on Facebook and see for themselves how the canine residents there are doing. You will find countless beautiful photos of wolfdogs and volunteers enjoying one another's company, detailed and loving descritpions of all the residents and hundreds and thousands of positive reports by those who have visited Full Moon Farm.

Full Moon Farm is an invaluable asset to wolfdogs and is very much needed. Nancy Brown's sincere love of wolfdogs and her dedication to rescue are clear to all who know her or have ever visited this wonderful sanctuary.
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Praying for Nancy and the animals at Full Moon Farm

AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)

Nancy and Full Moon Farms have a wonderful reputation among other wolfdog rescues. Sending my prayers that these attacks stop and that Nancy and the volunteers that are working with the animals will be able to get back to taking care of the refuge so that all benefit. That is a full time job and distractions and attacks help no one except attention seekers. "Be the change you wish to see in the world". Pitch in and help- it costs nothing and accomplishing nothing to simply be critical.
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Re..Michele

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

If the animals are in such good shape and properly vetted then why is all of the animals that have passed either had cancer,bloat or tumors..??? A reoccurring problem at the farm that volunteers are not privy too.!!! You only know of what goes on at the farm from the lies that Nancy tells everyone..until you live there and work 24/7 and see for yourself you and everyone else have no clue how bad it is.!!!

Go ask Nancy to show you the vet report and X-ray's showing Iceman is free of tumors and cancer..Then come back and tell me..!!! There is none or she would have already posted it..!!! You and everyone else can justify this by saying this is a vendetta and its hate....but I could care less about Nancy and my feelings toward her..its the animals that cannot tell you when they are sick or in pain and that is what we are here for..the animals only.!!!

When this all comes out and the truth is shown,are you still going to believe Nancy or all of you that sit there and make these comments going to help the animals...I bet none of you do cause this isn't about the animals for you!! I just hope all of you realize you cannot let problems and the health of animals go unreported no matter who the person is...!!! FOR THE ANIMALS...ALWAYS AND FOREVER.!!!
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#59 General Comment

A Wonderful Sanctuary is Being Attacked

AUTHOR: Michele Sevik - (United States of America)

I'm shocked and saddened to learn that a few people are putting the lives and well-being of the wolfddogs of Full Moon Farm at risk because of a personal vendetta against Nancy Brown, Founder and Owner. As a Full Moon Farm volunteer and frequent visitor, I know first hand that this report is nothing but slander and lies intended to hurt Nancy Brown by attacking what she loves best: the wolfdogs of FMF.

Nancy Brown's entire life and all her energy and resources are, and always have been, devoted to caring for the wolfdogs at FMF. The animals are happy and good health. They are fed high-quality kibble daily as well as fresh meat several times a month and none ever go hungry. They always have clean water, clean enclosures with nice dog houses for shelter and the best veterinary care money can buy. [I take my pups to the same vet and she's intelligent, experienced and highly competent.]

Animals that come to FMF abused, sick and poorly socialized are healed physically and mentally under Nancy's care. It's amazes me to see scared, starved and abused animals learn to trust and love again. These wolfdogs have no where else to go. Nancy has made it her life's mission to reduce their suffering however she can and give them a good home for life. Time after time, animals that were unapproachable when they arrived, learn to love and trust again and that's why so many people are drawn to volunteer there. If it were not for Full Moom Farm, they would continue to be brutalized or simply euthanized.

In addition to caring for the wolfdogs at FMF, Nancy works tirelessly to educating the public about wolfdogs, dispelling the myth that they are dangerous or aggressive. Her beautiful and gentle "Ambassadog", River, accompanies her to educational events to the delight of all who meet him. This is very important to those of us who love wolfdogs because ignorance and inappropriate fear endanger these amazing dogs. Full Moon Farm has a warm, friendly, personal feel. The dogs are always happy to see volunteers and it's a joy to see them as well.

I'm confounded and upset that a few individuals with a personal vendetta against Nancy Brown are putting the welfare of the wolfdogs of Full Moon Farm in jeopardy to further their cause. It's reprehensible to put the animals at Full Moon Farm at risk by trying to undermine Nancy Brown's efforts. I don't know all of the authors of these reports against Full Moon Farm, but I so know that their reports are groundless and that their efforts are misguided, cynical and mean-spirited. If they loved wolfdogs, they would not be attacking Full Moon Farm.

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Re: TO: Alleged Former Volunteer

AUTHOR: Eagle Who Watches - (United States of America)

If you aren't part of the solution, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.

Take a stand, take ACTION and DO SOMETHING about it!!!!!
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AUTHOR: Eagle Who Watches - (United States of America)

I have not aligned myself with anyone. I don't know James never met him never spoke with him.
And who are you to call what I have said slanderous. I do fear Nancy brown and I have my reasons for it. I don't need to ride on someone else's coat tails to come to that conclusion. Hang around long enough and you will be running from the mountain faster than she can say boo.

You've no idea what many of us have been through while volunteering at the farm. Your the one who needs to get a life. I have one and am very happy with it now that I have gotten away from that wretched woman. And work full time with a reputable sanctuary that truly has the animals best interest at heart.

What are you doing to help the animals at Full Moon Farm?
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TO: Alleged Former Volunteer

AUTHOR: wolflover2 - (USA)

Wow.  You are right. This is out of control.  You have aligned yourself with a convicted criminal while implying a woman who has devoted over a decade of her life to those animals is a danger to you?  Talk about defamation of character!!  You people are nuts and possibly also dangerous to the animals you claim to care about.

If Animal Control and the Vet deem the animals and the animals' conditions are fit, who are you to decide otherwise?  This is a vendetta and a power trip.  I've seen this place and these animals.  The only problem is you people.  Geez.  Get a life. 

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AUTHOR: Eagle Who Watches - (United States of America)

This has gotten so out of control with everyone. But let me set the record straight. First I will not give my real name in this forum because I do fear for my life when going against Nancy Brown. And second because I have given my real name to the proper authorities.

I have seen the atrocities at Full Moon Farm first hand as an ex-volunteer. I am not a disgruntled former employee I am deeply saddened by the way in which the animals at Full Moon Farm are treated. I had tried to implement change when it comes to the care of the animals ie: better housing larger enclosures. Cleaning up the property and more importantly veterinarian care for the animals.
I have seen first hand Ms. Brown diagnose and treat an animal without consulting a veterinarian. Some of which have died on the property and are buried on the property. And some of which we were told had gotten out and Ms. Brown gave the ranchers permission to shoot to kill if a wolfer came onto their property. 

I have also seen people being bitten but I am not going to say what animal the bite came from because several of the animals have aggression issues. What concerns me is that Ms. Brown has made it clear to us that if we were ever bitten and needed to see a doctor not to tell them that it happened at the farm. If you could not abide by those rules then you would not be able to volunteer at the Farm. So those of us that truly love the animals made these kinds of statements in order to be able to work with the animals. trying to socialize them and so forth.

I don't want to see any harm come to any of the animals, but I also do not want them to have to live under the conditions that they are currently in. I have made every attempt to remedy some of these problems but to no avail which led me to leave the farm.

I have given my written statement to the proper authorities and have turned over all documentation that I have with the hope that a proper investigation will take place and that changes can and will be implemented for the best interest of the animals.

I love and miss my duties at the farm, but knowing that people are trying to fix the problems eases my mind to a certain extent.

Our love and devotion to the animals is all that matters at this point. I felt the need to speak up because this has gotten so out of hand people attacking people when it should only be about the animals.
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AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

Oh..so now your trying to say I have anger issues Dr.Wolfie...lmao..you and Cheryl make up your minds...anger issues or not taking care of the animals..????  Which is it....yea I get really upset when I see people not doing what is right by the animals and taking money from them...and it worries me that you wouldn't Wolfie..!!!   The fact that you have never met me and that you would make a statement like that tells me you have no idea what is going on and you just want to try and hurt someone with your comments...grow up..!!!!  All of you here hide behind your keyboards and make your comments without first finding out the truth...so when all of this is over I will post all the evidence on here so that you can see,or would your little narrow minds not be able to handle the truth...!!! Have a nice day Wolfie...!!!
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#65 General Comment

Angry Man

AUTHOR: wolflover2 - (USA)

Have never seen such an angry man stuck in the past.  One other writer suggested you need help.  I concur.  Did you know that anger is depression turned inward?  You need to move on and get over yourself.  The animals are fine - right now and in the present day.  You're the one who is ill.  Prayers will be said for you and your friends who have nothing to do but destroy what they can't have.  You are not being respected for what you are doing.   You only look like a pitiful fool.  Get some professional help.



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Re: Cheryl and wolfie....

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

Wolfie....What game have we lost..????  We are not playing games or have idle threats floating around,This is about the well being of the animals and we will see to it that they are taken care of and provided for...is that why you are upset too..because you did nothing..????  Cheryl...give it up...Why is it now you and everyone else have a problem with what I did at the farm..???   If I did such a horrible job then why wasn't something done after you left...huh..????  I will tell you why...because I did nothing wrong..you and Nancy and all her little followers are upset that Nancy was finally caught with her lies,abuse and hand in the cookie jar..!!!!  The truth hurts and you and the others will find out soon enough...P.S.--  Threatening me doesn't work..ask Nancy..!!!!                                                                                                                                                                                                 
This is so true...people judge and criticize what they do not want to believe or understand.....so tell's the character of the person..!!!!         
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Re..wolfie and cheryl

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

WOLFIE...I lost what.???..this isn't a game animals lives are at stake and you think your funny.Besides I am not the only one bringing charges just the only one who has the balls to stand up to you idiots and Nancy.. Wait till it is finished then you can apologize ...lmao.

Cheryl.....it seem's you have lost your mind yet again...threatening me will do you and others no good,this is going to happen with or without your support and you can continue to lie and fall at Nancy's feet as everyone else does...Your Rantings and obvious inevitable mental breakdown is apparent by "Your" acct of things that happened at the farm. You and everyone just. don't get it...you really think I would spend all this time on a supposed vendetta towards Nancy...lol..she isn't worth it..but the animals deserve more and they are going to get it..!!! And Cheryl...yea Karma is a bitch,so go play with your mobile grooming business and play your little farm computer games cause in the end you will see the truth come out and the lies exposed...!!!!!
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#68 UPDATE Employee

my nose smells.... personal vandetta

AUTHOR: cheryl b - (United States of America)

Yes... I have decided to "stick my nose in this".... you are jeopardizing my 'family', and like the lion that i am.... DON'T mess with my cubs!

Yes... I was having a tough time taking care of the animals... but GUESS WHAT... i was doing it. I lugged water, food and poop buckets... everyday!  A pencil pushing 54 yr old woman, jumping into the farm life.... you bet your a** i was sore and tired!  But a man 10yrs younger has to be a wuss and complain about the work??  When you got there the property was not in bad shape considering we were STILL cleaning up from an ice storm that nearly devastated the mountain,

and if you remember we had regulars from WW college helping in the clean up. I too put my blood, sweat and tears into the sanctuary. Actually i know several folks who have been breaking their backs for FMF from its inception, over coming many obstacles..... that no matter how they felt about Nancy, me, Sharon, Trey, Mish, etc.... they didn't go to the internet and try to destroy all the good that FMF has and will accomplish.

Yes.. I kept records of what meds the animals were being given... DUH... does it matter that it was note book pages being kept in the animals files? Did you keep any records of the treatments and diets that you maintained? Did you maintain meds and diets? Where is your proof, mine is on notebook pages in the animals' file.

Yes... Beverly has been to the farm on a multitude of times, she came in her church clothes to help Howler to the bridge. She came to the vet office on a Sunday to help Sky and Nita. She took 7am and 10pm calls from me when Dodger first came to us. Don't ever think that Beverly doesn't take care of the animals.... and yes.... the farm constantly owes a bill .. why?  cuz the animals are being vetted! And yes... occasionally the farm has a feed bill due... mmmmm, cuz the animals are getting fed???

Misty is another animal you have no business saying anything about. I have my own demons to fight over her... I will not let you attach your ego to that.   (to those that don't know... Misty was almost dead when Nancy got her...  she had many problems, and the farm spent a lot of money to try to keep her healthy, she would get healthy and fall back... it was a week to week struggle at the end... but Misty was a fighter, never slowed down and always had a good attitude.. I fought at least twice to keep her from the bridge... Dr Beverly and Nancy over ruled ... it was her time... *find out more about Misty on our web page)

and i ask once again:
if the water was nasty... why wasn't it cleaned
if the food was bad... why wasn't it changed
if fences needed mending.. why didn't you mend them
YOU were in charge after all.

again.... MAN UP.... take your pettiness and walk away from the animals... i don't care what your problem is with Nancy... just leave the animals out of it! You run a good con... you got rid of me... right?  no matter what i tried to tell anyone, they didn't believe me.....  beware....  KARMA IS A B*TCH.

"may the powers that be look to this man, james landreth.. may the animals at Full Moon Farm be absent from his malice"

p.s. when it comes to Full Moon Farm, the only mistake i ever made was letting you run me off. 
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#69 General Comment

You've Lost

AUTHOR: wolflover2 - (USA)

You've lost this war.  Give it up.  No one believes your stories.  This is personal.  You hate Nancy Brown and you don't care if the animals are harmed in any way.   You have no credibility.  Weeds?  IRS?   Do you know how silly you sound? 
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#70 UPDATE Employee

RE: Cheryl B

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

Well Cheryl you have decided to stick your nose in this as well....First off when I got to the Farm you could barely take care of the animals much less the property..and for you to say the animals were in bad shape..who was prescribing meds from a piece of notebook paper that Nancy,not a vet,had told you to give out and the meds were out of date and was not written for that specific animal...Who Cheryl..it was you..!!!!

 As for Beverly being there at all times...Why didn't she see Misty when she was out there..????   Because the only time she was there was for the rabies vaccinations..that's why.!!!  You never called the vet to come see Misty or Mya ...they both got self-vetted by Nancy and you,that's why when you left Mya never got better because the meds she was getting was the wrong thing and she had not seen the vet and Nancy would not take her as Mya hates her..!!!  As to Akila...you seem to forget what you were arguing about....her weight and not eating...not the bump on her nose..and after a couple of weeks trying to help her gain weight and it not working..yes she went to the vet.!!  And now Chance...It was you,Sarah and me in the cabin with Chance the night before he was put down,and Nancy came down to look at him along with Patti,from up the hill,and Nancy decided it was time and tried to euthenize him with just ketamine,well it didn't work and he labored at breathing for a while but woke back up. The next morning me along with Sarah and Mish took him to Dr.Beverlys to be euthenized,they came out to the van and he went quietly..!!!!    So is that accurate enough for you or do you want the times all this took place too..????  

 I am going to say once and for all,I busted my a** taking care of the animals,the farm,the vehicles and everything else including Nancy's house on the hill and for you and everyone else to say I never took animals to the vet, 8 times with 4 animals coming home to be buried,Chance,Dakota,Misty and Bear ....and that I did not take care and do everything for these animals..????   You are just as bad as Nancy at blaming others for your mistakes and shortcomings and when you decide to blame and spread lies you had better have the proof to back it up,not just your short term selective memory...!!!!!   Thank You Cheryl for your's and Nancy's version of things that might have happened.......next time try the truth...!!!!
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#71 UPDATE EX-employee responds

?? REALLY james ??

AUTHOR: cheryl b - (United States of America)

to all that read this 'report' ... please consider the source of the complaint I WORKED WITH james!!

"mr" james landreth was in charge of the animals, the caretaker after i left, and if the animals were in bad shape, who is at fault?? When i was caretaker, the animals got fresh food, fresh water and meds that were prescribed by the vet. If you think the vet wasn't/isn't involved, why would she take a call from me at any hour? 

I am sure there are numerous posts from volunteers and others that have visited the farm... but the one i read from Sue was put very eloquently and is right on target. The farm has regular volunteers that would NEVER LET ANYTHING BAD HAPPEN to the animals.

When james first came to the farm with the SC animals, most came with severe problems. All were underweight and most were not the least bit socialized. With love from our volunteers, a lot of these animals are now tolerant and even invite human contact.  james talks of self vetting... but he fails to mention that he spent every third or fourth night with his pocket knife in Akilas pen cutting open a bump on her nose... instead of having us take her to the vet. When i told Nancy that the animal needed to see the vet, he raised a stink and called me a liar. *i saw what i saw.  After 2 weeks of fighting with him, i called Nancy to come and look for herself.... the dog seen the vet.

james: HOW DARE YOU talk about the last hours that Chance spent on this earth. For your information the meds given to him were to make him comfortable until morning, when he had his appointment to go to the bridge (a trip that you did NOT take). I loved that old man, and you will NOT make his passing a card in your vendetta deck! This statement also pertains to Ozzy, Mya (whom you did NOT give prescribed meds to), Dodger (whom i seen you give moldy bread to), or any other of the 'kidz' on the farm. Your problem is with Nancy, act like a man and leave the animals out of your problem.

I didn't copy the original report, so I forget what else i needed to make clear to the folks that do not know james landreth. 

But know this:
if the water buckets were dirty, why didn't he make sure they were clean?
if the food was bad, why didn't he make sure they got fresh?
if the dog needed vetting, why wasn't Nancy or the vet called?

The pens and the grounds are maintained and the animals are in good shape, both physically and mentally (considering each and their personalities).

PLEASE.... visit Full Moon Farm at a Howl-In ... see with your own eyes :)
or visit us on facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Moon-Farm-Wolfdog-Sanctuary/208635945835968
or visit our web page:
http://www.fullmoonfarm.org

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#72 Consumer Comment

Libel & Slander

AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)

Defamation of character is a civil offense that involves harming someones reputation. This offense is commonly divided into two categories: slander and libel. While people often make the mistake of using these terms interchangeably, it is important to realize that there is a difference.

Libel is an offense that occurs when one party spreads false information about another party by way of written word. This can include posting lies on the Internet, publishing a story in a magazine, or writing on a bathroom wall. Slander occurs when one party tells lies about another through speech. This oral offense is not limited to face-to-face conversations.

A person may be guilty of slander for statements made over an intercom or left on an answering machine.It is important to note that a person cannot be successfully sued for slander or libel unless there is a third party involved. The law does not recognize that an offense has occurred when false information is limited to a perpetrator and the individual who alleges harm. Another important similarity between slander and libel is that each has only one absolute defense, which is truth.

No matter the harm done to a persons reputation, the party causing harm cannot be found guilty of slander or libel if she can prove that the statements that she made are true.

And we know the statements that we have made are true!


Heed your word's wisely, they may come back to haunt you "Says The Seed To The Spawn"
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#73 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Re...

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

I need to get help.??? What about all of you who have turned a blind eye and covered this up for all these years..shame on you.!!! So you are going to persecute me and everyone else involved for doing the right thing for the animals..i guess so..!!! If you were such good friends with Nancy then you would have known what was going on and yet as rescuers and wolfdogs advocates you stood around and did nothing to help.

Go right ahead and throw me under the bus to make yourselves feel better because I know in my heart that this is the right thing to do..!!! I'm curious though...do you really know the true story and facts or are you going on rumors and lies from Nancy ..???? I will not be commenting anymore because no matter the proof or the facts that come out,some people fail to see the truth..!!!
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#74 Consumer Comment

Shame on all of you for the slandering of this rescue

AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (USA)

It will be too late when the wolfdogs have to be euthanized because of your hurt pride and callousness. How dare you pretend to care about the wolf dogs. You care only about hearing your own voices. Go ahead and rob this rescue of their non-profit status- and ability to be able to stay open. You obviously care nothing about the animals-not a one of you that malign and whine that you can no longer go in and play instead of working to truly help these animals. No wonder so many people are giving up rescue. You people are truly scary-all of you that have joined in this witch hunt. I count my blessings that most animals do not have "helpers" like you-especially you James. You need to get help. 
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#75 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Re...donations

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

I would contact the IRS and let them know...many others have been done the same way.!! Or you can contact me and it will be forwarded to the proper authorities ..thanks. James
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#76 Consumer Comment

Donations

AUTHOR: ARA - (United States of America)

Over the last 2 years we have donated funds to the tune of $375 after numerous attempts to inquire receipts we had to contact paypal to get a copy of our payments.

I don't know if this amount of money is worth contacting the IRS about but if anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it.
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#77 UPDATE EX-employee responds

RE..WoW !!

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

I find it really funny how you could say that I was angry in my last post,to mistake my passion and willingness to defend my position on this issue for anger.????  I asked you simple questions and you had no solid answers or proof to back it up,and the fact that you are hiding leads me to believe you are just another fake profile created by Ms Brown...!!!  This also proves my point that you and everyone else really do not want to know the truth but hide behind fake profiles and try to discredit the ones who are really care and want to see that these animals are in the best home possible....  And if I hurt your feelings then I'm sorry..The truth does hurt..!!!!
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#78 Consumer Comment

Expecting perfection by a human's standards?

AUTHOR: Sue - (United States of America)

So we've been reduced from "everything I can imagine to accuse her of, is wrong", to "well...I bet she has some weeds on the property! So there!"

Seriously...who cares. Weeds? True or not true, I doubt the dogs are devastated by that because, well...they're DOGS. Dogs aren't offended by nature; in fact, they rather like it.  

Grass grows quickly. Mud is, unfortunately, what dirt turns into when it rains a lot--like it does often in NC during the spring. Some humans may be put off by a muddy patch within a large pen, where the water tub was just dumped for refilling, &/or where the animal played in the water tub as the vast majority of wolfdogs will do...but that doesn't really say anything about overall quality of life...only about how much it rained, or if the mower was in the shop. Are the animals healthy? Are their frames of mind good? Do they have appropriate setups/environments? These are the important things.


(I don't know who the Inverness person is or if they've ever been to FMF, but their platform isn't any better: "I think all the positive reviews must be made up by the owner. That way, they wouldn't outweigh the postings from the only two negative people: me and the disgruntled ex-employee.")
I've been around long enough to know, for sure, who *all but one* of the positive testimonal writers are, in Real Life...and none of those are Nancy, so it seems to me you're grasping at straws due to a lack of genuine support.

This whole thing is getting pretty silly. I'm sorry you had bad experiences there, and I understand that there are two sides to every story and that *no one* can ever be perfect (nor can they ever please EVERYONE)...but the gross exaggeration of crying "witch" is morally reprehensible, and making waves when no one is suffering or endangered is absolutely not in the best interests of the dogs. If you had issues with the handling of any dog (partially) in your care, why wouldn't you try to do something *then*, instead of just pitching a fit a year after you've left?

James, I don't really know you but it sounds to me like you haven't had a lot of experiences with senior dogs. Life isn't all sunshine and butterflies when you get old--whether you're a human or a dog. You slow down, you get achy with arthritis, and if you live long enough, you end up with tumors/cancer, because that's what usually kills you when you didn't succumb to anything else. (Btw, the occurences of Iceman seeing the vet would be easy enough to confirm, especially for any of the agencies that are responsible for such things. The vet does keep records!)

I really feel for seniors, but it's not necessarily best to run right out and kill them the moment they show signs of aging. Granted, different people choose to do it later, or sooner, than others...I know some people wait longer than I would, but regardless, *it's not my call*. If the animal's pain is managed and their overall quality of life is good, then the call on "When It's Time" is totally up to the owner. That's because they are the OWNER. If you (general "you", meaning all those people who are quick to critique other folks' rescues) want to call all the shots on a rescue, then -start your own rescue-. The mentality that "I know best, and everyone else needs to do everything MY way or I'll sic the animal rights groups, cops, etc on them" is mindblowing...I don't know what's wrong with the world to make people feel this way, but it's getting more and more common in the rescue world and it's always the animals who pay for it. :-(

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#79 Consumer Comment

Ouch

AUTHOR: Dirt Bike Rider - (United States of America)

 Wow, now we see your true colors shine through Mr. Landreth. Name calling?  All that anger? You hurt my feelings.
Um I didn't threaten you, just stated the facts that you better hope your statements on here are true, or Ms. Brown will have quite a case against you for slander.
 
As far as this profile goes, No way would I tell you my real name and put my family at risk by the likes of you. This will be my last post, and you can consider this one person that you did NOT convince with your bogus "Rip Off" report.  It's easy to see how childish you are by your angry, hate filled posts. Neither you, or this hateful display of spite is worthy of a response. Nuff said!
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Dirty rider....

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

I asked you questions to which you did not answer..did you see the vet statement giving Iceman a clean bill of health...??? No you didn't...I know because I was told about it first hand...!!! So you say the pens were weed free and clean..BS...shiloh's pen is not weed free and neither are the others...Where are your pics to prove your point dirty rider..??? That's right Nancy wouldn't let anyone take pics..lmao. Serious repercussions for who..??? Everyone who is telling the truth or for everyone involved with Ms Brown ... I say it would be her as we have all the proof and facts and you are just to stupid to figure it out for yourself..!!! As you stated you only have visited the farm and never spent any time there..so instead of trying to threaten me and the others with your empty threats go play on your little scooter and leave this to the ones who want to see the animalts taken care of the right way...Btw...I waited until others came forward and till we had enough proof and evidence to show misconduct and negligence on the part of Ms Brown ...common sense or is that something you lack also...Get rid of the fake profile and stand up like a man to talk to me, unless you have something to hide...?????
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#81 Consumer Comment

Re: Of Course

AUTHOR: Dirt Bike Rider - (United States of America)

Well that was going to be my last post, but since you asked me, I will state again. All the pens looked great, no they were no grown up as you are saying, as a matter of fact the whole place looked wonderful. Every animal my family and I saw looked happy, healthy and well cared for. There was a few that seemed nervous because of us, but that is understandable, considering Full Moon Farm is a rescue/sanctuary.
I saw people interacting with Iceman he was getting pets and he was loving all over people. If you look at the Full Moon Farms album you will read where they state, and I quote "Ice was given a clean bill of health by Dr. Beverly last week." So Mr. Landreth I do have the facts, and I have seen for my own eyes. How long has it been since you have been there? A year?

Let me also ask you this, You (James) are the Ex caretaker, also those private emails are dated last year. If you were truly concerned about the animals and their well being, why did you wait a whole year to bring this up?
No I have not volunteered there but, nor do I know how Ms. Brown treats her volunteers. But by reading all these posts by you and past volunteer's and board members, it seems to me that all of you claim she is hard to get along with, which kinda confirms the whole "personal vendetta" for me.

And to you N. Rodgers, There are plenty of albums on the Facebook page, showing all the animals not just 5 or 6. Go look for yourself, or better yet go visit, it's open to the public.

People the fact is, and if you can't admit this you may need to re-think your priority's. This is being handled the WRONG way. As I have said already, If you people have hard evidence against Ms. Brown, then take it to the proper authorities, they and only they are judge, jury, and executioner. This example here, and the Facebook page made goes to show that some people got their feelings hurt, and disgruntled ex employees are out for revenge. This is public slander plain and simple. You guys had better have your "facts" straight, because I see
serious repercussions to each and everyone of you.
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#82 Consumer Comment

Howlin

AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)

I looked at the pictures of the howlin I would like to see recent pictures of all the animals and the enclosures not just 5 or 6 animals.

N. Rodgers
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#83 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Of course...

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

Well of course dirt biker..Nancy is very good at covering up and only letting people see what she wants them to see..did you ask if Iceman had seen a vet.??? Or did you pet him to see if all the tumors are gone..?? Of course not...As for the deputy she has a way of spinning every thing to benefit her and the farm. Were all the H/C enclosures mowed and neat..no. Have you worked and seen what things are really like when people are not around...no..!!! Go volunteer at the farm for a couple of months and see and then you will learn what she is really like not just when she puts her best foot forward ..!!!! Everything we have said and have proof for will come to light real soon, and as you and others will see things are not as they seem to be..learn the facts before you comment!
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#84 Consumer Comment

My observations at Howl In yesterday

AUTHOR: Dirt Bike Rider - (United States of America)

With all these allegations, and since I am local I wanted to see for myself since it had been a while since my family and I had been to Full Moon Farms.

As we pulled up we noticed a Deputy's car parked at the entrance, when I questioned this I was told it was because, someone I believe the Ex caretaker above had sent all this info all over the internet, including to extreme animal rights groups like PETA and some even more extreme groups. To me that is WRONG! Again putting the lives of the animals in danger.

We asked a staff member could we see the lower level, because in this accusation it was told that no one was allowed down there. Well this is untrue, we were took on a private tour and we would like to Thank the wonderful staff member that showed us around.
We also asked to see Iceman, the wolfdog that was said to be hidden covered in mud and his own feces. What we saw was a happy healthy boy not hidden at all, as a matter of fact you can see his pen along with a few others from the top of the hill, and as well as you walk down the driveway. He was also being visited by his sponsor, we were told and seemed over joyed. Yes he was in a 10X10 but we noticed his and all the pens were clean and well kept. We also saw that efforts were being made to build larger enclosures for those animals. 

So may I suggest before anyone passes judgement, see for yourself, don't believe something just because it's posted on the internet. They also say a picture is worth a thousand words. so I suggest that everyone in doubt go look at the pictures I saw posted today by Full Moon Farms Facebook page, what you will see is happy healthy animals, not ones being abused. 

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.417621274937433.102896.208635945835968&type=1
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#85 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fuzzy godmother..!!!

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

Miss fuzzy..seems to me you know nothing about the situation at FMF ,you just want to shoot your mouth off about things you have no knowledge of..I. have proven myself to everyone...As for your comments about my past...screw you, its in the past and I am more of a rescuer and animal person than you will ever be..!!You do not know what happened at the farm,I did and lived it..!!! Nancy has been lying through her teeth to any one who will listen and you are gullible enough to believe her...so sad.!!! Go ahead and rant and rave and spread Nancy's lies...in the end the truth will be proven and you will look like a fool.....James
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#86 Consumer Comment

You have no idea

AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)

Rescues have been contacted and there are things in place for these animals so the homework is done, but thank you for the info. There is a line of people standing by to be there when the animals are taken. No one is taking this light hardheartedly, nor should they.

Everyone keeps bitching and making accusations about the caretaker James being a convicted felon. because he had a shady past makes him not credible? What about the other volunteers that have quit what about the board of directors that tried to fix these problems but Nancy would not have a thing to do with it? Why are you harping on one person. Oh, because he is the only one that you can slam?
I hope they put you in a 10x10 cage with feces and mud up to your ass covered in mange with tumors  all over your body and stick you behind a shack so no one can see you.

You people are the ones making it personal, not the people that are coming forward.

Get over yourselves, find something else to b*tch about already!
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#87 General Comment

Not easy running a rescue

AUTHOR: Another wolf-dog rescue - (United States of America)

I am very concerned about the fate of the wolfdogs. I too have a rescue and know how much work it is and how much sacrifice is involved in running such a facility. To those who think other facilities will take the healthy animals you are living in a dream world. Most wolf-dog rescues turn away hundreds of animals because they simply do not have the resources to take any more animals in. Upwards of 90% of exotic animals in need of a home end up being euthanized because there is no place for them to go to. I just want the people that are "railing" against Nancy and Full Moon Farms to realize that you will be directly responsible for the animals' fate. You need to do your homework and contact facilities you think will take them. I think you will be alarmed at the response you will get. It will be much more productive for the animals if you try to assist them where they are. If you are not ready to open a rescue yourself then you should not be throwing stones at someone who has put their life into rescuing these animals. You are misguided and need to researdh this issue more completely.
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#88 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Character Assassination

AUTHOR: furry godmother - (United States of America)

No normal person would allow a convicted felon into their home.  For those who do not understand why, it's because a convicted felon is NOT trustworthy and has NO credibility.  Yet these people who claim they are for the animals would rather trust a felon than Ms. Brown.  That tells me all I need to know about them and their motivations.   Is Mr. Landreth going to care for ALL of those animals?  I don't think so.  Are those backstabbers going to care for ALL those animals?  I don't think so.  Those people don't care if some of the wolfdogs are destroyed.  Seems they want Ms. Brown and Full Moon Farm destroyed.  Shame on them.

BTW:  Did anyone FORCE Mr. Landreth to live at Full Moon Farm?  I don't think so.  So they should stop crying about his living conditions.  If what he says is true, why did he stay there?   As far as I know, Ms. Brown isn't running a charity hotel for transients.

Also, I am NOT Nancy Brown and I have never met all these "aliases" who claim to be in the know.  They are afraid to come into the open.  I won't give my name because I do not wish to be harassed by people making wild accusations.  Also, their FB page is nonsense (and I'm being polite).  They state it's not personal.  Yes it is.  Destruction is always personal.  They may get some of these animals destroyed and if that happens, they will NEVER, NEVER be forgiven. 

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#89 Consumer Comment

If this is true!

AUTHOR: Concerned Citizen - (United States of America)

I do not know Nancy Brown nor have I ever been to this place but if this is true and it appears to be true given the amount of employess information I do wish the best for the animals.

I do not see personal vendetta as people are claiming. I have also seen the facebook page and i did see pictures of people petting and handeling the animals. This is so disheartening i hope everyone that is coming forward is turning their evidence over to the proper authorities. Not much I can do for anyone since i am just learning about this. But if it is the truth I really want to see someone save these animals.
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#90 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Via former employee member of the board

AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)

Don't stop posting to everyone you can think of.
I sincerely believe in my heart that 2/3 of the now 85 animals-yes-she took in three more-could be adopted or placed with another sanctuary. Contrary to what some are thinking, we don't want all of the animals euthanized-we want them in a better living situation and many could find forever homes.

There are those of us who worked tirelessly for a six month period to bring Nancy on board with positive changes and vetting for the animals. Two statements stand out in my mind-like any hoarder-she doesn't want to give up control or have anyone "touch her sh*t" and she has stated that" I don't need anyone telling me how to treat my woofers, I know them better than anyone else!"

Obviously that is not working. Another thing she has stated repeatedly is that she is done, she just wants to sell the place. Obviously the statement, no matter how many times it is said is not true, or she would have all ready put it on the market.

We are also (come to find out) the third board who has tried to make changes and ended up being blamed for Nancy's inability. Many kept records. All are willing to turn their documents over to the authorities. It occurs to me that if Nancy really and truly cared for these animals, that she would be willing to step down.
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#91 General Comment

I see Personal Vendetta

AUTHOR: Dirt Bike Rider - (United States of America)

It's so easy to see through this for what it is. "Personal Vendetta"
If you people have incriminating evidence against Ms. Brown then why not take it to the proper authorities? Let them handle it.
Instead you put the lives of these animals at stake this way? These are accusations only, everyone is innocent until proven guilty last time I looked.
I also ask this, are all you on here that are in support of this accusation willing to step up and take all the animals in, find them sanctuary because of what you have started? I'm sure this facility is struggling in this economy, and now may loose much needed donations because of this.
Have any of you thought about what kind of chaos you may have created for those animals because of this public slander?
Or wait let me answer for you, NO! You are only thinking of yourselves and you "Personal Vendetta" 
Also is it not against the law to post private emails? Real tacky in my opinion either way.
When this place shuts down because of you, I sure hope you can sleep at night knowing the blood of those animals is on your hands!

I have seen Full Moon Farm first hand, many times it is a wonderful place, the animals are all happy and healthy. During Howl In's they only let sponsors on the lower levels, this is for the safety of the people and animals. They will also take you down for a tour if you ask a staff member. It is not a "Petting Zoo" as stated above, no one is allowed near the animals. It is a Sanctuary.  
Oh and I also saw the Facebook page which I'm sure one of you created, just more proof of what this really is. You people need to grow up and handle things the adult way, and know that people will see you for what you really are by doing things like this. If you do have hard evidence (which I doubt you do) then take it where it belongs and stop this childish slander.
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#92 Consumer Comment

Are you serious?

AUTHOR: N. Rodgers - (United States of America)

Really, free housing? Wrong he lived with no electricity, hardly ever any running water because Nancy wanted to keep the bills down. He worked his ass off at the farm. His criminal record that Nancy knew about when she hired him. So that blows your post out of the water. He didnt hide anything from nancy and when he left the farm from the emails posted i see here it was on good terms. And he worked 24/7 at that farm so that is not free housing! You people are sadistic if you think this is acceptable and you have never been to the farm and seen the entire property. WAKE THE HELL UP! Save an animal who needs to be rescued!
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#93 Consumer Comment

Re: Character assasination

AUTHOR: Katelynn - (United States of America)

Ms. Brown, you keep pointing out James has a vendetta but you fail to mention the rest of the volunteers that have come forward including 2 former board members.

No one wants to take over Full Moon Farm, what we do want is a full investigation into your activities. The care of the animals, the misappropriation of funds. You Ms. Brown are sadly mistaken if you think anyone of the people coming forward want to run the farm. They don't, they want the animals to have the best possible chance at a good life being well cared for, fed properly, routine vetrinary care and socialization. And we also want to make sure that not one more person is bitten by another of your animals because of your stupidity.

Stop hiding under an alias name to cover your ass, why will you not allow anyone to bring cameras into the howlin? Why do you not allow people onto the three levels of the farm? Why are you hiding sick animals behind buildings and not getting them vet care? Please tell us, it's okay you can use your alias. We already know which post are yours.

Kate
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#94 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Character Assassination

AUTHOR: furry godmother - (United States of America)

What does Mr. Landreth have to gain?  Revenge.  He lost free housing for himself, his girlfriend and his dogs.  He proved himself to be a liar.  Speaking of liars, "Michele" is another one.  She stated all the volunteers have left.  That is NOT true.  These people are backstabbers.  They claimed to be Ms. Brown's friends and then when their little power grab didn't work, they abandoned the animals and started this campaign to discredit Ms. Brown.  They don't care about the animals or they wouldn't have deserted them.  They covet what they can't have.  If they want their own WD rescue, then they need to start their own with their own monies.  Since they can't have Full Moon Farm, they would rather destroy it and the animals.
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#95 Consumer Comment

Re: Character assasination

AUTHOR: Katelynn - (United States of America)

What does Mr. Landreth have to gain. He is not the only person coming forward or have you not noticed? The original emails between he and Nancy Brown about his departure is posted on this page.

Nancy you really should stop with trying to defend yourself using aliases. You can change the style in which it is written but the words are the same. And the information your posting you would only be privy to so stop already. And go take care of the animals, get in the trenches take Iceman to the vet please.

Gigs up, time to rescue some wolf-dogs

Kate
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#96 Consumer Comment

Birds of a feather "Kat"

AUTHOR: Katelynn - (United States of America)

You have stated here that you have never stepped foot onto the property.But the people here and on the Facebook Page have been down in the trenches with these animals.

Do you even know that there are 3 levels to the property, some of which are not accessible to the general public or people on tour? Do you know about Iceman hidden behind a building with mange and tumors so bad that he cant stand to be touched. Do you know about Chance, the dog Nancy tried to euthanize with Ketamine. He didn't go down as expected so she left him to suffer over night until she could take him to the vet and have him properly euthanized? The volunteers thought he was going to suffocate through the night.

Her own words have come back to bite her. Do tell Kat how does a tumor on the back of a dogs tongue get so bad that it looks like a prickly pair before you noticed something was wrong? Stick a golf ball in your mouth and try to swallow.

Here let me share with you what is on Facebook that is not posted here, and then lets get to another matter at hand Kat, how about the pictures of your animals. Shall we post those here or on Facebook Kat? Birds of a feather!

All of this information is on Facebook located here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Truth-About-Full-Moon-Farm-in-Black-Mountain-NC/467670526581380

Email from Nancy

  From: Nancy LaPorta BrownSent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:49 PMTo: fmf_volunteers@yahoogroups.comSubject: [fmf_volunteers] Another Star in the Sky today As suspected, Dakota II - aka Dakotdiak - had an inoperable tumor.  It was unlike anything that Dr. Dillman, (71 years old), had ever seen.  It looked like a prickley pear, about the size of a golf ball, attached to the back of his tongue.  There was nothing we could do.

He had a fabulous morning, so happy to see Pam and Dave.  He crawled in Pam's lap for scritches.  We took a crate in early, did chores for a while, and Pam and Dave took high value treats in.  They fed a few to da boyz, and then put some in the crate.  He walked right in.  He never fussed or fretted.  Dave and Richard carried him to my vehicle, and Pam and I took off.  We had to wait a while, as there was a rabies clinic, and he was calm.  Once inside, I got a slip lead on him, and a muzzle.  we administered Dormitor, and got him into the Xray room.  (I stepped on the damn pedal and took an Xray shot of air!)  Dr. D. was looking around and gasped.  Dakota ate this morning and woofed down his treats.  How, is beyond all of us.
I know in my heart that he knew, and he was ready.  He wasn't ready two weeks ago, but today he was.
Please keep Kodiak in your prayers.  The have been together for a long time.
<sigh>
Nancy


Former member of the board of directors statement Lynda Nicols
Resignation Letter and Explanation


At the time of my admittance to the board, Nancy Laporta-Brown informed me that my treasury position was to only include documentation of donations and charitable contributions.. Several donors have asked why they have not received their tax letters for charitable donations, and I have no record of such donation even being made. 

I have never seen a financial statement, nor been provided the means to create one. This leads me to the next item; salaries. Repeatedly stated, no one at Full Moon Farm, Inc. receives a salary, and yet, in the next breath, Nancy Laporta-Brown states she has not received an income since 2009(or 2004, depending on statements and/or emails made by Miss Brown) This holds no credibility when Miss Brown lives in a very nice house, drives a well maintained vehicle, purchases organic, natural foods, pays her electric bill, has Internet access, 4 separate phone lines, eats out a minimum of 4 times a week, ect, ect; questions are raised and I have no explanations. 

There is no financial accountability. The farm files a 990, which basically means, the monies made are stated, not fact. All cash donations are held by Miss Brown, and only Miss Brown, who is accountable to no one. 

This does not mean, Miss Brown can not be paid by Full Moon Farm, Inc. for the work provided, but, it does mean that an honest, up front salary is created, and a paycheck issued, weekly. 

At this point, a CPA should be in charge of the treasury job at Full Moon Farm, Inc. 

Personal friends of mine have made substantial donations to Full Moon Farm, Inc., and those donations were not used for the designated purpose.

Example: Michele Nagle donated $340.00, pursuant to a plea posted on Face book, in regards to animal spay and neuters. The only animal neutered was Daegen. The others are still intact. 

No explanation for why no other animal was spayed/neutered, as the money was directed for. It is disheartening and to me; dishonest, as I inadvertently accepted money for a specific need, and that need went unmet. 

Everything I have done for Full Moon Farm, Inc. was honest, up front, and done with compassion for the dogs residing on your property. After my home burned down, I donated $100 dollars to FMF for the dog food UPC tags that burned, I paid my $200 for Board Insurance(which is still not purchased, and I am no longer part of) I also gave an additional $200 for the used printer that was given to me by Miss Brown for FMF work, and burned in the fire.

I received no acknowledgment nor receipt of this.
I have been unable to write a grant during my time with FMF, due to the following:
No Financial Statements
Goals
Detailed plans for reaching granting goals
Breakdown of what the grant will be used for.
Long term sustainability of funding
As well as no yearly budgets.
No guarantee considering the lack of financial disclosure what the money would be used for. 

Animal care, is another issue I am going to speak of. We have daily check sheets, to which, no one reads. Miss Brown frequently misses issues regarding mobility, eating, bowels or behavioral issues, due to lack of due diligence.

Dakota is case in point. Dakota's condition was verbal as well as written, by multiple volunteers, myself included. No veterinairy care was provided until it was to late to save the dog. A golf ball size tongue tumor does not appear overnite. The amount of discomfort to try and swallow food, drink, or as we all saw, swallow your own saliva, must have been incredible. It was ignored, and if you believe Miss Brown, FMF's veterinarian also ignored it. I spoke with my personal vet, and he stated that a call in regards to any animal, drooling, would have been an immediate office visit, not dose and run, as he called it.

This leads me to the next issue, practicing veterinary medicine with out a license. Not only is this a Class 1 Misdemeanor, it runs per count. Meaning every act is prosecuted as a separate act, ten pills, ten counts, ten illness' missed, another ten counts, ext, ext.

Add to this, not one person on FMF property is a licensed veterinarian, none have the knowledge or training, persuent to the law, to diagnose and treat a medical condition. 

Sadly, something as simple as, dosing an animal, without an accurate weight, and you are doing more damage than not.

Now, we also have animals that you do not need to be a veterinarian to see something is seriously wrong. Animals with hip dysplasia, watching them move is painful, an animal covered in tumors and showing signs of mange, coats that are matted and filthy, open lesions and hot spots, allergies untreated, severe ear damage from flies, fleas, ticks, ect. When asked about prevention, the comment given was to mow the lawn to prevent ticks, high contents are not bothered by fleas, and the untouchables can't be treated.

What is the quality of life? We are responsible for not only their basic needs, but enrichment and socialization. This is not mercy, it is neglect.

The sheer number of animals is one of the biggest factors within your problems. There are mental issues with several red zone animals. Autumn can only be handled by two people, if one comes once a week, she is lucky. That means she spends 312 days alone (if not more).

There are so many animals on this property, there is no time to finish all chores for care and to socialize with the animals. If you give each of the 83 animals on the property ten minutes, that equates to 13 hours in one day, for one person.

There are no standards for adoptions or outtakes for animals that should not be at a sanctuary. No standard of care, or euthanasia guidelines.

Instead, an Animal Communicator tells FMF when an animal is ready to end its life, instead of allowing a veterinarian to educate you on that animals quality of life and treatment options.

There are also personal animals housed at FMF. Banjo was purchased at 9 days old, Aries was 4 months old. These were pups, chosen by Miss Brown, to be owned and cared for, as her own animals. The 501(c)3 now provides all care for both animals. Miss Brown is still hoping to breed Aries who has lost his bite inhibition and is becoming kennel crazed.

3 unreported dog bites have occurred in the last 4 months. This is a $500 dollar fine, per bite, along with misdemeanor charges, and possible other legal issues, as all bites are to be recorded and all animals quarantined, per the state of North Carolina. 

This is a sanctuary, and needs to be run in the best interest for the animals you choose to accept and care for. Quality versus Quantity. 

It was my hope that FMF went to the next level, with a strong board, people working together and animals receiving the care they deserve. 

The continued lies, rumors, deception, drama, ect, have made it clear, that the past will continue into the future.

The appalling care of the caretaker, was the final straw. Working from dawn until well after dark, verbal abuse, no money, many times no food, no running water, no heat, etc, all while, a perfectly habitable cabin is 300 feet away. Then, to turn him into a sordid, lie filled story, to make you look better, even more disgusting. This speaks to not only your lack of moral compass, but your vindictiveness.

That was the moment I was done. You have lost several good volunteers; ones there for the right reasons, along with the support of people who not only donated, but also validated your reputation, myself included. That is over now.

What I see happening at FMF upsets me on not only an emotional level, but a moral one, as well. I will do what I can to see these animals are cared for in the was they deserve and need.

On a legal note, we are all potentially facing serious trouble for our knowledge and lack of follow through with reporting.

At the end of the day, it is about those dogs, and that is it. Do the right thing by them, even if it means swallowing your pride, spite and hate. Those dogs have no choice in what you DO get to choose for them.

I resigned from the board, not as a volunteer. Since I was removed from both the board page and volunteer page, this was the only option left to clarify my resignation. Lynda Nicols

This is a show that Nancy Brown describes how she ignored the dogs care. 
She describes how anemic the dog is, the sizes of the tumor they could see on his tongue.
This did not happen overnight!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/animal-alliance-radio/2012/05/11/animal-alliance-radio

Another email 
James TO:Kim Message flaggedThursday, June 30, 2011 8:37 PM Thank You so much for your kind words Kim..We will miss the Farm but not the crap that comes with it!!! I think that we will be searching other Rescues and Sanctuaries to give our time and talents too...It is very sad that one person can hurt and degrade others to the point they want to give up or leave!!!  It breaks my heart that these innocent animals have to suffer through all this..It just isn't right!!!!!  We will be around if you ever need us and we will not be strangers, Thank You Kim..Many blessings....:D   From: KimTo:Sent: Wed, June 29, 2011 9:19:46 PMSubject: James leaving!?   Hey guys....just thought I would give a 'what the hell' out to you about James and Lisa leaving as caretakers. I know we have all been 'here' numerous times although this might be one of the first for Jay. I have not even called Nancy about this whole situation because I have come to feel so defeated when it applies to the Farm and people/ideas that have big ways of 'creating a business, getting all these animals into humane enclosures, working with socialization, adopting out very adoptable animals and so forth'. Have you noticed I did not include Nancy in on this email because well.......I would surely get banned and railed publicly and not feeling that aggro vibe in my Life. I think Dean and Ryan took sensible steps back out of frustration and lack of creating a big difference because of Nancy. She is truly her own worse enemy and completely self-sabotaging as a likable human, rescuer and business owner.  A little heads up....since the spring, Nancy has been talking to selected friends about shutting down FMF in Oct/Nov if 'things' do not improve. She has not said this to me personally because I do not call her anymore. I cannot hear the same crying, crispy story she has over and over. I will say here and on record what Sarah H. told me, James, Lisa and Sarah's girlfriend(Jess) this past Monday June 27,2011 when talking about this subject. I asked Sarah what in the world would nancy do with all 80 some dogs if she shuts down?? She told me that she has asked Nancy that same question and that one of Nancy's response is that she would 'put down' the older wolfdogs. This is when Sarah told us "this is when you see me putting more posts about donations, events to donate". Well, I wanted to vomit hearing this. Should we take this as just Nancy running her mouth or serious? Sarah also included that if we asked Nancy about this 'remark'  then Nancy would deny it. I am not including Sarah in this email because I do not truly know where she stands in regard to Nancy....although listening to her on Monday she will share what the two of them have talked about. I will stand by this statement though because I feel that as an incredible hypocritical, self serving, demented attitude to her 'rescue animals.'  With that said, here we go with 'another caretaker that Nancy will micro manage and run into the ground or submission'.....in no way do I feel that she has the best interest of the dogs or people involved. Heard nasty little stories about how she was willing to let you go Sharon after that whole Alison F. ordeal(via Sarah H.). After 3 years volunteering I am shocked FMF has lasted as long as it has....she truly has a difficult and dysfuntional time dealing with people.  If it comes to me  telling this all to Nancy I WILL but hope this will be in confidentiality. I truly care about sooooo many of the animals out there. I also want to be present if 'the shit hits the fan' and she is eauthanizing animals and dispersing the rest to rally for their defense.   Even though I talked personally with today James, I wanted to say THANK YOU again for giving the last year of your Life to FMF. I believe you had the wolfdogs best interest in your heart at all times and your vision for their better livelihood is inspiring. You could not have been a better caretaker and any rescue organization will be so fortunate to have your love, dedication and work ethic:) I look forward to seeing you volunteering at FMF, hopefully for many years to come my friend! Much love and respect....Kim

Another Rant, how in Gods name could a caretaker/volunteer that receives no pay come up with this kind of money?
----- Forwarded Message -----From: "jamesTo:Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:19 PMSubject: Fw: Pens, interaction and more... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "Nancy Brown" <wolfmommy></wolfmommy>Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:00:30 -0400To: sharonSubject: Re: Pens, interaction and more... Folks, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.. We have no insurance, there will be no more interaction with any high content, questionable animal, by anyone - per my attorney. In fact, I am considering shutting it down, and may have to , after you read the rest of this email... Think long and hard folks - my second mortgage is late.  The property taxes are late.  My job as a real estate broker comes to a halt today, at 5:00, as I cannot pay my dues of $525.00 - hence I have no way of making any income.  The farm owners policy of $615.00 must be paid today, or that calls my mortgage due.  My electric bill, telephone, satellite, cell phone are all over due. So Trey - can you come up with $125,000?  Can any of you?  I'll sell the property and all for $250,000.  Step up to the plate folks!  Ludicrous? I have carried this to the tune of more than a half of a million dollars for the last 9 years.  I have no income, no chance of any income no 401, no retirement plan, no partner, spouse, husband or wife to foot my bills.  My kids are all pissed off because I am broke and cannot pay my bills. Cheryl worked for no money.  James works for no money and I have worked for no money.  If pens were built with the materials on the ground, instead of play time with the dogs, we would not have so many animal in 10 x 10's.  Put up or shut up.  Someone buy me out, or help me shut it down - those are the options.  $2,000 cash to me today by 3:00 is what is needed.  The farm may be solvent in some respects, but I own the property and if I loose the property the farm is no more.  If I drop dead from a stress heart attack, the farm is no more. Trey - I am Full Moon Farm, and I stand to loose everything, and a lot of animals stand to loose their lives.  Ask your mom, since January of 2008 I have begged for some help in getting grants, funding, a working board of experienced people, and I have failed.  So that failure means we all loose. ~Nancy   From Trey - Hey Nancy, this is Trey, I did take Cory into Autumns pen only because Autumn likes Cory, just like Ishkara or Alison. If anybody, I would be the first to know If Autumn posed a threat to someone due to the fact I spend more time with her than anyone else. If I least bit felt that anything negative could have resulted from the experience I wouldn't have allowed it. I do not "antagonize"  Mi'je, I've been working with her through targeting commands to teach her positive reinforcement. In the advent that someone whom Mi'je does not know where to venture to close she would now most likely sniff them which I've taught her to do, instead of biting. I feel that you are not there enough to truly see how we interact with the animals resulting in you're perception of them based solely on you're personal experience with them, for example "Autumn hates Nancy therefore Autumn hates everyone and is considered dangerous." Imposing a hands off would be detrimental to all we've worked for. I understand it applying to new volunteers and the public, but for you're actual Volunteers, "people that actually come up there every weekend" I find it ludicrous. From: sharonSent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 2:08 PMTo: TreySubject: Re: Pens, interaction and more... All of us which are regular volunteers, know that if we are bitten and have to go to the Dr.  not to say that we were bitten by one of the guys at the farm.I would never do or say anything to jeopardize you the farm or the animals there. I also think since I have been volunteering, and now that we have more regular dedicated volunteers that understand the animals and their behavior, I can say that the animals are 100 times better socially and that's because we interact with them, walk them and so forth. Volunteering is hard work and I think our pay is being able to interact with the animals, imposing a hands off means I can't go up and see Mi'je, Aries, Mya. Tatonka, that's devastating to me.I do understand that new volunteers and visitors should not be hands on with the animals because they don't know them or their behavior.Nancy I love you too, and I feel like you are the same as my family, I have never or would never do anything intentionally behind your back. The decisions I make at the farm when you are not there are based on my best intentions for the animals, and based on my knowledge of them. I feel like in the 4 years that I have been coming, by now I should know what I'm doing, if not then I don't need to be there. I'm sorry if you feel disappointed by us and what we do, but that was never our intentions.I had woke up this morning feeling really good about yesterday, we worked hard got the chores done then took, Zen, Wraith, Sofia and Dodger for a walk, again I apologize if that was wrong, and I am sorry.     --- On Sun, 3/13/11, Nancy Brown <wolfmommy></wolfmommy> wrote:From: Nancy Brown <wolfmommy></wolfmommy>Subject: Pens, interaction and more... Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 12:12 PM We no longer have liability insurance.  I will start locking the high content pens, to keep people out. Trey - if there is something that you do not want me to know about, the DON'T DO IT!  I understand you took Corey into Autumn's pen, and then did not want me to know about it, and that is not acceptable. I am very disappointed that things are being done without my knowledge.  I am not trying to be a bitch here, but it must be understood that the buck stops at me - I am the one who would loose everything.  One bite, one incident that requires hospitalization, shuts us down, and I loose my property.  The dogs will die, as there is no place for them to go, and my property will be seized for payment of debts, after I get my ass sued off. I will post to the volunteer list that hands off if now in effect.  Please do not antagonize Mi'je and making her growl.  Please exercise caution around Mya, especially if I am on the property, and keep everyone away from Banjo, as he is getting moodier and moodier. We will be having a board meeting the last weekend of the month, and now protocols will be put into effect.  Please send me your ideas soon. I am very thankful to all of you, and love you all like family - (maybe better than family at times!) - so please do not take any of this personal.  If I do not start running this like a business, it will all be shut down, when I drop dead of a heart attack from the stress of it all.  If I die, loose the property or go insane, more than 80 animals are screwed. 



EMAIL REGARDING JAMES DEPARTURE

My Leaving.......read from the bottom email to top..!!!!..................... Hello All...I just wanted to say what a pleasure it was to get to know each and every one of you. I will keep this short for obvious reasons..Me and Lisa will be leaving tomorrow for good,after we do our chores and say our goodbyes to the wolfers we will be headed out...We love each and every one of you and will miss you...Thank You for everything!!!! Many blessings, 
James&Lisa
From: "jameslandreth
To: Nancy Browne
Cc: Sharon Greene 
Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 10:42:22 PM
Subject: Re: Things

I will know better in the next few days.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Nancy Brown" 
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:40:33 
To: <jameslandreth95@yahoo.com>
Cc: Sharon Greene; Jay Alcombright; Allison Frady; Mish Frankl; Sarah Hallback, Pam and Dave Michael Kim Tulloss-Smith
Subject: Re: Things

Effective date?

--------------------------------------------------
From: <jameslandreth95@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:19 PM
To: "Nancy Brown"
Cc: "Sharon Greene" ; "Jay Alcombright" 
; "Allison Frady" ; 
"Mish Frankl" ; "Sarah Hallback" ; "Pam and Dave Michael" ; "Kim 
Tulloss-Smith"
Subject: Re: Things

> Dear Nancy and everyone here...It has taken me a few day's to write this, 
> I love the animals and you all so much and I thank each of you for all you 
> have given me and Lisa..with that said I resign as caretaker with the 
> deepest regret and sadness. Thank You All,
> James
> ------Original Message------
> To: Nancy Brown
>
> Subject: Re: Things
> Sent: Jun 25, 2011 9:53 AM
>
> Nancy...I wish that you would have sat and talked this out before this 
> post. James
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Nancy Brown
> To: jameslandreth
>
> Subject: Things
> Sent: Jun 25, 2011 5:35 AM
>
> June 25, 2011 Dear James, It has become apparent that your time with 
> Full Moon Farm is coming to an end. I have several requests of you: 1.) 
> Be professional. Enough of the Facebook posting. Every negative thing 
> you post affects the dogs. If it is about the dogs, then make it so. 
> 2.) Advise me of the times you will be away from the property, the needs 
> of the animals, and your estimated date of departure. 3.) Continue to 
> perform your duties until your replacement can be found and trained. It 
> is my understanding that you are making arrangements to leave already. 
> 4.) Full Moon Farm has been an incorporated business since 2002. We will 
> continue on. I am most appreciative of your service for the past 10 
> months, and only wish you well. As life goes on, we all know that people 
> and things change. I harbor no ill feelings, and wish you the best of 
> life in your next adventure. In gratitude, and in Peace. ~Nancy

There have been multiple animals that have had to be put to sleep because they were to far gone in regards to their health. If they were being checked regularly by the vet then their health would have never gotten that bad. There is an animal on the property covered in tumors that is not being treated by a vet, the only place on this animals body you can even touch him is on his head because he is in too much pain covered in tumors. Also there are multiple animals that have not been spayed or neutered but Nancy has money to buy organic groceries and dine out on a regular basis.
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Cynthia Claassens WTH!!!!!
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Barbie Nemeth thats what I said????
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Wolf Man No wonder nothing changes up there...!!!!
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Lynda Nichols The animals you see on the tour are not all of the animals. Three of those animals you have seen have bitten someone within the last three months and Ms Brown told that person that if she required a Dr.s care-to say it happened at home. It is illegal to not report an animal bite. You have never been down the hill and seen those animals.
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Hello,
 Don't want to go personally public with this. But, with either Mystic or Chewey. Says they got bloat, but one of them kept getting out, and no human could go near them. They got out about 2/3 times could barely trap them. Had to be tricked to go into a different pen. Nancy got word from a local farmer, that the dog was hurrassing some of there animals and since nancy could not catch her, she ended up telling the farmer if she tries to kill any go ahead and shoot her. Whish ended up happening being shot. But yet she told everyone it was bloat. Big sigh. I do hope something gets done soon. In Regards.xxxx
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The Truth About Full Moon Farm in Black Mountain, NC James here...did anyone catch the fact that Nancy just admitted to having darts and the gun and meds..all of which she has not had the proper training and certs to use and the meds...Where did you get the meds Nancy.??? You do not have a FDA license to buy them,who gave them to you..????? And I don't understand how you could not catch one of your own animals..????? You said you spent 10,000 on going to Cali and a month to do it to catch Shadow and Sunshine...but you had help on that Nancy because you do not know what you are doing cause if you did all that escaped from your house and the farm would have been captured.....I know because that it was I do now....Prove me wrong..?????

What do these people have to gain, NOTHING.....but better care and treatment of these animals.

Sometimes it is not easy to see what is right in our face.

Kate
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#97 Consumer Comment

I call BS

AUTHOR: WRR - (United States of America)

I think Mr. James L. is posting as multiple people here.  I happen to know of some serious problems he created at the Farm and was let go.  Hmmm...lets see if someone would like to expose the real Mr. L. and the truth will be he's out to try and destroy someone who in fact, is doing just what she is supposed to do and  better than most people do it.  
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#98 Consumer Comment

Character Assassination

AUTHOR: furry godmother - (United States of America)

Mr. Landreth was terminated from Full Moon Farm because of poor performance.   Also, because he cannot pass a criminal background check, his credibility is in question.  This is a personal vendetta and character assassination of Ms. Brown by Mr. Landreth.  All he has stated is vicious innuendo because he wants back into the wolfdog community.  He doesn't belong anywhere near rescues. 
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#99 General Comment

understanding

AUTHOR: wolflover - (United States of America)

while i have not visited FMF, i have seen and heard from plenty that it is a wonderful place for wolfdogs to live out their lives. I have to agree with several of the people here by saying, when you have that many animals, especially hard to transport, hard to care for, hard to wrangle animals, then you have to medicate them without taking them to a vet sometimes. vetting is so expensive, and for minor skin issues/hot spots, etc. it really is okay to not run them to the vet for every single thing. if you can treat them yourself and have a good idea of what is going on with them, then that's a positive for them. not stressing them out to run them to the vet for every little thing, etc. anyway, while i dont really see eye to eye with the owner of the sanctuary, and i've had my run ins with her myself, i will stand by the sanctuary, becauase i truly think she has their best intrest at heart. is she burnt out? possibly. wouldnt you be? but i think the animals are completely safe, and there have been no escapes and no "accidents", so i dont understand that. the attitude of the owner could be adjusted quite a bit, and she might not get so much negative stigma if she were to tone down her attitude a bit, but over all, i disagree with everything else that was stated in the original reports. i just dont buy it all. sorry.
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#100 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Kat....

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

 FROM ONE OF THE VOLUNTEERS.......... Hey guys....just thought I would give a 'what the hell' out to you about James and Lisa leaving as caretakers. I know we have all been 'here' numerous times although this might be one of the first for Jay. I have not even called Nancy about this whole situation because I have come to feel so defeated when it applies to the Farm and people/ideas that have big ways of 'creating a business, getting all these animals into humane enclosures, working with socialization, adopting out very adoptable animals and so forth'. Have you noticed I did not include Nancy in on this email because well.......I would surely get banned and railed publicly and not feeling that aggro vibe in my Life. I think Dean and Ryan took sensible steps back out of frustration and lack of creating a big difference because of Nancy. She is truly her own worse enemy and completely self-sabotaging as a likable human, rescuer and business owner. 
  A little heads up....since the spring, Nancy has been talking to selected friends about shutting down FMF in Oct/Nov if 'things' do not improve. She has not said this to me personally because I do not call her anymore. I cannot hear the same crying, crispy story she has over and over. I will say here and on record what Sarah H. told me, James, Lisa and Sarah's girlfriend(Jess) this past Monday June 27,2011 when talking about this subject. I asked Sarah what in the world would nancy do with all 80 some dogs if she shuts down?? She told me that she has asked Nancy that same question and that one of Nancy's response is that she would 'put down' the older wolfdogs. This is when Sarah told us "this is when you see me putting more posts about donations, events to donate". Well, I wanted to vomit hearing this. Should we take this as just Nancy running her mouth or serious? Sarah also included that if we asked Nancy about this 'remark'  then Nancy would deny it. I am not including Sarah in this email because I do not truly know where she stands in regard to Nancy....although listening to her on Monday she will share what the two of them have talked about. I will stand by this statement though because I feel that as an incredible hypocritical, self serving, demented attitude to her 'rescue animals.'
  With that said, here we go with 'another caretaker that Nancy will micro manage and run into the ground or submission'.....in no way do I feel that she has the best interest of the dogs or people involved. Heard nasty little stories about how she was willing to let you go Sharon after that whole Alison F. ordeal(via Sarah H.). After 3 years volunteering I am shocked FMF has lasted as long as it has....she truly has a difficult and dysfuntional time dealing with people.  If it comes to me  telling this all to Nancy I WILL but hope this will be in confidentiality. I truly care about sooooo many of the animals out there. I also want to be present if 'the shit hits the fan' and she is eauthanizing animals and dispersing the rest to rally for their defense.

   Even though I talked personally with today James, I wanted to say THANK YOU again for giving the last year of your Life to FMF. I believe you had the wolfdogs best interest in your heart at all times and your vision for their better livelihood is inspiring. You could not have been a better caretaker and any rescue organization will be so fortunate to have your love, dedication and work ethic:) I look forward to seeing you volunteering at FMF, hopefully for many years to come my friend!
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#101 Consumer Suggestion

Nothing ventured nothing gained

AUTHOR: Katelynn - (United States of America)

This is ridiculous, I am no one special but someone who cares deeply about all Gods creatures.

I do not understand why these employees/former employees Board of directors would say these things if it were not true. What have they to gain from this?

I have read the reports and first hand testimonies from
these people on the Face Book page located here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Truth-About-Full-Moon-Farm-in-Black-Mountain-NC/467670526581380

Undeniable facts that these animals are and have been for some time now living in horrific conditions.

Maybe not all of them, but even if just one of them is suffering I have a problem with that.

I am going on record right now, that some of the reports on Full Moon Farm that have been posted here on the Rip Off Report are in fact Nancy LaPorta Brown writing her own testimonials and commending the farm.

I am and will continue to be vocal to help these animals, and I ask everyone else to do the same.

I am sure that this does not even scratch the surface and it is my prayer that there will be a full investigation into Ms. Brown. If there is nothing to hide she wouldnt have a problem with that would she?

Kate
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#102 General Comment

This is a Personal Vendetta

AUTHOR: Kat Wolfdancer - (United States of America)

First off, I need to state that I have never physically been to Full Moon Farm. I have, however, been a friend of the Director's, Nancy Brown, and to many of the people who have been there, who have volunteered there, and those who have gone to the Annual Gatherings. I have spent many an hour on the telephone with Nancy since the year 2000. 

In that twelve year span, she has been a wealth of support and education, and a true friend. She has repeatedly gone *above and beyond* to help in placing animals, transporting animals, rescuing animals, and fighting unfair breed-and-species specific legislation against the private ownership of animals. In those twelve years, I have also met in person many people who have been to Full Moon Farm, often at *unscheduled* visits. I have seen -and have saved- many many gigs of pictures of the animals and people whom Nancy has helped. 

The Wolfdog Community is a closed one, and its' members share certain emotional strengths and weaknesses, as do all human Communities. Mostly thanks to the Animal Rights agenda, many people seem wont to believe that "No-one can do it as well as they themselves can", and/or "If they could not *do it* than no-one should be allowed to try" In rescue, many failed rescuers get trapped in a "Beat Cop's Mentality", where, when all you see is Bad Things, you begin to feel as if the world is bad all over. Mr Landreth has personal issues to deal with, and apparently, has decided an unwarranted attack against one of the few good Wolfdog Rescues in the nation is the best way to "Make a name for himself", as well as exact revenge for his dismissal. This often happens when persons have little control over their own lives, they feel they must attack and rise on the backs of the those they slaughter -in this case via character assassination- to have control once more. In Mr Landreth's case, he is willing to destroy an organization which has worked tirelessly to positively impact the lives of unwanted, condemned, or abandoned wolfdogs for no better reason than he was oredered off the property and relieved of his Caretaker duties as a result of his neglectful behavior. This is how he would take his revenge: by maligning the Organization with absolute lies and political spin. 

I have spoken for too many years to too many people who have been there personally to believe any of this complaint against Full Moon Farm. I believe this is a personal vendetta, and would urge anyone who has questions NOT to believe anything this Mr Landreth or Michelle (Last name not provided) have to say, but rather to contact Nancy Brown herself, or better, to schedule an appointment and go see for yourself. 
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#103 General Comment

Utter Nonsense

AUTHOR: Karen - (United States of America)

I have been to Full Moon Farm many times (5 times in one year).  Not once have I seen bad water, moldy kibble, moldy meat or any of the other things mentioned in his report.  I have cleaned pens, spread cedar chips in pens with both friendly and certainly not so friendly animals.  Some have been so abused before coming to Full Moon Farm, they will never trust fully again but only tolerate someone in their pen.

Nancy never stops taking care of the animals even though she is spread very thin.  Her care is beyond almost any rescue I have ever been around.  That includes other breeds.  

His statements are total lies and I can not believe anything this man has to say after reading this nonsense. 
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#104 Consumer Comment

Disagree

AUTHOR: WRR - (United States of America)

I totally disagree with this report. I have been to Full Moon Farm before. Nancy Brown takes excellent care of these animals and goes all out for their safety. I have also been in wolf and wolfdog rescue for 28 years now and know of no other person more dedicated to the well being of these animals.
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#105 General Comment

My interaction with FMF

AUTHOR: Richard - (United States of America)

I guess its time for the accusations ball to land in FMFs court. Anyone whom is involved with canine rescue knows (or should) that it is only a matter of time before you are accused of inadequate housing, feeding, healthcare, and more. This is even more prevalent in Wolfdog rescue since there are even fewer of us and nearly everyone involved is a self proclaimed expert scrambling for recognition on that status.

I have visited FMF several times over the past 5 years and had numerous lengthy conversations with Nancy Brown. I have also visited numerous other Wolfdog rescue facilities in the 25 years I have been involved with Wolfdogs. No Canine rescue facility is perfect and this goes for the highly funded HSUS ones as well. Wolfdog rescue facilities do amazingly well
considering the extreme lack of interest from the public, lack of funds from any outlet, and large target on your back from helping a controversial breed. My findings at FMF have been that they house more animals than nearly any other
facility. Despite this and small staff, the animals seem very well adjusted, healthy, well fed, and happy. Many are even very social, which is actually not common involving Wolfdogs that enter the rescue system due to the fact that
Wolfdogs usually only bond with one person or family and usually come from neglect on top of that. This facility does better than most I have seen housing less than the animals with 3 times the staff.

Addressing individual issues cited..FMF is a 501 non profit licensed facility. USDA/APHIS licensing is not required for Wolfdogs as the federal government classifies them as dogs. I have known other facilities that were licensed despite this and were inspected regularly, and passed with much less containment and nearly no social animals on site. Obtaining this license means little and adds more expense to these rescue facilities that operate primarily in the red and out of the owners pocket anyway. As for feeding neglect, I have not witnessed an underfed animal there that had not just arrived in from a
neglectful environment. Feeding raw meat to Wolfdogs is a very common practice as their protein requirements can be different than other breeds. I have not seen moldy kibble in her food storage or in the animals enclosures. In fact, I
was there when a large shipment came in and helped stack bags of sealed unopened kibble. As for vet care, I have seen the vet there during social visits as well as performing treatments and spoken with her.

I know unless you stay on site at a particular facility 24 hours a day, you will never know everything for sure. This is why we have a system to monitor complaints with local Animal Control Officers that have visited and have not found the above accusations to be credible. I havent witnessed any of the FMF animals in dire needs or suffering. In fact, they all
seem quite happy. Shutting a facility like this down would be for purely personal gain and vindictive reasons. FMF is one of the few educational rescue facilities left for Wolfdogs. Removing this would result in the death of all at that site and leave countless others to suffer the same fate. A real rescuer or person whom cares about the welfare of animals would not target such places with actions like this. They would instead, open their own facility or partner with one that had the items they feel make them better, and take in all the animals first to ensure their safety.
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#106 UPDATE EX-employee responds

No Shame On You

AUTHOR: James L. - (United States of America)

You may not know James, Allison, Sue, Liz, Lynda or any of the volunteers, supporters and members of the board that have seen this facility for what it truly is and have done to fix this situation. 
And you say you know so much, but you have not mentioned the 3 levels of Full Moon Farm, you have not fed the animals, tried to seek medical care for them...sat beside them as they took their last HARD breath but I have and so have many others....so SHAME ON YOU!

Try asking some questions, and getting straight answers....there are none nor are their vet records stating that these dogs were humanly euthanized. I was there...you were not!
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#107 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sue and Vickie

AUTHOR: James - (United States of America)

I just had to respond to your comments.. Both of you only see what Nancy lets you see and you both have not worked for and been around Nancy 24/7.. I am not the only caretaker that feels this way and not the only person who has proof of all that has been said.and written. The reason we have brought all this out is because of the animals..no vet care,poor living conditions and money being taken from the animals which all can and will be proven.  When all of this is proven,what are both of you going to do.. Still support Nancy or support the animals?   We are all about the animals and if people are upset about the truth coming out then the we know where there priorities are!
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#108 Consumer Comment

Full moon is A Wonderful place

AUTHOR: Vicki Spencer - (United States of America)

 These accusations could not possibly be further from the truth. I have been to full Moon farms many times  in the past  and all I can say is the report on this wonderful sancturay is full of nothing but lies.  Nancy has never made a dime on any of these anaimals and for anyone to even insinuate that it would be possible to make money from this type of thing is already in their own little dream world. I also happen to know that what ever is needed for these animals  is given to them not only from donations but anything short always seems to be covered by Nancy personally from her own bank account.

 As far as vet care you say they do not get it but then post photos about all the vet care and surgeries  they have been given.   They can not all be saved and cancer takes people as well. The point is they are not allowed to suffer  and are given medical care . Any one who deals with rescue and even those who have a lot of personal pets will do some of their own basic medical care  which saves the money  for things that only a vet can do. I have to say also I have been at the farm when the vet has been there so we can put those accusations to rest right now as well.

This woman Nancy is well respected in her town and she is open to visitors  and not behind a gate as you put it. Anyone is welcome to visit to see that the words in this complaint are just words of slander & anger. i certainly hope Nancy will consdier a suit against you for slander because your lies are in writing 

 I hope anyone who reads this and has any doubt about Full moon farm would just simply take the time to visit  and then nothing more would need to be said. nancy has a big heart and would have a much easier life without taking in everyones discarded pets. It really upsets me that anyone would accuse her of making money from these animals  that is almost laughable to even think that could happen when you are caring for this many animals.I guess some people love their little dream world inside their heads. 

Nancy always has volunteers but with a labor of love such as this I am sure there is never quite as much help as she would like . But I can gaurantee you if there ever is a day when there is not help at the farm Nancy will see to it that before she eats or settles in for the night every single animal will be fed, watered and given anything it needs for the evening even if she has to do it all herself.

I do not know who you are James but I DO know who Nancy is and shame on YOU!!! 
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#109 Consumer Comment

A regular FMF visitor responds...

AUTHOR: Sue - (United States of America)

Wow. This review is so far "out there" I was tempted not to waste time replying...but then I realised there are lots of people who have never been there and don't know anything about this rescue. So, here's an alternate testimonial.

I've been visiting Full Moon Farm since 2002. I usually get out there at least once or twice a year; some years it's more.
While they DO have around 80 animals to care for (!) --and that says volumes about how little commitment many people have towards their pets--in my experience that's about the only accurate thing in the complaint.

This reads right out of a script: "not providing adequate food, water, shelter, kenneling or vet care". It's like the person was only trying to generate legal fodder.
My personal experience there is in sharp contrast with this. The animals there are fed daily, have always had clean water in their buckets when I have visited, and show evidence of this proper care by their good weights and healthy physiques. I never see a malnourished looking dog there, unless it just came in as a surrender. The animals are fed a mix of kibble and raw meat; the raw meat is necessary for most wolfdogs and the kibble is used to supplement because let's face it, most rescues run on a shoestring budget and can't afford to feed 100% raw. Since I've been "around" the farm so long, when I come, I often pitch in and distribute kibble or help with other chores; the food is kept in sealed containers in a shed, and I've never seen moldy kibble lying around.
Each animal has at least a doghouse; some of the bigger enclosures offer more elaborate play/shelter structures. (I'm not sure what "adequate kenneling" means.)
As we both work within in the wolfdog rescue and education network, I speak with Nancy regularly and it seems they are *always* having the vet out for something. This one needs shots, that new one was neutered, this one's acting "off"--could you have a look at him, and so on. Most dog rescues do try to learn some basic vet tech stuff for themselves, but the vet is a regular visitor at this rescue and, I'm quite sure, could and would give an excellent reference.
FMF does have quite a few seniors, who are allowed to live out their lives as long as they have some *quality* of life and are not in pain. She works hand in hand with the vet to determine when it's "their time to go", and the dogs are then euthanised professionally. Again, I have been there personally for at least one or two of these, and been on the phone with her at other times while she was at the vet's, putting an old or ill one to sleep.

The vast majority of the residents are spayed or neutered; those too old, ill, or otherwise compromised are given a spayed/neutered animal as a companion, and to my knowledge there has never been an "accident". The containments are secure and up-to-par. They don't have a problem with escapes, nor with neighbour complaints for any other reason. As far as the temperaments of the animals is concerned, most come from poor backgrounds and are not bulletproof "pets"...pet animals don't belong in sanctuary; sanctuaries take the "tough cases". If people who don't understand canine behaviour make mistakes, an undersocialised wolf-content animal is likely to respond with a fear nip or with obnoxious behaviour. This is WHY pens are so secure, and why there are signs posted on the animals with poor social skills. That said...there are very few animals there I would be afraid to go in with, even alone. The same goes for many of the volunteers, who know the drill and do pen chores, take dogs for walks, and give love and attention. (There are photos and videos all over the internet of people having positive interactions with the dogs at the Farm.)

The comment about diverting funds was especially amusing. Like most animal rescuers, Nancy supports the Farm by giving up most of her own small income to it! A rescue is not a money-making operation; almost all of us operate in the red. That's why donations are always so welcome; they can make the difference between the owner going broke or the dogs having regular new toys, treats, and such.
As to licensing, no license is required to help dogs in North Carolina. (Since puppymills ARE licensed under USDA and the misery they inflict is sanctioned by the government, that should give you an idea how useful the licensing would be, regardless...but that's another soap box.)

One last bit to ponder. Even if any of this had been accurate, if animals WERE removed from Full Moon Farm, they have nowhere else to go. Let me repeat that...almost all of the animals at FMF are there because *no one else would take them*. If dogs are taken from any sanctuary on the notion that things could be "more perfect" elsewhere (and of course they could--if you only have two or three dogs, each will always get more attention and resources than if you care for 30, or 80!), you need to HAVE that "more perfect" place to take them to available.

This whole complaint is pretty transparent, as an unfounded personal attack.
Anybody who actually does anything worthwhile with their life is going to have enemies, so I guess it's no surprise that Nancy's finally got a disgruntled ex-employee who will go out of his way to cause problems. It's really disappointing, though, how people who profess to "love" animals will take personal vendettas out in ways that cause animals harm. :( Even minutes wasted on replying to ridiculous stunts like this take time away from the animals...for Nancy, and for others who have been to her place and have to write in to set the record straight.

I encourage anyone who's concerned to take a tour of the Farm and see for themselves. While you're at it, offer a little help with the chores, give a social wolfdog some attention, maybe donate some new stuffed toys or a squeaky ball. The wolfdogs will love you for it, and it's much better karma than taking out your grievances on the animals.
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#110 UPDATE EX-employee responds

The Truth About Full Moon Farm

AUTHOR: James L. - (United States of America)

To Whom It May Concern,    

My name is James Landreth and due to recent events at FMF I felt the need to tell what I have witnessed at the Farm....First i would like to address the issue of medicine..Ms.Brown did and still does self medicate the animals at the Farm without first taking them to the vet or have a vet come out to examine them,most of the med's are out of date and are in unsealed containers or bottles. She has also tried to euthenize animals that were sick and dying with ketamine and other meds that she has gotten from friends as she does not have a license to purchase them herself, case in point..Chance was an older animal at the farm who was almost 17 years old and his health was really bad,Ms.Brown tried to help him pass with an overdose of ketamine but it did not work,I thought he was going to suffocate to death but he did not and I had to take him the next morning to the vet to have him euthenized..She also has a dart gun,darts and the meds for them that she uses on occasions to sedate animals at the Farm or friends animals,to my knowledge she does not have a license to purchase or the training to use the dart gun and medicine's...She wanted me to take a class and be certified to use the dart gun but she never followed through with it......Next the animals at the Farm...The animals at the Farm do not have a vet that see's them on a regular basis,the only time a vet is scheduled is to give rabies shots to all the animals..Unless there is an emergency that they have to go to the vet then Ms.Brown takes care of it herself even though she is not a vet and is not certified to do so...Many animals have hot spots and skin issues that goes unnoticed and the mats and fur issues never get resolved.If she does treat the skin issues it is usually with Ivomec and anti-biotics and a vet is never called to look at them..Tumors and growths are never addressed and are often dismissed and again a vet is never consulted about them..Heartworm tests and medicines to prevent heartworms are not a priority as they are 83 animals on the property and as Ms.Brown said "too expensive to deal with" ..end quote.!!  The high conternt enclosures are never cleaned or mowed due to the fact they cannot be handled and grass and weeds gets as high as 4 ft or more and stays that way till cold weather kills it and is trampled down by the animals. ......... My name is James Landreth and I was the caretaker for Full Moon Farm for almost a year before I left due to these issues and the constant verbal assault and mood swings by Ms.Brown.   In the end it is all about taking care and seeing that these animals are given the best life possible and in my opinion that is not the case as long as Ms.Brown is allowed to run and operate the Sanctuary....                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Sincerely,     

James D.Landreth Jr.
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#111 Author of original report

Statement from another person from Full Moon Farm

AUTHOR: AnimalKnight - (United States of America)

 To Whom It May Concern,     My name is James Landreth and due to recent events at FMF I felt the need to tell what I have witnessed at the Farm....First i would like to address the issue of medicine..Ms.Brown did and still does self medicate the animals at the Farm without first taking them to the vet or have a vet come out to examine them,most of the med's are out of date and are in unsealed containers or bottles. She has also tried to euthenize animals that were sick and dying with ketamine and other meds that she has gotten from friends as she does not have a license to purchase them herself, case in point..Chance was an older animal at the farm who was almost 17 years old and his health was really bad,Ms.Brown tried to help him pass with an overdose of ketamine but it did not work,I thought he was going to suffocate to death but he did not and I had to take him the next morning to the vet to have him euthenized..She also has a dart gun,darts and the meds for them that she uses on occasions to sedate animals at the Farm or friends animals,to my knowledge she does not have a license to purchase or the training to use the dart gun and medicine's...She wanted me to take a class and be certified to use the dart gun but she never followed through with it......Next the animals at the Farm...The animals at the Farm do not have a vet that see's them on a regular basis,the only time a vet is scheduled is to give rabies shots to all the animals..Unless there is an emergency that they have to go to the vet then Ms.Brown takes care of it herself even though she is not a vet and is not certified to do so...Many animals have hot spots and skin issues that goes unnoticed and the mats and fur issues never get resolved.If she does treat the skin issues it is usually with Ivomec and anti-biotics and a vet is never called to look at them..Tumors and growths are never addressed and are often dismissed and again a vet is never consulted about them..Heartworm tests and medicines to prevent heartworms are not a priority as they are 83 animals on the property and as Ms.Brown said "too expensive to deal with" ..end quote.!!  The high conternt enclosures are never cleaned or mowed due to the fact they cannot be handled and grass and weeds gets as high as 4 ft or more and stays that way till cold weather kills it and is trampled down by the animals. ......... My name is James Landreth and I was the caretaker for Full Moon Farm for almost a year before I left due to these issues and the constant verbal assault and mood swings by Ms.Brown.   In the end it is all about taking care and seeing that these animals are given the best life possible and in my opinion that is not the case as long as Ms.Brown is allowed to run and operate the Sanctuary....                                                                                                                                                                                                         Sincerely,     James D.Landreth Jr. 
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