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  • Submitted: Sat, August 27, 2011
  • Updated: Sun, January 13, 2013

  • Reported By: Cassandra — Orlando Florida United States of America
Glen Lyles
kissimmee, Florida United States of America

Glen Lyles Scammed me! Signed two contracts with me and got me to invest $5,000 and never came through! Scammed! kissimmee, Florida

*Consumer Comment: Glen Lyles was not guilty all along

*Consumer Comment: Manser is Curtis Brown

*Consumer Comment: Concerned Citizen II Looking Hard for the Smoking Gun

*Consumer Comment: Curtis Brown DBA: Curtis Brown USA LLC & Tycoon Group LLC - Seeking Information

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Curtis Brown appears as Curtis Brown and still lies

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Tycoon Group Responds

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group using an alias to lie again

*Consumer Comment: Robert Rowe Falls Hard

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group still lying using an alias

*Consumer Comment: Robert Rowe Answers the Big Question or Does He

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Curtis Brown using another alias Steve Peterson

*Consumer Comment: Robert Rowe in Big Trouble with Credit Card Company

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Exhibits D, F, G

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group alias Steve Peterson

*Consumer Comment: 4 Pinocchios for Robert Rowe

*Consumer Comment: Another Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group alias ?

*Consumer Comment: Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: I am Glen Lyles

*Author of original report: Update--Uninvolved Parties

*Author of original report: More people scammed by Glen Lyles The Craigslist Phishing Scam!

*Author of original report: Glen Lyles RE: For the Record

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Glen Lyles Has Never Ripped Anyone Off

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Back In February 2011 I signed two contracts with Glen Lyles, Jim Rhyne and Sopadilla Holdings (or so I thought).
Jim (who owns Sopadilla holdings) had no idea who I was, so how did he sign this contract?

He didn't. He also didn't know Glen Lyles very well at all, after Glen told me made up stories of how Jim would fly him around in his personal jet and that he had been there several times, that Jim was a "great guy" and a "friend". According to Jim Glen had contacted him outta nowhere and was going to get Jim ******* to do a total remodel of his resort Coconut Cay Resort and Marina in Marathon, Fl. Glen Lyles needed someone to put up $5,000 for a "document fee". That person was me and I was to get $15,000 back in 10 days, in addition to a route with LeVai Water. 

It's been one story after another and the longest waiting game for me and my family. Do not invest any money with this guy, he will not come through for you and I was an idiot to trust him to begin with. [continued below]....
..... I can only hope his next victim will do their homework before dealing with Glen Lyles.


Contract #1:


IRREVOCABLE FEE PAYMENT AGREEMENT 

1. We, Jim Rhyne principle of Sapodilla Holdings L.L.C. dba Coconut Cay Resort, with full corporate responsibility, so deem this is a binding Irrevocable Fee Protection Agreement for and on behalf of ENTER YOUR LEGAL NAME AND ADDRESS (beneficiary), will disburse the fee stated in clause 2 from the monies due as outlined in the agreement between Sapodilla Holdings and Glen Lyles, dated 1/25/2011 upon ******* from Tycoon Group, L.L.C.
2. Private Placement Document Fees: $15,000.00 
3. The fee shall be paid via direct wire transfer, to the beneficiary banking account, namely : 
Beneficiary : 
Bank Name : 
Bank Address : 
Account Name: 
Account No. : 
We, or our assigns, further irrevocably undertake to make the payment in full to the above stated sole Beneficiary from the proceeds due Glen Lyles as outlined in the agreement between Lyles & Sapodilla Holdings L.L.C.
This document embodies all the terms and condition agreed upon between the parties hereto and supersedes and cancels in all respects all previous representation warranties promises Agreements and undertakings (if any) between the parties hereto whether such be written or oral and no amendment or other variation of this document shall be binding unless the same is duly effected ** an instrument in writing signed ** both the parties hereto. 

Agreed and accepted, on 2/26/2011

** Jim Rhyne, Sapodilla Holdings:_____________________________ 
** Glen Lyles:____________________________________________ __ 
Agreed and accepted, on 
** beneficiary:________

I was also invited to a warehouse under the name of LeVai Water, which Glen Lyles also promised to me a route, signed a contract for that as well. 

Contract #2:


LeVai Water 
Independent Factory Route Sales Representative Agreement

THIS INDEPENDENT ROUTE SALES AGREEMENT (the "Agreement") made and entered into on 2/26/2011 ** and between (the "Independent Factory Route Sales Representative"), an individual & LeVai Water 

W I T N E S E T H: 
WHEREAS, the Employee is willing to enter into this Agreement As and Independent Route Sales Representative with the Company upon the conditions and terms herein set forth; 
NOW THEREFORE, for the valuable consideration set forth in this Agreement and intending to be legally bound, the Employee and the Company mutually promise and agree as follows: 
1. Position and Duties. 
During the time this Agreement is in effect, the Company will employ the Independent Factory Route Sales Representative and the Independent Factory Sales Representative. The Independent Factory Sales Representative will devote his/her time and attention to, and will use his best energies and abilities in the performance of, his duties and responsibilities in servicing and delivering company products to company accounts, engaging in promotions. This position entitles the Independent Route Sales Representative to the following exclusive territory:
Orange Ave North to I4 & South to Sand Lake Rd to Alafaya Trail East
John Young Pky North to Hwy 50 & South to Sand Lake Rd to Dr. Philips Blvd

2. Compensation and Incentives. 
Independent Route Sales Representative will offer suggested pricing as outlined in the pricing sheet and will keep the difference between the Factory Price and the Wholesale price provided to the Route Sales Wholesale Accounts;
Company will from time to time offer promotions to grow sales and the Route Sales Representative will use this special pricing for these purposes only
4. Non-Competition. Independent Factory Route Sales Representative shall not, directly or indirectly, acting alone or in conjunction with others: 
A. Request any customers of any business then being conducted ** the Company to curtail or cancel their business with the Company; 
B. Solicit, canvass or accept any business or transaction for any other person, firm or corporation or business similar to the business of the Company, from any past or existing customers of the Company; 


C. Induce, or attempt to influence, any employee of the Company to terminate employment with the Company or to enter into any employment or other business relationship with any other person (including the Independent Factory Sales Representative), firm or corporation; or 
D. Act or conduct themselves in any manner which is contrary to the best interests of the Company. 
The Independent Factory Route Sales Representative recognizes that this is his/her own business and agrees to act in the best interest of the company and his/her own business

5. Trade Secrets/Confidential Information. The Independent Factory Sales Representative agrees that he will not at any time or in any manner divulge, disclose or communicate to any person, firm or corporation any trade, technical or technological secrets; any details of the Company's organization or business affairs, its manner of operation, its plans, processes, and/or other data; any names of past or present customers of the Company; or any other information relating to the business of the Company, without regard to whether all of the foregoing matters will be deemed confidential, material, or important. With respect to the foregoing, the Independent Factory Route Sales Representative here** stipulates and agrees that the same are confidential, material, and important, and any breach of this Paragraph 5 will adversely affect the business of the Company, its effective and successful management, and its inherent good will. 
6. Assignment. The Independent Rout Sales Representative may sell or assign his or her route any time he wishes to do so either to the Company or to a qualified individual or corporation.
7. Entire Agreement, Amendment. This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement between the parties with respect to the contracted employment of the Independent Factory Route Sales Representative ** the Company and shall be deemed to supersede and cancel any other written agreements between the parties hereto relating to the transactions herein contemplated. No representation, inducement or condition set forth herein has been made or relied upon ** any party. This Agreement may be amended, modified or waived only ** an instrument in writing signed ** the Independent Factory Sales Representative and an authorized executive officer of the Company. 
8. General. The headings of the Articles and Paragraphs of this Agreement are for the convenience of reference and not to be used to interpret or construe any provisions of this Agreement. This Agreement shall be construed and enforced in accordance with and governed ** the laws of [Florida]. 

Additional Provisions:
20 Accounts will be provided along with initial inventory for each account. The Route Sales Representative will receive additional compensation as outlined in the Fee Agreement. Additional accounts will be provided for growth at no additional charge, however inventory will be paid for ** the Independent Route Sales Owner









IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties have executed this Agreement on the date first above written. 


NAME OF INDEPENDENT FACTORY Route SALES REPRESENTATIVE


NAME OF CONTRACTED EMPLOYER
Le Vai Water 

Independent Factory Sales Representative Signature: 

------------------------------------------------
Title: Independent Factory Route Sales Representative, United States

Le Vai Water 


*****slist complaint on Glen Lyles (before he marked it as spam and had it removed)

Date: 2011-06-24, 9:33PM
Glen Lyles is the name he goes ** but his real name is Anthony McGaddee 561-400-9956 he uses multiple other numbers as well. I paid him for a vending location, guess what you cant sell anything there. He will give you the run around and will not give your money back when he cannot find you a vendor location. BEWARE of this crook. Well he ripped me off of 400.00 that is grand theft so hopefully he gets what he deserves. I am pressing charges but I want people to know he is looking for victims on *****slist.
561-400-9956


I have reported him to the FBI internet crimes division and am in the process of filing a lawsuit/pressing charges. I advise you do the same if he takes your money too, or he will continue to offer a "Field Of Dreams" come true.

--Victim

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 08/27/2011 09:51 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Glen-Lyles/kissimmee-Florida-/Glen-Lyles-Scammed-me-Signed-two-contracts-with-me-and-got-me-to-invest-5000-and-never-770072. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Glen Lyles was not guilty all along

AUTHOR: Cassandra - ()

I am the original poster of this ripoff report and wish to set the record straight on Glen Lyles. Glen Lyles did not rip me off, we were both ripped off by a con man by the name of Curtis Brown aka Tycoon Group. Curtis Brown swindles people looking for funding, charging a $5,000 private placement memorandum fee. He has done this many times and will hopefully soon be in a court of law soon for his criminal actions. I never gave Glen Lyles money, I wired the $5,000 to Tycoon Group of LA California. Tycoon Group owes me money, not Glen Lyles. I smeared his reputation thinking Tycoon Group was imaginary or that they were innocent and had done their part. Truth is they are quite real...well not "they", as it consists of one little thief,Curtis Brown. Ripoff Report will not remove my incorrect report, so I am telling you myself that Glen Lyles is INNOCENT. If you would like proof, here is another victim who experienced the exact same con for $5,000.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/the-tycoon-group-l-l/consumer-services/beverly-hills-california-e81c3.htm

---Cassandra
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#2 Consumer Comment

Manser is Curtis Brown

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Hey Curtis Brown or Manser,

Correct, you aren't friends with Curtis Brown, you are Curtis Brown who is now out of business as The Tycoon Group because you were exposed as a fraud for swindling your clients out of their money.

The California Better Business Bureau now has an alert on Curtis Brown and his business.

The fact is Curtis Brown or whatever name you wish to use, the box you are in is getting smaller by the day. When federal and state authorities close in and file their charges against you it's over for Curtis Brown and his scamming.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Concerned Citizen II Looking Hard for the Smoking Gun

AUTHOR: Manser - (United States of America)

Hey Exposefraudonline,

I have re-read the threads completely today.  I'm thinking you're not going to get a straight simple answer form Chopper Guy regarding your very good questions.  I'm thinking at first Chopper Guy didn't get refunded, next authorities are verifying the checks so he must have gotten refunded, but then he had filed a dispute with his credit card company, which he hasn't withdrawn.  It is confusing at first.  Then Chopper Guy pretends he has great care and concern for this Cassandra
O'Donnell.  I would like to see where and how Curtis Brown asks Cassandra O'Donnell for money if reportedly she wasn't a client .  Where's that engagement contract?  Next, it should only take a few days for those checks to have cleared.  If those checks had bounced I'm sure we would have herd about it.  I'm also curious and have a lot of questions too.  Probably other people reading this also, feel things don't add up.  And, why did Curtis Brown aka Tycoon Group move?  Did he
really get run out of town, or was it a year end planned moved, like the lease expired?  Does anyone know?

Usually, Chopper Guy is very quick to respond, whenever anyone posts anything here.  Maybe Exposefraudonline, he thinks you're Curtis Brown aka Tycoon Group aka Curtis Brown USA?  I noticed he doesn't call anyone an alias when he thinks they're on his side.  Watch, he'll call me Curtis Brown.

Well Exposefraudonline, I'm just going to assume you're not an alias.  One thing I have read and seen, and that is FNRA/SEC are EXTREMELY quick to shut someone down for doing half the stuff reported on this thread.  I checked and so far today that hasn't happened.  The FEDs shut down first, then investigate - ask questions later, no matter if someone
changes their name, address, etc... their still going to have the same CRD number.

I have questions of Curtis Brown, but I know he won't respond here.  I just have a feeling we're not getting the full story from Chopper Guy.  One thing is very clear and obvious.  Chopper Guy was, or still is desperate to prove to someone that he was ripped off.  So I'm willing to bet he "pre-spent", or gave an I.O.U. to someone regarding the funds he thought was coming to him before he actually got it and thus got his %$#@! in a jam.   Someone had to take the fall, and it was all too very
easy and convenient to make Curtis Brown that target. 

I'd like to see a contract with this Cassandra O'Donnell and the full contract with Chopper Guy.  I personally think he's somewhat playing all of us.  He shows you only what he wants you to see.  I'm reading that the deal was that Chopper Guy would get funded, or he would get refunded for whatever he paid for his private placement.  Doesn't anyone reading
doubt that Chopper Guy got refund?  I've come to the conclusion this Chopper Guy has played us, so that he could look good before somebody.  I'm thinking Curtis Brown was the necessary sacrificial lamb to catch the ax to cover your behind.  It explains why you had to move so fast to do all you did.

 Exposefraudonline, Mary Daniels, Toshi Anzai, Steve Peterson, Iamh1 and myself see right through Chopper Guy.  Because.  Where's the written or sign commitments?  Obviously Curtis Brown is licensed and as it shows right on the FNRA/SEC web site, what was that lie you put out about?  Obviously, you got refunded, so now you are committing fraud against
your own credit card company?  My my my....  I not saying I believe Curtis Brown - mainly because he hasn't said much, but I for sure ain't believing anything Chopper Guy is saying without proof.  At least without any real proof.   An office with no lights on and no people, versus a virtual office.   Look I checked the website, and it does appear Barristers shares office space on the 6th Floor with other people. So???  I see no crime with sharing an entire office floor.  If Curtis Brown is really no good, we'd all really like to know and see real proof now.  If Curtis Brown is no good I'm the first that would want him to meet and greet Bubba.

To Chopper Guy if you did all this just to look good because you gave out I.O.U.s when you shouldn't have.  And, that's what I precisely suspect this is ALL about, then I gotta believe Curtis Brown hasn't been sitting on his hands.  Or, he's truly afraid of you and hiding.  Which, let me think about that one.  The fact that he's been very quite does bother me though.  Nevertheless, I am somewhat familiar about these types of private fund raises and there's never any guarantees until
funding has funded.  There are usually conditional pledges before signed commitments.

So, Exposefraudonline, I'll check back in a few days and see if you have gotten any further with answers, such as a YES or NO from Chopper Guy.  One more thing.  Everyone knows the FEDs don't take holiday breaks to investigate crimes such as these purported, especially the FBI and SEC.  So, over a month now I'm not seeing nor hearing about any arrest, no
license suspension, no actions taken, no nothing from an official.  Just an awful lot of talk on this site from mainly one loud mouth dude who pulled an OJ Simpson move to steal back his own property, got popped for it and released.  Justice just ain't that slow for this kind of stuff that Chopper Guy is claiming Exposfraudonline.  At some point Chopper Guy will just have to admit he spent money he shouldn't have and that Curtis Brown had to be the fall guy.  And do Chopper Guy should pay back
all that money he owes people.  Because that's what ALL this is about.  And, Curtis' silence didn't help which in fairness evokes that question to be answered. 

Good luck Exposefraudonline.  I am not a friend of Curtis Brown, but let's say I do have an interest to know if he's wearing the white hat or black hat.  If he's wearing the black one, I'm taking him out myself.  But, I think you'll get just more hot air, smoke and mirrors from Chopper.  I checked and hardly anyone else on Rippoff goes on and on like this dude...  for a man that is.  Maybe he thinks if he has the last word everyone will start to believe him.  But, the opposite has been happening, because the more he talks the less I believe him.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Curtis Brown DBA: Curtis Brown USA LLC & Tycoon Group LLC - Seeking Information

AUTHOR: Exposeonlinefraud - (USA)

I would be interested in hearing more information on Curtis Brown, have you had dealings with him?  Did he discuss you selling securities in your company?  Did he approach you from an online ad seeking funding for a business venture?  Did you send him money?  Did he come through with funding?  If he didn't, did he refund your money to you?



Please don't be shy or worries about anything, please share with me if you had dealings with Curtis Brown?



Does anyone know why he took his website down?



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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Curtis Brown appears as Curtis Brown and still lies

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Curtis Brown, the con man,

Oh, this is really funny. Curtis Brown wants to thank himself and his aliases for supporting Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group ?

You Curtis Brown havent posted on this forum until now ? Really, Sybil ? So you are saying it was one of your multiple personalities that posted all the lies ? Right ?

No, calling you a scam artist isnt false, despicable, or malicious. Its just simply true.

Curtis Brown, you are about as smart as a box of rocks. You obviously have a reading comprehension problem. I stated in an earlier post here you sent a check for less than the $5,000.00 which was supposed to be refunded immediately on my demand. I sent you an email which I posted on this forum that stated your check was not acceptable and that I want my $5,000.00 refunded in full with no deductions.

POST THE CANCELLED CHECK ON THIS FORUM WITH MY ENDORSEMENT CURTIS BROWN OF THE TYCOON GROUP. POST IT !!!!!! QUIT RUNNING YOUR MOUTH WITH YOUR CONCOCTED EXCUSES AND POST THE CHECK.

You have Krav Maga ? Geez, that sounds like some sort of veneral desease. Are you trying to claim you are some sort of martial arts expert here are you Curtis Brown ? LOL, LOL, LOL. Curtis Brown youre killing me. I would put that statement of Krav Maga in the same class as your alleged private investigator, and Road Runner legal team. They dont exist, just like your mirage investors. Now that they have legalized pot in California, have you been loading up on the weed ? Because that has to be the only explanation for your bizaar statements quite frankly.

Yes, you do lie Curtis Brown. You lie quite a bit. As far as calling you names ? I think stating you are a slimeball con man is an accurate and true statement.

You wont slander me ? Youre a liar. You already have with your lies regarding me being a criminal and serving jail time when you knew that was totally false.

You wont be posting any evidence because you dont have any. You cant even post a cancelled check.

You wont threaten me ? You claim youre a martial arts expert, have a private investigator, and a legal team, that is somehow going to file suit against me according to you. HOT AIR CURTIS BROWN, HOT AIR. Curtis Brown you have been threatening me ever since I exposed you for the fraud you are. You even in writing threatend me with the IRS as a Whistle Blower which was really stupid as that is a felony and you check that out with your Road Runner legal team.

Now, why didnt you mention Cassandra ODonnell in your post whose money you conned from her by committing fraud. It is a violation of federal and state law to require money up front in order to obtain a loan which is what you did with me, Cassandra ODonnell, and others. To top it off, you took her money and gave her nothing in return. Thats called fraud Curtis Brown and you committed it.

Lets not leave out the Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group misrepresentation that you are registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Call the SEC Curtis Brown. I did, and they told me you are not registered with the SEC.

Finally (for now), Curtis Brown is not being truthful again. It is not thats it and all you will say here. You will post under another alias.

I want to know what you know ? Curtis Brown, if I only knew what you know I would be classified as stupid.

The reason you keep posting is Ive been kicking your butt all over this forum with facts supported by documents that expose Curtis Brown as a fraud and liar.

You will keep posting here Curtis Brown trying to con your way out the facts that stack up against Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group. Then again, why wouldnt you post here. Im sure you now have a lot of time on your hands since no one will have anything to do with Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group as their devious behavior is now plastered all over the internet.

As far as your false claim of people supporting Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group. You might want to look at the bottom of the page in the Yes/No area. Right now Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group is getting their butts kicked 40 to 1. I know the 1 vote in your favor was put there by Curtis Brown.
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#6 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Tycoon Group Responds

AUTHOR: Tycoon Group LLC - (United States of America)

First, I want to thank all those who are supporting our firm, who called to find out, review and view the facts for themselves.  I want to especially thank Toshi Anzai and Steve Peterson.  I am truly very grateful for your continued trust in me, to our friendships and the professional relationship we have.

Hello Bob.  I actually haven't been doing any talking in this forum, at least until this point.  I know you are trying your very best to call me out.  This will be one and only response to you on this post.  So, let's be clear, to the matter that you are accusing me to be a Scam Artist - Frankly, it is false, despicable and malicious. 

1) Per my attorney and private investigator, we have overwhelming evidence you were refunded fully and very timely.   You said it yourself, above on the #10 Update By Author.  You said in paragraph four, "As a matter of fact, authorities are confirming the funds on the checks you wrote".  You said that Bob, but WAIT why would anyone confirm funds on a check I wrote, if they hadn't gotten anything?

2) Next, Bob you deposited the checks, but purposely without your signature on it, so you could claim on this website you never signed or endorsed them.  The fact is, lots of people deposit checks into an ATM and accidentally forget to sign/endorse the back of the check and they still get cashed.  In your case, one would reasonably determine, that you did not forget, as you said yourself, above on the #12 Update by Author.  You said in paragraph four, "A signature endorsement is required by any party cashing or depositing a check which everyone knows."  So, you knew the right thing to do, but failed to.  This is why talking too much is not a good thing.

3) And, having those cancelled checks now in our possession further allowed us to examine the computer generated numbers on the back of those checks to determine, when and where those checks were deposited.  This along with the FedEx shipment receipt confirmation you signed for
receiving them and your email acknowledging the receipt of one of the check are just more facts. 

4) I am sorry you think I wouldn't pursue this.  I am sorry you thought I didn't have the financial resources, didn't have a office, or that I was somehow afraid of you.  Where in this world you EVER got ANY those ideas and others, I'll perhaps never know.  What I do know is, even though I've been practicing Krav Maga for a very long time - I'm not going around looking for fights.

5) No, no, no, I don't lie, I won't call you names, I won't slander you, as you have done over and over with me - I'm just watching you - like my attorney advises until the investigator completes his work.  I know you want to suck me into a verbal confrontation here, but no thanks.  I'll just calmly and plainly say, that you are going to court for Defamation, as you were never ripped off.  That's just a fact, no drama, no empty promises, no threats there.  Just a fact.

6) No, we won't be posting our evidence, or answering any of your questions here.  You simply want to know all of what we know at this point.  We are not going to oblige.  I am not doing anything to jeopardize our successful outcome in court.  So, that's it.  That's all I will say to you here.  Tycoon Group, LLC - Curtis Brown
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#7 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group using an alias to lie again

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Hey Curtis,

I see you cant provide a cancelled check with my endorsement on the back can you ? No surprise there. You dont have the courage to post on here as Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group so you post lying accusations using an alias like Steve Peterson.

Youre nothing but hot air and have not posted one document to back up your lies. Ive posted plenty of documents that have exposed every one of your lies.

You still wont talk about Cassandra ODonnells $4,500.00 Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group cheated her out of. You cant defend it can you.

The Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) is investigating Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group. The Better Business Bureau (BBB) is investigating the complaint I filed and is waiting for you response which everyone who has read your bogus posts knows will be a lie. The BBB is also getting a complaint from Cassandra ODonnell about how you cheated her out of $4,500.00 and committed fraud.

Last but not least, I am waiting for an arrest warrant to be issued for Curtis Brown which when I get a filed copy I will post here on The Rip Off Report. Then it will be interesting to see if you still want to run your mouth. You should have given Cassandra ODonnell her money back that Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group cheated her out of.

As for your hot air talk regarding your Road Runner legal team ? LOL,  I laugh every time I hear your threat of lawyers. I dont believe Curtis Brown could even afford to retain a lawyer. Its been my experience that most scammers and frauds like Curtis Brown and his Tycoon Group couldnt rub two wooden nickels together. LOL

Another reason Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group wont be able to afford an attorney is because no one will do any business with Curtis Brown and his Tycoon Group after they read all these complaints about how Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group lied and cheated them.
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Robert Rowe Falls Hard

AUTHOR: Truth Maker - (United States of America)

Robert Rowe, you out did yourself.  Thank you for providing me, Tycoon Group, their attorneys and the world your discovery, with THAT answer.  I am happy to say, you are the biggest con man.  But, don't take my word.  The BBB, Paypal, your credit card company and SEC have all sided against you also.  And, that's just the ones I know about.  And, I knew you wouldn't call me, or email me personally.  They said your type couldn't stop puffing yourself up.  I didn't believe them.  I do now, so of course you won't retract anything.  Curtis never committed fraud and
you know it.  My job was to let you talk and talk (not to trap you) and you have cornered yourself.  Now, go back review what you've posted, you even contradicted yourself on a key issue. 

Well, I thank for answering my question.  You have cooperated with exacting precision to my surprise.  My job is done and they won't let me write you anymore.  You get to see Curtis' discovery in court, as apparently you
have some assets.  See ya.   Steve
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#9 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group still lying using an alias

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Hey Curtis Brown, Wile E. Coyote here.

Yeah, Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group it is you again using an alias. You can use whatever name you want, but it still boils down to you cheating and lying to people. Your posts here on The Rip Off Report are a classic example.

I have provided written documentation that every false accusation you have made is nothing more than a lie, lie, and more lies. You don't post any documents to support your lies because you can't.

You keep dodging this question which is ; When are you going to return the $4,500.00 you scammed Cassandra O'Donnell out of. You have cheated here. It is a violation of federal and state statutes to demand or accept money first in order to loan someone money. Cassandra O'Donnell received nothing from Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group which she was promised and Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group just stole her money. Curtis Brown lied to Cassandra O'Donnell, Curtis Brown threatened Cassandra O'Donnell with extortion to force her to write a letter that Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group knew was false. Basically Curtis Brown, you and your business The Tycoon Group have lied and committed fraud. Cassandra sent me the documents and emails with Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group which should result in Curtis Brown being indicted and charged with federal and state crimes.

Now as far as the checks you reference and claimed are cashed. There is a simple way to prove I cashed them. POST THE BACK OF THE CANCELLED CHECK ON THIS FORUM "The Rip-Off Report". If I cased them my endorsement signature MUST APPEAR on the checks you reference. A signature endorsement is required by any party cashing or depositing a check which everyone knows. I HAVE NEVER ENDORSED ANY CHECK WITH YOUR NAME OR BUSINESS NAME ON IT.

Now, don't try and post some fake photo of one of your cancelled checks made out to someone else. THE NUMBERS ON THE FRONT OF THE CHECK HAVE TO MATCH THE NUMBERS ON THE BACK OF THE CANCELLED CHECK AND MY SIGNATURE MUST BE ON THE CHECK AS AN ENDORSEMENT. RUBBER STAMPS DON'T CUT IT.

So there is your challenge Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group. No more hot air lies. Provide document proof of your lying accusations. I've provided plenty of written proof here on "The Rip Off Report" that exposes you as the liar and scammer you are.

Oh, and what about your lying claim being registered with the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC). You haven't even attempted to defend that false claim here on this forum. As I stated in a previous post here, I called the SEC and they told me they have no The Tycoon Group or Curtis Brown registered with the SEC. I called the SEC twice to confirm and they told me the same thing.

It;s the 14th Curtis Brown/The Tycoon Group and if you've noticed I haven't retracted one thing I have posted here which your deadline ultimatum letter demanded. So bring on this lawsuit by your "Road Runner" "legal team" (what a joke) you keep threatening me with. The fact is you are to stupid to realize what is coming at you. I'm not going to quit coming at you until authorities see fit to charge you with crimes, revoke any license you have, and basically prevent Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group from hurting, lying, and cheating anyone else.
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#10 Consumer Comment

Robert Rowe Answers the Big Question or Does He

AUTHOR: Truth Maker - (United States of America)

Robert Rowe, so you think my friend Curtis Brown is me still.  
 
Hmmm..... Oh well, wrong again.  I'm involved because what you did was so very wrong.

Quick question for you.   Did you, or did you not receive the $5k refund from Tycoon Group nearly two weeks ago according
the Fed/Ex envelope shipments we all saw nearly two weeks ago?  I just want to satisfy my own curiosity.  If you don't want to say here, you can call or email, as you have my contact.  Steve
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#11 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Curtis Brown using another alias Steve Peterson

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Hey Curtis, Wile E. Coyote here. Curtis.. I think you're going to have to back off the cartoons this weekend as it's really starting to cloud your mental thought process, or should I say lack of. I know people from California are...... shall we say...different, but Wile E. Coyote and the "Roadrunner" ? Curtis Brown, it sounds to me like you don't have all your oars in the water quite frankly.

I posted this on the other Rip-Off Report thread regarding the scamming and lying of Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group. For the record, I filed a credit card dispute on November 29, 2012 with my bank. NOT PayPal. At that time you refused and were stalling refunding my $5,000.00.

As I stated on the other forum thread. All you do is make bogus accusations with talk and no documentation to back up your lies. I on the other hand have provided written legal documents that clearly show Curtis Brown, The Tycoon Group, and all his aliases, have lied in each and every post they have made here on The Rip Off Report.

Curtis Brown's legal team ? That is funny. That must be the "Road Runner". So Curtis... PayPal is demanding you cough up $5,000.00 because you now have a negative balance in your PayPal account ? Gee... that's to bad. What's the matter Curtis. I bet you don't have the $5,000.00 to balance your PayPal account do you ? Yeah, you're a real high roller.

For the record, I have not endorsed any check of yours as of this date 12/12/12. Like I said on the other thread, I'm not in trouble for anything. However, that is not the case with Curtis Brown and his The Tycoon Group.

When are you going to return the $4,500.00 you scammed out of Cassandra O'Donnell who has filed a complaint on "The Rip Off Report."

This forum "The Rip Off Report" is great. Lots of people read it when they check out a business such as yours for scams. There are at least three people on The Rip Off Report accusing Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group of stealing money from them. That's not good Curtis Brown. I don't think many people will want to do business with Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group after reading the complaints posted here.

All anyone has to do to check out Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group is Google "The Tycoon Group" or "Curtis Brown" and up pops The Rip Off Report at the top of the list, showing all these complaints against Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group for being ripped off. Curtis Brown.. I don't think that's going to help your business in the PR department.
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#12 Consumer Comment

Robert Rowe in Big Trouble with Credit Card Company

AUTHOR: Truth Maker - (United States of America)

Robert Rowe I just couldn't help my self.  When Curtis told me about the email he got from Paypal today, I just couldn't believe it.  Curtis had to waste time proving you actually filed a false complaint.  What, you didn't think he had the cancelled checks?  You really thought you could get away with getting paid twice?  Wow, you are a genius.  Oh well, they'll add that to your list of transgressions.  Hey, keep bringing them and keep talking.  Afterall, apparently, you think Curtis is just hot air and won't do anything about defamation.

Curtis said someone on his legal team even said today, "you are the gift that keeps ON giving."  Personally, I say you are better than "Wil E. Coyote", because you constantly try to trap, trick, divert attention, run a muck, hustle, scam and destroy someone, while killing yourself in the process.  At least Wil E. Coyote took commercial breaks.  Robert Rowe I saw the pdf of the cancelled checks of Tycoon Group you cashed and now just yesterday you tried to file a claim through Paypal and your credit card company to get another $5K.  Did I give you that idea?  By now you got the email that the bogus claim was cancelled.  Yes, you are a super genius.  You try to hurt my friend.  We know something else is coming from you, because you just don't know when to quit, and neither did Wil E Coyote?   I saw your police photo and you look the type.   Everything is a joke, slick or easy to you.  Well, I can't wait to see your sign, "Oops!"  You have no idea how bad I want to tell you what's coming, but I can't.

Oh, you want to wish I was Curtis don't you?  I don't know who you are trying to impress, but your too slick to know you got a problem.   Please continue with your ACME tricks, and while my friend Curtis/Tycoon Group won't speak to you outside a courtroom, I personally love what you are doing, because you continue to destroy your credibility (not that you apparently had any) and yourself.  It's entertaining.  To give you some prospective, you are like al-Qaida declaring Jihad on the U.S. 
Are YOU serious....  You are just wasting people's time, but please don't take my word for it.  Go on, you're on a roll.

The only thing Curtis did wrong was choose you for a client.  I admit he needs to be a lot more careful who he tries to help.  But, I do admire Curtis for staying calm and cool during your smear campaign.   We would all love for you to stop all this nonsense, but that's just too easy for you.  it's just not good business.  You are a bad man for claiming fraud against my friend and you take great pains to continue to do so.  You need an attorney just to protect you from yourself.  Yes, but of course, you can have the last word again.  I insist because you are a super geninus, Wil E Coyote and it would be difficult to exercise your right to remain silent. 

Steve Peterson
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#13 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Exhibits D, F, G

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Here are the exhibits again. They didn't seem to expand.
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#14 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Curtis Brown/ The Tycoon Group alias Steve Peterson

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Slow day at the office Curtis ? 4 Pinocchios ? Username of Truth maker ? Come on Curtis, you must have the IQ of a grape if you think people reading these rebuttals you post think its anyone but you Curtis.

First, it was some investor named Anzai or something like that, posting rebuttals here on The Rip-Off Report, now its an alleged investor calling himself Steve Peterson who just happens to have emails, contract agreements, federal express tracking numbers, checks sent, dates and times, etc. between Curtis Brown/ TTG and my business only Curtis Brown would know. In addition, this alleged investor Steve Peterson has an email I sent Curtis Brown/The Tycoon Group (TTG) stating Curtis Brown/TTG committed fraud. Yes, I did send that email Curtis Brown alias Steve Peterson, as you well know. The real funny part is this Steve Peterson states at the bottom of his post that he is 100% with TTG. I think that was a typo and he meant to say Im 100% TTG.

Curtis Brown wont post on The Rip Off Report ? No, hell just use an alias.

Curtis alias Steve Peterson, you posted on here that Ive served time in jail, have numerous arrests, and been charged with several crimes. As you know Curtis none of that is true. As a matter of fact Ive attached Exhibit F from the Confidential Private Placement Memorandum TTG authored to go along with the legal documents already posted. It states on page 29 and I quote The officer (thats me) has NEVER been convicted of a felony or misdemeanor. Ive highlighted it on Exhibit F. Those were your words Curtis on a document created by Curtis Brown /The Tycoon Group. So you knew when you posted all those lies about me being a criminal that what you were posting were flat out lies. So you want to talk about defamation and slander Curtis ?

The bottom line is this :

The Watermark as you call it was always $200,000. See attached Exhibit D which is an email I sent Curtis Brown/TTG before I sent the $5,000.00 refundable deposit. You can see that I state my understanding of the deal was that at least $200,000.00 (not $250,000.00) would be funded to my business. At the bottom of that email you see where Curtis Brown responded and stated Your understanding is 100% correct.
   
Curtis Brown alias Steve Peterson, you claim TTG had $200,000.00 in place to  disburse to my business, Exhibit D clearly shows the watermark as you call it was $200,000.00, so why didnt TTG fund my business ? There is only one answer..... there were no investors and no $200,000.00 in place as Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group represented. You lied Curtis alias Steve Peterson, its that simple.

2.    When I confronted Curtis Brown and the Tycoon Group regarding where the $200,000.00 of money Curtis Brown claimed he had lined up before I sent the $5,000.00 which he claimed would be funded within 10 days, I receive this goofy email Exhibit G from The Tycoon Group stating they had no investors. I also receive a phone call from Curtis Brown stating he had no investors because of the election and he was closing his doors. The multiple excuses from Curtis Brown are unbelievable. The fact is there never were any investors and the $200,000.00 Curtis Brown claimed his firm had never existed either.

3. As for all this garbage Curtis Brown and aliases claim regarding refunding  my $5,000.00 ? I had to Confront Curtis Brown with interstate bank fraud prosecution. Curtis Brown didnt volunteer to refund anything. He attempted his stalling tactics which I didnt fall for.

If you notice, Curtis Brown and all his aliases dont address what I posted about the  Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) regarding The Tycoon Group. Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group claim they are registered with the SEC. Go ahead and call them (800) 732-0330. The SEC told me last Monday they never heard of The Tycoon Group or Curtis Brown and have no one under those names registered with the SEC.

It should be entertaining watching Curtis Brown use another alias to respond to this post. This is nothing but a smokescreen by Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group to draw attention away from their unethical, dishonest, conduct.

I would also like to commend this forum for consumers. The Rip-Off Report is an excellent forum to expose criminal, unethical, and dishonest conduct committed against consumers. Keep up the good work.
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#15 Consumer Comment

4 Pinocchios for Robert Rowe

AUTHOR: Truth Maker - (United States of America)

Mr. Rowe, this is Steve Peterson.  Remember me?  I'm one of the four investors who gave a $50,000 conditional pledge to TG, on behalf of Custom Chopperwerks. 

In case you forgot, please check your email around 10/24/12, apparently you should have my direct contact, via Malou. 

But, I must tell you Mr. Rowe, that when Curtis indicated that the watermark had not been reached and wanted to know if I would still release early on 11/29/12, based upon the $200,000 level, without reaching that watermark of $250,000, I did declined.  I formally never committed to you.  Nor did I ever transfer my funds to TG to give to you.  I never signed your
Subscription Agreement.  So, you certainly can not say, I was committed to you.  I can't speak for the others, but you did NOT get a formal commitment from me.  From what I hear, not even from TG either.

Pledges and commitments are two different things.  With pledges in the financial world, there is, or are conditions attached to the promise that must be met.  The one major one in this case was, subject to the investor himself - yours truly.  So, in this case, investors' final approval and signature were required.  Did you have that Mr. Rowe?  Did any investor sign the documents necessary?  Curtis says he also never told you that you had commitments only pledges.  Please use a financial dictionary and look up the words pledge vs. commitment, for that important distinction you accidentally or willingly overlooked.   Then, look at your email very carefully.  I read it.  Does the subject line read "Commitment" or "New Pledge"? Apparently, what you have are exchange statements that if you didnt get at least $200,000, youd get refunded within 90 Days.  By all counts, you did not get funded, and so you even got your refund within 2 business days.  That really should have been the end of it.  But, what you have purposely plastered all over the internet about TG, is in fact a lie Sir, but then you know that.

Furthermore, Curtis has no authority to force me to invest in something I dont want to.  he is not a Broker/Dealer and does not have a discretionary account on me.  Yes, I was interested and yes I was going to.  But, when I heard there werent sufficient investors to get to the watermark to make me feel comfortable, I elected to pass.  That was my prerogative.

When I heard about the financial funny business later, Im glad I made that decision. 

Id have to say, you did an excellent job of trashing Curtis excellent reputation.  Bravo.  Its just too bad, everything youve said though is totally misleading, wrong and outright fraudulent itself.  Not a trace of truth to it.

Well, Im writing here because, Curtis called me yesterday afternoon and explained whats happening and that he may need my help.  He sent me some of your emails.  I reread the Private Placement Memorandum, and it clearly states 11/30/12 was the time to reach the watermark.  And so, on 11/30/12, Curtis was to either get you funded with enough private investors like myself, or return you back your money.  Actually, I think thats a very fair deal.  And, you were fully aware of that, werent you?

Like Toshi Anzai suggested, (whom Ive never met) I did check those Fed/Ex tracking numbers mentioned and it is consistent with what Curtis told me.  Guess thats why you cant respond to Toshi Anzai.  Curtis told me, he sent you the first FedEx envelope with a check for $4,854.70.  And, I believe that is a fact because, Curtis sent me your email dated 12/01/12, that reads as follows, which made me speechless.   Heres what you said:

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Curtiss,

I just received your FedX letter. You sent only $4,854.70 of my $5,000.00 refund. This is not a full refund and NOT ACCEPTABLE and I will not cash or accept this. I am not going to play this game. You, and your firm committed fraud. I meet with the federal prosecutor Tuesday.

Sincerely,

Robert Rowe

*********************************************************

Do you deny you wrote the above?  Now, on the very next business day, 12/3/12, Curtis sends you another check for
$145.30, which according to Curtis was the Paypal fee you incurred by sending money to him through that service.  Which you wanted to use and he got that fee waived for you.

And, he explains he did not refund you through Paypal because he wanted to avoid another Paypal processing fee, but more importantly upon the advice of his attorney, checks were needed, and they were issued for a total and complete refund of
$5,000.00.     


Just as an observer, if your claims were for real, shouldnt you be the one initiating the law suit, not Curtis?  Curtis tells me hes getting the BBB now to investigate your bogus claim for removal, as they are sending over a copy of your entire file.  Shouldnt you have called Paypal first before Curtis reported the incident?  Couldnt you have gone to small claims
court, arbitration, mediation per the agreement I saw that has your signature?

Maybe you cant do those things now, because youve started this trajectory.  You would rather start out with multiple and the most heinous lies and you continue.  You are something.

The thing I dont get is, youve been holding one check in your hands for days and the other is in FedExs possession, waiting for you to pick up, after 2 attempts to deliver to your condo.  All this so you can claim you were ripped off.  Wow, thats high stakes poker you are playing and the people that count reviewing the matter see your entire hand.  If this wasnt serious, it would just be hilarious.  But, dont let me stop you, Im only making an observation.  Claiming you were ripped off when you had 97% of your money in your hands in less than 24 hours, the other 3% the next business well before the deadline you set on 12/4/2012.  That dog wont hunt! 

Now that I informed to what happened, the fact is you were fully given your refund by the 12/04/12.  Not only do you have real culpable ignorance in your intent and actions, when all this gets sorted out and you better believe it will, you will have lost time and a lot more than the original $5,000 you started out with and Curtis will have been vindicated.  You are just brazen. 

One more thing, Curtis will not respond in this forum and he mentioned something about Lexis Nexis (I dont know what that is, maybe you do) but they are just now finding out more about you, which speaks to the heart your credibility.  You have ZERO credibility.  With your existing legal troubles, bonding, more arrests, probation, your failed business relationships perhaps you should stop and really look at what you do.  Good Lord, when will you learn?  You ARE just a brawler, arent you?  Ok, I too am not going go tit for tat with you either on this website.  Not necessary.  I just wanted you to know, Im 100% with TG.  And, I told Curtis I would write, because he and his law firm wont be responding here.  I wanted to just let you know Mr. Rowe, (as you apparently forgot about me), Curtis has some good friends and we will back him.  You simply dont have the truth on your side.  You are just doing what youre doing because you can.

Well, at least for now.  Oh well, I saw your comment, dont worry they are bringing it. 
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#16 Consumer Comment

Another Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group alias ?

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Hoodwinked Edwards ? So Curtis Brown you post on here using another alias ? Curtis, do you ever run out of alias names to use ?

The Tycoon Group had nothing to do with scamming Cassandra ? Didn't Cassandra send you by bank wire $5,000.00 which you refused to refund and didn't provide any service as you promised her ?

If that is the case The Tycoon Group had everything to do with Cassandra losing her $5,000.00 she bank wired you (Curtis Brown) and The Tycoon Group.

By the way Curtis. You claim to be a registered financial adviser with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). For the record, I called them (800-732-0330) and the SEC said they have no record of a Curtis Brown or The Tycoon Group being a registered anything. Can you explain that Curtis Brown ? Did you lie about being registered with the SEC Curtis ?

Please explain Curtis Brown or use one of your aliases like Hoodwinked Edward or that Akai investor guy to enlighten us.
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Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group

AUTHOR: chopperwerks - (United States of America)

Not so fast. Forget the BBB report of Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group. I'm having to meet with federal and state prosecutors to pursue criminal charges for interstate bank fraud against Curtis Brown and his Tycoon Group for failing to return a $5,000.00 refundable deposit. Curtis Brown and The Tycoon Group never performed on our contract and falsely misrepresented everything that was promised.
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#18 REBUTTAL Individual responds

I am Glen Lyles

AUTHOR: Glen Lyles - (United States of America)

This matter refers to Curtis Brown of the typhoon group who resided in a virtual office in Beverly Hills CA., drives a $60,000.00 BMW, wears a $35,000.00 Rolex,.

Nice job, Curtis, now pay that Cassandra and her family their money. I am sending her all the documents so she can post this for you.
 
I have some help on the way Mr. Brown!!
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Update--Uninvolved Parties

AUTHOR: HoodwinkedEdwards - (United States of America)

This update is to inform any readers of this report that the Tycoon Group LLC. and any of it's employees and/or partners were not in any way involved or party to this report.

Their name is only on this report, because Glen Lyles created a contract using this company's good name and credibility without the authorization of Tycoon Group LLC to sway myself into an investment. I have no contract nor ill will with Tycoon Group LLC. and have no negative complaints, issues, contracts or reports concerning Tycoon Group.

To be perfectly clear, Tycoon Group is in no way connected to this report other than a reference on a contract, not created or signed by them. Feel free to read their BBB report to find an A rating, as it is a reputable company that I am not affiliated with. I posted a contract written and executed by Glen Lyles, who is not connected with Tycoon Group llc. in any way shape or form. This complaint is against Glen Lyles, a person, not a company and certainly not Tycoon Group LLC.
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More people scammed by Glen Lyles The Craigslist Phishing Scam!

AUTHOR: HoodwinkedEdwards - (United States of America)

5Scammed by Glen LylesHello everyone,

I just wanted to report somewhere that I was scammed by Glen Lyles last December. He hired a team to work commission only for 1commercial.com gathering real estate leads. I put in my time and effort generating leads for him and even involved my friend. HOWEVER, we were never paid, neither were other people on the team. He made it seem like he wasn't paid by 1commercial.com as well but that was in fact not true, 1commercial paid him, he just never paid his team who put their time and effort working for an honest days pay with rent and bills on the line, only to end up with NOTHING. 
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=810298057 

PLEASE DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS MAN. 

On Dec 21, 2010 7:04 PM, "xxxxxxxxxxn" wrote:

Well Glen I guess this proves I'm a liar just like said.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brian A
Date: Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: 1commercial.com
To: xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx 


xxxxxx:

Yes, we have paid Mr. Lyles in full - more than he was entitled to actually. He is no longer associated with us, and it has come to my attention that he has spoken lies about us. He was paid by check, so it's easy to verify. As you may already know, I have communicated recently with Benita regarding this. Feel free to inform any other people Mr. Lyles hired that he has been paid.

I'm sorry for the circumstances you're in, but it's between you and Mr. Lyles since we have already paid him. As I mentioned to Benita, you could try small claims court, but if he has already spent the money, it may be difficult to receive payment.

Brian

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Brian A
http://MLSClassified.com


On Dec 21, 2010, at 6:11 PM, xxxxxxxx wrote:

Dear Mr. A am trying to find out if indeed you did pay Mr.Lyles. Myself and many others did not get paid for all the hours spent on the phone. We were told by Mr.Lyles that you and your dad never paid him. We just want clarity on this matter.


Warmest Regards

xxxxx xxxx 
  #2   02-02-2011, 05:23 AMLucas M Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011Posts: 1Re: Scammed by Glen LylesI happen to know that the person who signed warmest regrads, Henry Colon. He was the person who was in charge of this business. Glen Lyles, helped Mr. Colon get into a business since he was homeless on the streets at the time, fresh out of jail (he is a covicted felon for embezzlement, go figure), no bank account or id apparently. He was asked to leave the home we was living in which by the way belonged to Mr. Lyles thus the issues not including any monies Henry Colon may owe to others.

I also know from the background check that one Henry Colon, had a drug problem most likely created this problem to take the heat off of his self.

I have worked with Mr. Lyles in the past for many years and I am a private investigator who also knows the parties who claim they paid Mr. Lyles were not who they represented themselves as. I have checked out the background of all the so called "players".

The so called "Dr" is a vet and has tried and failed at many differnt ventures, hope this helps.  #3   04-16-2011, 12:19 PMshanee387 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011Posts: 5Re: Scammed by Glen LylesThe sad thing is that the previous poster, whomever they may be, could not say that Glen Lyles paid me or the other telemarketers. They instead tried to deflect by discrediting one of the other telemarketers that clearly was not paid. That is the lack of integrity displayed. The fact still remains, that to date, Glen Lyles scammed me by not paying me for my work. Period.  #4   05-04-2011, 11:27 AMHenry Colon Junior Member Join Date: May 2011Posts: 1Re: Scammed by Glen LylesLet me get the record straight, I worked with you, and I will reveal your name and email address to the public if you continue to publish something that is not true.

I got paid each and every time, and yes I was upset at my wifes cousin, but he did not have anything to do with you not getting paid. Truth of the matter he gave me a place to live and I had to move.

You took what I said and turned it around.

I suggest you stop defamimg others before I personally take action against you. I never gave you permission to use my name of any communications from me to twist into a lie for your personal gain. 

Enjoy your day!

Henry  #5   05-04-2011, 05:39 PMshanee387 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011Posts: 5Re: Scammed by Glen LylesI find it HARD to believe that the same person making those accusations in the email is the person "replying" to the tread as it was that as person who started the parade of emails back and forth to Mr. Lyles and the rest of the team. I chose this one because it was the calmest of them all. So if you are telling me, the originator of this thread that I am using your name illegally, guess what? I NEVER USED YOUR NAME. I made an email sent to me PUBLIC and I can do that if I want.  #6   06-25-2011, 07:22 PMGlen Lyles Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011Posts: 3Re: Scammed by Glen Lyles? NOT!!Well, I do appreciate the imput by all here. If anyone has anything to say to say to me personally then by all means say it!!

I have nothing to hide, it appears my good friend Lucas has set the record straight and Mr. Colon who I also see attempted to add his 2 cents. 

I was not aware of any issues with anyone and yes it is true, I set my ex-wifes cousin up in an effort to help him to become self-sufficent and he used the opportunity possibly in a less than responsible manner.

For the record, I have NEVER taken money from ANYONE, period. And if the person who is complaining has a problem by all means here is my email address glenlyles@gmail.com. 

I don't have a clue what this is about, or if I am the one being talked about, but just in case I had to protect my name from those who may be thought a fool and have now opened their mouths and have removed all doubt!

I will be happy to help in any way if I can. Cheers  #7   07-20-2011, 05:53 PMroperliz Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011Posts: 1Re: Scammed ** Glen LylesGlen Lyles told me for 400.00 he would find me a location to sell ice cream from, he tried to have me sell at a church where it is illegal to sell due to Kissimmee does not allow it , then refused to pay me my 400.00 back after he could not get me a location, need proof email me. I have 40 emails of him telling us he will email us tomorrow about a location. Do not pay him any money he is a THEIF. He said his job is a consultant to set up vendors with locatiosn to sell from, new scam. He said he got a guy a location to sell food at the courthouse. Watch out he found my ad on Orlando *****s list, so beware he is trolling for people to steal from. It is a cyber crime since he contacted me through emails so if he contacts you I will show you how to file against him if he scams you.Last edited by roperliz : 07-20-2011 at 05:58 PM.  #8   07-25-2011, 02:18 PMGlen Lyles Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011Posts: 3Re: Scammed ** Glen LylesHey Roper Bimbo Babe!! Show the world your ass, God knows even those with poor vision can see it now!! Let's see these emails you have!!

I really don't like confrontation, but as Popeye say's "I have all I can stands and I can stands no more"!

When you get your head out of your ass, and read the emails you will see you stoled your boy friends identity (that came from him not me) and you are lying.

Anyone who reads this is certainly entitled to know the truth so let's see the emails and let's talk about the money you allegedly paid me for something I did not provide.

I have all the emails to, and a documented conversation from your boyfriend that will reveal something very different.

Here are some emails;Follow up on securing a location for you as agreed 
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ice cream
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from Glen Lyles glenlyles@gmail.com
to Roperbingobabe@aol.com
cc Williamgh
gettheq@gmail.com
date Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:36 PM
subject Follow up on securing a location for you as agreed
mailed-** gmail.com
hide details Jun 28
Mr. & Ms. H,

As you both know, more assuredly with you Mr. Herndon, we spoke on Thursday the 23rd of June around noon. I informed you, Mr. Herndon that I had no answer on securing a location from the decision maker of any location near the wet n wild area which we both agreed would be great. At your request Mr. Herndon request he aske me to wait a bit more, not knowing how long that is I contacted Mr. Herndon ** email the weekend of the 24 of May and informed him I had no news. Not to also mention, I shared with you Mr. Herndon, the feeling I had with your wife, Ms. Herndon was she wanted one now and I suggested we do that and you said she did not have the long term vision etc.

For the record, I was then accused of things that are not only untrue but not accurately presented as it seemed top be the case with the reference in this email regarding the 23nd of June. So much to the point that in the email I received from Mr. Herndon Sunday 25th of June, and was unable to read it til late Sunday night it seemed ** the words in that email and the text messages I received yesterday from Ms. Herndon that no regard ** Mr. Herndon to advise of such request, to hold off, presumably for at least 1 business day. I could have easily secured an account ** now for you as agreed, but you did not want be to pursue the plan to secure ethe location in Kissimmee although you assumed that location would not be approved for permits etc etc.

Quite frankly, what I performed and showed you are some out of the box approaches to get business from a different aspect than your current business model. I believ you feel you could do the same thing yourself and you really could and you are trying to find away to turn this around and look like a victim of sorts, I hope I am wrong for if i was one to "con" I would have been long gone. I have been in this town for 12 years and I am a professional, I am business increas their bottom line and that is what my goal was for you two, if you think I am full of it, my last client here in Tampa, I added over $100,000.00 in the last 5 months in sales, I have there name and number?

Guys, your thought process will always keep you where you are. I have not and will never try to beat you or anyone out of anything!!!

Mr. & Ms. Herndon (sory I forgot your not married), when you are ready for me to secure a location comparable to the one I was supposed to secure on your behalf that week with the church please let me know.

I stand ready to honor my agreement just let me know when.

Sincerely,

-- 
Glen Lyles
561-400-9956 

Glen Lyles glenlyles@gmail.com
to roperbingobabe@aol.com
cc fraudhelp@sao9.org
date Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:47 AM
subject Re: Any Idea
mailed-** gmail.com
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Dear Liz,

i spoke with Bill your husband, and he informs me that you have been in his email account, you were sending emails out posing as him, and that i am to deal with him directly.

You could have had your location long ago except you seem to know more than others do and have successfully caused this problem and you have no one to blame but yourself.

Had I been allowed to fulfill my obligation to you as originally proposed we would not be emailing each other now.

Instead of allowing me to follow through with the agreement we had on the day of our meeting, you decide to plow ahead with your own plans, and then accuse me of fraud? You could have at least let me finish my job then decide. BTW, had you been patient just until I finished my job you would have been in a location.

The bottom line is this, I tried to accommodate you but unfortunately you have decided to blame, accuse, and find fault and most of all TWIST the truth to appear like a victim?

I spoke with your husband and it seems he shares the same issues with you as I do. I sent him a text a couple weeks ago if you want to know what it says please speak with him and have him please create a new confidential email and ask him to please reply to the text in the email for I can't read texts on my phone.

I have lost more time and money trying to satisfy the insatiable, please ask Bill to reply to the text in the email as requested. Bill is a nice man and I believe you are good in heart but seriously I believe you must be dealing with some personal issues that your pastor or a professional could help. I say this sincerely for my wife acted similarly after the birth of our ba** and we found counseling to help us both and strengthened our marriage as well".

Stop twisting the truth, you know the truth and if you want your location please have your boyfriend reply to my requests. He is the person I am dealing with NOT you!! I have done ALL I will do to help you especially after you slander and threaten me and my name.

Thanks  #9   08-27-2011, 07:23 PMCassandra Ol Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011Posts: 1Re: Scammed ** Glen LylesScammed ** Glen Lyles Too!

Back In February 2011 I signed two contracts with Glen Lyles, Jim Rhyne and Sopadilla Holdings (or so I thought).
Jim (who owns Sopadilla holdings) had no idea who I was, so how did he sign this contract?

He didn't. He also didn't know Glen Lyles very well at all, after Glen told me made up stories of how Jim would fly him around in his personal jet and that he had been there several times, that Jim was a "great guy" and a "friend". According to Jim Glen had contacted him outta nowhere and was going to get Jim ******* to do a total remodel of his resort Coconut Cay Resort and Marina in Marathon, Fl. Glen Lyles needed someone to put up $5,000 for a "document fee". That person was me and I was to get $15,000 back in 10 days, in addition to a route with LeVai Water. 

It's been one story after another and the longest waiting game for me and my family. Do not invest any money with this guy, he will not come through for you and I was an idiot to trust him to begin with. I can only hope his next victim will do their homework before dealing with Glen Lyles.


Contract #1:

IRREVOCABLE FEE PAYMENT AGREEMENT 

1. We, Jim Rhyne principle of Sapodilla Holdings L.L.C. dba Coconut Cay Resort, with full corporate responsibility, so deem this is a binding Irrevocable Fee Protection Agreement for and on behalf of ENTER YOUR LEGAL NAME AND ADDRESS (beneficiary), will disburse the fee stated in clause 2 from the monies due as outlined in the agreement between Sapodilla Holdings and Glen Lyles, dated 1/25/2011 upon ******* from Tycoon Group, L.L.C.
2. Private Placement Document Fees: $15,000.00 
3. The fee shall be paid via direct wire transfer, to the beneficiary banking account, namely : 
Beneficiary : 
Bank Name : 
Bank Address : 
Account Name: 
Account No. : 
We, or our assigns, further irrevocably undertake to make the payment in full to the above stated sole Beneficiary from the proceeds due Glen Lyles as outlined in the agreement between Lyles & Sapodilla Holdings L.L.C.
This document embodies all the terms and condition agreed upon between the parties hereto and supersedes and cancels in all respects all previous representation warranties promises Agreements and undertakings (if any) between the parties hereto whether such be written or oral and no amendment or other variation of this document shall be binding unless the same is duly effected ** an instrument in writing signed ** both the parties hereto. 

Agreed and accepted, on 2/26/2011

** Jim Rhyne, Sapodilla Holdings:_____________________________ 
** Glen Lyles:____________________________________________ __ 
Agreed and accepted, on 
** beneficiary:________

I was also invited to a warehouse under the name of LeVai Water, which Glen Lyles also promised to me a route, signed a contract for that as well. 

Contract #2:

LeVai Water 
Independent Factory Route Sales Representative Agreement

THIS INDEPENDENT ROUTE SALES AGREEMENT (the "Agreement") made and entered into on 2/26/2011 ** and between (the "Independent Factory Route Sales Representative"), an individual & LeVai Water 

W I T N E S E T H: 
WHEREAS, the Employee is willing to enter into this Agreement As and Independent Route Sales Representative with the Company upon the conditions and terms herein set forth; 
NOW THEREFORE, for the valuable consideration set forth in this Agreement and intending to be legally bound, the Employee and the Company mutually promise and agree as follows: 
1. Position and Duties. 
During the time this Agreement is in effect, the Company will employ the Independent Factory Route Sales Representative and the Independent Factory Sales Representative. The Independent Factory Sales Representative will devote his/her time and attention to, and will use his best energies and abilities in the performance of, his duties and responsibilities in servicing and delivering company products to company accounts, engaging in promotions. This position entitles the Independent Route Sales Representative to the following exclusive territory:
Orange Ave North to I4 & South to Sand Lake Rd to Alafaya Trail East
John Young Pky North to Hwy 50 & South to Sand Lake Rd to Dr. Philips Blvd

2. Compensation and Incentives. 
Independent Route Sales Representative will offer suggested pricing as outlined in the pricing sheet and will keep the difference between the Factory Price and the Wholesale price provided to the Route Sales Wholesale Accounts;
Company will from time to time offer promotions to grow sales and the Route Sales Representative will use this special pricing for these purposes only
4. Non-Competition. Independent Factory Route Sales Representative shall not, directly or indirectly, acting alone or in conjunction with others: 
A. Request any customers of any business then being conducted ** the Company to curtail or cancel their business with the Company; 
B. Solicit, canvass or accept any business or transaction for any other person, firm or corporation or business similar to the business of the Company, from any past or existing customers of the Company; 


C. Induce, or attempt to influence, any employee of the Company to terminate employment with the Company or to enter into any employment or other business relationship with any other person (including the Independent Factory Sales Representative), firm or corporation; or 
D. Act or conduct themselves in any manner which is contrary to the best interests of the Company. 
The Independent Factory Route Sales Representative recognizes that this is his/her own business and agrees to act in the best interest of the company and his/her own business

5. Trade Secrets/Confidential Information. The Independent Factory Sales Representative agrees that he will not at any time or in any manner divulge, disclose or communicate to any person, firm or corporation any trade, technical or technological secrets; any details of the Company's organization or business affairs, its manner of operation, its plans, processes, and/or other data; any names of past or present customers of the Company; or any other information relating to the business of the Company, without regard to whether all of the foregoing matters will be deemed confidential, material, or important. With respect to the foregoing, the Independent Factory Route Sales Representative here** stipulates and agrees that the same are confidential, material, and important, and any breach of this Paragraph 5 will adversely affect the business of the Company, its effective and successful management, and its inherent good will. 
6. Assignment. The Independent Rout Sales Representative may sell or assign his or her route any time he wishes to do so either to the Company or to a qualified individual or corporation.
7. Entire Agreement, Amendment. This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement between the parties with respect to the contracted employment of the Independent Factory Route Sales Representative ** the Company and shall be deemed to supersede and cancel any other written agreements between the parties hereto relating to the transactions herein contemplated. No representation, inducement or condition set forth herein has been made or relied upon ** any party. This Agreement may be amended, modified or waived only ** an instrument in writing signed ** the Independent Factory Sales Representative and an authorized executive officer of the Company. 
8. General. The headings of the Articles and Paragraphs of this Agreement are for the convenience of reference and not to be used to interpret or construe any provisions of this Agreement. This Agreement shall be construed and enforced in accordance with and governed ** the laws of [Florida]. 

Additional Provisions:
20 Accounts will be provided along with initial inventory for each account. The Route Sales Representative will receive additional compensation as outlined in the Fee Agreement. Additional accounts will be provided for growth at no additional charge, however inventory will be paid for ** the Independent Route Sales Owner

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties have executed this Agreement on the date first above written. 

NAME OF INDEPENDENT FACTORY Route SALES REPRESENTATIVE

NAME OF CONTRACTED EMPLOYER
Le Vai Water 

Independent Factory Sales Representative Signature: 

------------------------------------------------
Title: Independent Factory Route Sales Representative, United States

Le Vai Water 


*****slist complaint on Glen Lyles (before he marked it as spam and had it removed)

Date: 2011-06-24, 9:33PM
Glen Lyles is the name he goes ** but his real name is Anthony McGaddee 561-400-9956 he uses multiple other numbers as well. I paid him for a vending location, guess what you cant sell anything there. He will give you the run around and will not give your money back when he cannot find you a vendor location. BEWARE of this crook. Well he ripped me off of 400.00 that is grand theft so hopefully he gets what he deserves. I am pressing charges but I want people to know he is looking for victims on *****slist.
561-400-9956


I have reported him to the FBI internet crimes division and am in the process of filing a lawsuit/pressing charges. I advise you do the same if he takes your money too, or he will continue to offer a "Field Of Dreams" come true.

--Victim  #10   08-31-2011, 06:51 PMshanee387 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011Posts: 5Re: Scammed ** Glen LylesOh what tangled webs we weave. 

I'm really sorry you got scammed. $5,000 is a lot of money. 

Are you sure about the Anthony McGaddee thing? According to online posts I've seen, his daughters last name is also Lyles, as well as his sisters and other family members.

Someone get this mans fingerprints.... LOL.  #11   09-05-2011, 04:12 AMGlen Lyles Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011Posts: 3Re:NOT Scammed ** Glen LylesHello,

We we have Ms Shanee who worked for my ex wifes cousin, that story is above who used my name, ** the way you can fined the person who screwed you here (so please move on, get a life, I was a victim of Identity Theft)

http://apps.ocfl.net/bailbond/defaul...=5745763760828

Next we have the the house wife who decided to steal $5000 from her boy friend's account to get in on a good deal had the person she sent the money to fulfilled their agreement, WHICH IS NOT GLEN LYLES BUT CURTIS BROWN of Beverly Hills CA.

I too was scamed ** this person but I am not spending my time blaming others and making immature posts. I will get my money, but for Casey O' she can get it herself!
I did not take 1 RED CENT!

WE BOTH WERE SCAMED! I had hoped we could work together to recover the funds, but not now for sure!!

I guess when things don't go right, instead of making it work you, especially after you steal someone's money, it is easier to blame. I guess if I had told you that Curtis was going to send you your $5,000 back that you, don't want it?

I will advise the parties not to pursue Curtis for the money and let them know, it had only taken me 4 months to get it back to you, but publicly I say it is your problem, I am done! Slandering my name with LIES is a scam. YOU Know the TRUTH! 

There is only one party I owe is the person who wanted a location to sell their Ice cream from. And when they decide to accept the ones offered I will secure it for them. 

I think it is sad that people would resort to this, but I AM GOING NO WHERE!! I have tried to help those who have suffered in any way, my fault or not. 

And to the lady who Henry Colon said it was me a Ms Shanee, you can find what your looking for at the link in this post.

Thankfully, I have thousands of friends and business associates who know my true character.

Have a wonderful life & Peace.

Yours Truly,

Glen Lyles 


Look At Glen's Newest Phishing Scam on Craigslist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://orlando.craigslist.org/fns/2708705144.html


It Never ends!

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Glen Lyles RE: For the Record

AUTHOR: HoodwinkedEdwards - (United States of America)

Speaking of records....Glen Lyles record shows assault on a police officer and resisting arrest. Glen Lyles posts a couple sentences trying to make himself look like a victim.

I AM THE VICTIM!

Guess what? No one will listen to the trash that comes from your mouth any longer...In the future any educated person will Google Glen's name before doing any business with him and these reports will be on the internet FOREVER!

Why? Because unlike Glen Lyles, I have a paper trail from calls to contracts and emails to prove he made a deal and didn't keep it. I was never told that I MIGHT get my money back, I was told I would have an Irrevocable Pay Order "Guaranteed" to get my $5,000 investment, plus a $10,000 commission and a water route just to sweeten the deal.

High Risk=High Payout.

Unfortunately Glen could not be honest about what the money was truly for...a Private Placement Memorandum....an application fee for the big boys. It's as simple as this....I invested $5,000, because Glen Lyles signed a contract binding him legally to our agreement. He was praying on an ignorant girl with inadequate experience in business.

He put an ad on Craigslist, advertising a route for sale to create a phishing scam , because he didn't have the $5,000 application fee to remodel an old resort. The property didn't appraise and the deal fell through. All I wanted was to start a small vending route and to work hard for my money. Hey Glen, quit trying to use other people's money for your field of dreams B.S and go get a job like all the other hardworking Americans!

Where is your real proof of your innocence? If you are innocent, then prove it with paper, as your words are monopoly money and considered worthless.

Watch out Glen FBI might be watching you right now....

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Glen Lyles Has Never Ripped Anyone Off

AUTHOR: Glen Lyles - (United States of America)

 For The Record:
I first want to say that is a shame that such gossip and defaming can occur in the name of "Free Speech"! When I'm done here I have to go back to the home page of Rip off Report to sign up for the "remove your name" course, it's 50% off if I sign up today!

For all that said, Ms. Cassandra O'Donnell, et'al.
 I believe some of your complaint is correct, just can't remember what, for this whole story is not true. You NEVER gave me one penny! Any further questions comments or concerns but please don't hesitate to call me. Peace
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