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Complaint Review: Global Abundance Program, GAP, Leonard Grant, Michael Churchill

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  • Submitted: Thu, August 16, 2007
  • Updated: Mon, November 21, 2011

  • Reported By:Brunswick Georgia
Global Abundance Program, GAP, Leonard Grant, Michael Churchill
2700 Braselton Hwy. Ste. 10-382 Dacula, Georgia U.S.A.

Global Abundance Program, GAP, Leonard Grant, Michael Churchill Lies and Deception, Bate and Switch, Go to any extent to deceive or to run a scam game Dacula Georgia

*General Comment: Not recommended...just sayin...

*Consumer Comment: People blaming their failures on others!

*Consumer Comment: Good News Update To the "Be Wary Of Leonard Grant" Post!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: This Is NOT The Place For Get Rich Quick Lazies

*Consumer Comment: Be Wary Of Leonard Grant

*Consumer Comment: Who is ripping who off?

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I got involved with Leonard Grant in December of 2006, and he seemed to be a very intellegent respectable person, however after I got involved with him and the Global Abundance Program things started to turn bad, I sent him $3,965 on April 17,2007 via UPS and had to keep calling him to follow up and to get my web site info.

It was not until April 24, 2007 that I finally got in touch with him and he gave me false or misleading information concerning the site, and I could not log in to my site, so at that time I stated to him that I wanted a refund, however, he never stated that he would refund my money.

This went on back and forth for another few days at which time he got Michael Churchill, who is the co-owner of Global Abundance Program to agree with his lie that the reason that I was not getting the information was that my (ISP) internet service provider was less than competent, and was deleting my mail before I could get it, and I know that was a falsehood, because I have had this service for more that 10 years and receive e-mail from all over the world and never had anyone compain that they sent me mail that I didn't get.

I have never been able to get anything worth while from either one of these individuals as far as this company is concerned, I was promised that the system that was in place would do the prospecting and signing up of the people comming into the program, and that there was TV ads and other types of advertising being done on behalf of the people who pay the fee and join the company, which is all false and misleading, I have gotten none of the things that Leonard Grant sold me on when I joined this company.

Leonard Grant is nothing but a slick sly lieing scam artist that go on the internet and find these scam program and sell them as the best thing since sliced bread, however I will do anything that I have to in order to get my money back from him. Thank you kindly for your help.

Loyalty
Brunswick, Georgia
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 08/16/2007 09:29 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Global-Abundance-Program-GAP-Leonard-Grant-Michael-Churchill/Dacula-Georgia-30019/Global-Abundance-Program-GAP-Leonard-Grant-Michael-Churchill-Lies-and-Deception-Bate-a-267947. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 General Comment

Not recommended...just sayin...

AUTHOR: MIkeG - (United States of America)

I wish I could report favorably because I always found Leonard to be very personable.  He is quite knowledgeable and has remarkable copywriting skills and salesmanship. I have worked with Leonard in two different business opportunities since 2007.

Regretfully, I joined him with Global Abundance which fell flat on it face right after the the economy collapse.  The business sold a nice mortgage product. I bought the Titanium membership with a partner for $13K and we also paid him a substantial amount of money up front (more than $20K) for consulting services to help us build our business sales funnel initially. We mutually agreed he would help us get it going up to a point then transition us to running our GAP business within a set period of time.

Leonard had an inside track on this business opportunity.  I personally trusted him from previous business we had done together and enough to send him more money on a verbal agreement.  At the time, he was completing the sales funnel platform for the Global Abundance (GAP) program while working directly with Michael Churchill and Todd Bell. Perhaps timing played a pivitol role in our experience as I know Leonard also experienced a hard hit with this business too.  I don't fault him for that.  Churchill and Bell had a horrible launch execution and the collapse of the economy nailed the lid on the coffin for this company. They tried to come back one year later with no success.

Our money was lost.

It should be noted that Leonard spent our money (the consulting money) before any services were rendered and he NEVER made any effort to communicate and repay or return the money back to us. Over the next two years I tried in several ways to work out creative ways for Leonard to help me and my partner with no success. 

I had ideas but if Leonard were to respond to this, he would tell you that I could not clearly define my ideas to him.  That is true.  I do not deny it.  I didn't have another business to use him for.  I paid him to help us with a specific business.

The point is that Leonard took a significant amount of money from us and gave us nothing in return. He never made an effort (to me) to provide a product or services of fair value in return. Instead, what I got was a list of his personal turmoils and not a solution.

Do I beleive he stole this money?  No, not intentionally but I do believe he robbed Peter to pay Paul and then could not honor the commitment as he should have.  Even years later, there is still no effort and I would be surprised if he ever intends to make this right. It was his burden to bear.  It was our mistake in trusting him with our money and an even bigger mistake to execute a deal with him or anyone without a written agreement.

It was one very valuable business lesson learned.

If you are considering giving any money at all to Leonard, I cannot recommend him.  Don't do it.

Mike G.
Raleigh, NC

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#2 Consumer Comment

People blaming their failures on others!

AUTHOR: mcgrear - (United States of America)

Hello,

My name is Marshall and I am a new beginning business partner of Mr.Leonard Grant and Mr.Grant tries his best to look out for people and to teach them the ropes of the business so you can be just as or more successful than himself. He is a very good at what he does in his business and everything is legit! I mean what else can you expect from a stand up guy! leonard teaches and helps you get money very quickly and all you have to do is put yourself aside for one second and listen and things can get done! I mean it's a shame that people get on here and lie about other people to bring down there charcter because they didnt wanna listen to helpful information that could change there lives so now they sit back and think of evil ways to bring down the next man or woman! Well take this advice and run with it " It is better to learn how to fish than to be given the fish" If you are given the fish you can eat for that moment but if you learn how to fish you can eat for a life time! Well, I just want to say God Bless Leonard Grant and all his ventures and I hope I can be prosperous right along with him!

God Bless,

Marshall (The Next Millionaire)

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#3 Consumer Comment

Good News Update To the "Be Wary Of Leonard Grant" Post!

AUTHOR: Penny - (U.S.A.)

Shortly after I posted the comment above about my experience with Mr Grant, I finally received an email from him with a sincere apology and an explanation for his actions in not acknowledging the balance owed to me for my services or the many attempts to contact him about this matter.

I am pleased to report that Mr Grant has completely settled his debt with me plus added a little extra for my inconvenience. It takes a man with true integrity to admit he was wrong, then keep his word and make it right no matter how long it takes, and Mr Grant did just that, which is the kind of honesty you won't find too much of these days especially on the internet and I am deeply appreciative.
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#4 REBUTTAL Individual responds

This Is NOT The Place For Get Rich Quick Lazies

AUTHOR: Leonard - (U.S.A.)

As another member so aptly puts it, these sites and forum while could be a valuable source of information makes it too easy for people to easily make false and mis-leading information. Especially when the person filing these claims don't have the guts or courage to use their name.

I am a military man and only cowards hide behind aliases when accusing and making false statements of another.

If I was having problem with someone that I am doing business with it would not take
me almost 4 months go get in touch with them. And that statement made by Norman is totally inaccurate about not getting his e-mail from the company.

No where did Mr. F state that he didn't received the product which he paid for. We are all affiliate marketers. We market other companies products. That is what affiliate marketers do. Mr. F was given access to his products by G.A.P.

When I realized that he didn't received his e-mail (at least that is what he said) I immediately contacted G.A.P. and spoke to one it's co-founders which acknowledged that an e-mail was sent to Mr. F.

The e-mail was also sent several times after that. I suggested to Mr. F
that he may have an issue with his ISP. I know that I don't receive some of my e-mails for days. Furthermore, some of them have never entered my inbox. That's just the nature of the internet. It's not as perfect a medium as most people think.

But this is just another case of a man that bought a product, does nothing with it and decided to slander me and one of the owners of a very good company.

People like those shouldn't be in business at all.

Leonard Grant
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#5 Consumer Comment

Be Wary Of Leonard Grant

AUTHOR: Penny - (U.S.A.)

I run a copywriting and design business and earlier this year I was hired by Leonard Grant to create marketing systems and autoresponder letters for his Overnight Cash System and Best Traffic System. I quoted the jobs upfront and he agreed to the terms and my charges for all the work. I bent over backwards to meet his deadlines and believe me, it wasn't easy because he would constantly change his mind and I would have to make major changes over and over and then he would add a new job he wanted done and I would prepare a quote for that..and he would agree and I would do the work he asked for, which delayed me in completing other customers jobs I had waiting.

Per my terms I requested partial payment after the job was started and payment in full when it was completed and he agreed, but never met those terms as I asked. After a week or so after the jobs was completed I finally got paid for one quoted job and then I had to wait awhile longer and had to request payment for another job several times before I received payment. Then for the third job... he NEVER paid for at all. I have tried contacting him several times from May to August and he just ignores my emails. I gave up trying because it's obvious he has no intention of responding.

He was portrayed as an honest businessman who only promotes and gets involved with high dollar businesses and he was looking to outsource some of the work he needed done to save some money. Believe me, the work I did for him would have cost him thousands of dollars anywhere else and he saved a bundle choosing to work with me plus I even gave him a big discount on top of that and he claimed that he was really pleased with the work I did, but unfortunately I guess he feels he can take advantage of us small business owners and pay only what he wants to..not what he agrees to.

I've already written this off to experience and know I'll never get another dime from him, but I want to warn anyone who chooses to do business with this man to be cautious and get your money up front before you do any work for him.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Who is ripping who off?

AUTHOR: Shannon - (U.S.A.)

Seems to me, Where there is a Consumer there is a Complaint

I came across this article and thought Wow, I can't believe that a person is able to slander a company on this type of website without any real
evidence that any of this has taken place.

I find it hard to believe that one's good name can be thrown up on this easily.

How do we know this gentleman is telling the truth?
How do we know that he put his best foot forward to get the information he was requesting?
How do we know he was even running his business?

We don't!

I happen to know that if a long link is sent to me and my email Yahoo, I sometimes don't get them
How do you know you received all your emails? You don't, truth is that about 20% of emails never make it to the recipient.

Not sure about others but if I handed over money to anyone I didn't know it wouldn't take me 3-4 months to get results from my advisor in any company.
How come 3-4 months? That says so much right there

I have to say that I don't believe this man who won't even give his name on such a report.

See, I too am a member of G.A.P. They are a business full of integrity, loyalty and
offer so much training it's hard to fail. I work at my businesses and am adult enough to realize that this is my business and it's up to me to learn and grow. G.A.P is one of the few companies out there that has heart and sole and really cares for their members.

In the past 5 years I have busted my butt to make a great living online.
I seriously doubt this guy can say the same. This is just another case of the lazies.
One more person that has more excuses why he isn't successful. If he spent as much time learning and getting serious about having a successful business as he does bitching
he might be rolling in the money.

Truth is I feel sorry for people like this guy. He can't get out of the way of his own excuses to move forward in life.

So folks, do your homework for yourself, make your decisions based on being successful not listen to crap like this.

Best in success,
Shannon
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