Elizabeth Davis - gorgeouspoodles.com ripoff Dishonest toy poodle breeder Sells sick puppies Buyer beware over $300 in vet bills Bakersfield California

Twelve and a half years ago we flew from Chicago to LA to pick up our two puppy girls. Elizabeth was very detailed throughout the process from our First initiall call through the purchase and responded to any questions when called. Our girls are beautiful red heads. They are very healthy. Our friends, groomer and vet can hardly believe they will soon be thirteen. They are smart, playful and loving. 

Like i said before, i did not mean to slander or cause any personal harm with these postings. since i assume you are reading this,i tried to call and apologize personally but you took my call but did hear me out and i would like to take this opportunity to publicly apologize to you if i have caused you any hurt, that it was not my intentions and hope that you will accept this public apology.

sincerely,
Nicole O.

ok, so obveously there is some issue with me stating my personal opinions on the poodles and that may have been misunderstood by the breeder. since idont know how to take off the problem post, i guess i can only update at this moment. what i meant to say is that in no way shape or form do i distrust E davis, downgrade her breeding tecniques or have anything negative to say about her or the poodles that i own. i simply stumbled upon this posting and decided to blog about it. i did not mean to slander or demean her character in any way shape or form. i simply just meant to blog about my experience. my dogs are great poodles, i love them to death, in terms of being super top notch? im not sure anyones dogs can be. if anyone has a question then just repost, but gorgeous poodles is a reputable dog breeder, and my dogs have been healthy and have lived happily since birth and up to the present moment and hopefully for a very long time.

so like i stated before, sorry for the misunderstanding, and i meant no harm it in any way.

ok, so obveously there is some issue with me stating my personal opinions on the poodles and that may have been misunderstood by the breeder. since idont know how to take off the problem post, i guess i can only update at this moment. what i meant to say is that in no way shape or form do i distrust E davis, downgrade her breeding tecniques or have anything negative to say about her or the poodles that i own. i simply stumbled upon this posting and decided to blog about it. i did not mean to slander or demean her character in any way shape or form. i simply just meant to blog about my experience. my dogs are great poodles, i love them to death, in terms of being super top notch? im not sure anyones dogs can be. if anyone has a question then just repost, but gorgeous poodles is a reputable dog breeder, and my dogs have been healthy and have lived happily since birth and up to the present moment and hopefully for a very long time.

so like i stated before, sorry for the misunderstanding, and i meant no harm it in any way.

ok, so obveously there is some issue with me stating my personal opinions on the poodles and that may have been misunderstood by the breeder. since idont know how to take off the problem post, i guess i can only update at this moment. what i meant to say is that in no way shape or form do i distrust E davis, downgrade her breeding tecniques or have anything negative to say about her or the poodles that i own. i simply stumbled upon this posting and decided to blog about it. i did not mean to slander or demean her character in any way shape or form. i simply just meant to blog about my experience. my dogs are great poodles, i love them to death, in terms of being super top notch? im not sure anyones dogs can be. if anyone has a question then just repost, but gorgeous poodles is a reputable dog breeder, and my dogs have been healthy and have lived happily since birth and up to the present moment and hopefully for a very long time.

so like i stated before, sorry for the misunderstanding, and i meant no harm it in any way.

ok, so obveously there is some issue with me stating my personal opinions on the poodles and that may have been misunderstood by the breeder. since idont know how to take off the problem post, i guess i can only update at this moment. what i meant to say is that in no way shape or form do i distrust E davis, downgrade her breeding tecniques or have anything negative to say about her or the poodles that i own. i simply stumbled upon this posting and decided to blog about it. i did not mean to slander or demean her character in any way shape or form. i simply just meant to blog about my experience. my dogs are great poodles, i love them to death, in terms of being super top notch? im not sure anyones dogs can be. if anyone has a question then just repost, but gorgeous poodles is a reputable dog breeder, and my dogs have been healthy and have lived happily since birth and up to the present moment and hopefully for a very long time.

so like i stated before, sorry for the misunderstanding, and i meant no harm it in any way.

Okay, so most puppy lemon laws specifically exclude parasites, I believe, due to their nature. They are not generally considered life threatening (the common ones), unless left untreated, and let's not forget that the OP states they had the puppy for two months, and so there is not any reason to believe that the puppy was sold with it, and as stated above, does not need contact with another dog to infect (like a great deal of these parasites).Not to mention, I would laugh in any vets face whom attempted to charge me $300 for drontal or whatever they used. Even considering it should be done more than once. The other poster indicating a sick dog, gave no details, so whom is to know. It is reasonable to expect any breed with hair (non-shedding), to change color. It is reasonable for ANY breeder or seller to expect and require to be informed of any problems immediately (on a time limit). Lets also take into account that several breeds begin to 'blow their puppy coat' during this awkward time. Make sure you are happy with your contract when you sign it, it does not change later because now you think it should be different. Let's also take into account, that if there was not such a high incidence of unrealistic buyers, the contracts may not read the way they do. The breeder has to protect themselves as well, from those whom were not fully prepared for the responsibilities of having a pet. Ask questions, but always refer to the contract, not the word of the seller. That is what it will come down to if there is a problem, ask why a particular thing is worded that way, or why they require a specific thing, or why they beleive certain items are fair to both parties, BUT DO NOT SIGN IF YOU DO NOT SEE IT THEIR WAY. I did go to the site listed to see an example of the contract, and there is not one listed if I am at the right one. The fact that there are 'tiny's' and 'teacups' listed seperately with no explanations is always concerning to me though. However, they may prefer to discuss the details in person. *the devil's advocate's opinions*

I purchased my two female poodles from elizabeth davis in 2002. the puppies were born 12/01. i picked out the first born and the last born and both were very well groomed although they had a ridiculous hair-do, both were very sweet puppies and both were very cute. as they grew older their different personalities came out and both puppies are amazing. the runt of the litter is slightly "autistic" in the sense that she is very clingy to my mother and seems to understand english when you ask her where her mother is. she quivers in the corners and cries when my mother leaves. the first born puppy is very outgoing and very very smart she obeys commands and knows when you are speaking to her. both poodles are the red variety, and the smaller puppy Holly was a deep red color when we got her and the first born Roxy, was a lighter red tone. they just turned 7 and both dogs are starting to fade, but that is what happens with dogs just like humans. i could dye their fur, but whats the point in that?

i am fairly satisfied with my two little poodles, i love them both to pieces and would never think to trade them back or sell them. health wise both have been pretty healthy, except Roxy seems to get paw infections fairly often and has had pnemonia once.

i do not know if i would get another poodle from this breeder ,just because i will probably be looking for a big dog as my next member of the family, but i think as long as you go to the breeders house, spend time talking and exam the puppy yourself, you will be satisfied. teach yourself what a healthy puppy looks like , and what an unhealthy one looks like. i would hold off on the contract until you know if the puppy is healthy and will fit into your home.

au revoir

My poodle that I got from her was also sick. She denied it all and tried everything in the book to wash the whole situation away. Threats, denial, etc. I tried to get my money back or get the doctor bill money from her, but the breeder just denied it all. My vet had the proof.

Kept the poodle, whom we love, but would never recommend this breeder or buy from her again. If I someone asks me where I purchased the pup, I do let them know, but with caution and warning. I tell them up front they will have problems and it is up to them if they are willing to deal with it or not. I tell them, they may end up with the same problems I had, a sick pup and expect to have vet bills or look for another breeder. Not just the vet bill, but the headache of dealing with this breeder.

Buying from her was the worse experience I have ever had in dealing with a breeder. I have purchased from other breeders, not poodles, but another type of dog, years ago and it was a very pleasant and wonderful experience!!

I would agree with Roger in Calif, caution!

I was amazed to read the report from Roger regarding the puppy they received. After knowing Elizabeth and the care she provides everyone of her puppy babies, the Halas's story was so far from the truth. It made me realize that they really didn't want a poodle puppy. Elizabeth surrounds the puppies with love and constant attention and is more knowledgeable about poodles than anyone I have ever met. She would never allow any of her puppies to become sick because of her devotion to her babies. If you get to know her you are one lucky person - because she is caring, loyal, and most importantly concerned enough to make sure only the best and right things happen to the people around her and her puppies.

I saw that poor puppy after she brought it home to care for it. It made me sick to see how a human being could treat a little trusting puppy so bad that it made all her hair fall out. She is doing much better now, but I wonder what other defenseless creatures have fallen under Roger's grip.

I took the time to read and consider the author's post concerning the puppy purchased from Elizabeth Davis.

I'd like to take a moment to applaud those who came forward in support of Ms. Davis and providing documentation of the other side and what they experienced.

There are always two sides to any story. It's most certainly sad the author and the puppy did not make for a good fit. But there seems to be many other customers who are more than satisfied.

Ms. Davis, I'm sure it could go without saying, you will never make all of your customer's happy, but it appears you have many satisfied customer's. I could not be happier for you and those who are so pleased with the puppies you provide(d) them.

It's unfortunate you found yourself ridiculed here! But find comfort, your happy families cannot help but restore faith or satisfied concerns your future customer's who may stumble upon the entry here, may have. Best of luck to you all!

An individual having no personal interest or experience with Ms. Davis, but a strong supporter of her position and response.

Kendel

I took the time to read and consider the author's post concerning the puppy purchased from Elizabeth Davis.

I'd like to take a moment to applaud those who came forward in support of Ms. Davis and providing documentation of the other side and what they experienced.

There are always two sides to any story. It's most certainly sad the author and the puppy did not make for a good fit. But there seems to be many other customers who are more than satisfied.

Ms. Davis, I'm sure it could go without saying, you will never make all of your customer's happy, but it appears you have many satisfied customer's. I could not be happier for you and those who are so pleased with the puppies you provide(d) them.

It's unfortunate you found yourself ridiculed here! But find comfort, your happy families cannot help but restore faith or satisfied concerns your future customer's who may stumble upon the entry here, may have. Best of luck to you all!

An individual having no personal interest or experience with Ms. Davis, but a strong supporter of her position and response.

Kendel

I took the time to read and consider the author's post concerning the puppy purchased from Elizabeth Davis.

I'd like to take a moment to applaud those who came forward in support of Ms. Davis and providing documentation of the other side and what they experienced.

There are always two sides to any story. It's most certainly sad the author and the puppy did not make for a good fit. But there seems to be many other customers who are more than satisfied.

Ms. Davis, I'm sure it could go without saying, you will never make all of your customer's happy, but it appears you have many satisfied customer's. I could not be happier for you and those who are so pleased with the puppies you provide(d) them.

It's unfortunate you found yourself ridiculed here! But find comfort, your happy families cannot help but restore faith or satisfied concerns your future customer's who may stumble upon the entry here, may have. Best of luck to you all!

An individual having no personal interest or experience with Ms. Davis, but a strong supporter of her position and response.

Kendel

I purchased a red tiny toy poodle from Elizabeth Davis nine months ago. I would recommend Gorgeous Poodles to anyone and have done just that when people comment on how beautiful my little one is, which is everytime I'm out with her. She is very well socialized, has a rich red non-faded coat, bright eyes, is fun, playful, cuddly, not hyper, doesn't bark except in warning or play, loves people of all ages, and is truly the best, healthiest and easiest to train poodle I have ever had.

I've owned toy poodles thoughout my adult life. This is my eigth and she is my favorite. I was heartbroken over losing my last one and Elizabeth came to my rescue with the most wonderful pet I have ever owned. My vet thought she was one of the cutest he'd seen and mentioned immediately how healthy and smart she was, with personality plus. My husband, adult kids and grandkids fell in love with her instantly and she, them.

If anyone wants a responsible breeder who takes pride and care in doing no inbreeding and makes certain her puppies are healthy and well socialized, please contact Elizabeth Davis at Gorgeous Poodles. My experience, and that of everyone I talked to, has brought much joy in the form of a small bundle of warmth and delight who is sleeping on my lap as I type this.

To Whom It May Concern: March 10, 2007

I have known Elizabeth Davis both on a personal and professional level for three years. During that time, I have had the opportunity to visit her home, see the personal care she gives each of her animals. She is a caring provider who provides one of the cleanest, healthiest home for her poodles that I have ever encountered. She has the highest standards regarding the health and welfare of her pets.

I first met Elizabeth when I applied for one of her poodles. Applied is a good word as she is very particular as to where her precious poodles go. Only when she is satisfied that they will receive the best of care and love, will she consider placing a dog in a home. She has a reputation for the health and quality of her poodles. She tests all of her adult poodles, feeds them the best food and supplements, keeps them current on all vaccinations. I have since purchased over three of her gorgeous poodles, have never had a health issue, and receive many complements as to their coats, conformation, and overall temperament.

Elizabeth has been available for consultation, advice, and hints as to the best care and treatment of my own poodles. She is always available to offer assistance and prayer. When you receive one of her poodles, you also receive her knowledge, support, and her friendship. She has even shed a few tears with me over a loss of a puppy.

She has the highest standards, I would never question her integrity, her honesty, values, both in a personal and professional setting. When I applied for my first poodle from her, she insisted I call some of her previous happy owners. They had nothing but the most highest regard for her, her ethics, dealings with them and all said they would have no qualms in buying another poodle from her.

It is without any reservations, that I would recommend Elizabeth in any business dealings. If one is fortunate enough to also develop a friendship with her, they will find a loyal, caring, ethical friend and business peer.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or concerns.

Sincerely,

Karen L. Ludwig, LPC, NCC, MAC
State of Oregon Licensed Professional Counselor
1655 S.W. Highland, #4
Redmond, Or. 97756

Adult cestodes in the intestines of of dogs and cats rarely cause serious disease, and clinical signs, if present, may depend on the degree of infection, age, condition, and breed host. Clinical signs vary from unthriftiness, malaise, irritability, capricious appetite, and shaggy coat to colic, mild diarreha, and rarely, emaciation and seizures. Diagnosis is based on findg proglottids or eggs in the feces.

Cestodes, of dogs and cats may be of public health importance.

Commonly, the disease is transmitted by the flea. The dog must bite or swallow the flea which harbors the immature tapeworms in its intestine. Fleas acquire the parasite by eating tapeworm eggs.

As the proud owner of two poodles purchased from Mrs. Elizabeth M. Davis of Bakersfield, CA, I am writing to voice my strong disagreement with allegations made by Stephen Halas concerning the business tactics and quality of puppies raised by Gorgeous Poodles.

Our first poodle, an apricot/red toy poodle was purchased from Mrs. Davis of Gorgeous Poodles in December 2000 when he was 3 months old. His initial visit to our veterinarian was within the first 5 days after receiving him, and the Vet declared him to be one of the healthiest animals they had ever seen. The vet commented that the puppy's health reflected the excellent care and careful breeding of a well-qualified breeder. He is now six years old, and has enjoyed good health since that time. He is well-behaved and socialized, for which I also thank Mrs. Elizabeth Davis. Receiving this poodle puppy into our home as a pet family member was an easy transition for us because he was socialized when we received him and he was already house-broken.

Our second poodle from Mrs. Elizabeth Davis was purchased on July 27, 2004 at age seven-months. He is a beautiful mahogany-red miniature poodle. On July 28, 2004, (the next day) we took the puppy to the veterinarian clinic for his initial check-up and get-acquainted visit. He passed with flying colors, and like our first poodle from Mrs. Davis, was proclaimed to be an extremely healthy and well-behaved puppy. He is gentle and loving and well-adjusted. His exuberant energy is reflected in his playfulness, and he is a constant source of entertainment for us.

Both of our poodles from Mrs. Davis have added a dimension to our family life that is unequalled. We have had many compliments on their beauty, intelligence and good temperaments.

Regarding the complaint from the --- family and the ensuing emails between them and Mrs. Davis, I can only surmise the Halas family SHOULD NOT be allowed to own any kind of pet. They obviously are not equipped with the time, knowledge and love required to care for an animal. It is a tragedy this poor little poodle puppy had to suffer abuse, lack of attention and care while in the ---' possession.

Ruth W.
Tucson, AZ
U.S.A.

Our family is extremely happy and satisfied with the puppy we received from Elizabeth Davis!! We got our Apricot poodle, Cheyenne, a little over a year ago and couldn't be happier!

We followed all the instructions on our contract and took Cheyenne to our vet within the time frame that we needed to and our vet said that she was one of the healthest dogs he's seen come from a breeder in awhile. He told us that we were lucky to find Elizabeth and we agree!

We have a very active and busy household. We have two boys ages 10 and 2 along with two cats ages 12 and 6 and Cheyenne gets along with everyone! She plays well with the kids and our parents live with us too and they are in their 70's and she is so good with my mom and dad. We all love her and wouldn't know what to do without her in our lives.

If we ever decide to get another dog we will DEFINITELY use Elizabeth! Cheyenne is easy to train --- she was a star in her obedience class and we only have to spend about 5 minutes teaching her a new trick and then she's got it down pat! She's 5 pounds of fun and love for all of us!

She was easily potty-trained and she's a very important member of our family! Obviously the family that had issues with Elizabeth has some other issues with their lives and maybe getting a puppy was a little too much work for them to handle. It's an investment to get a pet --- not just financially, but also with your time and if you do not have the ability to commit than you shouldn't go ahead with getting one.

A Happy and Satisfied Poodle Owner from Elizabeth Davis at Gorgeous Poodles

Katrynke
Buena Park, CA

I'm writing this letter to dispute the Stephen Hala family's allegations regarding Elizabeth Davis owner of Gorgeous Poodles in Bakersfield, CA. In December I purchased a beautiful Apricot Toy Poodle from Gorgeous Poodles & she is by far the sweetest most loveable puppy I have ever owned.

I have owned four poodles over the years. Tiffany Ann is now 5 months old & the picture of health. Gorgeous Poodles breeds only beautiful, healthy poodles. Tiffany is very social, she does not bark and has quickly adapted to traveling and greets all my guests that stop by. I also own a two old Seal Point Rag Doll cat & she & Tiffany are the best of friends and play together all day long. Tiffany was completely house broken within two weeks of bring her to her new home. She is scheduled for her first trsining classes on April 1st & I have all the faith in the world with her personality & disposition she will be an "A" student. Tifany will be a special needs dog for me as I have a health problem.

I truly believe that the Hala family should not have purchased a poodle puppy from any breeder & would have encountered these problems they had regardless of where they purchased their poodle puppy. Poodles require a lot of attention & a loving home environment. They are very much into their owners.

It sounds like the Hala's life was to busy to bring a baby poodle into your busy life style of four adults. It also sounds like the poor puppy was abused from the e mails that were published. I would suggest that in the future you work with your local veterinary clinic & be honest & upfront with them before purchasing any type of puppy & follow their advice & counsel. When you adopt puppies, kittens etc. you really take on a commitment.

Judy A.
Happy Owner of Tiffany Ann
Gorgeous Poodles Baby from Elizabeth Davis

Dear Sirs

I would like to know WHY you have decided to delete the last name Halas from my rebuttal , while at the same time you have printed my full name Elizabeth Davis numerous times in the original complaint from Mr. Halas.

You decided to only use Mrs. without her last name. I sincerly belive that if Mr. Halas had the LIBERTY to USE MY NAME Elizabeth Davis INDISCRIMINATELY in his complaint I should be allowed to use the name Halas exactly the way it was in my rebuttal letter.

I would very much appreciate it, if you would include the last name Halas with each first name and with Mrs. the way it was when i sent it to you .

I feel that would be AMERICAN JUSTICE.What is allowed for Mr. Halas should also be allowed for myself.

If Mr. Halas asked you to keep his last name anonymous, then You should have used Elizabeth in conjunction with Gorgeous Poodles , keeping my last name Davis anonymous as you did Mr. Halas's last name

Dear Sirs

I would like to know WHY you have decided to delete the last name Halas from my rebuttal , while at the same time you have printed my full name Elizabeth Davis numerous times in the original complaint from Mr. Halas.

You decided to only use Mrs. without her last name. I sincerly belive that if Mr. Halas had the LIBERTY to USE MY NAME Elizabeth Davis INDISCRIMINATELY in his complaint I should be allowed to use the name Halas exactly the way it was in my rebuttal letter.

I would very much appreciate it, if you would include the last name Halas with each first name and with Mrs. the way it was when i sent it to you .

I feel that would be AMERICAN JUSTICE.What is allowed for Mr. Halas should also be allowed for myself.

If Mr. Halas asked you to keep his last name anonymous, then You should have used Elizabeth in conjunction with Gorgeous Poodles , keeping my last name Davis anonymous as you did Mr. Halas's last name

Dear Sirs

I would like to know WHY you have decided to delete the last name Halas from my rebuttal , while at the same time you have printed my full name Elizabeth Davis numerous times in the original complaint from Mr. Halas.

You decided to only use Mrs. without her last name. I sincerly belive that if Mr. Halas had the LIBERTY to USE MY NAME Elizabeth Davis INDISCRIMINATELY in his complaint I should be allowed to use the name Halas exactly the way it was in my rebuttal letter.

I would very much appreciate it, if you would include the last name Halas with each first name and with Mrs. the way it was when i sent it to you .

I feel that would be AMERICAN JUSTICE.What is allowed for Mr. Halas should also be allowed for myself.

If Mr. Halas asked you to keep his last name anonymous, then You should have used Elizabeth in conjunction with Gorgeous Poodles , keeping my last name Davis anonymous as you did Mr. Halas's last name

Dear Sirs

I would like to know WHY you have decided to delete the last name Halas from my rebuttal , while at the same time you have printed my full name Elizabeth Davis numerous times in the original complaint from Mr. Halas.

You decided to only use Mrs. without her last name. I sincerly belive that if Mr. Halas had the LIBERTY to USE MY NAME Elizabeth Davis INDISCRIMINATELY in his complaint I should be allowed to use the name Halas exactly the way it was in my rebuttal letter.

I would very much appreciate it, if you would include the last name Halas with each first name and with Mrs. the way it was when i sent it to you .

I feel that would be AMERICAN JUSTICE.What is allowed for Mr. Halas should also be allowed for myself.

If Mr. Halas asked you to keep his last name anonymous, then You should have used Elizabeth in conjunction with Gorgeous Poodles , keeping my last name Davis anonymous as you did Mr. Halas's last name

January 29, 2007

Regarding the report from Stephen and Roger residing in Canoga Park, CA 91303

June 27, 2006, Mr. Stephen and his Family of four adults came to my home and purchased a 10 wk. old red female poodle puppy from us.

On August 30, 2006 at 7:37 AM, Mr. S. e-mailed us, and I quote the entire email content:

"We purchased a poodle puppy from you about 2 months ago. We have tried everything in our power to make her happy, but she refuses to warm up to us in any way. It may be that she is TOO HIGH STRUNG or TOO SHY TO ADJUST to a BUSY HOUSEHOLD with four ACTIVE ADULTS and OTHER DISTRACTIONS, or DOES NOT LIKE ANY OF US. For some strange reason she would rather be left alone and/or ignored by all of us. I discussed the situation with you 10 days ago, and you said you would buy her back. I believe it would be in the best interest of the puppy to return her to you in hopes you can find her more suitable home, probably with just a single adult companion. She is beautiful, but it not good for her to be so unhappy all the time.
Sincerely
Steve

It took a long time for the poor puppy to get back to us. Finally, on December 6, 2006 with the help of the Bakersfield Better Business Bureau we were able to get the poor little very sick puppy back. During the return transaction that took place at the Bakersfield BBB, the --- were so obnoxious that at one point Mrs. --- was told by the lady from the BBB who was overseeing the return of the poodle puppy that if she will not stop yelling and name calling the Police will have to come. Mrs. --- was asked to leave the offices of the Better Business Bureau.

Our Vet told us that the puppy had 6 to 8 weeks maximum before she would have died from starvation. She was skin and bones with a skeleton in a shape of letter "U. She had diarrhea for so long that her entire rectum area was an open sore. Now that the puppy is back in a loving home where she is nurtured back to health, she is eating a lot of very good food, taking vitamins and minerals. She has gained a lot of weight. In addition, is finally getting her fur coat back, which she lost because of poor nutrition. She was almost hairless when she came back to us. The photos that were taken the next day after she was returned serve as a remainder how much more careful we all, as people who sell puppies, have to be with screening potential customers, as to make sure that the little beings will end up in the right homes.

Going back t o Mr. Steven e-mail, we all can see that his family was not the right one for this puppy. After almost 20 yrs. of raising poodle's this is the first time we have encountered any problem. The slander, defamation of character is a terrible thing to experience but NOTHING compares with the HORROR our poor puppy went through. Her appearance on the evening of her return from the Halas's to us said it all.

If any one has any questions regarding this matter, please contact us.

Elizabeth Davis

Gorgeouspoodles.com