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Complaint Review: Gryphon Investment Group

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  • Submitted: Sat, January 21, 2012
  • Updated: Tue, September 04, 2012

  • Reported By: Tanya — Tampa Florida United States of America
Gryphon Investment Group
1288 haglar way Chula Vista, California United States of America

Gryphon Investment Group Carl Saunders 100 AMEX CARD and TRADELINES Program are SCAMS!!!! CARL SUANDERS TAKES YOUR MONEY AND DON'T DELIVER!!!! Chula Vista, California

*Consumer Comment: I'd hoped to warn people...

*General Comment: He Is At It Again.

*Consumer Comment: CARL SAUDERS IS A SCAMMER!

*Consumer Comment: Seriously

*Consumer Comment: Gryphon Investment Group -Amex Card Scam

*Consumer Comment: My husband and i just got our amex credit cards in the mail today tonya if that is your name and i think its not.

*Author of original report: GABRIEL GOMEZ Is CARL SAUNDERS

*Consumer Comment: Wow Puto!! First Your Name Tonya Now Steve What A Pucking Joke

*Consumer Comment: Yeah Gabriel, you seem REAL credible.

*Consumer Comment: Wow Stupid Is As Stupid Does Right Fake Poster

*Consumer Comment: Wow Stupid Is As Stupid Does Right Fake Poster

*Consumer Comment: Hey Mr Idiot.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You Are A Lier Stupid!!!

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We NEVER received any 100K Amex Cards from the guy. And myself and other clients have been waiting since October for the Amex Card. And he also claims to having tradelines to add to your credit file. My tradelines have NOT posted. There was always an excuse for him pushing it back another two weeks. That went on for 3 months. And NOTHING EVER showed on the credit report!  DO NOT Believe anything this guy tells you! And Yes the testimonial are FAKE Too! All of the rebuttals that you see on this rip off report, comes from Carl Saunders. He makes it seem like different people have been satisfied clients. THINK ABOUT IT! Why would a (satisfied)client go through a very extensive and lengthy testimonial? Because these are all aliases made up by Carl Saunders! BEWARE OF THIS GUY CARL SAUNDERS!! He is very creative when it comes to SCAMMING you of your money!    

You Have been WARNED!

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 01/21/2012 03:45 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Gryphon-Investment-Group/Chula-Vista-California-91913/Gryphon-Investment-Group-Carl-Saunders-100-AMEX-CARD-and-TRADELINES-Program-are-SCAMS-826377. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

I'd hoped to warn people...

AUTHOR: Don''tGetScammedToo - (United States of America)

To everyone who has been scammed by Carl Saunders, I'm so sorry. I lost around $3,000 to this con man. Here's my report: http://www.ripoffreport.com/financial-services/gryphon-investment-g/gryphon-investment-group-gryph-18522.htm. Call Allena (((phone number redacted))). If you've lost over $400 to a scammer in the last two years, it's a federal crime. She helps people recover money. (Btw, I'm not gaining any profit by giving this info.) Carl Saunders has run this con for a long enough time to have accumulated tens of thousands of dollars. Hopefully as people make efforts to recover their money, that will change.

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#2 General Comment

He Is At It Again.

AUTHOR: I am not the one - (United States of America)

As of 5/17/2012, Carl Saunders has serveral ads posted on craigslist... Don't fall for this scam!
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#3 Consumer Comment

CARL SAUDERS IS A SCAMMER!

AUTHOR: shana - (United States of America)

I PAID HIM MONEY IN 2009 FOR THE AMEX CARD. HE STALLED ME FOR OVER 8 MONTHS WITH HIS LIES AND I NEVER GOT THE CARD. FINALLY HIS "SO CALLED" GIRLFRIEND TOLD ME THAT HE WAS IN JAIL.

THIS GUY USES DIFFERENT NAMES AND DIFFERENT EMAIL ADDRESSES TO TELL PEOPLE THAT HE HAS GOT PEOPLE AMEX CARD BUT THERE IS NO ONE HE GOT THE CARD. HE IS A TOTAL FAKE. I WIRED MONEY IN HIS ACCOUNT AND OF COURSE LOST MY MONEY. I HAD FILD IT WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERALS OFFICE HERE AND ALSO A POLICE REPORT ON THE ACCOUNT I HAD SENT THE MONEY BUT YOU KNOW....HE HIDES AND THEN COMES OUT AGAIN

I HOPE HE TRULY GOES TO JAIL ONE OF THESE DAYS.........

PEOPLE DON'T BELEIVE HIM-HE HAS NO CLIENTS THAT HE HAS GOT CARDS-ITS ALL HIM-HE IS A THEIF, A LIAR AND A SCAMMER!!!!!!!
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#4 Consumer Comment

Seriously

AUTHOR: Diogenes - (USA)

Indeed, no FBI agent could possibly write such a grammatically poor statement.  Nor would he overstate the matter as was the case here.  Nice try, you fraud, whomever you are. 

It is a certainty that the author of this report is a fraud, and has been writing all of the "sterling" rubuttals himself.  They are just too stupidly ridiculous to be otherwise.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Gryphon Investment Group -Amex Card Scam

AUTHOR: Dino - (U.S.A.)


I have been scammed by Carlton Saunders. All of these rebutalls are all written by him.  He and is boss, Greg Julliay have not provided me with nothing but excuses and B.S.  I believe they are the same person, but my point being is that they are scamming people and trying to hide with all of these lies and fake rebuttalls. I have asked Carlton many times to provide me with the Amex card or proof that they exist. I also requested to Greg the name and telephone number of his so-called multi-billion dollar company. No response.

I also requested Carlton to provide me with the contact information of F.B.I agent, Jason Capono, who on another blog, wrote a note that the F.B.I. is not looking for Carlton Saunders, and supported him 100%:

Capono F.B.I Agent on 11/22/2011, 11:43 pm, in reply to "Carlton Saunders CPN Phone # 619-851-8484 F.B.I Is looking for Carlton Saunders Fake CPN Service "98.176.175.49


My name is jason capono and i am an fbi agent.This is all slander and defamation of mr saunders.He has not scammed anyone by any means.I have had bad credit for as long as i can remember and mr saunders,knowing that im a cop helped me out.Every one whom i contacted would not help me because im considered the [enemy]Mr saunders was told prior to doing business that i was an agent and he still got me a great cpn number with tradelines.He is an awesome dude and again NOT WANTED by the F.B.I.All of this is made up to have people not want to do business with mr saunders.He took a gamble with an agent and he won me over.I will look for the idiots that has posted these lies and arrest any one associated with this person.This is blatant Harrassment and will not be tolorated.Again Mr Saunders is not wanted by us.

Well, now that I cannot find Mr. Saunders, maybe Agent Capono could, that is, if he really exists!  I have never experienced a scammer like Carlton. Most of them, just disappear. He keeps trying to tell people he is the real deal. What a joke! I hope we can find Agent Capono or else someone is going to face criminal charges of impersonating a federal agent.
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#6 Consumer Comment

My husband and i just got our amex credit cards in the mail today tonya if that is your name and i think its not.

AUTHOR: My husband and i got two amex today - (United States of America)

Hola rip-off report readers.Just to clarify these outrages lies that this fake person who is a man and will do anything to discredit my saunders name and reputation for his own material gain.He is the only man who claims that he did business with mr saunders{where is the proof} it is so easy to create lies and have people who read these reports to believe them.Im a hispanic woman with two kids and had i believed what fake people post,my husband and i will not have our own amex credit cards provided by mr saunders.This man has to hide behind a fake name and make lie's.We can provide our proof to any one that ask us and we will continue to do business with mr saunders for years to come.So tanya or man/woman who wants to be gay step up.Your a phony.The proof is in the results not just talk.Gracias 
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#7 Author of original report

GABRIEL GOMEZ Is CARL SAUNDERS

AUTHOR: Tanya - (United States of America)

IT IS REALLY AMAZING TO ME THAT YOU GABRIEL GOMEZ IS WRITING THESE REBUTTALS TO DEFEND CARL SAUNDERS(GRYPHON INVESTMENTS) WITH SUCH EXPLICIT LANGUAGE. WHY ISN'T CARL SAUNDERS DEFENDING HIMSELF ON THIS REPORT? WHY ARE YOU(GABRIEL GOMEZ) SAYING SUCH CURSE WORDS JUST TO VOUCH THAT YOU RECEIVED TRADELINES AND 8 AMEX CARDS FOR YOUR CLIENTS? I'LL TELL YOU AND ANYONE THAT IS READS THIS RIP OFF REPORT WHY..... BECAUSE CARL SAUNDERS IS THE ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WRITING THESE REBUTTALS AS GABRIEL GOMEZ... AND CARL SAUNDERS YOU ARE A BIG RIPP OFF KING!!!

A WORD OF ADVICE TO ANYONE THAT READS THIS.... ASK CARL SAUNDERS TO SHOW YOU PROOF OF ANYONE RECEIVING THE AMEX CARD OR ANY TRADELINES THAT HE HAS POSTED... AND I BET YOU THAT HE WILL NOT HAVE ANY PROOF TO SHOW!

THIS GUY IS A BIG SCAMM!!
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#8 Consumer Comment

Wow Puto!! First Your Name Tonya Now Steve What A Pucking Joke

AUTHOR: Gabriel Gomez #1 Forex Trading Brok - (United States of America)

Are you kidding me puto? your neighborehood the ghetto streets of wherever lol get a life puto.Im hispanic and maybe my english is not that good but i know a scam poster when i see it puto.You are a joke your lies are jokes and you hide behind e mails that you make up stupid. what a low life
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#9 Consumer Comment

Yeah Gabriel, you seem REAL credible.

AUTHOR: Steve - (USA)

Hmmm... besides the fact that you are barely literate, your posts are filled with personal insults (including racism). I wouldn't want you living in my neighborhood, let alone to do business with you. Perhaps you should look into getting your GED? I'm having a hard time believing that you are a Forex trader. Heck, I wonder if you have a job at all!  

The fact that my taxes support your kind is depressing. 
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#10 Consumer Comment

Wow Stupid Is As Stupid Does Right Fake Poster

AUTHOR: Gabriel Gomez #1 Forex Trading Brok - (United States of America)

Excuse me idiot who wrote these lies,guess what? 4 primary tradelines posted to my credit report and my fico score is now at 842.Its funny how you claim that carl cant provide amex credit cards and tradeline idiot but i beg to differ stupid.God is an awesome god and he will pass down his wrath upon whoremongers and people who like to spread lies and false deception.What do you get off by making up these stories does that do it for you puto.We will continue to do a lot of business with carl stupid unlike yourself whom never did any business with him .Get a life.If he scameed us you better believe we would not waste our time and energy on posting things,we would get our money back stupid.
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#11 Consumer Comment

Wow Stupid Is As Stupid Does Right Fake Poster

AUTHOR: Gabriel Gomez #1 Forex Trading Brok - (United States of America)

Excuse me idiot who wrote these lies,guess what? 4 primary tradelines posted to my credit report and my fico score is now at 842.Its funny how you claim that carl cant provide amex credit cards and tradeline idiot but i beg to differ stupid.God is an awesome god and he will pass down his wrath upon whoremongers and people who like to spread lies and false deception.What do you get off by making up these stories does that do it for you puto.We will continue to do a lot of business with carl stupid unlike yourself whom never did any business with him .Get a life.If he scameed us you better believe we would not waste our time and energy on posting things,we would get our money back stupid.
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#12 Consumer Comment

Hey Mr Idiot.

AUTHOR: Gabriel Gomez #1 Forex Trading Brok - (United States of America)

Guess Who? Its your friendly forex broker yet again to report how much of a lie you are.Two more of my high end clients got their amex credit cards yesterday idiot.Just thought i would tell you that idiot.The truth is in the end results idiot and i dont lie like you with your deceptive reports,and furthermore idiot as you know GET A FKING LIFE and stop you malicious attacks on carl idiot.You have to be african-american idiot.You are not white nor hispanic.We have proof of all of our amex credit cards and can provide that to anyone to show that you are a fking lie idiot.You are a puto.
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#13 REBUTTAL Owner of company

You Are A Lier Stupid!!!

AUTHOR: Gabriel Gomez #1 Forex Trading Brok - (United States of America)

 Its funny how another fake post looks like this one,now your name is tanya in tampa florida.What a fking joke buddy. I know for a actual fact that carl@ gryphon investment group performs stupid ass.Myself and 8 clients has recieved 8 amex credit cards stupid ass and real tradelines that was verified and posted to all of our credit reports stupid ass. He knows who you are and your posting lies to discredit him and his company stupid ass.He is not but a phone call away stupid ass.Get a fking life and dont try and ruin it for everybody else that needs help stupid ass.GET A LIFE!!!!
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