- Report: #71649
Complaint Review: Gwinnett Place Ford
| Gwinnett Place Ford 3230 Satellite BLVD
Duluth, Georgia U.S.A. |
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Gwinnett Place Ford - Mark Christian supervisor - Mike Coruch manager ripoff, not admittimg that their service tech. are unknowledgeable, unable to complete a brake job on their own vehicles and instead of admitting fault Duluth Georgia
*Consumer Comment: Over torqueing wheels does does not cause warped rotors
*Consumer Suggestion: keep building rockets and let real con tractors fix vehicles
*Consumer Comment: Frank, you just shot yourself in the foot ..The shop has complete responsibility
*Consumer Comment: to Nate, angers me is when owners/drivers refuse to accept any responsibility
*Consumer Comment: Show us just one example
*Consumer Suggestion: read your "ASE" books
*Consumer Comment: FYI, I do not work at a dealer because of people like Mark
*Consumer Suggestion: Gwinnet Place Ford
*Consumer Suggestion: Gwinnet Place Ford
*Consumer Suggestion: You are either the worst mechanic in history or a complete liar.
*UPDATE Employee: She had gone to Sears and had the tires replaced since her last visit to our dealership.
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I instructed the advisor to do their inspection and to tell me something I already knew and to do whatever is needed, brakes, rotors, callipers whatever. He informed me that I needed front and rear and that they would machine the rotors. He informed that it would cost a little over $400.00 for pads and machined rotors only.
I allowed them to proceed with the front only at this time my vehicle had 78,836 mi. I went back to Ford on 04/17/03 and completed the rear job at this time I had 80,322 mi all together I paid $409.00. After my front brake job when I proceeded to stop I would get an vibration, I figured it was because I needed to complete the rear not so it continued even after the rear job.
Therefore I brought it to Ford's attention explaining to them the vibration as well excessive brake dust on the front wheels. They explained to me that the dust was because of doing over 50% of braking on the front, and they did not notice any vibration.
After going through the run-around with Ford for months I had to replace all 4 tires. I call my service advisor and got an tire quote, but I decided to take my business to sears due to the previous experinces at ford.
Two days before I went to sears I dropped my vehicle back at ford for another brake inspection because I felt their was still a problem,again I was told everything was in good shape and that they did a road test. I got the tire job completed at sears went right back to ford a two days later being that it was the weekend; they asked why I did not purchase my tires from them told the I received a better deal somewere else never mentioning were. This time after the inspection I was told that they found my wheels overtorqued causing my rotors to be out of round.
Now I have a serious problem with that, because my vehicle was having these problems from the first time they worked on it, they just would not acknowledge it. I went straight back to sears and their techs showed me exactly what was going on, and how ford had been lying about everything being fine. I had less then 20% of pad after being informed two days prior that I had more then 50%.
Ford will not take the responabilty for lying to me , everytime I brought my vehicle back to have them reinspect, retest it they told my nothing was wrong, they would have contiued to say that if I did not let someone else work on my vehicle. A tire mount and balance does not cause your rotors to go bad, but over machining, turning them will. Know I have to replace brakes and rotors and I haven't driven 9,000 mi go figure.
Out of all the over charging that goes on at Ford in the service dept. alone how hard would it have been to admit your worng. If you can't trust the dealer/maker of your vehicle who can you trust, an reliable source like sears.
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Dorothy
duluth, Georgia
U.S.A.
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Search Tips#1 Consumer Comment
Over torqueing wheels does does not cause warped rotors
AUTHOR: Rob - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 29, 2004
#2 Consumer Suggestion
keep building rockets and let real con tractors fix vehicles
AUTHOR: Frank - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 06, 2004
I don't know what department of NASA you work for but sart at the begining.Brakes were fixed,no problem was noticed.10,000 miles later,right after Sears put tires on,problem started. Now reach into your vast depth of knowledge of rocket science and think real hard.........what place caused the problem?
#3 Consumer Comment
Frank, you just shot yourself in the foot ..The shop has complete responsibility
AUTHOR: Nate - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 06, 2004
If it had caused the warping, why did the problem not occur until she had put 10,000 miles on the brakes? It didn't!
The owner states that her brakes were pulsating from the beginning- before she ever went to Sears.
When the dealer found out that she went to Sears for the tires instead of them, they then have a scapegoat.
You must work for this dealership because your logic is just as erroneous as theirs is.
The shop has complete responsibility because they were informed of the problem from the beginning and they chose to ignore it.
By the way, simply putting quotation marks around a word doesn't make it an official title. Who is the author of the "Tire Guide"?
#4 Consumer Comment
to Nate, angers me is when owners/drivers refuse to accept any responsibility
AUTHOR: Frank - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 02, 2004
Look in any "Tire Guide" book and in the very begining you'll see instructions on "wheel torque".
The Tire Guide is the basic of all tire knowledge.Don't get me wrong.I'm not saying the warped rotors in question were warped by Sears. What I'm saying is;over torqueing wheels "can" cause rotors to warp.I do agree that heat is the major cause.
The thing that angers me is when owners/drivers refuse to accept any responsibility for their own actions.10,000 miles after a brake job is done,how much liability should the repair shop have when a vehicle starts to pulsate upon braking? I mean really,"10,000 MILES".
That's almost half way around the Earth.How may hard presses do you think the driver made to that cute little pedal to the left of the gas pedal?Back to what I said before.How much liability should the repair shop/s have at this point?
#5 Consumer Comment
Show us just one example
AUTHOR: Nate - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 01, 2004
I challenge you to produce a single example in any respected automotive manual that specifically states your assertion. You say that 'any' repair manual states that over-torqueing lugnuts causes brake rotors to warp. Now let's see the proof. We are not talking about over-torqueing in general. Only lugnuts or lugbolts. If you cannot provide it, we will see if you are 'man' enough to admit it.
#6 Consumer Suggestion
read your "ASE" books
AUTHOR: Frank - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 29, 2004
#7 Consumer Comment
FYI, I do not work at a dealer because of people like Mark
AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 28, 2004
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I am an independent con tractor, and I do not work at a dealer because of people like Mark, not telling customers the truth and making himself and others at their place of employment look like fools. All dealerships,lube joints etc. have one or two [techs] like Mark hired off the street to work for next to nothing. You get paid for what you know! How much money do make Mark? I just get tired of people getting screwed by these so called [mechanics] and then not knowing who or what to trust.
#8 Consumer Suggestion
Gwinnet Place Ford
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 21, 2003
#9 Consumer Suggestion
Gwinnet Place Ford
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 21, 2003
#10 Consumer Suggestion
You are either the worst mechanic in history or a complete liar.
AUTHOR: Nate - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 09, 2003
I have been an ASE certified mechanic for almost ten years. I have much experience in brake system repair as well as tire, wheel, suspension, and alignment issues.
There is NO correlation between overtightening lugnuts and warped rotors. Brake rotors are warped by excessive heat that can be attributed to low brake pads, excessive braking (or brakes binding), and age. The lugbolts would break completely off before they would alter the shape of any part associated with the brakes.
You are either the worst mechanic in history or a complete liar. You are the reason dealership service centers have a bad reputation.
If I were you I would consider a career more suitable to your skills (fast food for example).
The dealer should have replaced your rotors when you brought it back. A road test would have shown that they were warped.
#11 UPDATE Employee
She had gone to Sears and had the tires replaced since her last visit to our dealership.
AUTHOR: Mark - Parts & Service Director - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 24, 2003

