• Report: #874844

Complaint Review: Harmons Bulldogs

  • Submitted: Fri, April 27, 2012
  • Updated: Wed, May 30, 2012

  • Reported By: Seaecho — Phelan California United States of America
Harmons Bulldogs
Internet United States of America

Harmons Bulldogs Bulldogs of Harmon Hollow Don't buy from this Backyard breeder Internet, Internet

*Author of original report: Red Flags

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Final Response

*Author of original report: Proud to be a backyard breeder!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Harmons bulldogs

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My husband and I bought an American Bulldog puppy from this backyard breeder early in 2011. I foolishly went with a backyard breeder even though I know better because I fell in love with a picture of one of her pups.  I asked Laura Harmon if her pups were vaccinated and she assured me they were.  She arranged ground shipping. Just days before the pup was to leave TN on his trip all the way to Calif., by van, she mentioned the pup had only been given one vaccination, and that was at 6 weeks of age.

Having been a vet tech for 12 years before I retired, I knew the pup needed a series of vaccines, given at approximately 8 weeks and every 2-3 weeks until around 16 weeks of age, and that the immunity of his one and only vaccine had worn off.  She promised to vaccinate him before he left on his journey in two days.

When we received the pup the van was stuffed full of many other dogs, but all looked well, besides a driver telling me one of the dogs had had explosive diarrhea on the trip out.  That caught my attention.  Sure enough, only 4 days later, our pup became ill.  Perfect timeline for Parvo.  He had traveled with other dogs that the owners had not even had to show proof of vaccination for!  This was just outrageous to me. The breeder told me this after we'd already received the pup.  I was appalled. 

He had vomiting and diarrhea, listlessness and refusal to eat--all signs of Parvo.  We took him to the vet that very same day, and the diagnosis was confirmed.   The puppy almost died twice in the next 10 days.  There was a lot of heartache for us, to say the least, as we had already become hopelessly attached to him.   We could not afford it, but felt we owed it to the pup to try to save him.  When he finally recovered, our total vet bill came to nearly $3,000.

I informed the Laura that the pup was hospitalized, and that the second vaccine had not had time to work (takes 10 days to 2 weeks for immunity to develop).  Had she vaccinated him on the PROPER schedule, which is every 2-3 weeks, he would have had immunity.  She ended up, after much pleading with her for at least a week, giving us back the purchase price of the pup, but refused to give us a single penny to go toward the vet bill.  Nothing I could do, as I would never have sent a sick pup back to TN in the shape he was in.  He would not have survived the trip.

Laura said I should have let her have the dog examined by her vet.  How could I do that, when she's 2,000+ miles away?  Send the pup on a road trip that far when it is deathly ill?  This shows what a lack of common sense she has.

And if this is not bad enough, at 8 months of age the puppy suddenly started to attack our other dogs.  These attacks were completely unprovoked.  If a dog just walked by him, he would lunge at them, latch on, and not let go.  He would shake them like a terrier does a rat.  It was vicious, and we could not get him to let go, no matter what we did.  He seemed intent on killing the other dog. I've also been an obedience instructor in the past, and I've never seen anything like this.  The behavior was also completely unpredictible, even after we neutered him just weeks after the first attack.  At times he would be fine, only to attack again at any time, with absolutely no warning.

The day he lunged at, and bit me, (and drew blood) for admonishing him for going after another dog, I realized there was a serious problem.  A trip to the vet revealed a normal exam and bloodwork.  The vet told me she felt strongly that it was probably a genetic trait in the bloodlines.  In other words, it could have been in the gene pool of the dogs Laura Harmon is using for breeding.

Discipline did no good at all, in fact it escalated his aggressiveness.  The last time he attacked, we had to literally choke him until he nearly passed out to make him let go. He was very unstable and you never knew when he might attack.  I emailed the breeder, was very polite, and told her what was going on.  I told her we were not able to control him when he attacked, and that the vet had told us she was very afraid for our safety.

The breeder sent back a very cold email saying that her dogs do not have bad temperaments.  I asked her if she would take the dog back if we split shipping charges with her.  She would not even consider it.  This is a breeder (back yard breeder) who claims she loves her "babies" to death and would do anything for them.  Yet when our dog needed help the most, she was completely uncaring and uncompassionate.

In my opinion she does not stand behind her dogs.  She refuses to even consider the fact that this trait could be running in her dogs' bloodlines.  I feel that if a person takes on the responsibility to breed dogs, they should be willing to take back any dog that has any physical or psychological defect that could be due to faulty breeding.  She says none of of her adults or their puppies have had any problems, but my pup was from her first litter, and is only 17 months old.  Its early in the game.  All the other pups she's sold are much younger, so this problem cannot be ruled out for any of her subsequent pups in the future, and pups she is selling right now.

These kinds of things sometimes do not show up until a dog is sexually mature. Laura seems to have no knowledge or education about how important bloodlines are.  You don't just put two dogs together because they are the same breed and just hope to get quality.

I want to warn people out there who are considering buying an American Bulldog to stay away from this kennel.  They are not reputable. I suspect she's still only giving her pups one vaccination, and she uses a "herbalist" to diagnose instead of taking her dogs to the vet.  She even told me that her herbalist, after hearing about my dog's aggression, recommended a certain herb to cure him!  He's not a vet, and even if he were, no vet would diagnose without seeing an animal.

Buy your American Bulldog from a REPUTABLE breeder, where the pup's well being always comes before making money.   She also claimed my dog would be over 100 lbs. (We wanted a very large one), and he's barely 79 lbs.  She deceived us in more than a few ways. 

David and Laura Harmon do not research their bloodlines for genetic defects and do not give their dogs the necessary vaccinations to keep them safe.  If I can save just one person from the heartache we've been through, then this report has been worth it.

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#1 Author of original report

Red Flags

AUTHOR: Seaecho - (United States of America)

The term "backyard breeder" has been around for a very long time, long before Google or the internet were even dreamed of.  Its not a "made up" term. Its a very well known term for people who get two dogs of the same breed, see dollar signs, and breed them, with the intention of making money, and not realizing you have to spend money for it to be in the best interest of your dogs.  This means they rarely get the female dog prenatal exams, or do testing for the devastating disorders I previously mentioned, of the dam (or, in this case, the sire too, who is just as important in passing on genes, good or bad)  No qualified professionals are called in for temperament testing.  All knowledgeable breeders of quality dogs are very familiar with the term backyard breeder, and have been for many, many decades. Its far from a flattering term.

Purebred or "100%, as she puts it" doesn't mean a thing. Unfortunately, millions of purebred, yes, purebred dogs are euthanized every week in this country.  This is partially because people don't castrate or spay their dogs, thus allowing them to reproduce over and over.  But even more important, it is also because of so many so called "breeders" breeding dogs that are purebred, but inferior, whether it be in quality, health or temperament.  And bad temperaments is the most common reason people give their pets up to humane societies. And this is precisely what happened to us.  We ended up with a dog who's sire and dam were tested for nothing, not even hip dysplasia (which by the way can show up at any age, but usually around or after the age of two, and Laura's dogs were not even old enough to have their hips certified when she bred them, a big no-no). 

Big red flags were flying everywhere, but I was a fool and didn't take heed.  Thought it would be fine, and that we'd get lucky and get a healthy pup with a solid disposition. I won't be posting anymore, as I can't even bear to think about it anymore, I'm so heartsick.
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AUTHOR: Harmon''s Bulldogs, Laura Harmon - (United States of America)

This will be my VERY LAST RESPONSE to this matter.

We are country folk who live simple. The wording backyard breeders ; to us means...people who breed their dogs in their back yard.  We don't care about Google people who believe everything they read or words people make up to suite what they want it to mean. 

Here is another email from this person who is going out of her way to cut up my dogs and my family.    On Feb 14, 2011, Randi Holbrook wrote:Yes, you'll get your website going, and build a name for ourself. I did research the pedigrees, and there are several greats a few generations back. I don't think anyone can sneeze at the bloodlines. And someone did comment that Hercules looks Johnson. Made me proud!

To comment on her idea of backyard breeders: we were very particular  about our breeding pairs.  We searched til we found the perfect pairs. As she stated January 21, 2012 The perfect dog! 

My husband has been around American Bulldogs for 20 years and knows what he is looking for.  Anyone who has actually met our kids (dogs) ALL want one of their babies (puppies).  Even people who were scared of big dogs.                 

And we ONLY breed 100%American Bulldogs

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Proud to be a backyard breeder!

AUTHOR: Seaecho - (United States of America)

This person is proud to be a backyard breeder.  Well, I guess this tells the whole story.  She's burned herself.  All you have to do is Google backyard breeder if you don't already know what it means.
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AUTHOR: Harmon''s Bulldogs, Laura Harmon - (United States of America)

I have just been informed about the complaint of me not taking proper care of my dogs which is not a true statement. I take very good care of my animals and keep the up to date on vaccines ....all the proper care is done to make sure my kids are healthy.

I was going to write stuff to backup myself and show the untrueness of this rip report, but decided to copy and paste and email received from: Randi Holbrook Jan 21, 2012

Our very large, 125 lb. female German Shepherd was 26" at the shoulder, so Kane is not only WIDE but very TALL too.  Wow. Yes, I saw the pics on Facebook. The one of you with him shows how much bigger his head is than yours! And Herc is looking more and more like his daddy. I see it a lot more now that Herc is older. Also, just lately Herc has gotten a lot wider. What a lot of muscle he's developing.  Its amazing how late these Am. Bulldogs mature! And what a sweetheart--he gives kisses and is always wagging his tail. He loves us to death, yet is not hyper at all. The perfect dog! 

I will try to get a couple of good pics of Herc next week. Its supposed to rain this weekend, and I'd like to get a body shot outside if at all possible.  Oh, do post your kitchen pics ! I'd love to see it, and get jealous, lol. If I forget, please remind me about the pics of Herc.

Randi

This sitituation with Randi Holbrook...First of all he was the ONLY puppy that had any of issues that she is now claiming he has.  It is NOT the bloodline of my dogs.  I emailed her the NKC paperwork so she could look into it herself prior to purchasing the puppy.  She even stated what great bloodlines they have.

I returned ALL her money... the price of the puppy and even shipping, which was not agreed upon. I told her there was only a one year HEALTH GUARANTEE, if anything happened I would refund the price of the puppy or a new puppy from next litter. I will NEVER take responsibility for what someone else did or did not do.  I do what I agree to. 

Yes, we are a backyard breeder and d**n proud of it.  WE ARE NOT A PUPPY MILL.  And don't over charge.
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